So Opera Developer now includes an ad-blocker, and it suggests blocking them right when you load your first webpage.
Why aren't you using it? Are you going to dismiss this brave step forward?
Opera's had an ad blocker since the Presto days, I'm using it right now.
>>53409589
Yeah, I mean the new one. They included that feature back, and it works really really well. Better than using an extension.
>>53409584
does Opera sell your info?
>enjoy your chinese botnet
>>53409768
whom are you citing?
>>53409739
yes
>>53409584
>using a browser made by an advertising company owned by some chinese group
Wew lad
Because they're still using Webkit cancer.
I'll go back to Opera when they go back to Presto.
>>53409791
>I'll go back to Opera when they go back to Presto.
>Opera
>going back to Presto
;_;
>>53409791
I don't understand that meme. Presto was not that good to begin with...
>>53409739
>>53409768
They're blocking ads, even if it goes against their company's interest. You won't see Google doing this. Yet you surely use Google products.
>>53409818
At the time of the switch it was better than Webkit (or Blink) and diversity in rendering is important to ensure web developers comply to standards. Remember IE7?
>>53409818
It was better than Blink.
>>53409818
It was the best.
>>53409851
>>53409850
dat nostalgia
>>53409584
But is it a good adblocker?
Brave blocks ads too but you have almost no settings.
>>53409925
right now it's pretty basic, but boy it's fast.
I'm sure they'll add more options later.
/g/ BTFO
>>53409818
>Presto
Load new webpage. Immediately displays content, even before css loads. Dynamically adjusts layout as css loads. If it's a slow website you can carry on reading while waiting for the css to load.
>Webkit / Blink
Load new webpage. Shows blank white page until css loads. Sit humming a tune, twiddling thumbs until css loads.
Whoever thinks Blink is better than Presto is deluding themselves.
>>53410851
> Immediately displays content, even before css loads.
> Dynamically adjusts layout as css loads.
> If it's a slow website you can carry on reading while waiting for the css to load.
That's good? That sucks dude. You need to view the website as the designer intended.
>>53411333
And you do, but you can start reading before your browser is able to properly style the site
>>53409835
>yet you surely use Google product
What?
>>53411348
but I'm pretty sure the designer wouldn't like you to see the site that way, the same way a film director doesn't want you to see unfinished scenes in a movie you're watching at the cinema.You're supposed to see the styled site always.
>>53411372
most people crying "botnet!! botnet!!" are using Google Chrome on Windows 10
>>53411348
most of the content is aligned through css, it would be one big mess of overlayed shit i think
>>53411384
And you fucking do see the styled site, are you retarded?
>>53411433
Sometimes, most of the time that doesn't happen.
>>53411384
>Opera 12
>open website
>CSS still loading
>see the link you need to visit, click it right away
>other browsers
>open website
>CSS still loading
>wait
>wait
>wait
>CSS loaded, page finally appears
>click the link you needed
It's obvious which way is the best.
>>53409584
Why are you posting a picture of a toilet seat OP?
>>53409835
>I for one prefer chinese botnet over american botnet
sure.
>>53411700
As an American I feel much safer with my data in the hands of China. They don't hold any legal authority over me.
>>53409791
Actually, it's blink, a webkit fork that's actually good.
Webkit is really, really buggy. Blink works well and has support for the latest and greatest shit.
>>53411417
Yeah, no, bullshit. There's plenty people here running Linux and Android without gapps. I know I do.
Everyone adblocks, it's a matter of security. No one sane would put malware on their own site, but there's absolutely a lot of malicious JavaScript out there.
What are the real, significant benefits over using an extension say uBlock origin?
>>53411950
They claim that it's faster
>>53409739
>proprietary software
>not selling your info
Pick one and only one
>>53411950
There are none, in fact it makes you easier to target to disable ad blocking. I use adblock on android and every so often it fails, but only when I'm watching porn. I suspect it detects mobile and assumes I'm using the only adblock that doesn't require root, targeting that.
If we all use a variety of adblocking programs we'll better resist these sort of attacks.
>>53411470
Opera 12 BTFO
>We-we are still relevant!
>G-guys, p-please don't leave us alone!
>>53412032
Whatever. I wish more browsers implement this at at browser level.
>>53412032
Go and use your sjw-fox
>>53412074
I don't.
If a browser extension cannot block ads then the API is too limited and the browser is shit.
>>53409584
>Are you going to dismiss this brave step forward?
Once the undeniable reality of ad blocking sinks in, the ad/tracking/data mining industry least worse move is to take over the field of ad blocking, so that they are the ones in control after all.
Ghostery, ABP, AdBlock, Brave, Opera ... all linked to the ad/tracking/data mining industry one way or another, to have the last word about what is really going to be blocked.
>>53412528
But we've got open-source extensions for that, to be in control of what is blocked, ultimately.
>>53412528
Well, they claim to just use EasyList.
>>53411384
I don't give a shit what the designers want. I want to access the content asap, always.
>>53409775
>whom
no
retarded fuck
>>53413668
ugh. /g/
I really hope you aren't ricing your desktop or DE, because... who needs that, right? Let's browse through the console.
I'll swap as soon as they put back vertical tabs and editable mouse gestures. It's the holy grail for lazy browsing.
>>53413785
Editable gestures are there, at least in Developer version.
Vertical tabs... I don't see that coming back.
>>53413812
Made me download the developer edition and check.
I can enable mouse gestures, but they can't be edited and there are far from enough for lazy one handed browsing.
>>53409818
It was the best rendering engine. What killed it is webdevs not respecting standards.
>muh presto can't render pages maymay
I don't think anything made me more cringe on /g/ than this.
>>53412868
inb4 opera reintroduce user agent switch.
>now owned by a chinese company
that's why
You can't even customize the search engine because Opera relies on their partner's money.
shit/10
>>53413976
Based Chinese.
>opera got more useful features in a month than it got in years before being bought by the chinks
>>53413994
But you can
>>53414032
Then try changing Google to Google Encrypted.
>>53409584
Nice to see they implemented it themselves since there are no Opera addons and the chrome ones run like shit if at all
Your browser is dead Opera-devs, stop the shilling no one cares
>>53411993
Why aren't they comparing it to uBlock Origin?
>>53409835
I'd use an @opera email. If it were stable and didn't sell my info.
>>53414108
>since there are no Opera addons
>and the chrome ones run like shit if at all
do you get paid for sharing lies on the internet?
>Your browser is dead Opera-devs, stop the shilling no one cares
oh, mentally challenged shitposter
nevermind
>>53414002
China too stronk!
>>53409584
adblocking is theft, some would claim.
>>53415987
Casuals will pay (insert carrot emoticon here)
>>53411333
>You need to view the website as the designer intended.
Il view the webpage however the fuck i want too
>not even your trips can save you from me
>>53411719
>They don't hold any legal authority over me.
This To be quite the honest man, my family member.
Normalfags shouldn't be using adblock, they should be feeding the ad mammon machine for us leet memers to surf the net free of charge.
>>53415987
Now, being serious, it is really interesting how the web will evolve. Paywalls? Paid content? Less websites?
>>53416648
Large websites will pay the browsers to whitelist their ads.
For example, Opera has Youtube whitelisted.
>>53409584
>Why aren't you using it?
Because then I'd have to use Opera.
Nope. Never.
>>53420163
Mind explaining?
>>53409584
I have respect towards opera from the old innovative days (tabbed browsing, speed dial, etc...).
However, the new Blink Opera is just an inferior Chrome clone. I don't use Chrome so why would I use a shittier Chrome?
>>53414002
Wait what. Which new features did it get since the Chinese took over? And don't cite 12.18, I already know about that.
>>53409739
Yes.
>>53416635
Underrated post
I don't trust native adblock. I find that some sites are whitelisted I immediately lose faith in the extension. Does anyone know if Opera whitelisted anything?
