Can somebody explain what exactly is so bad about Ubuntu? Serious question, I never bothered looking into it before, but now that I installed it in a VM I am actually extremely impressed
Why's it considered a botnet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
>>53604601
Everything is botnet unless is Stallman approved
>>53604616
U r botnet
>>53604621
Stallman didnt approve your momma
>>53604609
It's outdated, next version of ubuntu is free of amazon's botnet.
>>53604609
This is the same guy that refuses to use a browser.
Instead he has a script that emails him websites from an anonymized computer, which he then reads in an editor as plaintext
>>53604648
I don't see anything wrong with that.
>>53604648
Respect the mentally disabled please
Right, so is it only about the Dash-online-search, or is there more spying going on?
>>53604648
>Instead he has a script that emails him websites from an anonymized computer, which he then reads in an editor as plaintext
holy fuck
>>53604700
Pretty much yeah. The non-free issues with ubuntu are:
Amazon searching via dash - enabled by default
Tools to install proprietary blobs and non-free software are used for convenience (nvidia/amd propietary driver installers, flash installer, nonfree codecs)
the problem with ubuntu is that some people doesn't like it and they get extremely butthurt when other people disregard their opinions.
>it's fucking linux. you can do almost anything
>>53604648
You wouldn't happen to have a copy of this?
For science.
The package management system is fucking stupid
Non-free drivers installed by default.
Also unity is crap. Gnome master race. extensions.gnome.org
>>53604648
>this(autism);
>>53605008
>>53604648
>>53604984
It's a bit more nuanced than that
https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
>I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (using konqueror, which won't fetch from other sites in such a situation).
I occasionally also browse unrelated sites using IceCat via Tor. Except for rare cases, I do not identify myself to them. I think that is enough to prevent my browsing from being connected with me.
Honestly at this point even though gentoo is a meme it's easily the best distro you could use
Openrc and portage are great
>>53604609
Look at this video and you will see why no version of Linux has been usable by the average person until Ubuntu. All other versions of Linux has been total garbage.
>>53605052
>Linux has been usable by the average person until Ubuntu
It's almost like linux wasn't made for the average person and is more of a specialized tool for people that need it
>>53605014
>KDE kan do it
top kek
>>53604601
>>53604642
>>53604621
>>53604766
>>53604601
What's bad about Ubuntu is that it's easy to use, has one of the largest selection of software, and just works out of the box.
It's a distro made for ease of use and functionality. Arch fags can't handle that
>>53605025
>https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
>I read a book about Java, and found it an elegant further development from C. But I have never used it. I did write some code in Java once, but the code was in C and Lisp (I simply happened to be in Java at the time).
>>53604601
I didn't like it because it's designed "for everyone" so it has to take every countries copyright etc laws into account. As such, it is missing like every codec, driver, and piece of software so as not to offend anyone or any country...
>>53604601
Ubuntu is amazon garbage until next update. Derivatives are okay, but apt is a pretty bad package manager dnf and pacman are a lot better
>>53605185
>apt is a pretty bad package manager
source: my behind
>>53605163
> I do not post on 4chan. I have nothing against it, and I have occasionally answered questions for interviews for 4chan, but any posting there that says it is by me is by an impostor.
>>53605157
this.
Every fucking gaystro if linux is so fucking fragmented. After install if my wifi works I have to google how to install what ever program via command line if its available for that given gaystro. Fucking 2016 I have to google how to install an application. Ubuntu I has my web development stack up in 45 minutes.
>>53605188
Pacman is better in every possible way.
Linux for the human race
>>53605212
source: my behind
>>53604601
I'd probably give it no shit apart from not really liking it if it did away with Unity.
Snowflakes and hipsters "use" Linux to pretend to be superior. Ubuntu / ease of use = threat to my secret club
>>53604601
I don't really see why should I install Ubuntu if I can simply go for Debian instead. I don't need Unity, and I don't need amazon shit etc. either
>>53605014
That's Unity, moron.
>>53605387
Unity uses the same settings panel
Source: gnome3 user
>>53604609
>most of these distros have ethical problems
Freetard aversion to non-free software is hilarious.
#1
Default is unity
Unity has lens
There is a history of noobs not being able to disable it
There is more history if it fucking your system if you disable it
lens uploads similar data to windows 10
more importantly, making a menu system that has these kind of dependencies makes me rage
Most of this is fixed, but you need to know to look for it and click that magic button that turns it off
#2
Installing something outside of apt-get is a fucking cluster. Easy to do and then your package system is borked. Yes, if RTM you will be fine
#3
Some ties in the system are getting suspect. Their recent deal with M$, corresponds with M$ move to MSSQL to linux. M$ is trying to take on oracle and canonical has a rich history of fucking with any other database that isn't MySQL.
>>53605533
>Installing something outside of apt-get is a fucking cluster. Easy to do and then your package system is borked. Yes, if RTM you will be fine
Not really
Using the GUI to install a .deb file is quite normal
If you want to use dpkg, you just need to fix the dependencies with apt-get install -f
>>53605552
didn't mention the GUI
install from source an intermediate package and tell me how your apt-get install -f works after anything in the chain gets updated
>>53605761
why would you even install from source
ever
>>53605792
when you have a need. Sorry you haven't needed to do something with your computer that didn't involve a web browser
>>53605813
>>53605829
install gentoo if you want to be 1337 haxers and install from source
>>53605842
move onto >>>/b/ if you think that is the case.
>>53605761
when installing from source i just put everything somewhere in /home/user/bin, compile and run from there, theres no need to put it in database to fuck it up even more than it is, optionally i move binaries to /opt by hand if it requires to be system available for some reason
>>53605933
I do the same thing (now), my comment was that your package manager shouldn't refuse to run if you do otherwise.
>>53605933
you are doing it wrong anon, that's a folder used by automated scripts, if you compile and copy the binaries yourself you should be using
/usr/local/bin
>>53604642
then why is it still there on the beta live cds?
>>53604601
Because unity is shit,
Also install mint its just a better version of ubuntu
>>53606044
ive always wondered, for example program has ninary and some other files and shit, /bin is for binaries, where does all other shit go? considering program wont work without them
>>53606074
they generally go in /bin as well, inside those bunch of folders.
>>53604766
>Amazon searching via dash - enabled by default
Not in 16.04. Also, there's literally a button to turn it off. If you're that paranoid, there's FixUbuntu.
>Tools to install proprietary blobs and non-free software are used for convenience (nvidia/amd propietary driver installers, flash installer, nonfree codecs)
That can be done on any Linux distro. Nice try.
>>53605008
>Non-free drivers installed by default.
You're thinking Mint, kiddo. You have to install the non-free stuff if you want it in Ubuntu. Good try though kid, I'm impressed.
What I've gathered from this thread is that people hate Ubuntu because they're clinically retarded, is that correct?
>>53606347
It's like they wants a destro that just Start>TuxRacer>ShutDown
>>53604609
The browser thing and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umQL37AC_YM
I will never listen to this guy...
>>53604601
Not |_337 enough
Unity is shit, but the other flavors are fine. I'm using Ubuntu Gnome, actually.
>>53606871
>Stallman doesn't know how to install an operating system
>He still insist on calling it GNU/Linux even though he's never even fucking installed it himself
Wew lad.
>>53604601
Autistic Freetards who want top-to-bottom minimalist FOSS at the expense of usability.
>>53605025
>aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with.
I wonder what porn RMS is into.
Been using ubuntu server for a while in command line, seems alright even when installing and compiling from source. I do have a friend that keeps bugging me with arch, but his con files fucked up once during a presentation, I think he is pretty retarded.
>>53605813
dumb jewposter
>>53606993
Also, in his ubuntu vid, he said that for the cause ease of convenience they include prop. software and this help them to hide spyware on the computer. But If he did not install his own OS (for ease of convenience), how do he know, that the person who installed his system would never install spyware or anything on his computer before giving it to him...
>>53607130
CP no doubt about it, he even defended it once.
Why should anyone use tor for legal stuff?
No reasons.
>>53606355
>You have to install the non-free stuff if you want it in Ubuntu
Retard, the non-free package in ubuntu is just for flash/java/other plugins. It comes with plenty of non-free drivers by default for convenience. Do some research before calling others kid, kid.
>>53607238
You have to opt in to the proprietary extras, it isn't Mint.
>>53607256
I'm not so sure. I think his defence of CP stems from his extreme ideological position rather than any kiddy-fiddling tendencies. He probably users tor just so MIT doesn't find out he watches anime.
>>53605014
He's right...
>>53604609
>>53606871
>that fucking voice
i thought he would at least sound like an old manly dude but jesus
>>53610293
I've never heard his voice until now. I agree, it is horrible
>>53604601
Everyone knows its the double nigger os
>>53610293
He's jewish, give him a break.
>>53605387
Plenty of retardation in one single post, concentrated
Linux for retards made of bloat and botnet.
>>53604601
Unity isn't as bad as when they first switched from gnome 2. The app drawer/selector is unintuitive and it sucks. You can't really customize it much either.
Still better than Gnome 3 though.
>>53606355
Pretty sure Ubuntu has some drivers that aren't libre. I've had to go through some hoops to get the same drivers on other distros.
>>53604609
I love this guy but this is just ridiculous. It's not like they're forcing you to install non-free software. Also I doubt that you >>53604609 actually use a completely free distro.
Windows is used mostly by computer illiterate retards and /v/ spillage. Extracting windows from the spyware has become impossible. /g/'s pathetic windows user base first tried to deny the existence of all the spywares. When they are presented with valid proofs they resort to "nothing to hide" jokes. I wonder why they want their phone, PC locked. I wonder how many of them have their facebook/g+/twitter wall/profile public.
Currently windows is the most exploit ridden security nightmare even though the source is closed. Windows is the most inefficient, crash prone and exploit vulnerable consumer-grade OS in the history.
>>53604601
Ubuntu has an amazon bot but it could be removed. Furthermore the next release is not going to have this spyware any more. Currently it effects the vanilla unity desktop.
>>53606057
Because it's a beta? They're worrying about adding code to meet a deadline not remove code which takes 1/3 the time.
Ubuntu Mate is actually very good. Kubuntu if you want something with more eye candy.
>>53605912
Not him but how is that not the case. Making yourself seem leet is as pretentious as girls taking duck face photos on instagram.
