So, when will this become affordable?
Not until companies have some incentive to advance e-ink technology. Right now all there is for e-ink at that size is vaporware. If you're desperate, you can grab a used on on Ebay for ~$500.
>>53420591
that person needs to transition into using letters instead of elaborate pictures
>>53420679
But the Sony one isn't vaporware. It exists, and it's in mass production. Can you recommend a cheap, good quality one until I can afford it?
>>53420591
>he still doesn't use paper
>>53420751
>not using ideograms and syllabaries
>2016
>>53420752
I'm saying the Sony one is your only option. There's nothing else in its class currently.
>>53420910
wacom inkling.
>>53420910
Yeah, that's what I thought. Hopefully the Noteslate Shiro isn't a scam like their first one.
>>53420919
That isn't even remotely the same thing.
>>53420947
the end result is the same
>>53420960
No, it isn't. These things are for completely different uses.
>>53420965
>writing on e-ink so you can save your writing and email it to someone or blog it
>writing on paper and having it scan and sync automagically so you can email it to someone or blog it
>>53420977
>being retarded
Digital paper is supposed to replace paper. The Wacom Inkling uses paper. You also can't edit PDFs with the Inkling.
>>53420989
>Digital paper is supposed to replace paper.
Its not, its supposed to be easier on the eyes with e-ink. Thats its purpose.
>You also can't edit PDFs with the Inkling.
I have a PC for that very raisin
>>53421037
Did you even read what the Sony Digital Paper is? It's literally meant to replace paper.
>>53421054
I disagree with that premise
>>53421088
http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/show-digitalpaper/resource.solutions.bbsccms-assets-show-digitalpaper-digitalpaper.shtml?PID=I:digitalpaper:digitalpaper
Go to the site, watch the video, and tell me what it says.
>>53420910
What about the Onyx Boox line? I used one for several months to take notes. Can also edit pdfs.
>>53421104
Don't worrying anon, he is probably some 30 year old man child that thinks he can never be wrong because his mom told him so.
>>53421142
Yeah, you're probably right, I'll just go to bed.
>>53421118
Doesn't seem like you can get one anymore.
>>53421104
Hey this looks really neat, I'd give it another 5 years and hope the tech gets popular enough for them to continue developing it.
The biggest issue I can see right now is latency while working within the documents, and what I would prefer and probably want to spend money when it's reality is a 1ms or less latency from the pen.
>>53420752
I always wanted a kindle DX. Whats the size of that thing can I read manga there?
>>53421174
They released a second edition. As of less than a year ago you could get the newer model pretty easy.
>>53421226
It's sold out on their website and their eBay site is just just random stupid shit. If you have a link, I'd love to see it.
>>53420751
stroke-for-stroke it's about the same complexity as writing english in a smaller form factor
>>53421241
Hrm, I got mine on Amazon. Let me see what I can find. I sold my first gen to someone about a year ago, even though they were shopping at the time for new 2nd gens.
>>53421241
Bro, this took me less than 30 seconds on Google. I'm assuming that means with more effort you could find better selection.
http://www.amazon.com/Onyx-Boox-M92-White-Pearl/dp/B00BSR8R5E
>>53421241
Here's another, of the newer model, for $340ish. They come and go in stock quarterly or so.
http://www.amazon.com/BOOX-Display-speech-Bluetooth-Energy/dp/B0193Z6WF4
>>53421330
I saw that one, but since the MSRP on the gen2 was $339 or so, I felt like that was bullshit.
>>53421342
How I didn't find this, who the fuck knows. I'm going to actually go to bed now, thanks.
>>53421356
Enjoy. I used the boox extensively and liked it. Some people do prefer the older model still, not sure why, minor differences. I guess it's only priced higher since it's discontinued.
>>53421391
To be perfectly honest with you, I'll probably just save up and get the Sony one. I was hoping that the older thing would be cheaper because I forgot how tech prices work, and the A4 size is really attractive. Thanks anyway, though. Good to know there are other options.
>>53421432
I was in academia at the time, and tried some of the 13' ers. I found no extra benefit in A4. In landscape particularly, 9.7" in wider than a normal printed page. I think you will regret spending so much on the Sony in a couple years, when prices go down and you realize what a specialty device it is.
They are pimp for reading manga and b&w comics tho. Pretty nice for ebooks as well. The rest is just functionality, pdf's and notes.
>>53421492
I think given all the new features in the Sony, and the probable price reduction by the time I have to pick something to buy, it will win out. This is good information to have when I have to make the call, thanks. Now this time, I really will go to bed.
>>53421510
Good luck mang. Sleep well.
>>53421250
What the fuck how is this possible
>>53420591
when A4 sized eink has market demand
>>53421250
nope
character complexity is much higher on average for moon runes
>>53421054
no
it's actually an 800USD PDF reader since paper is not going anywhere
>>53420591
Why would you want this? Writing notes with a high quality pen is enjoyable.
>>53422902
its meant to be a pdf reader for super srs office professhiunals
>>53420591
>its like pen and paper, only it costs $1200 dollars
>Sounds perfect, sign me up
>>53420591
>when will this become affordable?
when op gets a job
>>53422003
chuckled
>>53420591
Nigga why would i want this? I can type so much faster than i write. I can edit what i type a million times faster and easier than my bad handwriting. At this point i can barely even handwrite anything beyond my own signature. This is the stupidest shit i have ever seen.
>>53420591
>holding a pen like that
fucking autism
>>53420751
Studies have shown that the brain reads and recognizes pictographs notably more quickly than it does words built with alphabets.
hand fedora
>>53424820
you cannot draw faster. In the 2 seconds it takes someone to sketch a diagram on digital paper, it'd take you 30 seconds to make an ugly pathetic drawing using your mouse, move your text over to fit it and import it into a word document and then move things around so you're typing after the image again.
Also, good luck doing that shit on the go. You're not typing any faster on an iphone screen than someone can write on paper.
If you bring a laptop everywhere you go like a chucklefuck then you're carrying several pounds of gear. Also a miniscule battery life unless you carry a charger that weighs as much as a digital paper device in itself.
e-ink doesn't use energy to display text at all (unlike an lcd using up energy 60+ times a second to display something), energy is only used to change what is on screen when something has been altered.
I'm sorry you're way too retarded to even write legibly on paper, a skill even 9 year old children can do successfully.
Giant e-reader tablets are cool, but I'd really like to know why laptops with screens with an epaper layer in the back and an OLED layer in the front aren't a thing yet. It'd be pretty neat to be able to switch your laptop into ultra-low-power epaper mode along with locking your CPU at 800Mhz for a super long life laptop that you'd have no problem reading on for hours, even sitting in broad sunlight.
>>53422015
>>53423581
Please read >>53421104
>>53424820
I write equations a lot. Pen and paper is essential for me for thinking and real time collaboration.
>>53420591
Can't you afford it already? What kind of poorfag are you, get off my /g/
>>53420591
Hopefully never as long as this retard holds the fucking pencil nearly upright. Holy shit get some grip.
>>53425057
>>53424820
>both can't be done
Where is my fucking hardlight?
>>53420591
Do japs hold writing utensils like that?
Is it easier to write their language with that hand posture, or is this guy just got terrible posture.
>>53421216
Large screen, but shit resolution and outdated screen technology as well as a terrible price because they're scarce. Avoid.
>>53422003
yeah right
here's a great example
"何" vs "what" since they're used in similar contexts
>>53420977
>2016
>writing
Stone age pleb
>>53420591
Would there be any true benefit to something like that? Paper weight and forever ink? That has to be it right?
>>53429500
File organization, convenience, PDF viewing, and the sexiest monochrome screen ever.
The only thing wrong with this is the lag from when you write something to it appears on the screen. I tried a similar product once, and it was literally unusable for me because of that.
I hope the technology improves soon, I have wanted this for ages.
>>53420591
Probably never. Sony priced it high enough for it to fail.
It's not exactly the same, but I have a SP4 and it has completely replaced all the paper I have ever needed for Uni. The only time I have yo bring out a pen or pencil is for written tests.
>>53430673
The new on by Sony doesn't have the lag unless you move really fast all the way across. It generally isn’t notable.
>>53423688
>only it costs $1200 dollars
$799 here tho bro
>>53431672
>The only time I have yo bring out a pen or pencil is for written tests.
Hopefully schools start replacing all exams/tests/inclasswork with these papers instead. Granted, they still have quite a bit of work to do, but it should greatly improve professor productivity and simplify all the shit they have to carry.
Just use pen and paper.
>>53433760
>carrying a ton of shit
>not being able to erase
>not being able to read PDFs
>not having a superior file organizing system
It’s called Bic Cristal and paper and it has been affordable for 66 years.
>b-but muh paper industry effects on the environment
Sure the electronics industry is not polluting. :^)
>>53432425
I remember in elementary - highschool the teachers always brought their huge binders of teaching plans and materials. All the professors now just bring their Surface or iPad.
>>53426723
I can write in latex faster than I can write equations by hand
I still want the digital paper though
>>53434329
You are not contributing to the discussion with your troll post. Also, see >>53434235
>>53434329
Missing the point...
>>53426845
For proper penmanship in asian languages, youshould have the pencil/pen upright. Prevents drag between symbols so that everything is clear, and that you don't accidentally turn the symbols for lobster into symbols that mean cunt.
>>53420591
You want to buy Asus EA800 and compile software on it. T. ex EA800 developer.
>>53435861
Saw it, thought it was great, also, please note that they don't fucking exist anymore.
>>53421216
Man those things are beyond ugly. Just get a iPad or Galaxy Tab
>>53420591
Fuck.
I wanted that thing since I saw a prototype video on it.
Sucks so bad It's so expensive.
I would totally sacrifice all the unnecessary android features if it were to be cheaper.
>>53435876
>please note that they don't fucking exist anymore
Seriously? I have 2 laying around in here.
ASUS dropped support for it, but it has Linux on board. You can compile your own linux applications for it.
800$ isn't affordable?
>>53435911
And it has a no-backlight e-reader screen?
>>53435950
It's not e-ink.
It's a monochrome ultra low power LCD.
The tablet itself works for around 14 hours on 1 charge. If you find an auction, tell me. I need some spare parts for my current model.
>>53436006
I'd rather buy the Digital Paper. As for buying that, I'd recommend you ask the other guy >>53435911
>>53436032
It's me motherfucker.
And here is my forum.
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/forums/asus-android.1052/
all I had to do was type e ink writing tablet into google and there are tons of them for $100 - $200
>>53436062
It seemed like you were someone else, given that you were looking for replacement parts when you have two laying around.
>>53436071
>Noteslate
Their first product took in $99 pre-orders with specs that weren't actually possible (a screen of that specific size and resolution wasn't available) then apologized and this one may or may not also be vaporware. The rest are shit.
>>53436089
I'm looking for parts, because I'm smart. 10 years from now there will be no parts. The Dev forum is officially dead now.
T. /g/ historian.
>>53436128
>10 years from now
It's right now. There are literally 0 on the market, that's why I said they don't fucking exist.
>>53436150
>>53427477
hmmm, this fella is onto something.
I certainly said "what" when I saw that rune,
