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What went wrong?
People got romanticized by the medium-to-high income level of the computer world and every kid between the ages of 14-19 has been told their whole life that they are great with computers (mostly because their whole family is shit at them) and that they should do something with computers for money.
People also think it's easier than it is because they've only ever had to manage their own private computer experience or one user at a time.
Money hungry faggots
A generation of people who got told they would be the next bill gates because they knew how to operate a computer.
>>53324956
The market demanded commodity programmers. While you want to keep a few geeks around for innovation, the dudes on the right are in it for the dough and will do as they're told. Furthermore, you can have them in customer facing roles without worrying about their hygiene.
Guys on the left are making 7 figures as higher up management as we speak.
>>53324956
Left=Nerds
Right=''Nerds''
>>53325197
I blame the big bang theory
Le ebin nerd generation~~
>>53324956
What's the deal with the shorts and boat shoes with no socks combo?
it's so stupid looking
It got promoted too heavily in those "top 5 earning college degrees" articles and became the new business degree.
>>53325231
Its the douche uniform.
Now you don't have to talk to them anymore to find out that you don't want to deal with them.
>>53325073
Which is leading to a bunch of faggots posting on /g/
Everything went wrong, but thats more society to blame
> inb4 edgelord
You guys ever used Socrative before?
A lecturer at my uni decided to use it to do a quiz in a lecture then go over the answers which are below in the PDF.
http://b.1339.cf/fabpfed.pdf
>mfw I'm on a course with retarded redditors that can't resist the urge to insert memes into everything they do
>mfw the amount of fucking retards on my CS degree
>>53325279
>>mfw the amount of fucking retards on my CS degree
Some of our teachers use it for tests on the iPad.
We can open our books on the background so it's fucking retarded
I started college back in 2007, and at that time there were only 2 schools in the state with a CS program, and both only had a handful of students. My freshman class had around 10 new CS majors (only 5 of us graduated.) I actually got a devops job at that same college's CS department about 2 years ago, and shits unrecognizable compared to when I was there.
Now, every college in the state has a CS program, and my alma mater brings in about 100 new CS students a year (and growing.) The graduation numbers are usually the same as they ever were.
>Jacket and shorts
If it is so damn warm you cannot wear regular pants, why would you wear the jacket?
You already decided that you don't care about how you look, so it can't be that.
Mens fashion is rather hard to fuck up.
So I guess they have achieved something
>>53325335
>every college in the state has a CS program
I'll bet only one of the colleges is accredited though.
>>53325335
Don't worry, it'll change soon. CS departments are heavily subsidized by the athletic departments.
>>53325279
what the fuck is wrong with people?
On question 8, why did so many people say that "return 0" is the significant part of that application?
And nobody decided to answer in by writing their name and then the answer. Is this the first week of CS?
>>53325379
>MemeMachine
>Dank meme
>DON'T TOUCH ME CIS SCUM
all that reddit.
>>53324956
your dad's condom
>>53325428
No, it's the second semester of the second year. First class of a new section in a module on operating systems.
>>53324956
>What went wrong?
a lot of things
>>53324956
https://youtu.be/SW-BU6keEUw?t=19s
>>53324956
Normies who give no fucks about computers or math got told that you can make a shitload of money in "IT".
>>53325458
60% doesn't know the speed of a CPU (although he wasn't specific)
And while a lot answer right on KiB, 10 people failed to see the connection to the KB question, which makes me worried.
None of these questions has anything to do with CS though, clearly your teach just wanted to if you were complete retards
>>53325458
What is this course about, proper handling of mice or what? Hopefully you guys manage to finish on the right mouse button this semester or you'll have to resort to a Mac.
Seriously though, even students in rural India without access to actual computers can do better than that, hopefully you're at least from some socialist country and don't have to pay for that shit but I guess not.
>>53325336
It's a prep look. This fashion derives from New England old money styles, so it usually has a lot of naval elements (e.g., little anchors on things, boat shoes, etc.) because rich people by the ocean keep boats. The jacket/shorts combo is to keep your lower half cool and your upper half covered because when you're in a boat your legs are inside but your top half sticks out and there's a lot of wind on the ocean.
So that's where the look came from, at least.
>>53325279
2nd year and 2nd semester CS here too.
I feel bad for you.
Please don't go to these classes and just do something more productive at home.
>>53326122
The classes are okay, it's just the majority of students seem to not give a fuck about cs at all or are just retarded.
Worst part of the whole thing is having to group work with people, would much rather have just worked on my own, would have been so much easier.
>>53325279
>http://b.1339.cf/fabpfed.pdf
damn nigga should've gone into CS instead of accounting and finances, so many fucking retards in your class anon
>>53325279
Excuse me but >UNI? As in UNIVERSITY?
If this is why /g/ is shitting on CS degrees then I fucking understand, I'm appalled, really. Are you from the US?
>>53326320
No UK. £9000 a year. Fuck me.
>THIS GENERATION'S COMPUTER SCIENCE MAJORS DON'T LOOK LIKE OBESE SOCIALLY RETARDED NECKBEARED SHUT-INS
>They must be shit programmers
Stay retarded, /g/
>>53326330
It's okay though if you can do things alone and learn on your on time it doesn't matter. Those people are everywhere.
>>53324956
I feel this too. So many fucking normies who can't even install a printer or write FizzBuzz in under 10 minutes. One of the first courses of the first year was Java/OOP. Fucking 30% pass rate. I wish someone would castrate these people or make them unenroll. The quality of my education is suffering from it.
>>53324956
I will all end after then dotcom bubble II pops, can't be soon enough
>>53325326
It's a bad test if you're only going to reigurate what the book said
>>53325279
Those questions are elementary school level
Also, no one used Go, wtf?
This mentality is what happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEgxS_vzQjU
I have a friend that would be paid by his family to do shit like install browsers and virus protection bloatware.
>I wanna be rich like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerbergstein
That's what went wrong.
>>53325737
in my operating systems course we did virtual machines,linux and some shit like setting up remote desktop and active directory
>>53326330
What hideous ex-poly are you at? that's truly awful, most ex-cs students I know at least are beyond that standard
Kids started majoring in CS because they want to make video games.
75% of CS students at my uni want to make vidya games.
Kinda makes me happy because it lowers the competition a lot.
>>53328553
>lowers the competition
Demand and supply. When the supply of CS grads is higher than the demand, competition for jobs that require a CS degree is sky high.
>>53328577
he means though there's lots, they're all going to be looking for work at shitty videogame startups, so other applicants for work at whatever tech firm he applies for will have experience in programming nothing but shitty 2D engines for indie games.
>>53328577
Yah but when 75% of CS graduates are NEETs at heart who only want to make video games and beat off to anime it's literally impossible not to be the best of the best.
>>53328577
I think he means that they won't actually be looking for the job he wants.
>>53328627
>they're all going to be looking for work at shitty videogame startups, so other applicants for work at whatever tech firm he applies for will have experience in programming nothing but shitty 2D engines for indie games.
This logic is flawed because of two reasons
1) the amount of "serious"/"competent" CS students is probably the same as before, meaning that the competition for those firms are probably just as high provided that the number of those jobs remain relatively constant
2) those game devs will realize sooner or later that they wont get their dream job, and start taking "boring" jobs instead
>>53328635
See >>53328669
It's just more people all in all meaning that the number of people he has to compete with for the job he wants is still the same in best case.
>>53325167
Fucking bullshit.
You need to have people skills to make management. That's what all these nerds on /g/ do not understand. You can program all day, but if you can't confidently talk to other co-workers and lead it will never matter.
>>53328635
>>53328635
>>53328669
>>53328683
Original commenter here.
I forgot to disclose that I don't really care about CS students because I'm doing IS and will be their manager some day.
You're doing a good job, worker!
>>53328669
Learn some reading comprehension, I know how demand and supply works stop reiterating, the 'increased supply' is negligible BECAUSE the number of competent cs students remains constant, the disillusioned developers are still inadequately prepared for application to 'boring' jobs even when they do try, si will often retrain or end up as sysadmins on $30k for the rest of their lives
a talented programmer as anon claims he is will still only be facing the dedicated few he would have faced in 1995-2005
>>53325021
>Money hungry faggots
Should they continue to live in their mom's basement like you?
>>53328736
>the number of competent cs students remains constant
Then the competition is exactly the same as before, not less....
>>53325922
>old money styles,
Calm down gatsby
>>53328736
>end up as sysadmins
That's a positive result. They're far more likely to become an IT help desk or a code monkey than become a system administrator.
>>53327331
>it takes him ten minutes to fizzbuzz
>>53328771
I never said it did, your the one claiming it's harder to get jobs in cs now, I'm saying it's as hard for someone with the right set of skills as it ever was
>>53324956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ugHP-yZXw
>>53324956
What went right? Internet exploded and it become a commodity.
What went wrong? Normies suddenly realized how cushie it was to have computer jobs thus displacing overweight stinky nerds with no soft skills.
Depending on the college, the guys on the left are most likely first year CS major who all might possibly fail out of their CS classes second semester.
I think CS curriculum's do a good job weeding out people shown on the right of OPs pic. Now if OP said the guys on the right were people in bootcamps, then I think that would be more realistic.
>>53328923
I meant the guys on the right
>>53324956
Back then, people didn't know computers were to pave the way of the future, so CS was disregarded as a "nerd" degree. Nowadays, the Internet is overpopulated & everyone & their mom uses a computer. So, it's more attractive.
There's also
>money
Like everyone else said.
>>53325279
let me guess.
the professor is also a redditor and told them their answers would be anonymous
i would have answered only memes too in that case
>>53329060
>money
What is supply and demand?
>>53328923
>>53328940
>/g/ can't tell their left from their right
>trying to program as a hobby
No wonder nothing ever gets accomplished
>>53328923
>>53328923
Except that in reality it is the opposite.
The neck-beard "nerd life!" types are the ones that get weeded out.
>>53324956
high starting salaries for engineering and computer science majors getting spammed on all major news websites resulted in the majors getting flooded with utter retards chasing money.
i didn't realize how bad it was until i had to do senior design and was actually forced to work on a longer term project with my "peers."
About to finish my degree.
What should I expect, outside of staying unemployed?
>>53328743
Living within your means ≠ living with your mom.
From my personal experience it is the 'nerd culture' types that are really bad at this.
The genuinely 'nerdy' types and the intelligent bros/chads/whatever you want to call them are the ones who are good at things.
>>53329400
people asking you to help with anything computer related
>>53324956
It's called abstraction
You can get a mentally retarded monkey to churn out functional code these days
>>53329371
pretty much this
after I finished an academy thing at a local software company they kept a few of the attendees and it was just the social guys and people who knew how to answer their seemingly innocent questions like "introduce yourself" and "how do you feel about this experience now that it's over?" or "fill out this feedback paper"
Information Systems is the people's person degree. It combines the best of CS, IT, and BUS classes into one streamlined degree.
It sets you on a path for management and six figure salary. It allows you to take almost any job in the field with a little practice.
I put up with CS autists on a daily bases and laugh internally at them because they will never be as successful as me. I already make 35k as a 19 year old junior in college while they beat off to anime and video games all day and fail Calculus 2.
>>53329673
Go figure people who have no social skills don't go far in a career field that actually involves a lot of interaction with real human beings.
I think that's something a lot of 'beards don't realize. Until you land a cushy remote job where you just manage databases in your underwear, you're going to be talking to a lot of people and you're going to need to know how to extract information from them, which involves not nauseating or offending them.
>>53329696
>while they beat off to anime and video games all day and fail Calculus 2.
I'll show you, anon-san! I'll practice integrals everyday of my Spring Break & come out w/ a 100 on the next exam! I'll show them all!
>>53329696
I watch 20+ shows a season and made a B in calc 2, thank you very much. And I have an A- in calc 3 right now, I think I'm doing okay for an /a/utist
They all want to dress like each other.
>>53325279
Most of those memes sounds like /pol/ and /b/ memes, nice redditors u got there :^)
>>53328861
>I never said it did
Anon I replied to did:
>>53328553
>Kinda makes me happy because it lowers the competition a lot.
>lowers the competition a lot
>your the one claiming it's harder to get jobs in cs now
I said it was AT LEAST as hard as before, but PROBABLY harder.
>>53328705
>You need to have people skills to make management.
Just because they look like fucking nerds doesn't mean they don't have "people skills".
The wizard in the back looks like hes on a trip. His hat looks pretty cool too.
>>53324956
They got rid of all the math requirements
