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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
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>>53531396
What's the best place to buy a reliable Serial Ultrabay Slim hard drive caddy for a T400?
I don't give a shit if it's a ching chong special, I just need something that isn't a piece of shit. I've read that a lot of the ones from Hong Kong don't even have latches so the only thing keeping the caddy in the ultrabay is the resistance from the SATA/power connectors on the drive.
2nd for Dell is better
loving my x220 so far, had to RMA the first one because bad mobo but they sent me a replacement for free. heres some porn of it. three holes filled.
What are the best settings for trackpoint? Mouse sensitivity, mouse accel on/off, tp touch sensitivity.
>>53532183
ebay? the ones i got were pretty reliable. are
>>53533634
are you using the rubber inserts too?
>>53532183
>All that water
I love my display port, I love my LED display, but that T400 is durable mofo.
Got my i72640+8GB+32GB mSata+360 for 279e and I'm happy as fuck but battery is fucking dead.
Some reliable source of batteries for an europoor ? eBay is nearly desert in terms of lenovo batteries. I would accept good chink batteries too.
>>53534446
forgot the model. t420
where do my fellow britbongs buy their used thinkpads? always a bit wary of ebay to be honest
>>53534661
There's really nothing to worry about as long as your thoroughly read the item description and the seller has really good ratings/is reputable.
I bought a T420 for ~$220 on eBay and it came it practically perfect condition.
What model were you thinking of getting?
>>53534707
same model as your own
>>53534723
That's good because there are usually a lot of T420's being sold. I would recommend you get the 1600x900 res though.
Oops, left my trip on.
Is 403 dollars a good price for a used but refurbished T420? It apparently comes with win 7 pro and ms office.
I've been looking at used thinkpads, I love how they look and the reliability. Coming from a HP computer that has had countless issues I'd relish the chance to have a computer that works and that you can maintain without disassembling the entire thing. A T420 seems to fulfill those needs. What does /g/ think? I'm intending to use it for surfing the web, writing, very light gaming and movies.
Here's the product page http://www.kvalitetsdatorer.se/se/art/lenovo-thinkpad-t420-14-hd-led-4gb-ram-128gb-ssd.php
T`his one has a 128gb ssd heres also one with a 320 gb regular harddrive for the same price. Maybe that one would be a better choice?
>>53535028
Fuck no. Anything over $250 is paying too much.
>>53535362
I understand. I did some more searching and I found some for less. I'm sure I could find some for even less with more research.
Damn you /g/, I was going to buy a tablet but now I want to get a Thinkpad.
>>53535513
Why not both?
>>53534005
The later batch T400s had LED backlit panels iirc
>>53533635
>No thinklight
>No 9 cell
>Heavier
It's the best thinkpad if you draw or write notes by hand but otherwise nah.
>>53533570
Dunno about anyone else or any absolute objective best setting, but after getting my first and only Thinkpad last year and deciding to pop my cherry on its trackpoint, given that I need mouse accel disabled for games, I have that at windows 6/11, and the trackpoint sens is 5/9, which I believe is default, as it's neutral.
at first you feel you're cockblocking yourself by having to wait nearly a second sometimes to move your cursor from one extreme side of the screen to the other, but it's comfy. it's mindless, and comfy. much comfier than a touchpad. but it's not like I've broken down what must be the best settings, or anything. after maxing it I got tired and put it back at default, and I'm still here, at default
I finished a 2 month part-time job and got this out of the storage for free before it was recycled, all working:
3x x220 i7
2x t420s i7
5x t420 i7
6x Docking Station USB3.0
u mad thinkpad fanboys?
>>53536553
nah
Does anyone have an icm color config file for the X230T? I know I'm supposed to follow the ThinkWiki and do get-edid, but it fails for me.
>>53536553
Nah fammo
>>53536553
That's pretty rad anon.
>>53535513
X61T was my first computer, I still like it. :)
>>53535396
>http://www.dankpads.com/2016/02/t420-general-info.html
What's your Thinkpad tier list?
>>53534005
E6400 Guy, what's so special about your particular model when compared to newer latitudes? For example in ThinkPads we have T60/T61 for 4:3 fans, T400-T410 for 16:10, T420 for the old layout, like each model has it's advantages and I wanted to know if such a thing exists in latitudes
>>53537758
The older E6400 has very similar advantages to thinkpads of the same time, 16:10, basically a fullsize keyboard in a laptop and such.
>>53538283
Forgot the name.
>Tfw my x220T touchscreen doesn't even get recognized anymore
What the fuck do I do? I don't want to update drivers because it messes up the wacom stylus.
Quick question;
are these laptops good for coding? Not webpage design or anything.
I'm talking general university projects; should I look elsewhere?
>dGPU for light CAD
>i7U is good enough for most tasks (not rendering ZBrush though)
>great battery life
>FHD screen is pretty good if a tad bit dim
So why does /tpg/ hate it so much?
>>53539194
Becwause if ken kaniff comes on, you can't skip it with the arrow keys and you're fucked.
>>53536553
Are yous selling any of those?
>>53539194
>That keyboard
>>53536553
I am jealous as fuck to be honest. I can't find a x220s with an i7 for any amount of money here in Europe.
>>53539194
Ultrabook CPU?
I don't hate it though, maybe nab one at the end of the year.
>35W dual core is still better than new 15W ULV
When will this stupid meme die?
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html?type=&sort=&deskornote=2&restrict_architecture=&maxTDP=&or=0&search=&month=&benchmark_values=&gpubenchmarks=0&archive=1&dx=&itemselect_6966=6966&itemselect_3084=3084&itemselect_1493=1493&condensed=0&condensed=0&showCount=0&showBars=1&showPercent=0&3dmark06cpu=1&cinebench10_s=1&cinebench10_m=1&cb11_single=1&cb11=1&cinebench_r15_single=1&cinebench_r15_multi=1&wprime_32=1&x264_pass1=1&x264_pass2=1&cpu_fullname=1&codename=0&series=0&l2cache=1&l3cache=1&fsb=0&tdp=1&mhz=1&turbo_mhz=1&cores=1&threads=1&technology=0&architecture=0&64bit=0&daysold=0
How good is an used T530 with a 1600x900 screen, nvidia nvs 5400m, 320GB HDD and a charger for $250 shipped?
>>53540234
very good
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tex-yoda
I WANT
any good T420 deals or better on ebay right now folks?
>>53539920
Yeah, those benchmarks indicate a massive real world difference in usability, famalam.
>>53540234
think my T420 had same specs. got it for $250
>>53540444
>faster
>consumes less power so better battery life
yep, 0 benefit to real world tasks
>>53540485
>at the low, low cost of 4x the price
Question: I live in Venezuela, and people are selling new 2.5" 320GB HDDs at $15. Where do they get those cheap hard drives from? Will my thinkpad explode if I put one of these HDDs in it? $15 sounds absurdly cheap, and one seller has sold over 1600 units.
on a t420, what's the slot for on the underside near the ram?
hey anons,
I might be retarded but I can't figure out how to enter the BIOS on my T420.
If I use the blue thinkvantage button it just enters Windows recovery mode. I also tried ESC, F2. F8, F10, F12 (boot menu) and Delete.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
>>53540796
F1?
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/T420-Cannot-access-BIOS-settings/td-p/582041
Consensus on Dell Precision line? I currently have a T420 that is starting to feel antiquated and was considering an M4800. I got to play with one at my local Microcenter and it seems to be soms serious build quality and yhe heat dissipation is on par as well for the Nvidia quadro and 8 thread i7-4820mq.
I'd be looking at $1600 for
>I7-4820mq
>16gb ddr3 1600mhz
>Nvidia quadro something. Not the worst. (honestly dont really need it. Intel HD would suffice but it comes with the laptop)
>15.6" 1080p matte screen
>1TB hdd and 120gb ssd
>>53541099
why not buy a 7510 or p50 for 1600
>>53541086
thanks anon, that worked!
>>53540664
It's to hold a very small copy of the hardware maintenance manual that shows you everything about it in detail.
>>53541282
kek
not him but seriously what is this magical crevice
>>53541129
Didnt even see that Dell launched the Precision series with 6th gen cpus. Customizing one 7510 with an i7-6820hq, AMD firepro, and 16gb ddr4 2133mhz is just shy of $1600 from their site.
How is Dell business laptops compared to current day Lenovo? Everyone seems to swear modern Lenovo stuff is trash.
Would it be worth the extra $70 to get a Nvidia Quadro 1000m over the firepro? Which has better Linux compatibility?
faggot owners on ebay they raise their own price making buying a ssd a bitch
can they see how much i max bid or they just try until they are the max bidder?
help me /tpg/,
is the T460 good?
>14" Full HD
>8GB RAM
>i5-6200U
>900€
>>53539216
underrated
>>53540485
>better battery life
THEY SHRINK THE BATTERY WITH EACH NEW GENERATION, YOU FUCKING KEK!
>>53541415
P50/70 are great workstations, some of the few competently made 14"+ modern models they've made.
Also, why Linux? These are CAD machines, Autodesk/Adobe don't exist on linux, if you're just gonna use it to shitpost/gayme/lightstuff don't look their way
>>53541549
Safer to wait for reviews to come out; T460p seemed good on paper but shat itself due to massive heat issues and the T460s had a pathetic battery life.
>>53541331
It's for PCI Express Mini Card
Check page 75 from https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t420_t420i_hmm.pdf
>>53541709
>>53541415
M4800 owner here.
It's likely that you'll get a better P50 for $1600 thanks to the insanely good EPP discount. It'll also have a better keyboard than the Dell.
However, the 7510 does come with a better battery option (rated to 1000 cycles) and 3 year NBD onsite warranty as standard, plus the lack of whitelisting on the wireless cards.
>P50/70 are great workstations, some of the few competently made 14"+ modern models they've made.
>Also, why Linux? These are CAD machines, Autodesk/Adobe don't exist on linux, if you're just gonna use it to shitpost/gayme/lightstuff don't look their way
Looking for a machine with greta build quality and an 8 thread CPU because although I intend to do everything you listed, my classes are starting to require multiple VMs to be open at once. Hence why I dont need dedicated gtaphica chipset and would be fine with just intel HD. There doesn't seem to be any laptops in the market with the build quality of these CAD machines, but no dedicated GPU.
Other than something from Sager. But at their price point for no dedicated gpu, $200 more would get me something along the lines of a gtx960/970m inside the same laptop. I use Linux because it serves all my needs and plays nice with my Linux server and other machines in my home. Dont get me wrong though, I intend to dual boot if god forbid my class requires a Windows centric program I dont have to scramble for a suitable Linux version.
Last thing I was considering was getting an i7-2630qm for my T420 but as it sits, my 4 thread i7 hits 80C when under 100% load let alone an 8 thread. Plus the niceties of m.2 ssds, usb 3.0, 1080p screen, etc.
>>53538283
What about the Precision M2400? ktgee guide says that precision is their top tier and latitudes are mid-range.
>>53541876
Avoid it, it's an entry level workstation that's a basically a re-badged E6540.
>>53541908
So Latitudes are real ThinkPads (X/T/W) while Precision and XPS are lower quality ones such as R, L, Edge, etc..?
>>53541944
It's simply a cheap Precision that uses a Latitude chassis.
Like the P40 Yoga is a rebadged Yoga 14/Yoga 460.
>>53538930
>Can you code running Linux?
The answer is yes. If businesses use this for business shit, and probably code work too, then... you figure it out.
Guess what arrived today /g/!
R30 with Windows 2000, 512mb of ram, and a 1ghz Pentium 3.
Cant figure out how to get a 56k modem to connect to the internet with an enthernet cable, maybe im retarded, maybe it just cant do it. Either way its wicked.
Then again, all im using it for is writing G-code and transferring it via 3 .5" floppy disks. (beacuse thats all the old as fuck machines will take for some reason)
>>53542097
>56k modem
>ethernet cable
jesus christ are kids really this fucking retarded
>>53542097
How much did you get it for?
>>53542114
1O dollars
>>53542114
$6.50 (with 20$ shipping, still not that bad for something durable)
>>53542108
It has a port for an ethernet cable, and to be honest, i am pretty fucking retarded with this stuff, my experience with old as shit windows is based on Windows 98, and when i had that computer my mom set it up for me, primarily because i got it when i was 8.
I genuinely think it may just be too old to connect to a router like modern computers, but then again maybe it can and im just not configuring the network right, ive only tried doing so for about 5 minutes and 3 total attempts.
>>53542097
That's not going to work, buddy.
>>>/g/sqt
>>53542097
>Cant figure out how to get a 56k modem to connect to the internet with an enthernet cable,
The modem has nothing to do with ethernet.
>I genuinely think it may just be too old to connect to a router like modern computers
Almost never the case, these things are fully backwards compatible... Unless maybe if you have forced gigabit mode on your router or something retarded, but you would know if you had done that.
>>53542186
i doubt it, but AOL is still a thing, and i have phone lines, maybe i could get a dialup connection just to see if it works
they have free trails too, hell i really should try it out
why is this new checlet keyboard so shit?
Literally can't find a new notebook with normal keyboard but only this 'sinked into yur laptop' shit.
The last keyboard was on the 420 series.
I was looking trough the notebooks today in the shop. Lenovo Ideapad 100 and some Fujitsu Lifebook with same specs, but it was made from such a weak plastic. I was afraid I might break it if I press the cd-tray down too hard. I swear they make these things from UV weak plastic so something will die in it after 3-4 years when they warranty ends.
Saw a Thinpad E560 model with a slightly better plastic case. But it is still shit compared to the T series.
>>53542318
Because of normies and retarded executives who need to "progress" for the sake of progress.
>>53542318
real problem is the fucking 6 row layout not the key caps
>>53542382
Definetly this, I use shift+delete all the time, and my E6400 has all the page up pg down insert buttons in their own group just like my desktop, not in a row like my consumer garbage HP laptop.
>>53542412
thank god someone else understands the real problem here
the new keyboards feel really great which is the sad thing - lenovo did a great job with the feel but totally fucked up the layout
I want a ThinkPad with 1080p but don't wanna spend over $500 jew golds, any recommendations? I have a T420 now, but I want a bigger screen.
>>53542452
Also the new keyboards are really ugly compared to the perfect A E S T H I T I C of the old design
>>53542477
T520
>>53542477
T510 or T520.
>>53542483
>muh aesthetics
fuck off macfag
>>53542452
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads
If only some wizard made a bios mod, then my life would be complete
>>53542522
>still has unusable screens
>>53542520
>Implying Mac has any aesthetic at all
>>53542553
>both have soldered down components
>except Apple took a day to make it look a little nicer
>>53542612
>Latest thinkpad
>>53542483
Did someone say aesthetics?
>>53542715
weebo shit
>>53542715
that japanese kb is aesthetic as fuck
>>53542881
Old version of JP keyboard is better though
>fall for the meme
>these screens look weird
>still use it
>5 months later
>glasses
dont buy thinkpads, even the new ones have shit screens and soldered parts
>>53543007
was your first thinkpad a 2nd generation lenovo by any chance?
like an x100e?
cause theyre shit, buy a t series in 3 digits or go retro like >>53542097
>>53543043
x301
T520 with i7 and 1080p for 330$, good deal?
>>53543252
i'd do it
>>53543252
Yes.
>>53543252
eh, I got a w520 i7 quad and 1080p for 280 a couple weeks ago.
T420s and tea - feels cozy m8s
>>53543689
Mmm, I gotta take a comfy pic next time I'm out with the old notebook.
what distro is the comfiest for someone that has used windows a lot?
I need the ultimate comfy thinkpad experience guise
>>53543689
so cosy m8
>>53543716
xfce is super cozy.
>>53543745
youre using windows with the default bloat thinkpad battery manager you poser
>>53543765
>Superfish
>Bios whitelisting
>Macfag like cult
I love lenovo but goddamn it.
>>53543765
BTFO >>53543689
>>53543765
um, that's BatteryBar. It's not the default.
And yeah I like W10. I'm not saying it's better than linux or anything, I just personally prefer it. No need to freak out about it.
>>53543829
then don't say xfce is super cozy if youre using windows you idiot
>>53543889
...What? I can't have opinions on linux distros if I personally use Windows? Are you serious?
What kind of autistic reasoning is that? Do you even have two neurons to rub together in that peabrain of yours?
The guy asked for a distro recc. I suggested the best DE I've tried, and I've tried a few.
Seriously, who do you think the idiot is here? Personally I think it's the guy who assumes he knows everything from one image.
>>53543929
you have fallen for the bait my friend
>>53543948
Welp
Shit
>>53543716
Simple, stable Debian. It should come with xfce.
>>53543929
Not sure if you're new here, but theres a vocal minority of *literally* autistic/asperger's people. /g/ is the only place they can have their opinions about tech heard. Just ignore them
Can anyone recommend the newest line of dell business/workstation lappys?
Or is something shit with them that you may not expect like the surfacebook and its problems. Maybe P50 is better?
Hi /tpg/, can I have your comfiest thinkpad pictures?
Thank
>>53544579
Enjoy.
>>53544464
pretty good machines, afaik they don't pull the whitelisting bullshit either
>>53531396
My screen on my x220 was going out, so I replaced it with the screen from my old x220 that had graphics card problems. The pixels on my replacement screen are much brighter at the bottom. Does anyone know how to fix this or why it's happening?
>>53544632
that escalated quickly
before
>>53545090
after
Only "downgrades" from the X301 are no more SSD, and shitty 1366 x 768 meme resolution
But god damn I hit the ebay lottery, this thing is in fucking mint condition.
>>53545127
Nice!
Good to see someone else hitting the eBay lotto too. Mine came like new.
>>53545151
I was skeptical buying from a "recycling" shop off ebay, but they really came through.
>>53545127
>chia bars
>go pro
>sunglasses reflecting at you
>vape liquid
Come on dude, really?
>>53545191
here, have a reply
>>53545191
If your gonna go dudebro, might as well go all out
Can I replace my 1024X768 Thinkpad T60 screen with a higher resolution screen? Some T60s came with a bigger resolution, and I think all T61s use 1280x1024 resolution.
Can I just buy a better screen from ebay and install it on my thinkpad? Will it work?
I'm seriously considering using this old beast over my newer laptop but the poor resolution makes it less useable. I just fucking love the design and apart form the screen, everything about it. It's old, but with Arch, a light wm and an SSD it's so useable.
>>53545429
Don't think it's likely to happen. Unless you find one of the 1400x1050 screens which is the same size. Anything higher and it's almost a full inch bigger than the bezel.
>>53545429
Yes, it really is just a panel swap. You have to be careful though and make sure you're getting the right panel for your T60. Obviously if you go and buy a 15" panel and you have a 14" model, it's not gonna work. Use Lelnovo's site to check FRUs for the screen you want. If you've got a 15" T60, you're in luck. You can upgrade up to 1600x1200 IPS, but good luck finding a genuine one for any reasonable price. 1400x1050 IPS or compatible TN 1600x1200 screens are more readily available if you're willing to compromise. I went with the latter and I can't say I'm disappointed. It's not any worse than the stock 1024x768 was.
If you've got a 14" model, your upgrade is a bit less impressive. 1400x1050 TN is the best you can do, but that'll still go a long way towards improving usability.
You should also look into the T601F Frankenpad project. It's a bit more than your average babby's first screwdriver upgrade, but it's well worth the effort. A word of advice if you go for it: don't bother with Nvidia boards. Besides the well-known timebomb issue, the GPU runs hot as fuck, kills your battery life, and my Linux experience with it was nothing but shit. I swapped it for an Intel board and got an Advanced Dock with an R7 240 to suit my graphix demands instead and couldn't be happier. This baby outperforms my Nvidia T420 in all but the most CPU-intensive vidya I've got.
How do I save battery on Linux? On Windows I could spend like 4 hours on aegisub and still have 25% to spare, but on Linux with tlp and powertop I still can't make it past 4 and a half hours.
>>53545924
What model memepad do you have?
>>53545920
Thanks. I've got the 14" one. 1400x1050 is still good. It doesn't need to have superb contrast or anything, I'm not picky like that. I just want more text to fit in my screen.
>>53542715
look at that cutie spacebar
>>53542612
None of those look soldered at all..
>>53543068
Read the sticky next time. All x-series have soldered processors. The ram is still swappable though. There are great screens available, you just have to do your homework.
Thining of getting a used t450s i7 1920x1080 with 250GB ssd and 8GB ram for $750.
Is it a good deal? It's my first laptop and I want it to last, I want it to be somewhat presentable in class.
>>53546252
sounds like a bad deal to me
http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_us/laptops/#facet-1=1,2,3,4&facet-3=14&facet-5=4
>>53546299
I don't see a t450s anywhere on that page, no i7s either.
>>53546013
X230T.
>>53546299
>http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_us/laptops/#facet-1=1,2,3,4&facet-3=14&facet-5=4
why do they cost so much? are they that much better than a T420?
legit question. just w
>>53539920
Christ almighty, nigger, tinyURL that shit.
>>53545127
>Xubuntu
Hell yeah.
>>53546800
They're newer, thats it. For a facebook machine, there's been no substantial increase since t400, arguably the t60 works just as well.
>>53546978
well I like to run linux. but i like windows for diablo 3 and netflix. but netflix i can handle on google chrome.. it's just the app has better quality
which was why I was wondering I guess. but my t420 has 1600x900 and low keynvdia
>>53547026
The t440 isn't going to have any noticeable performance increase for what youre doing. If you want a step up, you should consider a t520 for the 1920x1080 screen. You could get one for 200-250, most of which you would recoup by selling your t420.
>>53547058
i'll look into it;got mine for 250 but I was in a rush. also upgraded the ram and put in an ssd myself. i am happy with mine . but i need a new one for my daughter . so i am down for a little upgrade
>>53547026
>Netflix
Runs just fine in Chrome on linux, just an FYI.
>>53547100
Yeah I use that. it just doesn't work as well as windows app. not to sound lame. just more screen tearing etc
>>53547110
>screen tearing
Use a compositing window manager like compiz.
>>53547130
yeah even on cinnamon. it's not horrible. i'm just saying. it gets the random tear. and if i use xfce i use compton
>>53547161
Hmm, odd
I have a laptop with Nvidia Optimus, I just decided to live with the tearing. It's supposed to get fixed in kernel 4.5.
What's the cheapest thinkpad with a 1920x1080 IPS display?
Best OS for my x230 tablet?
>>53547344
Windows 7/8.1/10
>>53547344
TempleOS
>>53547409
>>53547404
Reasons?
250G SSD for T420 for 80 dollars, should i?
>>53547571
That sounds about right, I paid 59 bucks for a 128GB.
>>53547344
Can someone answer this legitimately with reasons
>>53547667
Windows- great for video editing and creative stuff
Linux of any kind, I use Xubuntu- Lightweight, stable OS great for basic work and internet browsing.
>>53547344
I think that OSs are mostly independent of hardware nowadays, so it should just be based on what you prefer. I'm running Arch but I don't recommend it for Linux beginners. It requires quite a time investment and there's no real notable benefit for the average user IMO.
>>53542715
backlight looks like shit senpai
>>53547667
TempleOS has best support, some might even save its support is divine.
>>53547728
Also vouching for Xubuntu, its a great OS even for someone newer with Linux, and I have had less problems with it than Mint. Plus its lightweight as hell, which was pretty nice on my X301 and now on my T420.
Does the X220 have a known problem with shit disk IO speeds, or is it the LUKS that's killing my performance?
Guy trying to sell this
Lenovo T420 laptop$350 reserve
2x '70+' 57Wh batteries
Core i5 2520M, 8GB DDR3 (2x4GB)
120GB Sandisk mSATA SSD, 500GB Seagate SSHD
DVD drive, 1600x900 widescreen matte LCD
USB3 (1 port) Expresscard included, built in SD card reader
Its aud. I am going to gets some pics off him.
What you think. I dont really need it but my friend is in need of one
>>53541641
Its a shame that the T430 I had can game better than the T440p, so retarded, both had integrated graphics, but the T440p has better battery life, yet still it lags for some shit with 4GB RAM.
>>53541944
I wouldn't say so, kind of like the the W5xx is basically a T5xx but with a slightly better GPU and base processor options.
W70x were a complete different design compared to the T series.
Otherwise most precisions are top grade, hell get a Covet edition Precision if you are lucky, lol.
>>53542097
Probably a driver error.
Those machines are a bitch, just buy a wireless card, sucks you will probably pay twice of what you paid for that thing tho, kek.
>>53542477
Z61p
Man these refurb Thinkpads are great values...
>>53546252
You might be able to get it for less, but if you are in the need for one 'now' then nab it,
I personally don't know how it feels but, I disliked the X1C3 but I did like the T440p... though it a shit compared to my T430s
>not just going full baka like pic related
>>53548772
>What looks to be an untouched stock thinkpad with a 900p screen
Hnnnng,
>>53548784
I was going to buy a Samsung 850 for it however since I will be giving it to some poor bastard in a few months I decided to keep it stock.
>>53548815
That's what I've don,e I have an E6400 with integrated gpu that is my main bitch with an SSD, and a specced up E6400 in stock condition that I keep covered with a pillow case under my desk, I whip it out to cycle the battery once in a while.
Anyone have experience with running Windows 7, 8 and 10 on an X220? Is Windows 10 slower than the others?
When is the best time to buy new Thinkpad?
I missed the last sale.
>X220/X230 and T420/T430 all have only one drive port
JUST
I was hoping to expand too.
I think I'm going to get an X220, does this seem worthwhile?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i5-2-60Ghz-Premium-IPS-Display-8GB-WebCam-320GB-7200-/141745083584
>>53547344
I use dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu on my X220T. Just works great.
>got tech-illiterate housemate a T420 two weeks ago before I went on vacation
>get back and she's been loving it
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>>53549713
wife her
Installing debian on a X200s, i have the iwlwifi firmware, but when the install is asking for them (on a usb stick) it doesn't recognize them, is there something special i need to do?
>>53549908
free your wifi ;)
But srsly just use ethernet to install, add nonfree sources and apt-get install that fucker
>>53539920
Look at the multicore scores, the 35Watt processor kills em
what am i missing and where i can find them on ebay?
>>53550455
you can find them on your screen
>>53549120
Just lurk ebay and buy from credible sellers
Buying wholesale refurbs aren't as value as bidding for auctions
>>53550455
Buy a new keyboard bezel, it's a well known issue with the X220t
>>53550641
nothing on my screen
just two holes
>>53550672
I got same problem with my x230t.
>>53550455
Those are for small rubber/plastic things that locks your screens rotation when it is laying on your keyboard. Works on screen turned either way. They got to little holes both sides of the screen.
Whats the general consensus on the yogas, besides
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES
Obviously, it's going to be less robust than the equivalent T-series, but then on the other hand, a T450s would cost me 1000€, whereas a Yoga14 runs at around 500€, and according to various reviews, those are
>business ultrabooks!!!!
>business tablets!!!!
>typical thinkpad look that you consumers love to hate!!!!!
>typical thinkpad robustness and keyboards!!!!!
which sounds kinda ok.
Reason I am asking, besides 500€ cheaper, is the following:
I'm working with a lot of scientific articles, and those are all portrait A4, with small letters and two columns. So reading them on a landscape monitor totally sucks, because you constantly have to scroll back and forth.
And reading them on a small, tablet only tablet, also sucks, because you still have to scroll back and forth.
But on a 14" tablet, that seems workable! Especially when you have a pen, for annotating them. But do you actually have a pen?
Some Yogas seem to have one, some dont? The one I am looking at, the seller says the display supports a pen, but there is none in the box. So what is it? And amazon is full of thinkpad pens, where the reviews are 50% folks saying "works fine, other idiots cant read!", and 50% folks saying "0 stars, doesnt work", but non of the fucking pens says which models (the full number, not just "thinkpad yoga" they are meant to be used with).
Also, can I stuff 16GB of ram into one slot, or will the bios not accept it?
Anyone here own an x250. I just bought one new. I5 5200u 8gb 256ssd 1080p IPS. Got it for 1100 aud, 800 off with student discount. Couldn't really find anything better for the price.
I will be buying a Thinkpad. It will be my very first laptop. The problem is that I also want to be able to play games instead of just working on it. Does anyone have recommendations? I am interested in T450s but it is legit expensive even refurbished.
What's the best SSD for my new dankpad t420blazeit? Should I go mSATA slot or 2.5"+ultrabay slot?
>>53552253
What gaymes? Modern iGPUs should be able to handle anything pre 2010 and might be able to run modern vidya at low settings with decent frames, assuming decently optimized
Also if you bought your laptop primarily for gaymen you should first set your priorities straight
T61p for 80cad$(60usd$)
>core 2 duo
>2gb ram
Is it a good deal?
I will meet the seller since its on kijiji
>>53552253
Buy a desktop if you want to play games. Even if you want a thinkpad, you are better off getting a 200ish dollar thinkpad and a 600-700 dollar desktop.
Bump, because I still want to know what /tpg/ thinks aobut the yogas
>>53551644
>>53552668
Yea, I got a gaming laptop, and a good one at that (I7 4720HQ, 970M 6GB, etc) and I really just wish I had gone for a desktop + Thinkpad combo. Will probably sell it for upgrades on one of my desktops to get it up to gaming spec and keep the T420 for classes.
>>53550064
Hey, thanks i did this!
>installed via ethernet
>added non-free repo
>installed firmware-iwlwifi
When i reboot now, at the bios, the x200s reset and restart ; basically i can't launch debian ; what should i do ? :( halp
>>53553777
You may need to install/fix/reinstall grub. I don't think you installing your wifi firmware had anything to do with it.
You may have already done this,but check your BIOS and make sure that your boot order includes your hard drive. Unplug all USBs too.
>>53553828
oh right i forgot that sdcard i tried to put the firmware on from before! thanks!
i think i was confused because usually computer tells you when you try to boot on a non bootable media, here it just reset, which is really wierd, because if you're running in a loop
>>53553941
Excellent.
>>53551644
Get the Yoga, they aren't that bad.
I liked the Yoga 11e, despite it not having a trackpoint it was a much better device than the X140e and they were at the same price point.
Twist was another story (S230u), it was an underperformer with its underclocked 3rd gen i5...
Get a Yoga with a digitizer slot, otherwise they aren't made for that shit.
Also careful on buying an ideapad yoga and thinkpad yoga, though both are similar one will be a bit thicker.
I like the P40 Yoga but I am not sure if it will be my replacement for my X61T...
>>53551992
IMO thats a good price, you got warranty and shit so you should be fine for awhile.
Not many haswell/braodlel owners in /tpg/ maybe about 20...
Going shopping for an X220 soon. What should I be looking out for/avoid?
>>53552551
Bumping for an anwser please. Also should I wait and buy a x220 for like 160$ of ebay?
>>53554186
T61p is okay if you like doing light stuff on a 4:3 screen
>>53554097
>Get a Yoga with a digitizer slot, otherwise they aren't made for that shit.
By digitizer slot you mean a slot for the pen in the body? So that are the 12" ones exclusively?
Just got a mail back from the seller, and the machine I wanted does indeed not have a digitizer. But why would anyone want a table that is not an ios/android toy without a pen?
Oh well, back to waiting for the T450s prices to drop below the edu prices for the T460s, or waiting for linux compatibility for the T460s
>>53554234
Not all T61ps are 4:3, some are widescreen.
>>53554186
If you're not sold on 4:3 for retro cool factor, you're better off buying something newer. Also, the GPU's a time bomb unless the board is manufactured 8/08 or later.
>>53554097
Don't buy the P40Y, buy the TP Yoga 14 from Best Buy, it's the same thing.
need yalls help for a sec
on my t400, I got debian installed.
I want to switch to arch, but in the install process the only drive that its letting me partition is my usb drive, which is holding the arch iso.
So, i'm assuming I could have an easier time installing arch if I format my primary hard drive. I remember a anon telling me before about a program "Hirens Boot" that can help with setup issues. Do any of you guys know if I can format the hard drive with the Hirens Boot program? or am I just dumb
>>53555390
literally just figured it out. completely ignore my autism
thanks guys
Is the best way to convert my t420's cd drive into a small drawer to just buy a harddrive enclosure for it and try to hollow that out?
>>53551644
I'd say that as long as it has the thinkpad branding and the specs that come along with it (Mg roll cage, no Superfish BS, trackpoint) then they are worth it in some configurations if you need/want something newer/more powerful.
>>53554275
Thinkpad yoga 460 (Essentially a rebadge of the P40) is 14", has an integrated active wacom digitizer w/ pen, and has dGPU (940m). I'm actually picking mine up tomorrow. Is has shit color Gamut and is ~4lbs, but i don't give a shit if it's ~$900 for all that.
>>53555426
Figured it out myself :3 Thread Closed
>>53552550
Sorry for answering this late. Now that I read most of the replies I am honestly sure that it's the best to buy a refurbished Thinkpad and a desktop just as >>53552668 said.
As for gaming I forgot to mention I only wanted it to be able to play decent games. Also my priority is working, not gaming.
>>53556179
My x230t plays Rocket League just fine so you should be good.
Guys, does anyone play Path of Exile here on their thinkpad?
I've been trying to pick a laptop to buy for past week and I still can't decide.
I want a nice IPS display and I also want to be able to log on to PoE once in a while to check on things and play for maybe 30min-1hr.
Help please?
>>53554234
The T60p is infinitely more reliable and not appreciably slower in the grand scheme of things.
What do you guys use your express card slots for?
>>53554363
How can I know about the gpu? From the cpu numbers ?
>>53556443
Can it run blender just fine and obs?
>>53556427
just get a X220
It can handle most games circa 2013 and before albeit at low settings
>>53556525
blender werks on my 15" T61p running mint with the housefire gpu, albeit a bit slow
>>53556667
So im better to grab a better TP? Like the x220 ?
>>53556759
depends on whether you care about screen size and resolution
anyone have a docking station? would it be better to get the one compatible for my T530 or some universal one?
>>53556867
>buying usb docks
>>53556443
T60p is housefire GPU.
You can mitigate this with power saving mode on XP/Win7 (with modded CCC install) which halves the GPU clock speed. I don't think this is possible under Linux but I'd love to be proven wrong.
Underclocking with either RMClock or PHC is also a boon in Windows and Linux, respectively. It reduces the load on the cooling system as a whole and improves battery life.
You're right of course that the difference between the two is negligible in the real-world light mobile computing application of either.
>>53556525
I think you can look at the last 4 digits of the s/n. I avoided the issue altogether and got an integrated graphics T61 for my T601F build.
Is there any marked difference in performance and battery life for an average user between the i5 2.6GHZ X220 and the i7 X220?
>>53557071
You could also swap in the T500 heatsink to make things better.
>>53557279
USB 3 with the i7 model is quite nice.
First time today I tried T530. The chicklet keyboard is abysmal. It's Acer tier.
Seems to me I will be using X201 for the rest of my life.
Don't want to upgrade to X220 because 16:9.
>>53557360
>tfw still using my 16:10 Mac pro cinema display, the fuck huge plasma one, from ~2005
16:10 will never die!
>>53557360
>The chicklet keyboard is abysmal. It's Acer tier.
The feel or the layout
>>53557404
The feel. It's terrible to write. So much typos all the time.
Maybe you get used to it.
>>53557392
>plasma display
the fuck are you talking about
>>53557426
Sounds like you got a worn out keyboard, every TP keyboard feels like shit if it's heavily used
>>53557359
That's about it?
The i5 models don't have USB 3?
Well, that might actually be a deal breaker then.
>>53558118
Expresscards are dirt cheap..
>>53558118
You can get expresscard 54 to 3 USB type 3 ports
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/memory-DDR3/CT8G3S160BM?gclid=Cj0KEQjwzq63BRCrtIuGjImRoIIBEiQAGLHdYaDd_jLOxBJXFhKtF5VXS_zsU8y4-IQBOQCwXpEqLcYaAsyw8P8HAQ&cm_mmc=shopping-_-google-_-null-_-us&ef_id=Vsc-KgAABBiq@qxq:20160318205951:s
Will this work on a thinkpad t420? I'm a click away from buying.
>>53559367
Yeah it'll work, it's standard spec DDR3 SO-DIMMs.
How easy/expensive is it to upgrade to an i7 from an i5. For a T520.
How suitable is the T420 for tibetan amphibian analysis animations? Although I'm primarily intending to use it as an htpc, I would also like for the display to be at least decent enough for my degenerate cartoons during the rare occasions where I stumble out of my NEET hovel into the menacing outdoors.
>>53559464
chance to fuck up your whole system = 70%
>>53559477
oh, yeah fuck that. thanks.
>>53540595
south american vendors often get their wares sent from north america if whatever theyre selling isnt edible, an the people from NAwho have families who sell in SA getthe waresfrom various places. Those selling HDD prolly were picked off from junk piles
Perufag here (Except first gen born in cali)
>>53559472
For that range of price, the best you can do.
Pick the 900p one senpai.
>>53559477
>>53559489
>literally swapping cpu out of a socket
don't offer advice if it's bullshit
I'm in the market x220 Tablet. (possibly none tablet)
I'm curious if there is a significant difference between the i7 and i5 concerning power, heat and power consumption.
Also I would love to hear any opinions on Tablet or no. OG has more battery life, but part of my uses for this machine is note taking involving lots of diagrams and DMing, so the touch screen has its uses for me.
Also, according to the Lenovo datasheets, only the Tablet has Bluetooth? Can anyone verify that?
