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For day to day use, how did installing a SSD improve your experience?
What SSD are you using?
Is ~150gb enough, or should I get at least over 200gb SSD for OS and some other commonly used files?
>>53581922
You should be good with a 120GB SSD, especially if you don't store much. You can always throw in a HDD to your system if you need more storage.
>>53581943
This, 120GB SSD is fine. Hell I went over a year with a 16GB SSD in my laptop
>>53581880
budget SSD, Kingston V300 series
good enough for OS and photoshop loads in 1 second
>>53581955
Yea, as a boot drive 120GB is not bad at all.
>>53581980
How much better is it for you? Rather than using a HDD as a boot drive.
>>53581880
Windows 8.1 boots in under 10 seconds.
Internet browsing is noticeably snappier.
Load times in gayms is much quicker (I'm one of the first loaded in Chivalry, BF4, etc.)
I have a 120GB 840 EVO for my boot drive and a 500GB 850 EVO for gayms/music/etc.
>>53581880
Has a comfy boot drive.
If you been using a slow ass laptop for longer than 4 years you really feel speed increase.
>>53581880
I use an SSD for my OS and a few select programs that I use for art making.
They open almost instantly and I have this habit of closing/opening them several times throughout the day, so the SSD really helps.
120GB is fine for such uses.
There's no reason not to store most of your other files onto a HDD. I even have the majority of my temp filed pointed to my HDD.
>>53582005
>>53582008
>>53582017
Seems like you guys really enjoy having one.
Should others upgrade to an SSD as a boot drive?
Even I, am still using HDD's.
>>53582060
I see no reason to not have an SSD at this point
>>53582073
You sir are correct.
Unless if you are on a extreme budget, you should fork over an extra 50 for an SSD.
Should I get one for myself?
>>53581880
>he fell for the ssd meme
>>53582103
>>53582103
>he fell for the fell for it meme
256GB SSD for OS, makes the boot real fast even though I keep it on pretty much all the time, anyone know if that could affect the life of it?
Once the prices for 1TB+ drives come down I'll probably grab one for gaymes too
>>53582103
>the SSDs are a meme meme
Sure is 2012 in here
>>53582121
Nope, that does not affect the life of it. What does is reading and writing, you never really have to worry about that though.
>>53581922
I understand going for 120GB SSD's a year or so ago, but now you can get 250GB SSDs at $100 or less.
games benefit from being on SSD as well, and it could be huge depending on how many loading times it has. At least with a 250GB SSD, you can keep 10-20 games installed which should be convenient enough (while you have the rest backed up on the HDD).
>>53582125
>>53582119
This.
>>53582158
Writing does, reading does not
>>53582159
I personally would not put any games on an SSD, it is not like I play them much anyways.
I have an M.2 drive to boot from and two SATA drives in RAID 0 for game/program storage. Speeds are pretty great. I'd replace my two 1TB media storage HDDs if prices got better.
>>53582177
Thanks for the correction bro.
I have 2 512gb crucial m550s in raid 0. Shit's cash. ~1gb/s read and write. Waiting for pcie ssd's that get 2-3gb/s read AND write to upgrade.
>>53582200
I wish my motherboard had an M.2 slot. I would get one of those things in a heart beat.
>>53582212
That is good man, I don't think that i would personally really see a difference, using raid.
>>53582212
Also have 2 3tb and a 6tb. All barracudas.
>>53582158
>>53582177
Ah nice, should last a while then since apparently the 840 Pro can handle something like 1.5PB of writes (according to https://techreport.com/review/27062/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-only-two-remain-after-1-5pb/2 at least)
Pretty glad I paid extra for this instead of getting something cheap
>>53582228
With 2 drives, you do, but after that you have to really speed things up to notice.
>>53582241
Even a cheaper alternative to that SSD would last a fuck load.
You would probably upgrade to a better drive before you had to replace an SSD from writes.
>>53582254
>>53582212
I wonder how this would perform anon.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-Predator-SHPM2280P2H-240G/dp/B00V01C4RK/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458446617&sr=1-1&keywords=pcie+ssd
Bought a 480GB PNY SSD today to store my VMs on because Windows Server is slow, mechanical HDDs are slow, and VMs are slow. Can't do much about WS being slow, and I've allocated a fair bit of resources to making sure the VMs aren't as slow. The SSD improved things considerably. I'm tempted to get a second for RAID0. A PCIe SSD would be nice but I'm not a richfag.
>Samsung EVO 840
It actually didn't improve my experience at all, I went back to my old WD hdds
>>53581880
Can I fit one in my ass?
No?
Then fuck off to /g/
>>53582378
It is not much more expensive than what you got now.
>>53582398
You did not notice anything at all?
2x Gskill Phoenix FTL 240's in RAID0
>>53581880
840 EVO 256GB
Made my OS smoother and more responsive.
Let me forget about defragging and constantly worrying that my files are fragmented.
>>53581997
Loading is faster. Way faster, to the point that I don't need to bother using windows 10 because windows 7 boots more or less at the same time. That's about it, and no need to defrag.
Thinkpad W510 here. I've got a 120GB SSD and then /home is on a 3TB HDD hooked up to a drive enclosure. It's pretty comfy.
>>53582583
>>53582593
Seems like it is totally worth it.
m.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/10/hdd_vs_ssd_real_world_gaming_performance/
lol
>>53581880
Boot time and using Windows search is near instantaneous. I'm using a Samsung 850 Pro 1TB.
>>53582504
>It is not much more expensive than what you got now.
A 480GB PCIe SSD is $360 (pre-tax because I live in a shitty state that taxes online purchases). I paid $130 including tax for a 480GB SATAIII SSD. It's almost three times as expensive for the PCIe SSD and I don't even know how much performance would benefit from having it. RAID0 might get me at least 800+MB/s RW and twice the storage while still being $100 cheaper than the PCIe SSD, which is why I was considering that.
>>53582616
>Gaming
Please remove yourself from society anon.
Obviously an SSD will not improve FPS for your games.
>>53582668
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-850-EVO-3-5-Inch-MZ-N5E500BW/dp/B00TGIW1XG/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1458448578&sr=1-6&keywords=pcie+ssd
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018U79YQK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A3AHFWUNORUSXK
You would need to purchase these two items.
or this.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V01C4RK?keywords=pcie%20ssd&qid=1458448695&ref_=sr_1_1&s=pc&sr=1-1
>>53582715
>The 850 EVO delivers class-leading performance* in sequential read (540MB/s) and write (520MB/s) speeds.
But I already get those.
>>53581880
I use SSDs to lengthen the use-life of old hardware.
It makes shitty old machines feel snappy.
Core 2 Duo Laptop?
Drop in an SSD and you'll be happy.
>>53582775
But doesn't SATA 2 bottleneck them?
>>53582844
Not him, but yes and no. You obviously wont get the full capability of the drive, but it's still a hell of a lot faster because of the lower latency.
>>53581880
>how did installing a SSD improve your experience?
Uh, they are fucking faster than mechanicals? Why is this a thread?
I'm getting the 850 500GB EVO Monday and that'll make my system full on SSD.
It'll be nice to have all of my files on an SSD, but I'd say one of the main reasons I wanna have a full SSD system, is the noise HDD makes.
Sounds like a little nitpick, but it's still annoying as shit to listen to the surprisingly loud noises coming out of the mechanical drive.
>>53583038
I don't know what is wrong with your hard drives.
Mines make almost no noise.
>>53582398
did you have 15000RPM HDDs or something
>>53582844
Better to have an SSD bottlenecked by SATA II than SATA II bottlenecked by your HDD
>>53583263
True, true. Plus like the other anon said, the latency is much lower.
>>53582060
>Should others upgrade to an SSD as a boot drive?
If they have the money, yeah. Nothing wrong with using mechanicals, although that's sort of the same thing as saying there's nothing wrong with using a Pentium 4 nowadays. It still works great but there are much better things out there
>>53582200
>M.2
>evo
I have some bad news for you.
For any one wondering BTW, regular m.2 isn't worth it. If it isn't gen3, don't even bother. 10gbs doesn't justify the increased price of actual m.2 ssds.
I have a sm951. The difference is noticeable.
How do I get shit samsung software partition off of this thing so it can be a regular drive and I can put the mSATA 850 EVO inside into my T420?
>>53582450
/thread
So whats the verdict when 2 tb SSDS come out?
good idea/bad idea?
>>53582200
You have a SATA M.2 drive retard
>>53581880
Huge difference. Even bigger difference using an enterprise SSD for bcache on my server.
OPTANE WHEN?
>>53583675
This year but out of consumer budget. The target market right now is enterprise customers.
>>53583697
I'm crossing my fingers for 256GB at $500 or under. A bit optimistic, but not beyond hope I think.
Been using an SSD for my boot drive for 5 years or so now. First one cost me around $120 for 40 GB.
Right now I have a 250 GB boot drive and a 500 GB drive for games. (Plus ~5TB of HDD's for bulk storage)
>>53583730
It'd be nice but I doubt that will happen for a couple of years. By the time Optane hits that NAND ssds will be more like $50 for 1TB.
Thinking of purchasing an ssd for my gaming pc. (I use a macbook for anything productivity related) Is it worth it or will it not help that much with performance.
It loads things fast
Isn't that the whole purpose
I don't really remember what is was like before I had one so I just look at console loading screens to imagine.
Am still pretty pissed that I have to zero write my 840 EVO every so often because SamShit
>>53583796
it helps boot and load times.
disk i/o is rarely a significant bottleneck in games, though it is slightly more so in the "always loading content" sort of open world scenarios
>>53583390
Thanks for teh idea, I was going to toss a 2.5" SSD in a spare enclosure then realized I had an mSATA SSD lying around, just picked up a USB3 enclosure
Anyone here has a Sandisk plus?
I just want to replace a FUBAR laptop HDD.
Everybody post your writes.
>>53581880
>installing a SSD
I dont install memes, only rotational magnetic disks that spin at no less than 10,000 RPM's
>>53583993
I love the threads where people realize the truth and hate /g/ for it. Everything is a meme.
>>53583993
I have 2 of these. They're fucking goats and I wouldn't use anything else
>>53582398
EVO are worst SSD
samsung even after 2 firmware upgrades haven't solved these drives getting slower over time
they are shit by design, samsung should just recall them
>>53581997
not that guy but my machine goes from 0 to login screen in 2.5 seconds
>>53584235
My velociraptor does that in 2.45 seconds
>>53584320
Bet your seek times are as good too, and how about laptops, faggot?
>>53584353
>not knowing 10k rpm drives are 2.5" form factor
>>53584369
>implying I didn't
>implying an SSD's only advantage in a laptop is speed
>>53584377
CAN'T CONTAIN THE BEAST WITHIN
>>53583993
Edgy
>>53583993
> He fell for the Raptor meme...
WTF would you 10K spindles that aren't SAS?
>>53581880
Pair of Sandisk Ultra 2's 480GB. RAID 1. Not bad, 'specially for $90/drive.
>>53582200
>those temps
Using an i7 laptop with a Kingston hyper x fury SSD(120gb) for my C drive.
Drive D is a regular WD 1TB HDD.
520 mb read, ~150 mb write
Everything opens instantly.
It annoys me that from time to time the HDD gets accessed and starts buzzing for a few seconds.
What do?
>>53584618
tape down the disk so it doesn't spin anymore
>>53584645
120GB SSD for OS.
Thinking of cloning and replacing it with a 500GB one that I bought a while ago and use the 120GB one in my laptop.
Y/N?
I'd be able to store my music projects, samples and games on the SSD then, instead of on the 2TB HDD I have.
>>53584680
Also, what's the best cloning software?
I assume they will work if you have a cracked Windows?
>>53584680
yes
>>53582103
I sure did fall for it. I switched my 1TB HDD for a 1TB Samsung 840 SSD and I am not going back to HDDs ever again.
So I want to replace my laptops hdd with a 1tb Samsung 850 evo, is it a good idea to have an ssd as the only storage medium?
I don't write to the drive that often
>>53581922
I have 2 120gb ssds in my machines and now that i'm forced to use windows, visual studio and matlab alongside linux, i have to purchase a bigger one.
>>53584990
I'm not worried about storage, just about the overall quality and health of the drive
>>53585012
Buy a 240gb 850 Evo,
>>53585031
> Only storage medium
I want to upgrade my drive, not cut it's size down by 4.
Is the 850 evo 1tb okay? That's all I wanted to know
>>53585053
Yes
>>53585060
Okay, thank you.
850 EVO with 250GB just for the OS.
Pretty good. I thought SSDs were meme technology until I got to try it on my work laptop.
Everything is really quick even though the overall system is kinda shit. So I just bought one for my home computer and now everything is flying.
>>53581880
SSDs max my FPS!
How can I find an SSD won't shit itself after writing exhausting its "fast" memory?
example: Recent SSD I purchased benchmarked at fast speeds, but went down to 80MB/s writes after the buffer was exhausted.
pic is my Mushkin 1TB
>>53582200
>all that samshit
I can smell the kimchi in your computer from across the pacific
What's the best inexpensive SSD that won't shit itself /g/?
I looked at the 850 Evo and the 850 Pro but the numbers weren't that different except the 10 year warranty. Does this indicate that the 850 Pro has better longevity? Also what of the Sandisk and Kingston offerings?
I upgraded my PC a while back. Got a 1TB western digital black and a 250gb samsung 850 evo.
I didn't expect it to be such a dramatic upgrade. Windows boots in a matter of 10 seconds or less from the power button. It's pretty amazing to be after spending years waiting for almost a minute.
I don't even install all my games on it, even on the WD black games load so much faster than I'm used to. But the ones I do put on the SSD load stupid fast.
Was definitely worth the money for it.
Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
>>53587733
windows boots in 15-20 seconds for me with the same SSD
is it because I have win10
>>53581880
I just bought Samsung 650. Boot times got reduced from 30 to 5 seconds, every program loads instantly now, system become responsive.
It was great choice.
>>53587798
Nice ram benchmarks faggot
Can someone who follows the technology tell me whether modern SSDs have protection to prevent data corruption in the event of a sudden power outage?
I've been considering getting an SSD now that they're cheap and using it as a boot drive and for program insgtallation, but power outages are fairly common where I live and I've heard that sudden power loss kills the drives (or, at least, corrupts the data on them?)
And please don't reply with "get a UPS you nigger," thanks.
>>53588290
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/docs/Unexpected_Power_Loss_Protection_Final.pdf
>>53585053
There's also the 2Tb option. The Evos should last longer than your motherboard/psu/ram/etc but if you plan on doing a ludicrous amount of writing you should go for the Pro.
>>53585940
Mushkin is a budget solution, so that kinda stuff is to be expected.
Just get any of the leading brands and you're good to go. They don't have that problem.
Samsung seems like a pretty solid choice.
They seem to have gotten over the 840 debacle and now their drives are functioning flawlessly.
On another note, talking about Mushkin, they're going to release 4TB for 500$ SSD during the summer.
This should drive down the SSD prices pretty radically in the near future.
>>53585940
Buy a Samsung or Intel.
950 evo 500gb
browser tabs open very quickly in comparison, games and windows load just slightly faster. Overall not worth it
worth it.
I noticed a huge difference in boot time, the time it takes to install programs and then loading up said program. Overall my PC feels snappier and faster in everyday use.
I'm using a 120GB Sandisk SSD Plus as my boot and programs drive and a 1TB WD black HDD as my media and vidya storage drive.
>>53589053
There is no 950 EVO.
>>53581880
I ordered a Kingston 120GB SSD today for my dads old laptop. Will I regret it?
>>53589443
Sorry, Sandisk not Kingston.
>>53582097
At my local microcenter it's cheaper to buy an SSD at this point. They have a deal or $60 for a 200gb PNY drive.
>>53581922
>>53581943
thats what i thought, then i bought the 512GB 850 pro, and im using quite a bit of it since i just dont care about the disk health anymore (lets face it, it will probably outlive me)
Should I get the Evo or Pro?
>>53582212
they wont,
you need to buy a m.2 ssd
>>53589574
M.2 is a form factor, PCIe is the interface retard
>>53589443
Plus or ultra?
Both will be fine.
>>53588290
No. That PDF is out of date also, BTW. The Intel 730 is the only consumer drive that has full power loss protection. They are stupid expensive right now tho. Crucial mx200 has pseudo- protection where the firmware has caps to prevent corruption, but your data is not. You will have to get an Intel 3500(3700?) or old AF m550 crucial to get full protection as far as I know.
I bought the meme SSD
512GB 950 Pro
>>53589567
Get a 950 Pro if your board supports it.
>>53590006
Those write speeds look really bad.
>>53589920
Plus
I fell for the SSD mene multiple times.
Is the 850 pro worth it over the other ssds
>>53583993
>turd
>>53592532
Yes.
I was gonna ask the /sqt/ but i'll ask here instead.
Why are 120GB SSDs a thing? Why isn't it just 128GB?
>>53581880
Using A-Data 600 SP, and 550, 256gb, and 240gb.
Everything is snappy fast, PC boots up quickly, applications open up right as I click them, and most importantly, complete silence, nothing like a super quiet computer without that horrible mechanical noise from HDD
Scheduled to be here tomorrow by 8 pm
Fucking hyped, first high end ssd I've bought and even low tier ones are awesome
>>53582189
It's super worth it for games with unbearably long load times. Otherwise, I don't bother.
>>53592906
8GB to replace bad blocks.
>>53592906
wear leveling
>just don't write anything to them
>just don't put any data you don't want to loose on them
>just put the OS on it and put everything important on an HDD
>>53593725
Good SSDs are more reliable than HDD these days. And the ceiling for writes is insanely huge. Did you just get out of the time machine from '09?
>>53582844
I use sata 2 with SSDs. It's not that big of a deal. With a ram cache, you can temporarily not be limited by sata speeds. Also, you only get those fast speeds doing sequential reads and writes or having a big ahci queue, which doesn't happen that often in real workloads.
I have a 128gb SSD and a 1TB HDD. I've been always doing this SSD - System / HDD - Storage setup.
It just works well.
>>53581922
My experience says that you'll always use almost Avery thing that you have available. At work I have a 240 and it's almost full. At home I have a 512 and is always almost full. Before this home computer I had a 256 and I was almost full.
I think it's ok to sometimes find where u r wasting space and delete some files. The only thing that I really need to store today are photos.
Do you know how many 10000 RPM HD in RAID would be necessary to perform as a SSD ?
Thinking about upgrading to a 250GB SSD.
My 128GB one is almost full and I can't uninstall more large programs on it. Well, I could clean up everything by doing a full wipe and selectively reinstalling shit but I don't feel like that.
850 Evo 250GB worth it right now? Wish I had an m.2 slot
>>53594158
*can't install more large programs
well I can't uninstall them either cause I need them
>>53590006
do a trim or connect your disk to a m.2 3.0 x4 slot.
the one thats labeled m.2 Ultra
