>This is what windows users actually put up with in 2016
Agreed firefox needs to die
I don't get it, windows defrags in the background.
>>53511740
>26% disk fragmentation
>>53511767
its pretty bad at doing it
>>53511771
It helps to leave it enabled after you install some stupid 3rd party program.
>>53511740
>doesn't have an ssd
>>53511767
>My OS puts undue wear on HDD in the background because its file system sucks.
Windows users in 2016 everyone.
>>53511787
it is on, its been on, it hasn't done shit
>>53511807
>last run
>over a fucking year ago
>>53511740
No it isn't. Windows runs it in the background without the user having to do anything.
You're the autistic retard who actually downloaded a third party program.
>2016
>defragmentation
kek
>>53511831
>implying it has ever worked
>>53511831
>runs it in the background
>still marks 26% fragmented
lol
>>53511795
No amount of money can fix a modern OS with a filesystem straight out of the 90s.
>>53511852
this
why can't windows use EXT4? it never needs defragmentation
>>53511807
It isn't going to run when the computer is off. And no, saying you leave the machine on 24/7 is not going to work.
>>53511881
Might as well use Linux if you're going EXT4.
>>53511886
of course I don't leave my computer on 24/7
oh but windows default is defragging every wednesday at 1am?
wow who the fuck is up at 1am? fucking useless if its running that early, and thats default
>>53511881
Because fragmentation hasn't been an issue since XP.
REFS is the next windows filesystem anyways.
>>53511886
>windows users have to leave their computers on just to get their system defragged to avoid stupid bullshit like this
>>53511903
you're on 4chan faggot. you're definitely up at that time, don't even try and pretend
it's 1:21am right now over here.
>>53511908
>it hasn't been an issue
its the file system numb nuts, windows still uses NTFS, Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 and 10 all use NTFS and will all suffer the slow read and write speeds because of fragmentation.
>REFS is the next windows file system
and not even windows 10 uses it
>>53511924
>its 1:21 am
go to bed britbong
look at my clock its only 9:21, I'm going to bed in a half an hour
>>53511913
>linux users
>in charge of reading comprehension
JUST
>>53511740
>win7
>The current year
lomo
>>53511927
Of course everything still uses NTFS, because as much as autists like you spout shit, it works just fine.
I should have clarified that isn't a big deal anymore because people aren't running garbage slow 5400 rpm drives anymore for their OS.
>>53511740
>Firecuck
>Steam
>running OS on HDD
>>53511987
>it works just fine.
>26% fragmentation
>it just works
>its not a big deal
except for having a quarter of my drive completely out of wack
>>53511987
>you're autistic if you have problems with defragmentation
/g/ everyone
>>53511903
>wow who the fuck is up at 1am
Lots of people. Not everyone's 80
>>53512006
Again, you couldn't be bothered to look at the settings for auto defrag, so who the fuck is the idiot? It's not like you are going to notice a difference. If you are on some garbage slow laptop drive it's going to remain slow.
>>53512006
It's not a big deal because nobody sane uses hard drives for their fucking OS. A problem affecting couple idiots or poor people is just not a big deal unless you're a member of one of the groups.
>>53512002
And what browser do you suggest anon? I bet it's Chromium based
>>53512024
>Again, you couldn't be bothered to look at the settings for auto defrag,
its been the default Wednesday at 1am, everyone's initial install of any windows OS is Wednesday at 1am.
>you're not going to notice the difference
except it taking 30 seconds for my computer to boot and get to desktop
>>53512030
>no one sane uses HDD's for their OS
yes they do, SSD's aren't wide spread enough yet I guarantee you at least 90% of the computer market still uses HDD's for their OS's despite laptop manufacturers pushing SSD's they're still expensive as fuck relative to HDD's
>>53512024
>you won't notice a difference whether your drive is fragmented heavily or not
are you fucking stupid? I maintain a whole rack of servers that needs to be defragged at least once a month just to stay fast because windows server 2008 R2 suffers so much read/write hit because of it
>>53512054
Obviously.
>>53512060
A huge part of the computer market uses shitty 1378 x 768 or 1080p screens too, again either idiots or poor people. Your computer experience will suck if that's the case, whether Winshit fucks your shitty harddrive or not.
>>53512081
Those servers are always on, which means they are auto defragging themselves.
>>53512060
30 second difference means your hard drive is garbage tier, no amount of defragmentation will fix that slowness.
>>53512117
>Obviously.
>>53512117
>A huge part of the computer market uses shitty 1378 x 768 or 1080p screens too, again either idiots or poor people.
>they don't count because they're poor or don't have SSD's to prove my point
no you're just retarded
>>53512119
>Those servers are always on, which means they are auto defragging themselves.
except I still have to manually start the process because they never actually defrag themselves, I don't know why Microsoft's defrag tool is even there, it doesn't do anything and I have no log of Services ever deploying a defrag job.
Hell when I put in the server, people complained about 9 months later "hey our scheduled processes are running really slow!" lo' and behold fragmentation out the ass and after defragging the performance got back to normal again. I don't know why windows doesn't automatically do it but the default never actually does happen
>>53512119
>30 second difference means your hard drive is garbage tier, no amount of defragmentation will fix that slowness.
>your drive is crap
>it couldn't possibly be that your drive is fragmented to fuck and back, no thats not it your drive is shit
Its a 1tb hybrid solid state hard drive with a 16gb cache for the SS. I guarantee you its gonna drop the boot time by a huge number
>>53512169
Sounds like you are inept at your job. We are running over 400 servers at my work, 2008 and 2012, high availability public facing and credit card machines and not ONCE have any of them had an issue because of fragmentation.
Sounds like you should stick at being a ticket jockey.
>>53512185
>1TB hybrid
>Trying to look smart
Holy shit its over, you confirmed you are a fucking retard. 30 fucking seconds, you don't even know that is the case which makes it even funnier.
>>53512192
>Sounds like you are inept at your job.
sounds like windows doesn't do what windows says its gonna do. The servers are for a bank and the bank runs and processes their own ACH's. But yea, defragging solved the problem right away
>>53512208
>its because of the SSHD your computer is slow
what the fuck is your post even on about? it doesn't even make sense
>>53511881
>it never needs defragmentation
enjoy your high seek times when reading your scattered files
>if disk gets used up to 80-85%, fragmentation is unavoidable
>>53512185
>he has an SSHD
>>53512237
Linux has better read-write times than windows
>>53512169
Let's make it more simple for you then...
>there is an issue
>it only affects you if you use obsolete hardware
>using obsolete hardware adds tons of other issues
What's the logical step to improve the situation?
>>53512253
>SSHD
>obsolete
these are new within the last few years, theres nothing wrong with using them and they allow for faster read and write access than traditional HDD's. Your entire shitposting brigade is pointless
>>53512269
SSHDs were obsolete since they entered the market. The shit never made any sense beyond presenting ghetto laptops in a better light.
>>53512269
They're shit no matter how you try to shill them. There's absolutely no reason to get one instead of a small SSD and an HDD
>>53512269
I was the original person you were talking to, not the guy above. I laughed because your magical hybrid drive IS the reason, those are garbage and slow. And you don't even know the 30 seconds you said, you just showed that you made it up.
Now go back to your gaming laptop
>>53512301
They're still far cheaper per GB/dollar than SSD's and an adequate upgrade from regular HDD's
So your whole diatribe about how shit and how they're the reason my laptop boots slow is entirely moot
>>53512319
>those are garbage and slow
faster than a regular HDD
>>53512336
Not nearly as fast as an SSD though. Predictive caching works like ass.
>>53512319
>The SSHD is the reason its slow
>not that its 26% fragmentation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBhf8rpobo
>>53511951
Britbong
T
F
O
>>53512362
It works pretty fine and always loads the most used utilities which is almost always the OS itself (if you turn off your computer) and any programs after that that you run most often.
>>53512320
Jesus, you actually bought a laptop with one. I am not sure if to feel sorry or to laugh.
>>53512372
An ideal scenario where predictive caching doesn't shit itself. Defragging alone won't help you.
>>53512209
>windows says its gonna do
It auto defrags mine every week at some day at 3am
>>53512438
>Jesus, you actually bought a laptop with one. I am not sure if to feel sorry or to laugh.
>350gb free on OP's pic
yea because buying a 1tb SSD 1 year ago would have made this laptop jump from 600 dollars to 1600 with all the extra bells and whistles just to include that shit
>its ideal it doesn't count
its proof that you're a fucking retard, it caches the OS first numb nuts
>>53512437
Or you could have total control over what needs the SSD and what doesn't
>>53512030
funny
>>53512484
So get an ample SSD and a 1TB HDD you fucking mong
>>53512491
my laptop doesn't have multiple bays
>>53512521
>laptop
>multiple bays
reading comprehension
>>53512523
>>53512541
You don't have a 2.5" bay and an mPCIe slot? I highly doubt this
>>53512551
I have one bay for the SSHD which is the mSATA controller
>>53512438
>An ideal scenario where predictive caching doesn't shit itself. Defragging alone won't help you.
The predictive caching is done by the hard drives controller, its the same thing as having a regular cache except its really fucking big comparatively, stop spewing nonsense
>>53512597
>I have one bay for the SSHD which is the mSATA controller
Anon, you're fucking retarded.
>>53512630
>I have one bay
>its not an mPCIe, its mSATA
nothing wrong with this, I don't have multiple bays for multiple hard drives in my dinky little 13 inch laptop
>>53512658
mSATA uses the mPCIe slot you fucking dipshit. I bet you've got a free mPCIe slot just waiting for an SSD and instead you've got a failed abortion in your 2.5" bay because you don't know the difference.
>>53512484
A sensible solution would be a 512gb SSD then and learning how to manage your data. Or wasting less money on a shit laptop and getting one with a normal HDD.
>its ideal it doesn't count
Nobody said that. It just means that you can depend on the performance always being at it's ideal, fragmentation or not.
>it caches the OS first
IDEALLY. Given the rest of your posts, I wouldn't be surprised if you managed to fuck it up.
>>53512597
This shit needs learn which files you load the most often, which can be obviously skewed, depending on use.
>>53512693
>msata uses the mpcie
then I only have one and its occupied, I've already been through this before, I only have space for one hard drive, I don't have any actual space for another drive in my laptop
where the fuck am I gonna put this new drive? fucking no where! because the SSHD is occupying the only slot
>>53512720
>This shit needs learn which files you load the most often, which can be obviously skewed, depending on use.
you run it once and it learns, if you use something else more often it'll learn and adapt to that, its completely dynamic
>>53512737
Your laptop only has one mPCIe slot? Fucking trash
>>53512763
for 600 dollars I can't go wrong with a small, sleek, 1080p laptop with a 1tb drive and an Nvidia 640m
it works really well
>>53512737
Let me clarify. mSATA SSDs go in an mPCIe slot, not a 2.5" bay. Why are you here if you don't know the difference. Because you seem to be assuming that you need a 2.5" bay, which is simply not true.
>>53512785
Because I don't need to know the difference to know that my only SSHD occupies my only 2.5 inch hard drive bay in my dinky ass laptop.
I physically don't have space to put this extra SSD with another 1tb drive what is so fucking hard to understand
>>53512775
Clearly. So just quit your bitching already and defrag it. It's not like you're going abandon Windows because MUH VIDYA.
>>53512817
>UR RETARDED FOR GETTING AN SSHD
>its a laptop it really doesn't matter, I needed storage space
>GET A FUCKING SSD AND AN HDD
>I don't have space for it
>YOUR RETARDED YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SLOTS
>no I don't I only have space for one
>YOURE SO FUCKING RETARDED I DOUBT THAT WHOLE HEARTEDLY
>its a 600 dollar 13 inch laptop, I don't have space for a second drive
>WELL STOP BITCHING THEN AND DEFRAG IT CHRIST YOURE RETARDED
>>53512806
>I don't know anything about technology yet here I am on a technology board
>>>/out/
>>53512863
>you're not allowed to be on here for not knowing terms that don't have anything to do with why you can't fit two drives into one space
>>53512847
Obviously you're retarded for getting a shit laptop but that not as easy to change ... so I'd suggest defraging it already.
>>53512873
Every post just further proves your retardation
>>53512888
>gets btfo because two things can't be in the same space at the same time
>well ur retarded so...
the irony is killing me
>>53512903
I'm somehow retarded for telling you I can't put two drives into one space, and you're actually arguing that
>>53512918
You're retarded for thinking I'm telling you to put two drives in one space.
>>53512939
You literally are
how can I fit a 2.5 inch SSD in my only Drive slot along side another 2.5 inch SSHD
please tell me
>>53512946
I've not once said anything about a 2.5" SSD
Thank you for proving how fucking retarded you are.
>>53512965
where is my SSD gonna go then when I only have one slot for one drive which is occupied by a SSHD
I know there are those new bare SSD's that go right in the PCIe but I don't have one of those, so we're still back to
>where am I gonna put two drives if I only have one space for it?
>>53512984
No, where we're at now is
>you bought a shit laptop
>>53512984
I suggest your ass.
The anon probably meant M2
>>53513010
>goal post shifting
>>53513016
>post purchase rationalization
>>53513038
because people look at how many mSATA and mPCIe slots they have when they can kill two birds with one stone and get an SSHD for a compact laptop
>>53513054
>wasting 2'5 with a fat ass hard drive
>compact
Just stop. Defrag your shit and go back to /v/
>>53513054
Because people buy failed abortions to make their purchases halfway decent when they can just not buy a piece of shit laptop
>>53512756
>it'll learn and adapt to that
Resistance is futile
