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Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
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ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
first for macs are better
>>53614088
First for you're a faggot.
Any recommended guide on how to fix loose hinges on my T420s?
>page 8
bump.
>>53615611
lewd
Was just given a Dell Inspiron N4110. sandy bridge i5, 6gb ram, needs a HDD.
Is it worth buying a cheap little SSD to stick in this thing? I already have a T420, not sure what I'd do with it, but having a backup couldn't hurt; alternatively I could sell it. Any idea what something like this is worth?
>lewdshit
>>53616055
Nice HD202.
Anyone has experience with eGPUs?
My T420 doesn't have Nvidia dGPU, only Intel. Is it still possible to do an eGPU setup with this?
>>53616703
I think it's still possible, you'll just have to plug a monitor into the graphics card, can't view the image on the laptop screen.
>>53617367
I guess it's not much of a downside. It's a little disappointing that I can't use the internal screen though.
Thanks.
no more spreadsheet crunching for you, T8.
no tears, only frags now
>>53617894
Those white Panasonics with the circle touchpad get my 2d dick hard
>>53617924
get one and stick your dick in the hand strap
Got a max specced T460s today. 9/10 machine, just waiting for linoz support now.
solid 60 FPS, full res, full details
the touchpad driver has an interesting "inertia" feature that allows you to flick the mouse across the screen. It's actually not bad to play shooters with at all, though I find it annoying to navigate Windows with.
>>53618045
>hand strap
Kek.
>>53618146
is there reason behind the madness that is the touchpad? Why round?
>>53618045
is that a 600 at the bottom?
I have an X131e running windows 7 and the battery is just about expired. Not sure if I should invest in a new battery and maybe some additional RAM or I should just save up for a new laptop. Video playback is kind of crappy, and I upgraded to windows 10 and it ran like molasses so I reinstalled windows 7.
>>53614277
>>53615939
DUDE
420
THAT'S THE WEED NUMBER
LMAO
>>53618162
i have to admit this is a very nice way to carry my Thinkpad X230 which I would miss if I got a replacement 6 cell.
I do need to get a replacement battery soon though, mine only has about 45% capacity left after 770 cycles. Does anyone know what's a reputable place to buy one? I know that the X220 Chinese batteries won't charge in it.
>>53618235
did you see if you're eligible for a FREE BATTERY?
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122
>>53618256
Yes and I'm definitely not. I don't know which manufacturers or lots they are recalling but my battery now has LG Chem cells and is not on the list.
>>53618235
>>53618279
genuinely if the listing has "genuine" and "new" in it you're safe. I have a 9 cell for my x220 and it's 72 cycles in and still lasts 7 hours if I push it.
This is what windows task manager says about the CPU and memory usage. The only active programs I have running right now are Deluge Firefox with Pandora open in a tab (and the music is choppy). What's the cheapest solution here? Should I see if there's a CPU upgrade for my X131e?
>>53618383
buy a real thinkpad.
>>53618432
Mom, he insulted my computer!
I needed something I could put in my backpack and travel with.
>>53618383
I'm pretty sure the CPU is soldered on the X131e.
You would benefit a lot from upgrading to an X220 compared to a $200 laptop like the HP Stream 11.
>>53618474
buy a x220 then.
>>53618474
Seems pretty heavy for that.
>>53618165
It lets you scroll pages by sliding your finger around the edge -- starting at the top or sides scrolls up and down and starting at the bottom scrolls left and right. Actually navigating with it is no different from a square touchpad, in fact if you start at the center, your finger is equidistant to the edge of the pad in all directions. I really haven't had an issue with it.
>>53618181
Yep. 600X with dat PIII-650 and 512 megs of RAM running Win98.
>>53618522
It's not the lightest but I wanted something that could take a beating. I used to work in Africa.
I guess I'll look at X220s.
>>53618383
Weird, I have the AMD APU version of this chinkpad and I never have this issue.
>>53618383
Check all your running processes, I'm betting on Windows Update. It's been doing it to me too. It never downloads or installs anything, just sits there and devours a whole CPU core and ~2GB of RAM whenever it damn well feels like it.
>>53618843
this, every time i have spurious high cpu load it's always Windows Update.
>>53618843
>>53618874
Switch to Linux to fix that problem
But really, disable all updates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7f-LnGnQWc
>>53619362
"This is the 520 Thinkpad instead of a 530, because it is before it went to shit"
That fucking voice is horrid!!
Guys someone said my x220 was an "old computer" I was really mad...
Fell for the Linux meme.
Tips ? I'm pretty raw and idk if I need something special here to use my t420 smooth as possible.
>>53619545
Linux Mint had some malware preinstalled
Make sure you aren't fucked with that
I fell for it a while ago and haven't desired to go back to Windows in a long long time.
I will go back for vidya when I build a good desktop
>>53619545
>not running manjaro
what.
>>53620216
>running manjaro
what.
Serious question guys, why do you recommend only Thinkpads up to the x20 models and not also x30s or x50s? Is it really only about the chiclet or?
[muffled リサフランク420]
>>53620778
The chiclet is prefrence, but the lack of dedicated volume buttons, and the island of pg down pg up delete buttong has been smushed into a row, and it feels like a consumer notebok with a thinkpad logo on it.
>>53620843
>buttong
buttons*
Which windows OS is best for a t400? Is there any way to get 7 to not run like dogshit?
>>53620843
Both of those functions can be easily compensated for with hotkeys in <insert your preferred OS> though. Why settle for the wonky x20 keyboard and lower specs just because of this non-issue?
>>53618162
This is how I carry my T430. Also, that guy is a pretty decent youtuber.
>>53620884
The thinkpad is a "No Compromise" notebook, you shouldn't have to compensate for shit that should be on the keyboard, and was on the keyboard, until it was removed.
>>53621149
>>53621149
>no compromise
>literally settles for a flexing keyboard and worse build quality because "muh layout"
I'm having an issue w/ my x220 running gentoo. The wifi will just randomly die and the only thing that fixes it is a reboot. It works most of the time but then it just fucks up randomly. Should i replace the wifi card? Is this a linux driver thing? Or should the stock wifi card work fine with gentoo?
>>53620216
>Manjaro
>Not Arch
Why?
I mean, at least use Antegros, which actually uses Arch repos.
>>53620881
Install Gentoo
Is there a think-pad that will let me watch my chinese cartoons at1080p Hi10p and has a small form factor?
I just want it as a travel alternative so I can read mango/watch anime/shitpost/program on the go.
Not really a thinkpad but my current project is almost done.
I spilled hot coffee on my x201, destroying the keyboard and damaging the panel.
As for the keyboard, I have no other choice but to buy a new one.
However, for the LCD panel, the area in contact with the spill has been "burnt", though the panel itself still works. I want to change it anyway, but I wonder if I can buy a panel from a x220 and enjoy a IPS screen instead.
welp time to buy actual JIS screwdrivers instead of this Harbor Freight crap. Probably gonna pick up the other two T8s today as well. This crack is in the metal portion of the lid, and It's triggering my autism.
Bluetooth range on this thing is insane, my Lifebook won't let me get more than 15 feet away, but the T8 gets a solid connection all over my apartment.
Battery life is also good. According to the BIOS stats, it's done around 470 cycles, but still holds a fine charge. The machine's been powered on for over 5000 hours, so it must've gotten a good workout.
>>53622645
isnt x201 16:10 whereas x220 16:9
>>53622692
Oh, yeah, I've rushed and mischecked. Thanks.
>tfw i peeled off the touchpad sticker and regret it.
i know that i can buy a replacement, but it will never be the same
>>53622326
What is that?
>>53620843
Wat? My T430 has dedicated volume keys.
>>53623115
Sorry, I was referencing the T440 series and onward, T430 is actually a sweet ass laptop if a chiclet keyboard turns you on.
>>53623127
Agree. Went from a T420 to a T430 and I'm happy. The keys on the top right though being placed in a row bothers me. It's not as easy to use and exactly what Louis Rossman said the problem was in his video.
Still, I don't mind getting used to it cause I got mine in mint condition with 1% wear on the battery.
>>53622858
I prefer it without
>>53623170
i think that it just feels really cheap and plasticy now.
>rotating store front captcha
>>53623205
Idk, the smooth feel is nice than the bumps. But I can see it being useful for "am I on it" in the middle of the night
>>53623015
a Samsung UMPC. Basically the thing before the tablet. Been having issues but it is a cool piece of tech.
Anyone using Windows 10 on X220, I'm bored of my Thinkpad being reliable and want to try MS latest offering. Are the lenovo drivers working on it, and is it true the battery life is better on it?
So i have an x220t with the i7 system board.
one of the USB ports has the connectors for usb 3.0. However, it's not blue and i have no idea how to get usb 3.0 drivers for it.
Is there a way to get the USB 3.0 to work? does it even need anything special or should i just trust that its faster?
i need fix the hinges on my old t400 and find a way to make the touchpad on my x220 useable
>>53623519
There are USB 3.0 drivers available on Intel's website. Check if you already have them installed in device manager.
>>53623556
alright, ill give them a try and report back
>>53614041
How do I find out what the unknown device is under the device manager?
>>53623703
right click device, properties, details tab, property: hardware ids, google the id
if it's acpi-something, then it's a chipset driver/intel amt thing
>>53623744
Well, its apparently the button for the WiFi used to enable/disable it. The driver isn't installed but it works fine. What do?
My OCD wants me to install the driver and have no unknown devices but the driver might also run in the background, taking up processing resources.
>>53621148
I think he has a drug problem. He can be quite irratic.
>>53623556
so it looks like while the tablet has a usb 3.0 connector, with the 5 extra pins and everything, it does jack shit and apparently doesn't register as a usb3 at all (i guess the usb3 chipset isnt actually present)
all drivers either fail to install or don't actually enable any usb3 functionality.
ah well, i don't really need it, but its pretty annoying.
I'm looking for a thinkpad with a similar minimalist aesthetic to the t440s
1080p minimum
ips is a must
I'm not bothered about a touch screen
i5 minimum
16:10 1200p ips would be best if they exist
I'm not bothered about chiclet keys
What are my best options or is the t440s my best bet?
>>53624209
>16:10 1200p ips would be best if they exist
13" rMBP :^)
>>53624406
I meant existing for thinkpads, I know rmbps have them but I just hate the look and the price
>>53624416
Add an extra 30 bucks for a usable touchpad on the T440s.
>>53618256
x230 were NOT affected
>>53622326
>>53623015
>>53623467
samefag
Nobody gives a shit about you deprecated piece of IT trash. Put it into the loo and kill yourself
>X1C
>2.2GHZ Broadwell i5
>8GB Ram
>only the fullHD screen
>LTE
>labeled keyboard and scratched outside
>830 Eurobucks
Do it or not?
Kinda worried about the only 8GB of RAM, but I guess with a SSD, running into /swap will not mean doing a 10 minutes break anymore?
also, its only full HD, which is only 157dpi, compared to 123 on my current X200. And those 123 are pretty low…
>>53618087
>9/10 machine, just waiting for linoz support now.
If you are still here, care to elaborate a bit more?
On the fence for one too, especially given their edu prices with the QHD screens, but linux support seems to really suck ATM.
>>53624209
>I'm looking for a thinkpad with a similar minimalist aesthetic to the t440s
how about the T450s? Or the T460s? Or if you want older and cheaper, the T430s? Or the T420s (or was that the series where the now s was the u?). Or any other semi-current thinkpad, since they all have absolutely the same astetics, besides the X1, which still looks similar enough, and the 15" ones, where they added a rtarded off-center keyboard.
>>53624538
Wait, can't you just add RAM into it if you want to?
>>53624604
Nope. Soldered, because >muh ultrabook
The T450s has 4GB soldered + one slot, which is kinda retarded on the one hand, but on the other hand, seems like a quite OK compromise. But other than that, the X1C really seems like some sweet machine, but I regurlarly fill up my RAM, when I work with large datasets [pretend-spoiler]in ipython and libreoffice[/pretend-spoiler]
>>53624599
yeah the 450s and 460s look decent, is the 460s worth the extra cost?
also, how is the trackpad on these two, would I need to do any replacements?
>>53624599
Having had a T410s, a T440s and now a T460s, the T440s was by far the worst experience. The touchpad was fucking ass, and the lack of separate trackpoint buttons was a dick move. Luckily they fixed this in the 460s. The 410 was a solid piece of machinery and still runs like a champ.
The 460s even has an easy-to-remove bottom cover which allows access to most components. The 440s required prying tools if i remember correctly, and had those nasty plastic clips that were sure to break should you try and open it.
>>53624664
Oh and as mentioned, it has 4GB soldered on, and one slot. Got mine with a 4GB stick of DDR4 from the factory (+ the 4 soldered in), took that out and put in 16GB for a total of 20GB. The lack of an external removable battery is slightly disconcerting, though.
Are ideapads any good?
>>53625888
What if im broke?
>>53625910
Used thinkpad
>>53625910
then buy a used thinkpad?
that's the point of these threads, laptops for poorfags
>>53625919
>>53625921
>used
Since the new thinkpads lost their iconic design, I dont really feel opposed to "improve" them with stickers anymore.
How cringeworthy would pic related be?
>>53625936
>not used
>>53625936
Well, your mum's used, but what are you trying to imply with that greentext?
>>53625939
Needs some IBM related stuff
Why are ideapads bad?
>>53625936
this is why you'll stay poor, retard
>>53626005
Why, because I don't want to spend $1k on a chinkpad?
>>53626030
buy a secondhand thinkpad for $200
>>53626067
Are they really that cheap? Where do you get them?
>>53626030
see
>>53614041
Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
99% of the people here aren't spending $1k on their chinkpads
>>53626115
Did you even read the fucking OP?
>>53614041
>>53626115
retard
Can somebody explain the full vs low voltage thing that's going around? How do you know which models have that? Is it just 15W vs 35W ? If so then why low voltage newer models are shunned upon? Shouldn't they give better battery life while still performing good as an older full voltage?
>>53616055
Nice inspiron 15R
based overcharging t420 battery
>>53626201
>Shouldn't they give better battery life while still performing good as an older full voltage?
yeah
Any /tpg/ wisdom on the X1C, or is that too expensive for the poorfags amassed here?
Since the retard move to 16:9, a 14" screen is the absolute minimum (the move from my X61 or a X200 already was a huge downgrade), but a 14" laptop is way to big to carry around, so I have to get an ultrabook, and the X1 seems to be the chinkpad among ultrabooks.
but is it?
Went back to the thrift shop, but there was only one CF-T8 left.
Reminder that Core 2 Duo is more than enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWiuMi9Ss_I
>>53626461
For most shit, yeah it really is.
>>53626431
>tfw there will never be an affordable western rz5
I have never used those panasonic keyboards? How is typing on them?
>>53626461
True.
Posted from a Core 2 Duo machine.
>>53626431
I love my old CF 73, too bad it's so slow that you can't do anything productive except perhaps writing.
>>53626793
It's okay.
>>53626793
They're okay. The layout and key shape is a little weird but the feel is good and there is absolutely zero flex.
>>53622301
Anyone? I read the buyer's guide before posting, but most of the think-pads I was interested in had lower res displays.
>>53627074
you won't find an old small form factor thinkpad with a 1920x1080 display
>>53626906
>The layout and key shape is a little weird
yeah, it seems they're a bit lazy to conform to the larger western layouts
So Panasonic is a fan of constant hardware revision and there are four different variants of the T8. The machine I picked up yesterday is a top-spec Mk.4, but the one I got today is a Mk.1.5 with a slightly slower C2D U9300.
They've also consolidated their driver downloads so that the 32-bit drivers come with 64-bit ones as well, but not all marks of machines have the same driver listing. Despite fully supporting Win7 x64, the Mk. 1.5 has no drivers for it despite the internal hardware being basically identical to the Mk.4. The solution of course is to simply install the Mk.4's Win7 driver package.
I almost want to hunt down a Let's Note top cover and Japanese keyboard for the full JDM tyte experience.
>>53627444
>So Panasonic is a fan of constant hardware revision and there are four different
this is really annoying. Their model naming system makes it even worse to follow
>>53627592
Yeah, there are two body styles of CF-T8s as well, one is larger and has a CD drive built into the palmrest.
>>53627652
I guess they r e a l l y don't care about the general market
I can bet the majority of their sales come from contract purchases so they don't care too much about how many iterations of a model will exist in the end.
Keep in mind that they will also assemble custom models for large contract buyers. I'm unsure how those get labeled as models
What linux distros do you think would run well on a T420 with 4GB RAM and an i5 @ 2.50 Ghz ?
Just wondering if I should stick to lighter weight distros or if I'll be fine with some of the heavier/more fully featured DE's and whatnot
>>53627983
"Light distros" are designed for turn of the century, single core, 512mb ram machines.
Your i5 will be fine with any distros you throw at it
>>53627592
That thing looks like it was made in 2006, surprised it has a SATA connector and can take that SSD
>>53628279
Panasonic is not exactly into bowing down to consumer trends
They're still making circular trackpad models till this day I believe
http://panasonic.jp/pc/products/sz5y/
>>53627983
Always go Chakra
>>53628613
I've never heard of this distro. Is it difficult to install? I'm no Arch-wizard
>>53628640
It's really fucking easy, you can boot from your usb drive and test it
Someone said something about modifying the BIOS to make CPU upgrade. Does anyboady have any link with this information?
>>53614041
does anyone here have any suggestions on repairing a non functioning ac adapter
>>53628774
Depends on what's broken.. Buy a new one..
>saw a qt in the library the other day with the same thinkpad as me (x61)
>was to autistic to approach her
damn'it guys, what the fuck.
So I sold my alienware m14x r2 because I don't fucking play games and I'm not in college anymore so I don't need to be running 10 VMs. I'm feeling the bite of not having the convenience of a laptop now though. I've tried using my asus eee netbook but it's too small and starts to chug with 2 or 3 browser tabs open. Will I regret buying a chinkpad?
Has anyone managed to get Bumblebee working correctly on their thinkpads? Any recommendations?
>>53614277
>fix
The only fix is to replace them. Check OP's service training link for the guide
>>53628804
She would've rejected you anyway, you ugly fat fuck.
>>53629065
Look into latitudes. The smaller ones are god tier.
Well then
T400 with 4GB of RAM for 120€
or
X200 with 2GB of RAM for 95€?
Yes, I'm poor.
>>53630011
Bigger machine or smaller machine?
>>53630011
What do you want and what do you need?
>>53630052
I have literally zero experience with laptops so fuck me if I know.
The X200 has no touchpad.
>>53630410
Built quality, good keyboard, most of the time it will be used for excel or even lighter stuff.
>>53630011
Get that T400, it's trackpad is bigger and has the lower buttons on it, and you can get bigger than a 1280x800 without it being all tiny.
>>53630011
If the 120€ is all you can spend, then look for a cheap ssd and buy the X200. I'm currently using X200s with 3GB of RAM and c2d L9400, recently upgraded it with ssd, installed xubuntu and that's pretty comfy.
>>53630577
I usually like to buy something that fits my needs and no more, but if it would be a good idea to go over the 200€ range for a T420 I will do it.
>>53630639
I've seen T420 with 1600x900 screen for as cheap as 150€ on German ebay. I think it'd be a good choice.
>>53630823
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2520M-2-5-GHz-2GB-320GB-Win7-14-Webcam-B-T410-/311502993472?hash=item4887067840:g:B5sAAOSwJkJWl1t0
I found this one, also appears on my country eBay.
But I can get really autismal about dead pixels and screen marks so I'm not very confident about buying B ware stuff.
When I said over 200€ I meant good condition, 1600x900 and SSD.
>>53630881
might not be a chinkpad but here you go
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6410-Core-i5-2-4GHz-4Gb-160GB-SSD-DVD-RW-Windows7-Pro-WLAN-/361481990291?hash=item542a017093:g:WlYAAOSwoydWsKhL
>>53631015
Love that design of Latitude, highly recommend it, they even had the bottom sliding off bullshit in 2008 way before lenovo.
>>53631015
I've been keeping an eye at that seller's stuff, the T420 "equivalente" of that in terms of ram, SSD and condition is 250€, but he takes offers, I can try to get it for 20-30€ cheaper wich would be a decent price for me, and it has a better CPU.
But I'll keep that in mind as well.
>>53630881
There must be a shop with used computers in your town. They would most likely have a pile of used ThinkPads, Dells etc. and you can check each and every one in order to find the one you will be ok with.
>>53631199
I live in Spain, Thinkpads aren't very popular here, same with used computers store.
I would have to restort to pawn stores with a 100% chance of getting jewed.
>>53631393
this reminds me how luck I am, I can just take a subway to find a shiton of used computer parts and notebooks.
>>53631393
Fellow spanishfag here.
Bought this one for 279e (german eBay shop) but I ordered i5 2520/8GB/320 with no nVidia and they sent me i5 2640/8GB/320 with nVidia card.
Added 32GB msata SSD + 500GB HDD.
Shit was cash.
Good luck.
>>53631829
i7* , sorry
>have a T400 and a T420
>but still I prefer using the T400 because of better screen and no awkward headphone jack
oh well
I bought a t440 for 300 bucks, did I fuck up?
>>53632083
I feel you, I'm after a T420, but prefer the 16:10, heavy, premium feeling E6400 with removable bottom.
Holy fuck the internet is going to shit in my house. Less than DSL speeds currently
>>53632147
yeah, after using a 16:10 screen for 7 years I just can't downgrade to a 16:9 screen
Hey guys is a Thinkpad T450 with the following specs worth $535? Thanks
-New
-Intel® Core™ i3-5010U Processor (3M Cache, 2.10 GHz)
-Intel HD Graphics 5500
-8 GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600MHz SODIMM Memory
-14.0" HD WXGA (1366 X 768) LED Backlight w/720p HD Camera
-UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad) with Fingerprint Reader
-500GB, 7200RPM Serial ATA 2.5" Hard Drive and 16 GB Micro Solid State Drive
-No Optical Included
-Integrated 3-cell (23.2Wh) plus External 3-cell Lithium Ion (23.2Wh)
-Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265, Wi-Fi + Bluetooth combo
-Bluetooth
-Integrated Wireless Wide Area Network upgradable
-Fingerprint Reader
-1 Year Depot Warranty
>>53632537
>i3
>1366x768
>3 + 3-cell battery
it's not worth anything
>>53632537
No.
Anyone got insight on the thinkpad yoga 460? Its out now, but the supposed dgpu option has been suspiciously missing for a couple weeks. Without that dgpu its just a generic overpriced thinkpad. Dgpu when?
Does this piss anyone else off as it does me? Its the worst most annoying feature on thinking pads.
I have an X131e and its utter shit. Are there better chinkpads?
>>53632537
why would you get that when you can buy an older i5 with fhd and 9 cell battery for the same price? and fuck the warranty, you can change the parts yourself
Just won a T420i i3 thinkpad for $143 on ebay sort of on accident. what do. is it horrible deal?
It was for my daughter
>>53633648
>daughter
Unless she's the best daughter ever and is savvy with the shit, she'll be fine.
>>53633648
cosmetic wear? hd? 9/6 cells battery?
Tell us more anon.
>>53633669
she's 3 lol. she likes to youtube and netflix. I am just wondering if it's a bad deal desu. i like my T420.
Guessing her specs will be fine plus an SSD of course.
Here are specs. oh damn 1600x900
didn't notice thatProcessor: Intel Core i3 2350M 2.30GHz dual core
Memory: 4GB
Storage: 320GB hard drive
Display: 14" (1600 x 900 resolution)
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000 series graphics
Built in Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 wireless WiFi card
Built-in SD memory card reader
eSATA port
DisplayPort external video port
Ethernet port
VGA output port
3 USB 2.0 ports
>>53633707
>1600x900
Good father, gettin the good shit.
>>53633756
yeah phew. 1600x900 is a deal breaker fo rme. glad it had it. i did bid on my phone and never saw lol. wasn't t hinking i'd win. all is well
>>53633482
I don't get it
What feature you find annoying?
Should I upgrade my ThinkPad to Windows 10?
>>53632705
Been following the 460 since the September announcement , its been one the most delayed releases in a long tiem. I have heard 2 things, there's some kind of shortage of 940s for leveno, or they have scrapped the 940 option all together. Dig in senpai, it still "may" become an option.
What do you prefer using, the T420 or the X220? Is the 1600x900 screen on the T420 noticeably inferior to an IPS X220 screen?
>>53633988
if ivy bridge or newer then yes, if older then no
Today, I am enlightened. Goddamn those hinges are making me go hnnggg every time I open the lid. That keyboard, yes the new chiclet one, is the best one I tried on a laptop. I thought these were made of plastic and today I realize I couldn't be more wrong. This thing feels as premium as my macbooks. They don't creak or bend and, from what I've seen, they don't get the ugly dents along the edges that aluminum macbooks do after some years.
I love this thing! T460s.
I really dislike scrolling with my trackpoint. Need advice. I like the idea of it, but scrolling down is disproportionately hard compared to scrolling any other direction because of how index finders work. I feel like the drivers should account for this, but in the meanwhile I have to use my fingernail to fast-scroll through something like this thread. Which feels terrible against the soft plastic of course.
>>53633825
It's bait, carry on.
>>53634086
I use trackpad gestures for scrolling most of the time
>>53634035
>sandy bridge
FTFY
>>53634174
Probably works well, but I'm giving the trackpoint a 2-week trial period to see if the hype is real.
>>53634211
>Intel 80386
FTFY
>>53634211
Lenovo doesn't officially have any driver support for W10 on sandy bridge
>>53634303
Fucking hell. Will it still work at least?
>>53634315
only one way to find out
>>53634398
Can I revert to Windows 7 if I get kekked?
>>53634315
Yes, I run Windows 10 on an X220, T420, and my PC with an i7 2600.
>>53634403
You're getting rused as fuck
w10 is perfectly fine on sandy bridge with official drivers.
>>53634426
I'm not rusing and there are no "official" drivers
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht103535
Guys help, in my country the chinkpads arent that popular but we have smtg. I read the user thinkpad guide but there is no info on the x100e, its recomendable or its a no-no?
Can you use an eGPU (like the gtx 950 using a PE4C v3) on a T530 with nvidia graphics? Was the TOLUD thing fixed? Send help
>>53618045
Oh wow, its a lot thicker than I thought
Also that chest plate on its lid, nice.
I've sort of been liking those a bit more, your's is pretty nice anon, keep it up :3
>>53618162
I liked this most when it comes to showing something on my X61T or when drawing.
>>53619362
Jesus, I'm glad my voice ended up sounding like a slobby crusty homo than that. ugh
>>53620839
>that backdrop
>>53622326
If anything Sony's UMPC might be accepted here because they are neat but its is still not a business machine for the most part
>>53624538
Had the 4K panel on a broadlel unit, was too much for my eyes sadly
Get it if its IPS, its your money, I was dissapointed with the lack of performance it had, undervolted and underpowered fan sucked for the i5 i had.
>>53626030
Even the 'decent' IdeaPad will run you $500, you might as well buy a ThinkPad Edge
>>53628640
Its easy, but it didn't support a desktop I used and two different laptops I tried...
>>53632093
Maybe
But nah
>>53632537
>i3
you will regret wasting more than $300 on that thing
>>53633648
>T420i
>i
eh, so long as it has a good battery and came with an AC adapter, you are fine.
>>53634026
Nah IPS X220 would be superior IMO
>>53635908
X100e is a bad decision in today's standards
Very underpowered, DDR2 RAM, wonky build quality.
I found an X130e with an AMD E-450 decent but not well... good.
>arguably better performance than this X300 with its 1.4GHz Core 2 Duo.
What end-user upgrades should I throw into my X220?
8GB of ram and a ~500-1000GB SSD?
Crucial seems to have reasonably priced upgrades on the interwebs but I'd like to find something cheaper.
Got any recommendations?
Do guys own any other business hardware besides chinkpads?
>>53636213
1. IPS (Although you may not want to do it yourself especially considering the cost)
2. Bluetooth (if your X220 doesn't have it, although it was finicky for me)
3. 250 GB SSD
4. USB 3.0 ExpressCard
5. External HDD (for backup)
6. RAM is last thing to upgrade, if you really want to or need it
>>53636410
Not really, though I did like the E6430s (basically an E6330 with a 14" screen, smaller bezel)
I buy and flip laptops and I work at a recycler so I get other laptops.
Hoping to snag a Dreamcolor Elitebook, or Ultrasharp Precision to compliment my T430s.
Oh and I am a Pixel fanboy, but thats just coz its an ultrabook shitposting machine.
dos t420 w/ integrated graphics run minecraft and stardew?
>>53636410
I have two Optiplex 745s and my two Latitudes.
>>53636410
~50 OptiPlex 780s
>>53636700
>OptiPlex 780
That's where I got the idea of a tough desktop machine back in 2013, my high school had em and they were beat to shit, cases dented, and they still worked.
>>53636719
my fleet is USFF which can be a pain, but you can probably throw the damn things out of a car while pivoting a table
>>53636754
>USFF
That sucks, i hate proprietary desktops, my school had a mix where the towers were 780s and the USFFs were 755s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmsP-n5BqE4
[GO]
>>53636197
So my dad asked me for a computer and gave me $220 to work with. His requested minimum specs were i5 and 6GB of RAM
I got him a T420i with an i5 and 6GB of RAM, 900p screen, iGPU, and a 128GB SSD with Win7Ult installed by a local refurbisher. It also came with a second HDD installed in the drive bay, but I snagged it cause he didn't need it.
Good deal? He's gonna mount it in a car for mobile workstation
>>53636966
>Win 7 Ult
Possibly paid extra for that but given you have gotten an extra HDD out of it, I'd say thats a good price for a local shop
NewEgg sells them for $230 with worse specs.
>>53637053
I found a really cheap T420 on fleabay, but dad wanted it "the day before yesterday" as he stated
Sent me the money to grab it on Monday and had me pick it up same day. Then he came to my house to collect it a few hours later and put it to work that same night.
I bought it from the same guy I got my own T420 from. Same price too. And same specs, but mine came with a dGPU that I can't fucking get working under Ubuntu and no spare HDD
>>53637053
Oh, and to add to
>>53637081
Mine came with a 9cell battery that he threw in that lasts about 5 or 6 hours and a 55% 6cell. I don't know if that adds to the value or not
The one I got my dad has a nongenuine battery but it is at 97% health
>>53617657
if i recall correctly, there is a way to display back into your internal monitor, but only nvidia supports it and it further decreases the performance of your eGPU.
Is the x201 still a viable machine for day-to-day usage?
>>53637243
Oh god yes, that Arrandale chip will get you by today, I use the old Penryn and get good modern usage out of it.
>>53621179
To be honest family I would much rather have a bit of flex than to be missing many, many keys
>>53637283
That's a relief. I heard that sandy bridge was a significant leap in performance and was worried that the older gen just wouldn't cut it in comparison.
>>53637081
Ubuntu doesn't work? it shouldn't be a problem... but I haven't messed with a T420 much.
Solid that you dad wanted it 'right now' lol could of been a lot worse POS machine.
>>53637105
genuine or 3rd party dont make a big difference IMO. As long as it doesn't die within 6 months, you still risk that with OEMs as well.
>>53637338
It is but you should be fine with an SSD and 4GB RAM.
The main benefit is better iGPU performance and other things but if you want that 16:10 screen, lid latches and an ultrabase that would let you charge a second battery, get that thing. :)
>>53635922
Help
>>53637360
I'm trying to get the dGPU to work correctly. It displays at some stupid low res that I can SEE THE FUCKING PIXELS in simply because it doesn't know what to do with it
I can't get Ubuntu to use the dGPU correctly
I tried to rig it with Bumblebee (nvidia optimus replacement) but I can't get it to work and I'm just about pissed off enough to reinstall Ubuntu from scratch out of frustration
>>53636410
optiplex 755 sff or something. really small desktop, laptop dvd drive thing. c2d and 2gb of ram so i really have no use for it now.
My T420 makes a weird buzzing sound when I'm scrolling using the scroll button and the nipple, but ONLY when I'm running on battery power.
If I'm plugged in, it doesn't make the weird buzzing sound.
Any ideas as to why?
>>53637732
>no use for it now
Excuse my crappy house at the time, but if you get a geforce GT610 and slap the low profile bracket on it, optiplexes with dual cores can playback a bluray rip in 1080p perfectly, there is always a use for these things.
>>53637817
>there are always uses for these things
There are, but i dont have one. I have a basic lelnovo consumer laptop hooked up to a couple monitors that is way more powerful as my movie watching setup. I have a radeon 4540 for it, but its still a closet piece.
>>53637792
i get that too. always put it down to chink magic sounds.
>>53637895
It doesn't drive you crazy?
>>53637918
it does, but i constantly have music on so i dont really hear it. does it with the trackpad too on my machine.
>>53634086
Wait... Am i the only person who uses their middle finger for trackpointing?
I have an opportunity to get either a T420 for 200 euros or a T440p for 600. Which one would you say is the better deal?
>>53638145
T420 will work great as your main machine, but T440p is 22nm hardware and is a decent amount faster, but i don't think it justifies paying $600.
>>53638220
>$600.
600 euros**
>>53638145
Buy 3 T420's and set up triple LCD and be three times as productive
>>53638238
>Buy 3 T420's
This, only because I am a hoarder.
>>53638238
theres a way to do this under Linux/ i remember an app that let me do this with my old powermac and VNC, but last the i searched there wasnt anything similar for other OSes
>>53638289
There might be, seems proprietary and I never used it though: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/31355/connect-2-laptops-together-in-dualhead-mode
>>53638348
>$10 for software ill maybe use once a month
Makes sense in a commercial environment, not a NEET one.
Are there any issues in buying something as old as a T60 other than the obvious? Should I be avoiding ATI graphics because of driver issues or anything like that which will come to bite me?
I'll be using GNU/Linux exclusively if that makes any difference.
Alternatively, are there any other laptops that maintained 4:3 for as long as the Thinkpads did?
>>53638485
The T60 can only run 32bit things, but 32 bit GNU Linux is still available, though U'm not sure about browser support in the future. Also I don't think any other laptops did 4:3 as long as thinkpads did, they are a curmudgeon machine.
>>53638485
The major weaknesses of the T60 are the 32-bit Yonah CPU, the 3GB RAM limit, and the shitty overheating wireless card. Even if you get the Merom refresh, you'll still be stuck with that 3GB limit because of the shitty chipset. ATI graphics are usable if you install a T500 fan, but if you're using Linux there isn't much reason to bother. Making the T601F solves all three problems without having to compromise on 4:3.
>>53638348
Seems there is a GPL version http://synergy-project.org/download/free/ . works well, now i can use the trackpoint for everything i own
>i3
>i5
>i7
Can anyone redpill me on those for the broadwell generation in "ultrabooks" (=undervolted?)
How shitty is an i3, and how much power does an i7 waste?
How much of a
>Holy fucking shit! this shit flies!
can I expect when I am coming from a C2D on either one of those?
How future proof are they? Especially considering pic related (though I think that are desktop chips) and this: http://www.economist.com/technology-quarterly/2016-03-12/after-moores-law
I mostly care about battery life, and speed-wise, my C2D isnt really feeling that slow, but I definitely want a machine that'll be good for at least 5 years.
>>53639222
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html
Despite being a lowly i3 3120m, my sisters toshiba smokes my Q6600 and my Core 2 Duo laptop, while using the same 35w as my laptop, so even if you buy on the low end, the intel Ivy Bridge and newer are pretty fast, while using little power, and I see them being decent yars from now.
cost isn't a factor, is there any reason to go for an older T-series instead of a newer one?
(I'm mostly looking from T400 to T420, i don't want any of the clickpaddy chickletty nonsense.)
criteria is basically best performance, i can filter prices myself.
>>53639259
>http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html
Thanks!
Too bad that my C2D aint in the list, but I guess it's way slower anyways.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-2-Duo-P8600-Notebook-Processor.23026.0.html
