Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
>Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
>Filepicker pasta:
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/49c1d0eea4b64f24c4c7
>Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:
rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
Haven't tried Ubuntoes mainline for ages, thinking of going back to it for 16.04, what's the Ubuntu equivalent to Compton (I've been using Xubuntu like a normal person)
>>53608891
>GNU/Linux
>using GNU shit instead of superior alternatives
CVE-2014-6271, aka Shellshock, allowed complete compromise of systems running GANOO BASH. After looking at the 20 year old, shit spaghetti code researchers discovered CVE-2014-6277, CVE-2014-6278, CVE-2014-7169, CVE-2014-7186, and CVE-2014-7187. More secure/faster/better alternatives include csh, tcsh, and pdksh.
CVE-2015-7547, a glibc getaddrinfo() vulnerability that allows anyone able to send UDP packets to your computer to compromise it, affects basically EVERY PIECE OF SOFTWARE that uses GANOO glibc. More secure/faster/smaller/better alternatives include musl and uClibc.
>>53609103
you sure you actually need compton on it? alsy why not use compton on it?
>tfw you fell for the SS meme
T-thanks, /fit/
>>53609205
Because afaik compton wasn't intended for Ubuntu. I think it used to be Compiz but not sure what it uses now.
>>53609255
yeah im going to need source on that fine lady
GAMES ON LINUX
All tested and played..
ADVENTURE: beneath-a-steel-sky, flight-of-the-amazon-queen, lure-of-the-temptress, out-of-order
ARCADE: 2h4u, etw, frozen-bubble, teeworlds,
BALL GAMES: neverball, neverputt
PUZZLE: whichwayisup, connectagram, anagramarama, gnubg, blinken, brainparty, gbrainy, xsol, pokerth, kcheckers, xboard, xmpuzzles, xword, einstein, quarry, grhino, gnugo, qgo, uligo
pingus, warmux, miceamaze, xsok fillets-ng
xshisen, colorcode, kitsune, gmult, scribble, xshogi, gnome-sudoku, gtans, ltris, xwelltris, glotski, groundhog, numptyphysics, phlipple, peg-e, gmchess
ROGUELIKE: crawl, freedink, freedroidrpg, gearhead, nethack-console
SHOOT EM UP: luola, marsshooter, starfighter, slingshot, torus-trooper, uqm, xgalaga++
STRATEGY: curseofwar, liquidwar, openttd, gtkatlantic monopd, 0ad, netpanzer, unknown-horizons, warzone2100, dopewars, singularity, freeciv-client-gtk freeciv-client-extras, freeorion, lordsawar, teg, pioneers, lgeneral, triplea
VEHICLE SIMULATION: searchandrescue, armagetronad, supertuxkart, oolite, vegastrike vegastrike-music, openssn, openbve
VIRTUAL WORLD: minetest
From other repositories
Mars Simulation Project
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mars-sim/files/latest/download
Scrabble3D
http://sourceforge.net/projects/scrabble/files/latest/download
Cataclysm, Dark Days Ahead
sudo apt-get install git
git clone git://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA.git
cd Cataclysm-DDA
sudo apt-get install lua5.1 lua5.1-dev
sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev build-essential
make -j4 LOCALIZE=0 RELEASE=1 LUA=1
The Liberal Crime Squad
http://lcs.wikidot.com/start
PLAYDEB
opendungeons : like dungeon keeper, but up to date
openra : command and conquer red alert
megamek : mech warrior
ufoai : x com
xonotic : first person shooter
urbanterror : first person shooter
worldofpadman : first person shooter
>>53609290
Yeah, I think it's modified Compiz but in my experience it has worked as good as/better than Xfce/+Compton
>no_thumbnails.png
>>53609109
>Mom, I don't know what a 0-day means
Back to speccy thread, retard
There's so much noise in these threads. People posting the same shit over and over again, like this >>53609109 or that one person who thinks he's funny for posting the Stallman interjection all the time. Another thing which is obnoxious are the people asking subjective, million times answered questions like "which distribution should I try?".
>>53609255
who is this trap ?
>>53609355
When will gtk cucks even learn?
>>53608891
>"don't fucking touch me"
I feel you Richard, I hate when people do that to me
>>53609357
>using code from groups with shitty security and development policies
>>53609336
hey shitty apps guy, i see you decided to be productive again and not a faggot, thanks.
>>53609395
>>53609424
>>53609109
stop flaming
>>53609424
Stop trying this hard to fit in. >>>/g/speccy
>>53609395
>upholding dolphin as paragon of excellence
wut
>>53609483
Tell me one file manager that is superior to Dolphin
>>53609507
ranger
>>53609395
Is it true that qt is proprietary? I read on wikipedia that some company owns the trademark and copyright.
>>53609534
You can embed terminal on dolphin.
>>53609507
>>53609534
fucking ranger is what >>53609483 literaly was about to say. word.
I don't understand terminal themes. If i use monokai in vim the colors aren't right. Do I need to make my terminal use the same colors as vim, or is there a way to make vim ignore my terminal theme.
>>53609536
KDE is fsf approved
>>53609448
Thanks.
But wasn't the infographic guy also called shitty apps guy? I think there might be a confusion here.
is it still possible to boot linux on a playstation 3 (from usb)?
>>53609536
the user stuff is FOSS but some is licensed under a commercial license that is incompatible to DSFG but is FSF approved. it's a clusterfuck of licensing,
I have a system running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and I was wondering if there are any advantages to using the proprietary amd driver over the open source driver, or vice versa. I have an hd6870 so not sure if amd driver is good or not.
>>53609694
try them both and find out.
>>53609536
http://www.qt.io/licensing/
Also
>I read on wikipedia that some company owns the trademark and copyright.
Copyleft is a form of exercising copyright. Also Linux a trademark. Those concepts have nothing to do with libre software.
>>53609616
oh, i just though so because he announced that he wanted to make a games list some time ago. thanks for your work.
>>53609635
it was but it might be a bit harder now that sony went full asshole. booting from usb like you would on a normal computer is probably impossible but don't take my word for it. the best thing i found was some german forum https://psxtools.de/index.php/Thread/66717-Tutorial-Linux-auf-der-PS3-installieren/#56f037744d783_0
>>53609727
Fair enough. Will do.
>>53609694
on old kernel versions get the proprietary one, on newer kernels with newer cards use the FOSS one.
>>53609316
http://xxnaomi-lukarixx.deviantart.com/
>>53609534
Exactly how? Ranger is a vim-inspired one-paneled cripple that doesn't even have a remote filesystem support.
>>53609316
>lady
>>53609694
I had 6850 and it was really good for desktop use with the free radeon drivers. Everything just werked. If you need to play heavy games you might have to use the Catalyst drivers but desu they're horrible otherwise.
>>53609635
No. Not without jailbreak
>>53609829
>remote filesystem support
you're gonna brag with bloat that could be achieved otherwise? typical KDE user.
>>53609829
>remote filesystem support
never mounted a remote share?
vim keybindings are like breathing to me. natural.
cmus with vim keys is orgasmic.
The only thing wrong with ranger is the speed of it's python.
Why do people even install ranger when you got a terminal to do your jobs
>>53610150
because i can just press the right arrow key and open a text file. no clicking, no additional commands.
>>53610150
Well, when you're searching for the perfect video during a furious bout of self-pleasure, not having to type 'mpv hotclitoralstimulation.mkv -fs -loop=inf' is preferred.
Also, I don't own a mouse. So that probably factors in somewhere, also.
>>53610150
Why do people install any kind of GUI, DE, WM, when you can do literally everything from terminal?
>>53609694
I remember having a bad time installing drivers for my card (R9 290). Can probably redo it all in 5min now though
Reminder that Ranger comes with file preview, is GPL, and only its python sucks but otherwise is a cool file manager.
>>53610298
Kek it doesn't even have tiny gtk thumbnails
>>53610298
Reminder that it looks like a pile of shit
>>53610244
>r9 290
>using proprietary drivers
for what purpose?
Anyone here use fish?
How do I set colors on my user@host and how do I set colors on my fish_greeting?set fish_greeting "Hello"but with colors
>>53610320
>>53610322
Not everyone likes bloat. Plus, is good for my ADHD.
>>53610298
>Reminder that Ranger comes with file preview
you need to have the a specific terminal for image preview though
Do awesome themes automatically change the terminal font colors?
>>53610391
>Not everyone likes bloat
Not everyone likes features*
fixed there
>>53610395
which one does it work with?
I have a lenovo y510p with two nvidia graphics cards (gt 750m), and I installed opensuse on it.
I tried to update the nvidia graphics drivers using this guide https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers and now my computer claims its resolution is 1080 when it's really 720.
Does anybody know how to fix this?
Will post more relevant information as requested.
So i was installing Debian, and there was a Network Hardware issue. It basically said, some of my hardware needs non-free firmware files.
Now I already found the file
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/kernel/firmware-realtek
Do I just copy it into my usb and then try again? It's a .deb file
>>53610442
yes that would work but you could also use http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/
or use Ethernet to install firmware-linux-nonfree
How is it possible that twitch.tv is raping a 4 cores i3 with a ssd and 12gb of ram when I made the browser convert everything to html5?
>>53610395
No you don't.
>>53610510
Don't know dude never used twitch.
>>53610510
because you use flash.
at least stream it with mpv through youtube-dl.
>>53610510
>4 cores i3
>>53608891
me on the right
>>53610442
If that doesn't work, try putting it in another usb other than the one with the installation files. You may need to mount it in the tty to /lib/firmware yourself though.
>>53610395
you meran fb activated by default, rarely terminals present problems
>>53610514
It works with xterm and urxvt, but only if w3m is installed.
also, iTerm2 supports it, but who uses iTerm2.
>>53610598
>iTerm2
gay people
Help, my root is almost full, my root for my fileserver is on a 16GB usb 3.0.
I partitioned wrong and giving /home too much space that I will never use. How can I repartition to make /home smaller for space on root without fucking up my root filesFilesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/root 8.8G 7.3G 1.1G 88% /
>>53610598
Well, it works on most terminals. Most people who fail to get picture preview working think it's the terminal, but actually, it's bit-depth related. When you use a terminal with 32bit+transparency enabled, w3m-img can't display it, but without, it works.
Example with urxvt:
urxvt -depth 24 -e bash -ic "ranger"
urxvt -depth 32 -e bash -ic "ranger"
>>53610718
found the author, aparantly
>>53610598
xterm and urxvt are the best terminals out there anyway
>>53610705
gparted
>>53610510
>taking a picture of your screen
>>53610718
meh. I don't really think image previews are worth compiling and packaging w3m.
But thanks for the effort.
>>53610813
I don't have X
Which distro would be good for work?
I mean, I have been using Arch for a couple of years but sometimes now and then I had to pacman -Syyu and after a reboot my system got broken, now I'm working and cannot afford that. The arch dev comments from these days do not help neither.
I really want a minimal system install, but stable also. I've been using Mint right now, but I'd prefer something more minimal, thought about funtoo?
>>53610854
> compiling and packaging w3m
wut? Don't you have a package manager for that?
Also leaving this here:alias img='w3m -o ext_image_viewer=off'
>>53609336
Any tower defence games?
Literally the only genre I like.
>>53610874
luckily gparted doesn't rely on X
Grub will break my windows 10? I saw post about win10 dont boot installing ubuntu...
>>53610914
Windows 10 is already broken.
>>53610901
>package manager
Proud Slackware user.
>>53610854
Is not, w3m-img is the only thing you need.
>>53610874
Use parted then
Or install xauth. You don't need a running X-server to run X applications
>>53610914
I run Windows 10 and Linux on the same machine, grub2, EFI. Though I imagine it's possible to fuck something up and break your existing Windows installation
>>53610933
I thought you were extinct.
>>53610965
Im using uefi kek
>>53610906# required by dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.24.4-r3::gentoo
# required by sys-block/gparted-0.25.0::gentoo
# required by gparted (argument)
>=x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.32.3 X
# required by dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.24.4-r3::gentoo
# required by sys-block/gparted-0.25.0::gentoo
# required by gparted (argument)
>=dev-cpp/cairomm-1.12.0-r1 X
Can I just do it on fdisk? Last time I checked fdisk will fuck up my root if I repartition it
>>53610965
>Linux
>>53608891
I bet that water was bottled using non free software.
>>53610993
You're a funny guy.
>>53611012
rude
>>53610985
Oh shit, that was not the software I thought it was.
Disregard my ignorant ass assumption that it didn't require X.
>>53610985
>fdisk
fdisk mustard race
>>53610899
anyone?
Well, general call out for console application on par with GPARTED.
Anyone?
>>53611117
parted if GPT, fdisk if MBR
>>53609507
midnight commander
>>53610899
Tinycore Linux
>>53610899
Debian stable, no backports.
>>53611117
>>53611142
Also do keep in mind that parted Instantly applied changes. So don't go Willy nilly typing shit
>>53611160
What's wrong with backports?
>>53609507
Literally gentoo
>>53610209
Try watching videos from a TTY and see how far you get
>>53610510
Lmao u fags want me to download linux and that shit can even run websites hahaahahah
>>53611182
Nothing but it makes your system less stable. Not that it matters.
>>53611199
Reminder that /flt/ is noob friendly.
>>53610914
It should work with grub2 and set to uefi mode. It's a lot easier to duel boot with a fresh copy of Windows I've noticed, OEM Windows doesn't play nice at all.
>>53611159
Does this have a package manager?
How goes the software installation with this, seems **really** appealing for a person like me.
>>53611199
nice wordplay microsoft telemarketer
>>53611240
I never tried it myself.
>>53611199
Name a single kernel that can run websites.
>>53611269
Linux
>>53611199
>implying the vast majority of websites aren't hosted on linux servers
>>53611240
Just go with Debian or Ubuntu server (yes, that's a thing).
>>53611258
> never tried it myself
> I recommend it
>>53611304
My doctor's policy on opiates.
I've been using Linux Mint for a few months. I like it, but I want to try another distro.
Should I go for Ubuntu GNOME or jump straight to Debian Testing with GNOME?
Is Debian ill-advised for relatively new (but not brand new) users, or is it not so bad?
>>53611193
Works just fine brah
>>53611349
Where should I save an icon referenced in a .desktop file to
>>53611332
If you've been using Linux for a month you can go anywhere at this point. I used Ubuntu for like two weeks and jumped into Arch. The concept of newbie distros is a meme, just look at what they offer and jump in.
>>53611398
/usr/share/icons/.../
>>53611414
thanks
>>53611281
it can't. fortunately.
>>53611332
if you can read and enjoy learning debian is great.
What's the best "minimalist" WM/DE that's not something like i3 or awesome?
>>53611450
define "something like i3 or awesome"
>>53611450
windowmaker
>>53611450
Fluxbox?
>>53611469
Sorry, I meant tiling window managers. I don't like using the keyboard for everything I guess.
>>53611450
dwm
>>53611447
Would you recommend going Stable or Testing? It's not for a server, mind you. I keep hearing mixed opinions on this
>>53611450
just use xxterm -geometry 80x1+444+380
in xinit
>>53611492
But Awesome is pretty mouse-centric?
Anyway, try Openbox
>>53611516
testing is fine, i personally use unstable. make sure to read
https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian
and
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
>>53611517
hardcore
>>53611582
I actually might opt for this on my Pi
>>53611544
Is there a way to only focus on a window when you click on that box? I don't like how you just have to hover over it to focus on it. It makes it harder to tag windows.
>>53611582
its what i use when testing window managers. terminal makes it easy to call and kill the wm
This is fun: http://copy.sh/v86/
There's also Arch and Windows 1.
>>53611626
In Awesome? Probably, but no idea how.
>>53611493
This.
>>53611450
Only one choice: TWM
>>53611626
check options for "focus_follows_mouse"
never seen options without it.
>>53611493
What is the difference with ratpoison?
>>53611778
dwm is literally just some kilobytes big
the true masterrace wm for people who know C
wount recommend it for normal users users
>>53611861
How hard to I configure keybindings like in ratpoison? And how does it manages pop up windows like in web browsers?
Is it ok for a newbie to begin with a VM ? I don't miss too much things that a real setup or a dual-boot would offer ?
>>53612159
yeah, that's cool bro.
>>53612159
Yes. I do it each time I want to try a new distribution. But vm can create new kind of problems.
>>53612159
it's a good way to learn, your performance won't be the same but it's fine.
What are the cosequences of installing any common virus infected windoze application in wine?
Hey guys, I'm pretty new to Linux and immediately started using Kali Linux, I have pretty much learned most of the basic commands from school and some advanced commands from a few YouTube videos.
How can I learn more because honestly I don't know what I wan't to learn. I just want to learn everything but I don't really know what there is to learn.
Are there any websites where beginners can read more about this kind of stuff?
>>53612293
You're wine will be virused stupid frogposter. :^)
>>53612293
All consequences you would get on Windows. Wine is not an emulator.
>>53612314
See
>>53608986
And >>53608891
And read the debian handbook. Have fun and don't run kali as a daily driver.
>>53612293
Consequences will never be the same
>>53612331
>You're wine
anyone know what the screenshot program in xfce is called? pressing prntscrn doesn't start it
>>53612388
>images.jpg.jpg (5 KB, 125x125)
100% cancer
>>53612401
Use scrot, it works everywhere.
>>53612401
xfce-screenshooter
>>53612407
>scrot
memebloat
>>53612407
yeah but the xfce one has a neat prompt that lets me choose if I want to open the screenshot in GIMP
>>53612409
thanks
>>53612423
Why?
>>53612314
Why did you start with a pentesting distro? If you're new to Linux you should try Mint or something similar. That's literally the worst way to get acquainted with Linux.
>>53612431
Write a script.
>>53612442
scrot brings nothing new, everything is does can be done with import
>>53612401
import new.png
>>53612477
I didn't know import. I'm reading the man right now.
Hello, I have Windows, I would like to start using a distro as a secondary OS. I have problems with Ubuntu otherwise I would start there. What are the best options for me to start as little newbie?
>>53612451
He said he learned commands in school - he is very underage, you as well probably since you didn't notice that.
Underage people are not tolerated here at all.
>>53612512
Also read the convert manpage. Also part of IM and useful for piping screenshots to add effects and related shit.
>>53612533
What problems do you have with Ubuntu?
>>53612406
190% you're wine
>>53612551
I do postprocess with gimp.
>>53612572
I enjoying walking with both my left AND right foot.
>>53612539
I'm not "underaged" I'm 23 currently following a Network Administration course (currently on my 4th semester and we just started working with Linux my teacher told me to try out any linux distro at home so I could learn it on my own.)
>>53612602
It's great.
>>53612569
If your too new to understand this and you post frogs you should go back to /b/ before using other boards. Otherwise reddit might be more fitted for you.
what's a sans serif font that looks like this?
What would you recommend for a desktop?
>Ubuntu GNOME
>Kubuntu
>Debian Testing
>Debian Stable
>>53612343
Neh, not really.
Windows malware to make damage to a linux host via wine has to be designed to do it.
I'm not saying it's impossible.
But the probability of it happening is low.
Consider linux desktop marketshare, then multiply it by the percentage of people who use wine on their desktops.
That's not a big number of people.
Definately not big enough to make the whole thing worth it.
Then again most wine users use wine for either
>commercial software not available on linux, ie adobe creative suite, microsoft office
>videogames
None of which come with malware.
If you want solid numbers - debian popularity contest.
In the section "by installed" - 109886 reported cases of package "xserver-xorg" being installed, which should be a fair estimate of how many desktop users are there among those who installed the popularity contest package
In the same section, package "wine" was installed only - 21150
You get rough estimate of 20%.
>>53612657
Ubuntu MATE.
Until fedora 24 releases.
>>53612451
Could you explain me the difference? as I have stated above I am pretty new to Linux and Kali was the one that interested me the most because of the hacking tools etc.
For school I use openSUSE but I'm not very comfortable with it.
>>53612533
Go to Distrowatch.com and look up some distros. Usually the ones with the highest amount of hits per day (list on the right side of the homepage) are the newb friendly ones but I still recommend doing research.
>>53612559
Everything installs okay, but when I login it goes to a black screen and goes back again to the login screen. Even with virtual machines. I've heard it is an Nvidia problem, dunno if it is true.
>>53612657
Ubuntu Gnomeme/Kubuntu.
Ubuntu is debian testing, but desktop oriented.
>>53612673
You are not 23 you piece of shit - stop lying, everything you say yells " I AM UNDERAGE BAN ME ". If you are indeed above 18 you're a waste of space on technology board.
Try your luck on Facebook groups.
>>53612533
I guarantee that 99% of the issues you're having with Ubuntu are not with Ubuntu, rather with Unity, the default desktop environment.
I encourage you to take a look at the different flavors of Ubuntu and give them a spin. It's *the* distro for a newbie.
Mint is another popular option nowadays, it's an Ubuntu spinoff. It's been tagged as insecure because of a scandal that happened a month ago though
>>53612657
Ubangoo gnome with extensions of your choice.
>>53612657
Don't go kubuntu unless you're edgy and you're ready to click more than 50 times / day - yes to errors. ( I'm optimistic with number 50 and It's projected for low usage of computer )
>>53612700
>>53612672
>>53612729
>>53612732
So I wouldn't really gain anything by going Debian Testing instead of some flavor of Ubuntu?
Would I be hindered in some way with Stretch?
>>53612654
Uh, Sans Serif?
>>53612703
Dude. Lay off the kid, would ya?
Damn.
>>53612703
LOL, shut the fuck up you autistic piece of shit, just because English isn't my first language doesn't mean I'm under-aged. Just because you know more things about linux then me doesn't mean I'm under-aged you faggot.
I'm just trying to learn here
>>53612667
Installed xorg does not say it's a desktop system at all.
>>53612750
>So I wouldn't really gain anything by going Debian Testing instead of some flavor of Ubuntu?
Nope, not a single advantage. Maybe if you listen to archfags and their "muh bloat", but otherwise not really.
Main advantage of ubuntu are ppa's.
Main disadvantage of debian is the policy of non-free software. If you have hardware that requires binary blobs - it won't work.
>>53612753
Oh, I thought Sans Serif was a family of fonts and not a font itself from an extremely brief google search
>>53612777
>should
>fair
>estimate
Learn to read.
Just how big you imagine is the percentage of those 101k people who installed xorg but do not use it? thousand people?
>>53612785
How would I go about checking if my hardware requires non-free software? Just by trial and error?
I guess I'm going to go Ubuntu anyway. I can feel Stallman glaring at me
>>53612673
Kali is a custom-built distro that caters towards computer security professionals but it's mostly used by script kiddies that want to hack their neighbour's wifi.
It's not meant to cut your teeth on if you are trying to learn Linux. It's set up in a way that you are running everything as root by default, there is no user and then root, it's always root because most of the programs and pentesting tools require root access from my brief experience with Kali.
tl;dr get a basic distro like Linux Mint if you want to learn the basics of Linux as in how to perform basic functions in a Linux environment.
Learning Linux via Kali is like learning how to operate a firearm with a rocket propelled grenade launcher.
>>53612680
>>53612716
I will look into that, thank you
>>53612657
Debian sid.
>>53612765
It's not even about your english. I don't care about that nor inspected it.
It's the way you structure your ideas, the way you try to impersonate being mature - I don't know it's all obvious.
+ Look at your damn reaction, typical underage " OH YOU AUTIST ! "
>>53612853
Check out Ubuntu GNOME, Xubuntu or Kubuntu. Those are pretty neat.
>>53612872
The absolute mad man.
>>53612839
look it up or use vrms.
>>53612822
Your estimation is based on the assumption that servers wouldn't have xorg installed.
Which just doesn't have to be true.
>>53612853
Ubuntu MATE and Mint are kinda nice too, to add to >>53612880
It all depends on your taste. Take a look at screenshots or videos and decide for yourself. The only difference is the desktop environment, the underlying OS is the same. Or even better, boot them up in a virtual machine and take them for a spin to see which you feel more comfortable with.
>>53612839
Nvidia requires proprietary drivers in order to do anything useful besides displaying your desktop environment.
>>53612673
>>53612850
Kali is a distro meant to be run from a fucking usb stick/live cd
Because many penetration testing methods/tools have unnecessarily elaborate methods of upgrading their components and databases kali was build not to be updated/upgraded with built in commands but rather installed fresh with a newer image every now and then.
It's a single-purpose disposable distro.
Christ.
And stop recommending Linux Mint.
It's broken, insecure, backdoored and it's developers are fucking amateurs.
>>53612850
Ah alright thanks man, I will try it out today.
I just thought that Kali Linux was like any other distro's but with more tools for security etc (since I am following a Network Administration course I thought that it would be the best option for me) but yeah thanks for clearing my mind
>>53612887
>>53612887
Just how big you imagine is the percentage of those 101k people who installed xorg but do not use it as a desktop? thousand people?
>>53612872
Do you have shit break often? Or not really?
How's it like living on the edge?
Reminder that there's no need to install Kali to hack the planet:sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys ED444FF07D8D0BF6
and add:
deb http://http.kali.org/kali kali-rolling main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.kali.org/kali kali-rolling main contrib non-free
to /etc/apt/sources.list
>>53612938
20% or more
>>53612952
>How's it like living on the edge?
comfortable. you need to know how to fight dependency hell, other than that it's rather usable.
>>53612917
So what do you recommend? I am already using OpenSUSE on my laptop but I don't want to mess the whole thing up since I use it for school purposes.
I am currently on my PC I could actually just install OpenSUSE on my vm.
>>53612973
>you need to know how to fight dependency hell
Wat? Are you talking about the Debian as known as Debian?
>>53612973
Do you issue bug reports or something as well, or do you just use Sid because you like current stuff?
>>53612993
>Are you talking about the Debian as known as Debian?
yes, in unstable there are dependency issues sometimes that you need to resolve.
>>53613000
i do if i can find some that have not been issued before. I'm too slow most of the time.
>>53612879
First of what ideas have I stated in my previous posts? I only asked a few questions and based to that you told me I was a underage waste of space on technology board.
But whatever I'm not going to waste my time on you, I mean what the fuck do I care about your opinion, what the fuck do I care that you call me underage. You're nothing to me. Enjoy your miserable life.
>>53612968
100220 reported cases of gimp installed
96362 reported cases of libreoffice-common installed
>>53613092
Wait, what, why does everyone and their mothers install gimp?
>>53613137
Might be installed by default on some distros...
So I'm a newbie to Debian and I've been reading the DontBreakDebian page
As long as I don't install anything without apt-get, I should be fine, right?
That should be easy to abide by. I just hope I don't come across some .deb package that isn't in the official repos that I really need
>>53613137
it's literally one of those "one tool that does everything albeit with questionable quallity"
>>53612879
Your trolling is obnoxious. You come here harassing people nad making new users leave, that behaviour is not proper of this thread.
>>53612682
>I've heard it is an Nvidia problem, dunno if it is true.
https://vxlabs.com/tag/gpu-manager/
>>53613137
because it's useful
>>53613170
I thought we were talking about Debian, and no, I don't think it comes as a default.
>>53613173
pretty much. also make sure to settle on using either aptitude or apt-get very early and stick to it.
>>53613191
I suspected not everyone would need image manipulation software and Office would be more common.
>>53613215
What's the difference and based on what should I pick either?
>>53613180
Damn I was in the friendly thread my bad - having too many tabs open, got lost.
>>53613244
I personally like aptitude better because of the search function (it's different to apt-cache search).
here's the wiki page:
https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
>>53613215
wait
when I use apt install or apt update, that's not the same thing as apt-get and aptitude ?
>>53613236
Most people really don't need anything more than than a word processor, in which case might as well use some version of *TeX or AbiWord or the like
How well does Steam work in Debian Testing? Anyone have any experience with that?
>>53613377
I don't know too many people who actually do that though.
Also, Office could be in a default install.
>>53613471
It is the quite the mark of a pedantic individual to answer my question with an image that implies I'm a fanboy of Steam when I just asked how it works
But by all means keep being unhelpful and meme-ing all over. It's not like this is a "friendly" thread or anything.
>>53613399
Be careful, it could delete everything in your home dir.
>>53613363
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageManagement
as i understood it apt install is the same as apt-get install but not the same as aptitude install.
>>53613399
steam usually works fine but it's full of ugly hacks and proprietary DRM ridden crap.
>>53613526
This was fixed in a week. Nice meme though, I laughed when I got wind of it
>>53613520
this, trolls btfo
>>53613552
Thing is it still could do it, better hope no one fucks up the scripts again.
Or secure it by making a new user for it.
>>53613552
Here, have another laugh: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac#diff-3fbb47e318cd8802bd325e7da9aaabe8L351
(careful, this commit got shitloads of comments)
>>53613552
>fixed in a week
Within a week of the issue being opened on Github, yes. The offending code was added over a year before that, and the developer knew it was problematic.
