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Directx 12 Patch on Tomb Raider - No Improvements
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Welp, so much for that "dx12 is gonna change the game in amd's favor!" parole from AMD shills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGqoVtwSNoM
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It's a DX11 game.
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>>53447208
Question is why is it worse in DX12 than DX11?

Shit implementation? No async compute? Every other DX12 games, even ones supported by nVidia like Fable has given performance boost to DX12 in AMD cards. Why is this worse?
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>>>/v/
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>>53447680

Because those are games that do not exist in a fully playable state and this is how things work in reality.

>he fell for the "it g-gets b-better n-next y-year!" amd meme
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>>53447680
It probably just translates 11 to 12 calls. Engines have to be DESIGNED for 12, not monkey patched.
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>>53447208
DX12 has +10 min FPS, which matters a lot. Vulcan is the real deal anyways.
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>>53447680
It's like putting 91 octane in your car designed for 87 octane.
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>>53447925
Hey now some cars, you can force the spark timing simply through a phone app. Some.

I can make use of 89 octane in my POS beater by forcing the timing beyond what the vehicle normally commands.
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>>53447816
Vulkan will be the same exact thing unless they are using a game engine that supports it, graphics card that is able to give full use to the architecture AND developers do more than just a vulkan band aid(tm) over the current api.
We will only see the capabilities of vulkan when a game starts off natively from it instead of dx, so not before 2017 at least.
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>>53448045
But it doesn't improve performance, and in fact will reduce it.
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>>53447208
Its a DX11 games, also you copy-pasted the same image twice... theres no way DX12 has one less FPS. Unless youre some kind of Nvifag
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>>53448075
>raising the timing delay doesn't make use of higher octane
>I don't get better mileage or a 5HP increase for free

Shit nigger, for almost every car it's a matter of the ECU tuning. You could take any car that has a tuneable ECU product available and get it to run on 115 octane blends (mixing toluene/xylene with your 91 pump gas is cheaper btw)

Don't speak of what you don't know child, and don't compare computers to vehicles - the comparisons never really work.
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>>53448189
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>>53448170
>theres no way DX12 has one less FPS

Literally watch the video.
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>>53448189
Actually the comparison is perfect. You had to do more than just slap 87 octane, you had to optimize it and even then the performance was negligible. Just like slapping DX12 on wont improve anything without tweaking, and even then the performance gain is negligible.

I know exactly wtf I'm talking about so please shut up.
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>>53448245
Man I'm glad I haven't played it
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>>53447208
does the patch even increase shadow and particle complexity? if it's the exact same visuals and no performance improvement whats the fucking point?
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>>53448266
please, oneslowGTP, go away

At the least you stopped posting nigger girl appreciation threads on /pol/, holy fuck you are a cancer too three boards.
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>>53447208

>being either a troll or a retard.

whatever floats your boat OP
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>>53448362

Can you speak english. This isn't tumblr where you get to make up random words with your own personal meaning.
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>>53448394
>wahh daddy the anon said something mean!
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>>53448365
>being this much in denial

At least mine is not sinking like yours.
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It turns out game devs are no better at writing gpu code than gpu driver writers
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>>53448223
fucking twingoposters
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I can run it with stable framerate using SSAA x4 before I had to pick SSAA x2 so there is definetly some improvement, also FX8350 users are reporting 10FPs increase.
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>>53447208
Hey I forgot to filter dx12

Thanks for the reminder OP

ps: filtered ;^)
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AMD can't into DX12 & Tessellation & Conservative Rasterization & Rasterizer Ordered Views
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>>53447208
I want /v/ to leave.

You people seriously have no fucking clue about this stuff. I wonder if you even know what DirectX _is_.
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>>53447618
not any more
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>>53447800
This guy gets it.
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>>53447208
>>53447680
>>53447800
>>53447925
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Win10shills BTFO
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>10fps increase using Dx12 in Rise of the Tomb Raider with AMD cpus
http://imgur.com/a/Zv2L6
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>>53450096
Back to plebbit, faggot
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>>53447208
It's an nvidia sponsored game so of course it has terrible implementation of things
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>>53450175
The "Nvidia Features" aren't even DX12 you dumb fucker.
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>>53450000
DirectX is a cancer

V U L K A N
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>Caring about a developer API when you're not a developer
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>>53447208
>>53447680

The new Tomb Raider is a game works game. The previous was licensed and packaged with AMD cards. The one for 2016 is licensed and packaged with Nvida cards.

See link: http://www.pcworld.com/article/3043068/software-games/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-patch-adds-directx-12-fancy-new-nvidia-vxao-tech.html

Now just to clear things up with DX11 and 12 and AMD. DX12 supports ASync and several other features that if dev's take advantage of you will see drastic improvements in AMD cards.

SOOOOO log story short...NVIDIA bought out this particular edition of Tomb Raider and it will be optimized for Nvida cards.

AND this is why AMD users don't like Nvida's business practices. AMD and Nvidia should not have to bribe devs to make games better on ones cards and not the other.


PIC: I seen some one do it on /b so I did MC Donald's 2 Big macs for $5
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>>53450195
Nvidia features are taint. As soon as it touches anything, it turns to shit.
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>>53450258
Do you even own the game? VXGI is DX11 only, you cannot use it with DX12.

>>53450273

So you're saying features that are only DX11 available were added to AMD's DX12 mode to gimp performance, even though those features aren't even available to Nvidia own DX12.

Do you have any self awareness how insane you sound?
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>>53450343
No, features that nvidia put it requires modification of the engine and background code that are left in even if the feature is turned off. It is why every nvidia game so far performs like shit even with the features turned off.
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>>53447618
For you
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>>53450258
>DX12 supports ASync and several other features that if dev's take advantage of you will see drastic improvements in AMD cards.
>if dev's [sic] take advantage of
>IF
Implying game devs know how to program
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>>53450096
Nice gains for AMD Fx CPUs in 3 of 4 cases. Moar cores are finally being utilized
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>>53448189
>>53448045
It doesn't you retard, you need a higher compression ratio to make use of the higher octane fuel
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>>53447766
Damn, we're experiencing some serious blowback from the bad nvidia drivers release, time to shill some crappy gameworks games, lol.
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It's almost like DX12 is a new technology and it'll take devs a while to fully grasp a brand new super complex system they have to manage.

crazy shit right buttflustered meme70 owner?
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No, it has to be perfect from the beginning
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>Microsoft gaymers and their shitty rendering engines

Kill yourselves
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>>53453353
>being buttraged that other people have hobbies
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>>53450258
at what point is amd responsible for their own failings? seems like every time something is wrong with amd it gets blamed on nvidia and intel. maybe nvidia has been bribing amd to write terrible dx11 drivers.
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>>53451192
Bane?
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>>53450210
vulkan is mainly for squeezing extra performance out of mobile games though since android already uses OpenGL for everything anyway

also Vulkan is actually a bit worse than regular DX11 on Windows 7.

Devs aren't going to port games to Linux just because there's an "almost as good" option that requires twice the work.

Don't work I'm sure tux racer will be ported over affect the Kickstarter goes through.
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