Why aren't you using KDE /g/?
Fuck you, I am.
Because I'm on a superior OS.
beccause i don't want to use a system z only to start the file explorer
Because I use linux(arch) you windows fag
>>53552510
>not installing KDE in Arch Linux
>>53552372
Little to no CG Industry software support.
Because I use Window Maker
>>53552372
I wish I could anon but my old c2d and 3 GB RAM limitation is saying no.
>>53552929
kde4 on arch runs like a champ on my c2d e8400
>>53552588
>literally kidpix-based UI
there is no beating this level of cancer
>>53552965
Sadly I'm using T2450. KDE is really beautiful but atm don't have resources for it or money to upgrade current hardware.
>>53552969
Works great with a touchscreen, I don't see the issue. I like it
I honestly don't know. I'm using cinnamon on arch and it sucks. /g/ told me it was the best. I'm so close to switching to gnome
>>53553076
>gnome
Worst possible choice.
Alright KDE it is then.
Bugy with my graphics... Just a wallpaper with a screwed up panel when you log in. If I try to launch a window, everything spazes out even more. I dropped it in 2 minutes. Later I found out it's the compositing/effects and I had to turn that off. To add further, it's resource hungry. Just not a great environment for a laptop/notebook.
So I see you're using KDE.
>>53552461
Like Windows 10
I'll install it when I get home but it kind of sux on Windows
>>53553076
Just go full autism mode and use a WM, you already installed arch so it's not that far off
Because Xfce is faster.
KDE 4.x best KDE.
Plasma 5 is completely awful right now, crashes with a mean look and doesn't have enough features yet.
>>53552372
Because xfce master race
>>53552372
Because I'm straight.
>>53555231
Which distro are you using?
KDE5 itself is fine but some distros don't know how to package all the different components (Qt, Frameworks, Plasma and Applications) together with compatible versions.
Ubuntu, for example, is so fucked, that the KDE team is starting their own distro (KDE Neon) just to stop people from using Kubuntu and thinking that the problem lies with KDE.
>>53555295
Great, another "distro" 105that's just Ubuntu with a different DE
Because I have i3
>>53555326
Kubuntu: Ubuntu with out-of-date and incompatible KDE packages
KDE Neon: Ubuntu with up-to-date and compatible KDE packages
Or you can just keep using Kubuntu and install the KDE Neon PPA.
What's the problem?
I use bspwm.
I'd like to use the kde file picker, but I have a lot of gtk software, and there's no nice theme similar to arc for qt, afaik.
>>53555386
It's still Ubuntu, not a new distro.
>>53552372
Why don't you activate the dark version of the icon theme (breeze dark)?
>>53552372
It's bloated as fuck. I'd rather just use Windows than a fucking KDE.
>>53553063
I'm sorry but everything about that desktop is vomit inducing.
>>53555441
I'm sure I'd hate your desktop too, and that's the cool part about opinions, everybody has their own
>>53555416
Okay, but what's your problem?
Canonical created a problem (bad packages) and the KDE team is offering a solution (good packages) to fix that problem, so what is it that makes you upset?
>>53555399
Qt can use the themes
>>53555474
I'd consider it justified. Are you actually using a touchscreen?
>>53555474
But you're opinions are objectively wrong
>>53555483
I've told you my problem multiple times; It's not a new distro, it's just Ubuntu. They could have done the same thing by just creating the PPA
>>53555526
>you're opinions
>>53555519
>using discord
>in 3k16 - 1000
And you consider it justified?
>>53555519
>Are you actually using a touchscreen?
Yeah
>>53555530
The "new distro" is just Kubuntu with the PPA installed and the packages updated.
This lets people jump straight to a working system, and not have to deal with the hassle of first installing a non-working system and then later updating it to a working system.
So really, what's your problem?
>>53555560
What else am I gonna convince my normie gamur friends to use?
And I meant you would be justified to hate my desktop. I'm surprised you picked out Discord before the fucking Goodra.
>>53555577
>So really, what's your problem?
For the third or fourth fucking time, it's just Ubuntu.
>>53555530
>They could have done the same thing by just creating the PPA
http://neon.kde.org/faq
>>53555592
>For the third or fourth fucking time, it's just Ubuntu.
Not him but why is that a problem in the first place?
>>53555592
Right. What's wrong with it being Ubuntu?
Are you some 1337 hacker who thinks it's ideologically wrong for systems to be easy to use?
>>53555542
>implying you don't understand it in context
You're just a piece of shit, aren't you?
Were you too offended? Did I hurt your feelings? TOO BAD!
It's not as smooth as the bloatiest desktop environments, including those from different operating systems altogether.
Or at least it hasn't been. I wouldn't mind switching to it but if it's basically eyecandy, it better be fucking good eyecandy, and that means OSX animation level of eyecandy.
>>53555617
>>53555624
Because it's not a new distro just because it ships with a different DE. It's not Kubuntu, it's just Ubuntu with KDE. It's not Xubuntu, it's just Ubuntu with Xfce.
>>53555589
Is goodra some fucking furry shit?
>>53552372
Because it's bloated AF.
>>53552372
Because all major distros use "we want tablet UI in Desktops" Gnome in default.
>>53555627
Well I'm >>53555441 and the only thing that offended me was your inability to grammar.
>>53555679
Close enough.
>>53555660
It's Ubuntu with tweaks and some different packages.
And Ubuntu is just Debian with tweaks and some different packages.
Why does this bother you?
>>53555660
Why that bothers you in the first place?
>>53552372
it was decent when I last used but broken in a few minor yet extremely annoying ways.
now I'm on Xfce and probably will be for a while.
Literally made me drop Kubuntu.
>install OS that features KDE
>it actually features KDE
fucking shit fuck KDE
>>53555739
Ubuntu's more than just Debian with Unity, I'm okay with it calling it something else because it is. It's Debian based, but not just Debian. All these other *buntus on the other hand are just the same Ubuntu with a new DE, it's moronic
>>53555775
I think that we're on to some comedy gold here.
Can you start a new thread where you explain your views on this matter in detail, so that the whole board can laugh at you?
>>53555794
Nah, I'm going to bed pretty soon. What detail is needed? Debian is a distro, Gentoo is a distro, Angström is a distro, Kubuntu is just Ubuntu BUT HEY WE MADE IT LOOK DIFFERENT
KDE might be good if I had an Android, but GNOME is better for my iPhone.
>>53552372
>mfw triggered
>>53555703
>Well I'm >>53555441 and the only thing that offended me was
>your inability to grammar.
>inability to grammar
I may be terrible at English, but, considering the apparent importance of grammar, shouldn't there be a verb there? Something akin to “use” or “utilize”?
I like my terminal, pls no bully
:(
>>53555833
This is my first post in this thread, and I understand what you are saying. You're saying that we don't need 100000000 ubuntu spinoffs where the only difference is preinstalled packages, it's just repacking the same distro over and over again.
But since this KDE Neon distro is being packaged by the KDE project themselves, I would give it a pass since it's not just some random schmuck packing it and calling it a day. Also, the only alternative to getting Ubuntu with only KDE would be to do a netinstall and install the KDE packages afterwards, which does go against the 'beginner friendly' mantra that Ubuntu and KDE seem to possess.
>>53555833
You know those people who ironically post Stallman copypasta in every thread?
You're the version of them that does it unironically.
>I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Kubuntu, is in fact, Ubuntu/KDE, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Ubuntu plus KDE. Kubuntu is not a distro unto itself, but rather another packaging of the Ubuntu software made useful by the KDE frameworks, applications and desktop environment comprising a full OS as defined by Canonical.
>>53555775
You claim that it's moronic but you hardly provide any reasoning on why it should be considered a bad thing
but I am
>>53555901
Except I don't bitch at every single person who uses one of the Ubuntu spinoffs in every thread I could possibly find them in, I was just saying great, another when someone mentioned KDE was making one.
>>53555944
it really does look terrible
>>53555946
But it actually is great.
It reduces the burden on end users, and makes it easier for users to get an up-to-date and working system.
That's great.
>>53555995
That is great, but don't go classifying it as a separate distro.
>>53555863
>implying you don't understand it in context
:)
If you are going to try to bring people into a desktop environment, try doing your own thing. KDE currently looks extremely lazy, just like Windows 10. Slapping flat colors together isn't changing anything, isn't selling it. Do your own thing. Break the rules. Give people an actual reason to use your product because everyone else is doing the same fucking thing.
>>53556095
This post brought to us by: GNOME and Unity, the unique desktop environments for a brighter tomorrow.
>>53556116
"Synergy"
"The Cloud"
"Quad Core"
"The Net"
"AI"
"Minecraft"
"Facebook"
"Neural Networks"
"Coding"
"60fps"
"Next-Gen"
"Intel I7"
"AMOLED"
"Steve Jobs"
All these things and more, in your pocket with GNOME™
>>53555769
I don't understand this post at all.
>>53556189
>no "Internet of Things"
dropped
>>53556206
I get angry at things
>>53556246
We do a nice ad targeting service though, words spoken throughout your working day, are then used to tailor your ad preferences directly for you!
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>>53556214
>>53556246
wrong guy :(
>>53556116
I said nothing about GNOME or Unity. I don't use them.
>>53555386
Only Neon Unstable is available atm though
>>53557544
Irrelevant
Tried it quite a few times.
Old computer couldn't even handle it well. It was a Phenom II x4 955 with a 6850HD and 6gb of RAM. I don't know why.
Newer computer handles it properly, but it's not really that amazing either. I'm wondering if you can make it function similarly to OSX, with the mission control and all that jazz. It seems like the kind of system that has terrible defaults but can be put through some real customization and that's what I would need.
Because Cinnamon is fantastic
>>53557665
It's okay but lacks features
>>53552372
Because I'm allergic to systemdicks.
>>53555944
Try "Hide Caption Titlebar Plus" addon.
Lumina is basically a rewrite of KDE. It is a bit of a mix between KDE3 and KDE4. It not only doesn't depend on systemd, but also doesn't depend on any utilities like dbus, hal, etc., making it lighter and more portable.
Anyone who actually like KDE is using Lumina, not current KDE.
>>53552372
delete those pictures you sick fuck
>>53552372
Because i use the superior DE, GNOME Shell.
KDE is still really nice though, better than both OSX and Windows for sure.
because I am using cinnamon nigga
>>53559141
Can you even move your top panel?
>>53559153
Why would i need to? It's perfectly fine at top.
There is this if you want to though https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/949/bottompanel/
>>53559141
kek
>>53559362
>Enslaved by gtk
>Doesn't have the freedom to re position a panel
>>53559384
>Not being bloated with unnecessary features
>Having an extension system to optionally allow it for people who want to.
Open source doesn't mean it matches what you want exactly. It just means you can make it so if you wish.
>>53559362
"You're going to have to install firefox just so you can customize your desktop environment"
Ok
>>53559414
>Calling features unnecessary
This is what GNOME slavery made people think into
>>53559414
GTK is a bug collection attached to a graphics toolkit.
>>53559443
It's not relevant to me, but if you want it, you are free to install an extension. GNOME shouldn't try to include everything a user possibly needs.
>>53559457
At least it has full support for Wayland and other modern technologies. Also it looks nicer as most programs are written in GTK.
>>53559582
Qt also has support for wayland "and other technologies" (which literally nobody in the world uses, wow who cares). Also there's no good-looking gtk program, unlike qt programs.
But then, nothing less expected of a gtkfag: all they care about is looks. The fact that tabs haven't worked correctly since 2004 in gtk programs and that bug has been literally ported to gtk3? Lol who cares about that! Function is for losers!
You wanna sell me KDE, tell me:
Does it have smooth animations? I care about that. Yes, I care about that.
>>53559775
yeah unless you are poor as fuck
>>53559792
How poor though?
I use a 280x for instance. Does KDE care about the GPU at all?
>>53559811
Even a 8600GTS is overkill.
Because I prefer bspwm
>>53559811
Yes, it uses OpenGL for its compositor (it can use xrender as a slow fallback). It ran fine for me on a Radeon 5450 on an old laptop. I can't imagine it would run bad on any modern rig.
>>53559847
Even modern integrated are much more than enough nowadays.
>>53559861
I dunno even my Skylake integrated graphics seem to struggle pushing a 4k display in Windows 10 sometimes.
>somehow the gnome devs managed to make GTK3's file picker dialog even worse
>>53559884
>4K
Wouldn't know about that, I only have a 1080p display. Upgrade soon (tm).
>>53559910
Wish you luck, the difference is huge. I can't even look at a 1080p monitor without being disgusted now
>>53555775
Not really since its just ubuntu with the first letter of whatever DE it ships with. They may have DE specific tweaks but there is nothing wrong with the naming
>>53555739
Debian doesn't have PPA
>>53559442
>Literally a link in the description for manual installation.
>>53559641
How are tabs not working correctly?
They work fine for me.
>>53560186
t. lennart
>Plasma has crashed
>>53552372
not a fan of c++, i might just be too stupid to use it but id rather have gtk because it would negate a major benefit of free software if i dont understand the language the software was written in
also, gnome dindu nuffin, not that i use it
>>53554612
Followup: installed
>>53560215
OK lennart.
>>53552372
I just trying something different for a change.
>cinnamon
Still have KDE love in my heart, though.
>>53559906
Meanwhile on the supreme KDE master race land
>>53552372
i do, both on desktop and convertible laptop/tablet (with wacom touchscreen)
works great, looks good, does all i want
been using kde since 3.x days (technically since 1.x but i was mainly on wmaker back then)
>>53552372
because winblows feels so gud, brah.
