Why should I install Debian over all others?
It works nicely and it's ridiculously popular.
Nothing else really, what did u expect?
>>53463606
that's the point
you shouldn't
nowadays it respects your freedom more than arch, gentoo and all the other big distros.
Why do I see so many /g/ otakus use debian?
>>53463606
old packages.
apt-get is not that good imo
but install what ever you want. if you want debian than install it.
>>53463606
stable
lack of bloat
top notch package management
easy to install
respects freedom
It's made in India
>>53463797
How does it respect freedom?
>>53463815
Good god
>>53463840
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines
everything that matters (main software repo) is free-as-in-stallman-maybe-even-more in debian.
Debian respects your freedom
>>53463840
latest interaction has removed non-free blobs.
>>53463606
Why should you install ubuntu over debian?
>>53463927
incarnation*
>>53463815
>shaking hands with a pooinloo
Risky business
>>53463606
>Debian
Reminder: This loon ran debian for years.
>>53463975
Name one person who is not questionable
debian shit on cdrtools
fuck debian
>>53463975
Yer because the police have never been known to beat people up before. This guy must be a nut job.
>>53463975
>killed himself
>life went on
>no normie remembers or cares
>the police literary won
there must have been a better way to use his brains and money
>>53463975
Second thought... maybe I shouldn't install Debian.
>>53463963
kek
>>53463840
no non-free software gets installed by the installer, even if you enable non-free repos. This includes drivers and firmware. Unless you explicitly load it from a separate drive. Enabling non-free repos must be explicitly done. IIRC debian uses a linux-libre kernel.
Basically, if you want to install anything that is non-free, it must be done explicitly. The *only* reason its not FSF endorsed is because the installer facilitates the enabling of repositories containing non-free software.
There is no one true definition of free software. In some ways I would appear to be more lax that the FSF (for example I would consider Debian to be 100% freedom respecting), but in some ways I am more strict (I do not think it is okay for hardware to contain proprietary firmware; fsf thinks its okay if the firmware is built into the hardware, but not if its loaded from the hard-drive of the computer. i do not think it is ok at all)
>>53463929
I was a long time Debian user. I first used it (and Ubuntu) back in like 2003. I switched to Linux as my primary OS in 2010, the distro being Debian. I had a few maybe weeks or perhaps a couple months where I might use an Ubuntu flavor as my primary, but Id have spans of years of Debian.
Since Debian switched to systemd, I have lost a lot of respect for it. I have went from encountering practically zero bugs over years period to encountering multiple over days.
My only point is that I now consider Debian and Ubuntu to be extremely similar to each other. To answer your question, Ubuntu has additional software, and makes install proprietary GPU drivers extremely easy
>>53463606
Stable as fuck.
Huge package library.
Debian is good.
Because freedom
OP here
So I just got done installing Debian Jessie
God DAMN this distro is shit
>fish shell not available
>ffmpeg not available
Are you FUCKING kidding me?
>>53465852
ffmpeg and fish are both available in jessie-backports
>>53465852
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ffmpeg
>>53466102
>>53465852
>You are running Debian stable because you prefer the stable Debian tree. It runs great, there is just one problem: The software is a little bit outdated compared to other distributions. That is where backports come in.
>Backports are recompiled packages from testing (mostly) and unstable (in a few cases only, e.g. security updates), so they will run without new libraries (wherever it is possible) on a stable Debian distribution. It is recommended to pick out single backports which fit your needs, and not to use all backports available.
https://wiki.debian.org/Backports
In people born before ~1994 we would consider this level of deficiency in attention span coupled with complete cluelessness about the tech you use a sign of retardation.
>>53463631
/thread
You'll have issues after installing any other OS
>>53466191
>never used Debian
>expect me to know about this "Backports" shit
>I'm the autist
sounds like the OS is so shit they are finding clever ways to sneak in more software
>>53466296
or how about a google search for
"fish shell debian"
it's not that hard you raging autist
>>53466308
>>53466327
>duckduckgo
>whatever other search engine you want
doesn't matter
>>53463606
no one cares what you install, but do yourself a favor and get a live instead of caring what some idiots on the internet think of you
>>53466355
>>53466336
>>53466308
>>53466191
Jesus Christ is this the Debian community?
>>53463606
Are you a time traveler from 2000?
Debian is the OS you want!
>>53466658
Yes, now fuck off.
>>53466296
Learn instead of raging.
Some Debian basic basics:
https://www.debian.org/releases/index.en.html
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-ftparchives
In fact, if you're going to install Debian, you really should read the website because there is a lot of good information there, for example advice on how not to break your system. I don't understand why you would just download something and then start raging.
>>53466658
where where you when jiraiya sempi was kill
stable distro. shit installer. you pretty much have to do a netinstal otherwise it's more bloated than kubuntu
>Infinality not available for Debian
woooooooooow
>>53467721
whats infinality?
sounds like proprietary software if it cant easily be compiled on debian
>>53467721
>reading first line, ignoring all other info.
https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts#Infinality_for_Debian
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=88545&start=45#p597992
I know it was very hard, and literally can't be find nowhere on internets, so please, keep on raging.
>>53463606
It doesn't throw you into the deep end like gentoo, but does force you to learn how2terminal, unlike ubuntu.
It was my first distro when I switched from windows. I had some issues with networking firmware (very confusing for a winbabby) but I gitted gud enough eventually and have never looked back.
If you install now, OP, I'll help you out if you have any trouble and post on this thread.
>>53465852
have you edited sources.list?
>>53466296
>never used Debian
>unwilling to do anything but complain
>>53465852
>>53466658
If you want up to date software upgrade to unstable or testing you absolute dumbass.
It's stable.
>>53463606
>install over all others
>implying all others are installed first
So you can see for yourself why all others are better than debian.
It's very nice. It is my favorite. It is very stable.
>>53463668
Monkey see, monkey do.
>>53472913
Meant to quote >>53463728
>>53463606
Literally no one reccomends debian for desktop use you moron
>>53463606
You shouldn't. What you have to do is download every OS with every different DE and try every single one of them in VMs, and choose the one you like most. Takes time, but it's the only good way to choose wisely. I chose Debian 8.3.0 with Cinnamon because I like Windows 7.
>>53472988
>>>53463606 (OP)
>Literally no one reccomends debian for desktop use you moron
Yes they do lmao.
>>53472988
sure do idiot.
>>53463728
It's sensible. It's essentially the most normal dist.
Red Hat would be the most normal but it's more geared towards implementing infrastructural stuff. Debian is geared more towards conservatism and having lots of packages.
>>53473967
You would be retarded to use a server os on your desktop.
If youre looking for a rock stable distro that you'll never need to reinstall use slackware.
If you use debian as a daily driver you literally don't know shit.
Debian is godly on servers though.
>>53474005
> trolling this much
Yes, I used Slackware as my first dist too back then.
But no, Debian is not an exclusive server dist. It's a general use dist.
>>53463606
you shouldn't, install gentoo
>>53474046
Sure, and you would be retarded to do so.
There's literally not a single reason to put up with apt on a day to day basis. Slackware is better for stability, arch and fedora are better for general usage.
>>53474093
Fedora is not better for general usage. In general, any red hat dist is worse for any environment where the machines are not centrally managed.
Debian is a bit more informal but a buttload more pragmatic and also has much more packages.
You shouldnt
Install devuan instead
>>53474093
>There's literally not a single reason to put up with apt on a day to day basis
the fuck is wrong with apt?
>>53474207
>Debian
>Pragmatic
Ok now i know you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Enjoy your "Customized" packages.
>>53474354
Do more with it than installing random packages and you'll see.
>>53474528
>Do more with it than installing random packages and you'll see.
Like what? Should I be expecting my package manager to also encode video for me?
>>53474670
Try removing your DE. Bonus points if its gnome
>>53463606
Because it's the best OS.
>>53474704
it wants to remove xorg as well, but other than that I don't see the problem.
>>53475027
Thats a problem
>>53475088
sudo apt-mark hold xorg & sudo apt-get remove --purge cinnamon
>>53463606
Stable releases are supported ridiculously long periods. It works fine.
