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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --
>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation

>For the newfags that keep replying to the "Belgian shitposter"
http://pastebin.com/rhEPFtRj

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous Thread:
>>53556070
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How legit is the T50RP Mk3 + SRH1540 pads?
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Thinking of selling my se535 to a friend for $400 and buying a different but similar sounding iem.
What should I get in the similar price range that has removable cables?
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>>53582470
>this SOB is wearing expensive headphones....
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>>53583050
AMAZEBALLS zeos pretty much sold a lot of his headphones even his mad dogs just because they T50RP are that good.
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>>53583050
They're really good. They replaced my HE560s and that's saying a lot. I still kept my Sennheiser Momentums because they are more portable but the T50RP are incredible.
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>>53583050
Pretty great i would say. My friend let me try his and i just sat there for an hour wondering why i bought DT990s. These were so clear to my ears. I learned the meaning of hi-fi by listening to the MK.III
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>>53582470
Is that El chapulin? What headphones are those?

>>53583050
Get them, you won't regret them. They get more listening time these days than my Stax.
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>8 posts
>5 IPs
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I bought these to increase comfort on my xpt100s. i don't mean to brag but after wearing them for around two weeks I do believe I've ended the headphone game. Hopefully these will ensure that.

http://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-Hybrid-Memory-Foam-Earpad/dp/B00ZGGG3KY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

bought those piston 3 as well to see the hubbub. we'll see when they come in if Amazon can be a trusted seller of Chinese goods
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>>53584113
Hard Shillong on those mk3s
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Can someone explain the point of open-back headphones?

Their sound quality is completely ruined if there's any background noise at all, so their only use case is when you are sitting in a completely quiet room by yourself. But they still aren't as good for that case as an actual speaker system in the room would be.

t. going to return my k702s
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HD800S or STAX L-700? More people seem to vote for the former but I would like to hear more opinions.
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>>53584724
STAX mafia consider L700 to be bad.
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>>53584728
What's STAX mafia?
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>>53584724
HD800S. It also saves you the trouble of getting an electrostat amp.
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>>53584724
If it has to be strictly between the two of them then the HD800S. Lambdas compete with the likes of HD600 or HD650... The HD800S is in an entirely different level.
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>>53584724
HD 800S if I were you. Answer the questions asked from you in the last thread regard why those two.

>>53584783
What a dumb statement.
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>>53584503
>I'm retarded and I don't know what I'm saying.

Why would you ask us to explain something then in literally the next sentence point out that you're too ignorant to listen to anybody you're asking for advice anyway?
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>>53584271
>buys the headphone where one of the only advantages is that it comes with two pairs of great pads

>BUYS ANOTHER NEARLY IDENTICAL PAIR

FOKIN EL ANON
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>>53585280
Hybrid pads are not nearly identical to Pleather.
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>>53585311
hybrids are pleather pads with a flat layer of velour
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>>53585320
And breathable pleather on the inside. Keeps the seal, gets rid of the heat issues.
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>>53584724
Answer why those two models only if you're going to keep on trolling for answers.

>>53584728
Who cares.

>>53584758
A bunch of Stax lover folks who tend to be more into the DIY side of headphones, building amplifiers and such, concentrated on Head-Case forums.
Generally aren't averse to spending money on audio, Stax headphones and exotic Gilmore designs aren't cheap.
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>>53585368
>Who cares.
People looking at buying STAX because they know what they're talking about when it comes to STAX.
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>>53585013
Quoted the wrong one. I meant this post >>53584810 with the dumb statement.
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>It is subtle. I wasn't expecting it to work that way at all
The modder quite clearly demonstrated its performance with measurements. Of course it works if you copy the design well.
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>>53585781
As a reply to >>53576111
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>Budget
£200-250
>Location
UK
>Source
iPhone
>Preferred type of headphone
Around head + wireless. On ear not in ear.
>Comfort level
Going to be exercising so comfortable if possible.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Rock I guess but doesn't matter
>Past headphones
Momentum. Generally happy with sound but a bit too bassy
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>Budget
35-50
>Location
UK
>Source
PC and phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Any really, just as long as the quality is good
>Open or closed
depends on the quality of the music
>Comfort level
high
>Preferred tonal balance
I usually listen to 80s 90s music and play some games
>Preferred music
Pop rock, classic
>Past headphones
Takstar 2050, had to give these away to my family, since i was visiting, and my current ones are cheap as fuck Sennheiser HD201
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>>53585382
>they know what they're talking about when it comes to STAX.
The alternate post was "Stop caring about what those dodos think". They have their own hive mind and cult associated with them, and spout off plenty of stupid stuff from time to time.
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Beyerdynamics makes the best Headphones
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>>53586343
>x brand is the best and better than y brand!
Fucking stupid. Everyone has their fair share of shit headphones and equipment.
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>>53586395
Thats true
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>>53584113
Wat do to see these stats.
Always forget to ask.
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>>53586343
> undetachable cable
> monster bass: snob edition
> terribly uncomfortable after some time due to pads becoming flat
Wew lad
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>>53586461
If you dont have true german Ears you will become weak
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Hi, tell me about Jabra Revo
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>>53586343
>Beyerdynamics
DT880 Pro>Premium. Prove me wrong.

Premiums don't have replacement leather headband parts.
http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/shop/kopfpolster.html

>>53586461
You can bend the Pros headband if it clamps.
Use common sense and bend it.
Is it clampy + Bend it = Profit.
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best headphones for youtube under $250
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>>53586546
> pads become flat
> "use common sense and bend the headband"
Do all Beyer customers have your same level of reading comprehension?
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>>53586620
>for youtube
what
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>>53586637
>terribly uncomfortable
I replied to this. Because I thought that you were talking about clamp.
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>>53582470
someone using the german maestro gmp 8.350?
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>Budget
150$ could stretch a bit if needed.
>Location
Sweden
>Source
On-board audio.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Very comfy, will be wearing for long periods of time.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Mostly metal, but listen to a little bit of everything.
>Past headphones
hi2050. m50
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>>53586688
HD 558
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>>53586688
558
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>>53586688
SHP9500's are great for music that include guitars and pretty much all around everything else too.
Also max-comfy.
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>>53586648
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube
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>>53586704
overpriced due to hype
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>>53586712
that's like saying "what are the best headphones to use on a computer"
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>>53586713
>due to hype
Apparently there is a reason for the hype then.
The hype wasnt because of their price but instead the sound.
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>>53582470
So last night I was half drunk and an anon convinced me that the akg k612's are better than the 702's. I recently bought the 702's for £130 and the k612's were only £95, I plan on selling the 702's on ebay for at least £100.

I don't need a detachable cable and I prefer the look of the k612 style wise.

Did I fuck up?
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>>53586732
nah
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>>53586202
I was going to recommend the takstar 2050's lol.

Buy them again, You aren't beating them for less than £50, ever. They're fantastic for the price.
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>>53586688
>>53586699
>>53586703
>HD558
>6.3mm/1/4" plug with 3.5mm/1/8" adapter
>on-board audio
lmao enjoy your adapter
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>>53586732
Yes. Learn to read graphs, instead of taking random people'a recommendations so easily. If you prefer the K612's look, it's a different matter, but it doesn't sound better thna K702.
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>>53586782
There's nothing wrong with an adapter.
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>>53586847
I don't really care if they sound better, I just want them to sound roughly the same as I much prefer the design.

I did do some research on them before buying but I was drunk like I said. Worst case scenario I send them back and lose a few quid, it will be interesting to test them at least.
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>>53586843
Did you sell your second best headphones?
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>>53586921
I just cancelled the order, i'll look into the k612's more and decide if I still want them More opinions on them vs the 702's would be appreciated lads.
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>>53585368
More like STAX shills. They're just as retarded as Purrin & co from the other dire.
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>>53587128
>speed
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>Budget
~$50 flexible
>Location
U.S.
>Source
Smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
Either in-ear buds or over-ear phones
>Open or closed
Closed, I listen a lot in public.
>Comfort level
Medium-High
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral to a little heavy on the bass end
>Preferred music
Rock, Metal, Alternative, some rap
>Past headphones
Xaomi Ear Piston 2's. The right earbud shit out on me last night in the middle of a 15 hour ride.
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>>53587151
Soundmagic E10
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>>53587151
LG Quadbeat 3
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>Budget
150€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Onboard/Soundcard
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
None
>Preferred music
Rock, Metal, Punk
>Past headphones
Razer Kraken 5.1, Xiaomi Piston
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>>53587215
Thanks! Seems like a perfect match.
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>>53587273
DT 770 80 Ohm
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>>53587323
Thanks!
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>>53587139
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>>53587077
You don't need opinions, you need to look at graphs. Google Goldenears K612 and Goldenears K702. K612 has the same bass roll-off as the K702, if not slightly harsher, but K702 is flatter, then better, than K612 from 80 Hz up to 1.5 kHz, which is the region where most things happen in music. K702 has a peak around 2-2.5 kHz, while the K612 has a peak around 3 kHz.
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What earphones can I get for a cheap price <£15 that don't break in a month?

I've broken 4 pairs in 3 months, including 2 pairs of the Samsung ones that come with your phone, and the worst thing I've done to them is keep them in my pocket for 1-2 hours.
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>>53587593
I'm fairly new to this whole thing and I understood what you meant apart from the peak part, explain please.
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i want to buy a headphone for about 200 euros
so what /g/ advises me ?
is pic related good ?
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From the new Tyll shill article. I always see these wireless headphones as a missed opportunity. You stuff in a circuit board with a Bluetooth receiver, DAC and amplifier but don't include any DSP in it. The response looks fairly poor(it's an on ear) but they could've fixed it by including some simple signal processing. Shouldn't be that costly either. New Parrot Zik did something like that and I remember Harman manufacturing a headphone or two with DSP. Then there are some others like Beats which just mess up the natural response of the driver even more by poor use of DSP. You could achieve virtually any kind of response using DSP properly in headphones that can be used wirelessly. I see no reason not to do it.
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>>53587909
It doesn't mean much. Headphones can be subject to small manufacturing differences or be worn down from usage.

The problem comparing peaks directly is that the target in the graphs is different. You have to make little adjustments here and there.
K701/702 can be either a warm and midbassy boosted headphone or bass light with emphasized treble depending on whose graph you pick.
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>Budget
up to 300 euros
>Location
working on a ship, sailing in germany, austria, hungary, netherlands, belgium...
>Source
phone, i'm weraing them in public
>Preferred type of headphone
in ear maybe, but i need really small buds, over ear
>Open or closed
i dont know what does this mean
>Comfort level
comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
i dont know much about technology
>Preferred music
niggabass, rock, techno
>Past headphones
some AKGs, i broke them so i need a good built
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>>53588059
>bose
>good
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If Beats By Dr. Dre are garbage, then why do so many people own them?
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>>53587909
By peak I meant the frequency point the headphone emphasizes. Both K702 and K612 emphasize mid-high frequencies, for example.

>>53588103
> K702
> boost mid-bass, warm
Where exactly did you look? As far as I know, K702 is one of the few open heapdhones that doesn't boost mid-low frequencies according to most graphs.
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>>53588230
They're garbage because you're paying for their advertising costs rather than the headphone itself. That's why everyone knows about them, meanwhile no one has any idea what Beyerdynamic is.
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>>53588256
> meanwhile the Beyercuck ignores that the Beats Solo 2 are much better than any closed headphone his precious german brand ever produced
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>>53588269
Sennheiser HD 429 pwns Beats Solo 2.

Beats weren't as bad as I thought, but they weren't as good as my Senns. And beats are overpriced.
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>>53588330
Ok Franz.
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>>53586546
> Pro > Premium
If loose bass, piercing highs and underwhelming mids is what you're looking for and if you can't afford the 600 ohm version, yes, you're right.
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>>53588060
LG and Bose do this as well. It is fairly commonplace with ANC.
To a certain extent, I can barely be bothered to give a shit here. I can do it myself.
This doesn't have to be done by DSP only either.

>>53588253
Harman's various measurements, Rin Choi's headphone measurements, Tyll's charts.

Goldenears plots are scattered around neutral to bass light/bright.
Listen Inc.'s K701 measurement is neutral.
Speakerphone found a Q701 with a big treble spike and broad lower range lift.
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>>53588502
>To a certain extent, I can barely be bothered to give a shit here. I can do it myself.
Yeah these are not products for myself either as I use an equalizer always with my stuff. It's just that many people don't nor do they have any idea how to effectively use one. It would be a simple thing to add into the device to make it sound more pleasing, especially in headphones like on-ears which generally seem to be quite bad in terms of the response.
>This doesn't have to be done by DSP only either.
True.
>Listen Inc.'s K701 measurement is neutral.
Where do I find these? Are they available publicly without a pay wall?
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>>53588502
Goldenears measurements are the most reliable imo, even though they might be affected by bad seal in the case of the K702, as the sides' mismatch may suggest. Infact according to most other sources the sub-bass on the K702 doesn't roll-off so steeply and the 2 kHz peak is less harsh. Also most other sources don't show such an eveident mismatch.
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>>53586343
>Bought AK T8ie
>Wew this sounds good
>Recorded cases of people exchanging their units 2-4 times in a span of 6 months
>Broke my unit 2 weeks in
>Made in Germany

Fucking hell.
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>>53588608
You can find it in Mega link on the wiki, the Correlation of Distortion Audibility and Listerner Preference or something like that.

So not really available legitimately. You don't have to pay for it though.
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>>53583050
A very good deal. I bought a pair and modded them a little yesterday. The amount of detail I'm getting out of these is amazing for what I paid. Tbh they sound pretty good without modding but it's definitely beneficial.
I used blu tac, felt, cotton, and hm5 pads (which I really had to stretch, but fit on without ripping).
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>>53588059
They aren't terrible (like bose used to be) but those are over priced. They are pretty much less bassy beats.
Look at audio technica or vmoda.
If you are traveling then definitely go with vmoda. They are tanks.
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Want to build gaming and recording PC not sure what is overkill and what will just get the job done. Kinda at a loss
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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-blue-box-sennheiser-exclusive-grab-bag/talk

1 day left, is $30 it even worth it for the CX1.0 as disposable IEMs? Knowing my luck that's all I get after all.
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>>53588059
Bose are horrible. Pick a AKG K271/272 or a Beyer DT770 80 ohm.
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How hard are the MK3 to drive im assuming my e07k won't be able to drive them
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>>53589310
When people call a headphone as hard-to-drive, you should always assume that it can be driven easily by every simple amp. Audiophiles generally underestimate the power output of amps. E07 is ok.
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>Budget
$300 - $500 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
Note 5
>Preferred type of headphone
Iem
>Comfort level
Very high
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Doesn't really matter, I listen to everything
>Past headphones
M50x, se535, se425
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>>53583050
They are legit. Without a doubt TOTL except in build and comfort. They are truly world class.
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>>53583050
I don't know if you are aware of what planars are but these are some of the best planar magnetic drivers available, in terms of sound quality. They are very neutral so if you dislike neutral headphones this isn't for you. These should be more than 5 times the price, if only they came with good pads, then they'd be killers.
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>>53585280
The hybrids are supposed to have velour touching your ears and perforated pleather on the inside walls for breath-ability and pleather on the outside for to maintain a seal. or so that was the sales pitch.

and since they're a designed to use the hm5 pads i figured their sound wouldn't be affected much by the new pads as opposed to say the m40x which many people do buy pads for because they're uncomfortable
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>>53589310
If I can drive them with an E6 you'll be fine.
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>>53583050
They're very good product. Only change pad if you feel it's uncomfortable.
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>>53589310
Most headphone amp can drive it. No need for expensive unit. Relatively low nominal impedance.
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>>53588144
>sailing in hungary, austria
What?
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Probably stupid question:
I own a HD201 and the sound is pure trash without an "audio enhancer" software like pic related, I can barely even hear anything and it keeps me from leaving wangblows. Do I only need a good quality headphone to no longer hear benefits from this or is an amp necessary too?

>Budget
200€
>Location
France
>Source
PC On-board
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Medium, as long as I can wear it h24/7 without it hurting my ears
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm or neutral
>Preferred music
Anything from classic, metal, EDM/*step, etc
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD201 which I'm not happy with (hurt my ears without additional ear pads, basses are horrible without proper equalization)
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>>53589310
Should be fine but they aren't very sensitive. IF measured about 0.2 Vrms needed to 90 dB SPL for the T40RP which Fostex reports to have the same sensitivity.
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>>53590608
That's more sensitive than the HD600.
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>>53590627
Sharp lad. Not by much though.
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>Budget
£200-300
>Location
UK
>Source
phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Around neck or clip on. No in-ear, no earbuds
>Comfort level
Going to be exercising so comfortable if possible.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Rock
>Past headphones
Momentum. Generally happy with sound but a bit too bassy
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>>53590365
K553 or K550

>>53591174
Audio-Technica ATH-EW9, its discontinued but still very available on ebay
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>>53582470
daily I-can't-fucking-decide-please-help
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>>53592102
You should consider the K702 instead of the K612 and you should consider the DT880 600 ohm instead of the 250 ohm.
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>>53592149
>K702
>DT880 600 ohm
these cost almost twice as much as the 612 and 250 ohm for me, even with amazon
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>>53592161
Oh well, in that case choose the cheapest one between K612 and DT880 250 Ohm. DT880 has better bass, whereas K612 has better mids, they're both a bit harsh in the treble. They can be considered fairly neutral headphones, despite not being very balanced imo.
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KZ sd3 or edr2

I need "disposable" class IEMs that don't sound like trash or look like trash.
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Can someone link me to the headphone buying pastebin?
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>>53592518
Fiio E10K works great with AKG open products.
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>>53592102
Have you considered the Fostex T50RP Mk.3?
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>>53592563
He wants open. Keep that shit away.
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>>53592553
Are you sure? A couple of people have strongly steered me to the O2.
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>>53592627
O2 is great, but you don't need something as powerful as that to drive the Q701. Fiio E10K is a cheap and efficient amp/combo.
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>>53590627
it uses around the same voltage but its impedance is 6 times lower. So the fostex is gonna use about 6x more power.
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>Ordered Mar 17
>Arriving Mar 25 - Mar 31
>not shipped yet
do people even get mail on a stat holiday

i want my headphones already
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>>53582470

people at my work swear by the Sony MDRV6 headphones but I never see Sony mentioned in these threads. What does /hpg/ thing of Sony headphones specifically these?

I'm not an audiophile, I just need some new headphones because I broke mine yesterday.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ
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>>53592161
I'd probably go for the K612 then, at least you know you don't have the inferior version of a model.

Or you could just spend $40 extra over the DT880 250 to get the K702 so you don't have to worry about your cheap cable breaking and making the rest of your headphones useless.

By amazon, are you talking about .com or .ca
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>>53592716
>http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ
I remember those type of material on the earpads on some other sony headphone and they're shit. It doesn't make a good seal and they feel so thin so it'd probably wear out and tear eventually.

But it's only $90 so eh, the other competitor at that price range is probably the ATH M-series, and their joints are just as bad. I'd probably spend $10-$20 more for the AKG K240 MkII instead (I only demo'd those in store though, nothing fancy just that they're open so they feel more comfortable outside the lack of noise isolation).
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>>53592848
go for the K240 MKII
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>>53592848
>>53592891
thanks I'll check these out.
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>>53592102
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones
Just wait for the K7XX to drop again.

$200 for a pretty good value, if only just for the memory foam pads.
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The K240 MK II weight 8.5 ounces and the ATH-M50x weight 2.2lbs. How is there that much difference in weight?
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>>53593258
The ATHs do seem to be bulky with more parts, particularly those joints that let them fold inwards and the solid headband. Compare that to AKG's style with their headbands.

The ATHs seem to clamp on pretty strong so you don't really notice the weight, sort of. I'd imagine the ATH headphones would feel like hell during summer though.
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>>53593258
the m50 weighs like 11oz. are you looking at amazon weights and dimensions? they're super inconsistent and sometimes it includes the entire box and not just the headphones and sometimes it just weighs the headphones.
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>>53592102
just flip a fucking coin, you'll just keep asking this

there's no absolute answer if you don't know if you want more bass
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>>53592627
O2 is all around better as an amplifier. However this difference might not be noticeable in any way. Depends on how much you want to spend really. O2 has much more power and its more silent.
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Anyone else like modding just for shits and giggles?
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>>53594101
Grados are pain and suffering.
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>>53592102
Go to a store, test them out. Figure what works best for you, pick that pair. Not that hard really.

Last time I needed a pair of headphones I wen't to the store, spent a good hour and a hald testing out different pairs with a couple of different songs that I'm really familiar with and then made the decision
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>>53595229
I really hope you bought them at that store, because if not you're a bad person
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What does /g/ think of Klipsch? Just bought a pair of R6 buds f9r $60. Did I fuck up?
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>>53595643
Yes I did, because I'm not a bad person

A little off topic, but fuck I hate people who go to a store to try instruments (and other gear) and then order those for 10-20 euros less from thomann. I mean, if everyone keeps doing that, soon there's not going to be stores like that, or at least their selections will get smaller and smaller
Support your local stores /g/
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>>53592716
V6 is built like a fucking tank, the only eak point it the pads and you can replace those once the stock ones get ruined by Auray Sheep Skin pads, which not only seal much better, but are also much more comfortable.
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Where does /hpg/ download their flac?

How do I know I'm not just downloading flac files that someone just converted from mp3 files as a trick. I know one of you faggots do this and get a thrill from the comments applauding the music.
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Guys have any experience with the akg k92, k72, or k52?
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>>53596497
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Budget-100 bucks or less
Source-MP3 player or computer (anything really)
Requirements for Isolation-No Isolation required
Preferred Type of Headphone-Earbuds
Preferred tonal balance-No idea, good bass I guess.
Past headphones-Sony MDR-E828LP Fontopia & JVC HA-EB75
Preferred Music-Chiptune soundtracks (NES, TurboGrafx-16, Genesis, Etc.)
Location-Murrica

The Sony MDR-E828LP Fontopia headphones were my shit for about a decade, however, they've been long since discontinued and the eBay scalpers have been raising their prices on what little stock there is left, and Sony's current replacements (forget the model #) completely suck. On top of that, the right-side of my most recent pair was fried by static electricity. I've got a new pair coming in the mail, but I know I'll eventually need to move on to something new and have no desire to keep lining JewBay seller's pockets.

I'm not very technical in this field, but there was just something indescribable about them that sounded so amazing compared to other cheap earbuds of the time, especially when listening to chiptune music. It might have something to do with the design of the speaker holes in pic-related- http://www.soomal.com/images/doc/20100701/00006155_01.jpg,
-I've never seen any other pair of earbuds designed like that.

I don't want in-ear monitors. I could never get used to the inner-ear based buds, they feel and sound awful especially when I try to go running, that weird squishy pressure "sound" (not sure how to describe it) feels horrible and don't need too much isolation, mostly due to my job.
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>Budget
<$100
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Either or
>Comfort level
Pretty Comfortable I guess but I don't mind buying aftermarket pads
>Preferred tonal balance
Low-Mids and Bass
>Preferred music
Grindcore, Sludge, Death metal, math rock (clean guitars),
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681 Evo

Durability and longevity are a concern too, especially with jacks and cords.

I was just going to get a pair of HD668B's but I'm reading that the low mids suck on them. Also interested in picking up babby's first headphone amp.
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I inherited a Bose 161 speaker set from my grandpa and his amp was a POS so I got a JBL ESC200 for $25 so I could hook up to my PC via RCA->3.5mm and I can tell these need a subwoofer.

What's a good desktop sub to pair with these?
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>>53596756
Really nice

But imho too flat or something
Maybe its the shit ear pads
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I can honestly say, having listened to my semnheiser hev1060 and the brilliant mk.III(TRADEMARK), the mk III is just better
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>>53597766
I'm not super sensitive to that stuff. As long as it's worth the 50-60 bucks im paying
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Why is there so much memery around the t50rp?
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Which TOTL headphone has the best detail retrieval?
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what does /g/ think about the vmoda m100's? are they a meme? halp.
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>>53600029
BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS
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>>53600039
I'm unsure whether that was positive or not but thanks I'll keep that in mind
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>>53600029
Very bassy, built like a tank, if you are a bass head this is a great option and one of the most durable headphones you will ever find.
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would a chord mojo be enough to amp up a hd 800
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>>53600104
It's preference. Some people like bass for days, some enjoy K702 bass.
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>>53600129
Get O2 or Magni. Chord Electronics is a meme.
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>>53600113
>>53600134
I am quite a big bass head that's why I thought i'd go for these, looking for closed back too so these are kinda perfect for me. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger but I don't know if the bass will be too overwhelming and drown out the mids and trebs. Also do you guys think i'd need an amp to get the best experience with these or will I be good with onboard sound?
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>>53600214
No need for an amp.
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>>53594734
They're better than anything Sennheiser or Audio Technica makes at $100.
>but muh bass
They still sound fantastic, despite the diminished bass. The best way to describe the sound is "tight," and their sound signature becomes more neutral the more you use them. And if you really want the bass, they're super easy to mod, and there are a huge number of well-documented mods available.
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>>53600357
Alright, I think i'm gonna go for it then. Thanks anon.
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My Piston IIIs arrived.

They're amazing, though the cable could have been a little longer and a skip track button would've been nice but I can work around that.

9/10, well worth the price and actually comfortable.
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>>53601228
Where did you buy them from?
Will you use a equalizer? You can make it sound flatter like a $300 HD600.
I don't use a parametric equalizer. So I don't know what you can do. Ask someone else for parametric Piston 3 EQ help.
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>>53601627
eBay, Australia doesn't have many options when it comes to audio devices. I've just been using the equalizer from some shoddy Realtek software since the cord won't reach around the back of my PC to my Xonar sound card. Would something like this sabotage the sound quality in any way? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Audio-iPod-Headphone-Extension-Cord-Cable-M-F-Male-to-Female-/331159011011?hash=item4d1a9d7ec3:g:6sMAAOSwD0lUj9Sw
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>>53601726
>Would something like this sabotage the sound quality in any way?
Nope because I do the same thing.
And why doesn't my Realtek software have EQ settings like you said? I'm using the software EQ from foobar2k atm.
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Are extension cables all the same? Can I just grab some cheap $5-10 one for my headphones as long as they're long enough? Even if they need an amp or something like that.

I'm not the person above, it's just a coincidence.
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>>53601799
I was having the same issue but I got it by playing around enough through something along the lines of:

>Roll back Realtek drivers
>Restart
>Update them again
>Restart
>Disable all enhancements in the sound settings in control panel
>They appeared

I don't know what exactly made the option come back since I use my Asus Xonar software more often. Maybe try disabling any other audio devices and software using them, whatever works.
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>>53601726
>Australia doesn't have many options when it comes to audio devices.
Minidisc, Addictedtoaudio.
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>>53602125
Minidisc only has good prices on very few items (Sennheiser headphones mostly) and AtA is just completely overpriced, their Schiit stuff is literally double.
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>>53596820
Ve monk or earpods. Yuin PK 1.
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>>53597614
xpt100
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>>53596756
According to a guy on r/headphones, the K92 sounds a bit like the Q701: focused on mids, with a little emphasis on the mid-high frequencies
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>>53586688
SWEDEN YES
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Hey guys, What Headphones do you suggest I should buy? I do some light gaming like CSGO and rocket League, and I listen to songs any other time i'm not playing.

Budget :$80

Currently I have the razer carcharias which I bought like 4 years ago which i'm fed up with. They are like rusting, and all I hear is beeping sounds and annoying noise because you have to plug it in with USB to use it because of the shitty green LED and Synapse.. I can't complain on it's sound quality and Bass though, its pretty good.

What do you guys suggest I should buy?
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>>53599954
HD800/S
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>>53599954
We probably should first define what that even means.
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>>53603889
Revealing the subtle detail I'd assume. Basically analytical.
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Natalia Poklonskaya is a connoisseur of quality.
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>>53603931
Yes indeed and what is that. You just worded it differently. What would make HD 800 good at it?
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>>53603976
What other way is there to put it? Easy to hear the little details. HD800, LCD-X, K702 and such are analytical and reveal minor details, which can be anything captured by the microphone or a layer in the music. A headphone that isn't really analytical and revealing would be something like LCD-3 or X2.
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>>53603758
Superluxes for gaymen
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>>53604090
There is a way to define these things in objective terms. What is a layer in sound?
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>>53604144
Instruments, vocals, whatever the producer adds.
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should i buy an amp for my k612's?
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>>53603950
>beyer earrape
>a connoisseur of quality
top kek
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what even decides prices on amazon

DT 880 (250 ohm) is suddenly only $199.99 now.
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>>53604362
Yes, but nothing too powerful. Fiio E6 is fine.
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>>53603758
Philips SHP9500
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Fiio e6 vs e10k? If I don't know shit about dacs and amps but want to try them out should I nut up for the e10k or just get the e6?
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>>53604746
E6 is an amp, E10K is a dac/amp combo. If your mobo doesn't give off hiss, strange noises ecc.ecc. you don't need any dac.
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>>53604631
thank you
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>>53582470
Lads i'm a fucking retard, my o2 amp just arrived and I was expecting it to have a usb port on the back but there is nothing. Do I have to plug in a 3.5mm cable in the second port and then feed that to my 3.5mm port on my pc?

Guessing I need to buy a cable now and I can't even test this thing yet, fuck sake.
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>>53586843
what dap is that
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>>53604144
I recently bought and modded an HD800 with a resonator, came from having a Grado RS2i and an SR80 before that.
The RS2's are also fine headphones and listening to them and comparing to the HD800, with the latter it's considerably easier to tell where a sound is coming from in space, rather than through basic stereo cues, almost as if you're listening to a track recorded with HRTF.
Listening to some orchestral tracks I like, the deep bass seems to separate from the entirety of the rest of the soundscape and never drowns out the rest of the instruments even when their sound becomes all-encompassing, while the Grados have a heavier emphasis on bass and don't sound as clear.
In another track, there is percussion that sweeps across the soundstage, and with the Grados I have a good idea of where the sound is coming from, but with the HD800 I can also tell that some of the instruments are closer or further back.
Of course a track needs to be recorded/mixed/mastered properly in the first place, a shitty production is going to sound flat on any headphone.
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>>53604969
O2 is an amplifier, not a DAC. You input it with analog signal and the stock O2 uses a 3.5mm stereo for this.

>>53604982
Wow wee sounds like frequency response being more extended and less colored. That's detail. EQ for even better sound.
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>>53604969
You should inform yourself on your future purchases before buying certain products, only because they get easily recommended here. A E10K would have been better for you.

>>53604982
> Listening to some orchestral tracks I like, the deep bass seems to separate from the entirety of the rest of the soundscape and never drowns out the rest of the instruments even when their sound becomes all-encompassing
> there is percussion that sweeps across the soundstage
Literally my same impressions when listening to music on the K702
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Hia
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>>53605114
I actually sold my e10k to buy this.

Will a simple 3.5mm cable connect this thing to my pc or am I fucked?
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>>53605167
I just connected it to my pc with a 3.5mm cable and it seems to work fine, Can anyone recommended short good quality 3.5mm cables?, I don't want to pay silly money.
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>>53605167
>Will a simple 3.5mm cable connect this thing to my pc

Yes, a 3.5mm cable will be fine.
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>>53605095
but I do, resonator mod + eq = audio bliss
>>53605114
I never thought the RS2s were lacking in frequency response/extension or that they colored the sound much in the years I've used them, but I didn't have anything better to compare to. At the time they also gave me the same relative impression to the various junk I had before, and the 800's just stepped that impression higher.
Have you listened to something higher-end than the K702, or is just your current reference?
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>Budget
around 200-300E
>Location
FR/EU
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
anything...quality is what matters
>Open or closed
anything...quality is what matters. so probably closed
>Comfort level
not painful is good enough
>Preferred tonal balance
bassy/v-shaped i guess .. whatever fits best preffered musig
>Preferred music
mostly rock, but also other types
>Past headphones
shitty sony something 50E worth
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>>53605755
MSR7 or HD600. Both are good buy anything. No difference to your pleb ears. Go closed or open back.
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My HF5 cable has started tearing, not sure how long it'll last.

What's the next step in iems?
The next tier already seems to be in the entry ciem price range ~$250. But if I'm throwing in the cost for ear impressions and customization for keeps, I might as well get triple BA ~$500.

Is it worth it to spend that much (~700) if I'm not a professional musician?
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So are these any good?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=26-138-190
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>>53606344
I don't know. CIEM is usually overpriced, but its really sealed nicely. Many people that I know spending that much usually just shrug it as a hobby though, so there's that.
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>>53605901
okay then. MSR7 it is!
any advice for a ~100E sound card for my pleb ears?
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Anything around the same price with similar bass but less treble?
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HD600s or HE400is?
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>>53606530
No sound card needed. If you're a manchild "gamer" then buy one. Do you see anyone with $1k+ headphones still using sound cards? You want your audio chain to be as transparent as possible without that gimmicky colored echoey surround sounding sound card.
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>>53606708
HD 600 because it's more neutral.
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>>53606774
i'm new to this, but you're telling me that the stuff they put on motherboards is better than a dedicated sound card?
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>>53606843
Well you're not wrong.
Sound cards are better and come with more software features.

A dedicated external Amp and DAC are better choices. Buying expensive Hi-Fi Reference stereo headphones and using it on a surround sound card defeats its purpose doesn't it? You're just making it sound colored and different.
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>>53606961
I might be retarded here.
I do get the stupidness of having surround card and stereo headphones.
But I was referring to a stereo sound card. Which should obviously improve the sound quality you get in the stereo headphones...
The question is: is it worth it? Will the price I pay for the sound card make any difference for my pleb ears?
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Hey everyone, I'm looking to buy my first open back headphones and I'm considering the k712's. Does anyone here have any experience with them? I borrowed my friends k7xx's and was blown away, but I did wish the bass was more pronounced. I'd be driving them with an O2 so I don't think I'd have any issues in that department. I play a lot of games and I listen to a bit of everything really. So in summary, would it be foolish to purchase the k712's over the k702's or k7xx?
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Hello everyone, need a new headphone!

>Budget : 100€ max (less if possible)
>Location : France
>Source : /
>Preferred type of headphone : /
>Open or closed : closed if possible
>Comfort level : high (big head, glasses, large ear)
>Preferred tonal balance :/
>Preferred music : anime opening
>Past headphones : taskstar hi2050
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>>53607153
I can't speak for those but I have the 702's and an o2 dac and they work very well. I use the apo EQ to add bass to them and now i think i'm set for a very, very long time ;)

>pic related
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>>53607075
>is it worth it?
No
Surround sound cards don't have accurate sound reproduction unless you disable all enhancements.
>Will the price I pay for the sound card make any difference for my pleb ears?
The wow factor for a surround sound card is definitely worth trying out and it'll wow you just like a 3D glasses gaming monitor would. And I'm pretty sure your smartphone has an option like 3D stereo EQ if you wanna try that out. It's basically the same thing as a surround sound card.

>Next I guess that you'll ask. Do I need a external Amp and DAC?
It's your choice. Do your research and then decide.
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>>53607153
>So in summary, would it be foolish to purchase the k712's over the k702's or k7xx?
Yes as I think the K712 is clearly worse than those two.
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>>53607370
ok. thanks
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>>53607392
Why? Because it has bass while the others barely have it?

> sub bass bellow 0db
> having bass
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I bought a pair of altec lansing "evolution" headphones for 20 Bucks at office depot, how bad did I fuck up?
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>>53586688
Actually I would recommend you look for closed headphones, so you can keep the sound of rioting refugees blocked out
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>>53607778
It has abundance of bass and a more colored midrange. It's a step down from the K702 and K612.
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>>53587840
You should have just taken the £50+ you spent on 4 shitty pairs and bought 1 good pair.
Cheapest earphones I would recommend are the xiaomi pistons, just make sure you find a trusted seller there are tons of counterfeits.
>>
Thoughts on Sony MDR V55?
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>>53592716
I have a pair for at work. YMMV on seal, I've seen people complain online but mine personally seal great I can barely hear outside noise whatsoever. Sound is neutral, I get listening fatigue after a few hours because the treble is a tad harsh for me, but they've held up great overall I would recommend. They go on sale on Amazon sometimes I think I got mine for $55
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>>53607221
anyone ?
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>Budget
€150

>Location
Europe (thomann.de is probably the cheapest)

>Source
Telephone, laptop

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Closed, good isolation is important

>Comfort level
Relatively large head

>Preferred tonal balance
Balenced

>Preferred music
Jazz and dadrock

>Past headphones
Cheap in ears

A microphone/next-previous-pause button is essential.
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>>53601228
If you double click the middle button it will skip track.
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>>53600416
AKG is still better
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>>53605420
>Have you listened to something higher-end than the K702, or is just your current reference?
I had a X2, which costs almost twice as much as the K702. I find the K702 an upgrade in every way.

>>53607153
K702/K7XX is better than K712, because it has flatter mids. If bass is all you want, there are better headphones than K712.
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>>53590049
Canals?
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>>53585368
>Answer why those two models only if you're going to keep on trolling for answers.

They are similarly priced in where I live and come from the most trusted and respected companies in the business.
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>>53609593
Is the Q701 also superior to the 712s as well? From what I understand the q701 have a small bass boost of 3 db compared to the K701/K702 ???
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>>53610006
Q701 is identical to K701, Headroom graphs can be misleading. I would get the K702 or the K7XX over them though. I have a K702 and I don't find it lacking in any frequency region. I don't even feel the need to EQ it.
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>>53609100
Anything with a detachable cable should be good enough as well.

Input?
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V-moda m-100 anon here, just bought them. Did I goof?
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>>53610101
Yes, you bought 3d printed memes
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>>53610157
>3d printed memes
Ok, but is the sound quality shit?
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>Budget
8,000INR or 100USD thereabouts +- 10USD max.
>Location
India
>Source
Realtek ALC887
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
low
>Preferred tonal balance
Preferred music
>Preferred music
Everything by The Beatles
>Past headphones
Sennheiser CX 180

INB4 designated

I'm on the verge of getting a pair of Sony MDR 7506 but I'm guessing it'd be overkill.
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>>53610304
POO IN THE LOO PANJEET
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>>53610304
Why the fuck it would be overkill Pajeet?
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>>53610378
they are supposed to be DJ/mixing headphones for someone who's buying his first proper pair for listening to music by one artist where the equalizer set to "soft rock" covers almost every track, I'm just not sure I'm putting the money in the right place.
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>>53610304
Shp9500
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>>53610304
get a toilet instead
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>>53610071
Why would you pick k702 over the K701s??
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>>53610555
thanks for the suggestion mate in a sea of retards its nice to have someone who doesn't spout memes at you.

If you'r familiar with the track @ 1:10 the bass on "Come Together" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTNitq77Utg
that's what I've been thinking of as a benchmark to see if i like the pair i eventually buy, good plan?
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>>53609100
Pro4aa's, fuck the microphone and button
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Under £1000
UK
MP3
Full sized or Earphones
Closed
Comfortable
Neutral or balanced
I'll be using these cans in the gym so I don't want them falling off when I'm running, I don't want them to be heavy but light. I want as much isoloation as possible as I hate the music the gym has. If possible a smaller and lighter headphone than a Takstar HI 2050 please.
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