How did Korea beat Japan in the technology war?
Will Nippon ever recover?
persistance
No, but Korea will fall behind Nation X in the next 20 years. The stagnation is inevitable.
They didn't. Samsung just stopped producing cameras completely. The market is Japanese owned.
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Nobody gives a fuck about South Korea though.
>>53295215
What does Korea even have other than Samshit? Seems like everything is either Japanese, "American" brands made in chinkshit factories or straight chinkshit. The main exception being audio where you get quality European gear.
>>53295215
Most of Japan still runs Windows xp, and they only buy Apple products, most of Sony's profits come from their American based subordinates like Sony pictures
Tell me when Korea makes superior Chinese Cartoons, then we'll talk.
>>53295286
1. I don't think you realise the size of Samsung. They're good for 17%(!) of the South-Korean GDP.
2. Name me a ground breaking Japanese technology since 2000 that doesn't involve touching drawn girl.
>>53295286
>doesnt know about Huyndai and LG.
>>53295407
The Honda robots
>>53295215
Samsung's major contribution is in memory manufacture, right? Outside that, they aren't really making anything that isn't just more of the same, I think. Maybe the finfet fab? But I think that's linked to memory as well.
>>53295286
LG.
>>53295490
No, they're the world's second largest semiconductor manufacturer. Right behind Intel. Not just memory, though that's important.
South Korea's little SK Hynix is about twice the size of Japan's largest semiconductor company (Toshiba - basically only makes memory now).
>>53295286
Hyundai which which is huge conglomerate
LG,
...
S Korea has some of the biggest companies
>>53295215
Koreans are the superior race. It's why the slanty-eyed Japanese bastards hate them so much.
>>53295570
i was under the impression toyota was the biggest car manufacturer of them all moving the most units of them all
not to mention honda, nissan and mitsubishi exist as well
>>53295490
They also have one of the largest container ship makers
>>53295645
Are their container ships particularly advanced?
>>53295719
the method of manufacture is advanced, that's how they're still holding off Chinese shipmakers
>>53295602
Very little part of Hyundai is car making. I think they are the biggest ship makers on the world if i'm not mistaken,
Here is a short list of what they do
Trading; Ships, Automobiles, Machinery, Plant, Electric & Electronics, Chemicals, Steel & Metal, Coal, and other raw materials etc.
>>53295215
They had much better relations with America. They were able to adapt America's ethic and improve it. Bear in mind America had started to be fucking cocksuckers with planned obsolescence and other such shit, which the japanese did not do.
Are these big companies where they do a bit of everything only a Korean thing or are there American ones out there also?
>>53295461
MIT robots are much more advanced
>>53295815
Conglomerates are pretty common. Sony is one for example and it seems like many French companies are part of one.
>>53295286
They have companies that make cars, freight ships, and subway tunnels
>>53295815
ge maybe
jet engines, tvs, microwaves, washer dryers
>Europe
Headphones/speakers, embedded technology such as NFC chips and chip manufacturing, thriving high-tech car industry and supportive tech such as navigation
>Japan
Sony, cars, set the example of a consumer-tech based society, high-end phones back in the 00s
>Korea
Samsung, LG, upcoming tech market focused on high-end TVs and portable smart devices
>China
DAPs, DACs, AMPs, myriad of chink shit, you fucking name it they make it
>US of A
Prime example of a completely broken market. Thousands of startups being invested in and never going anywhere. Tons of companies leaving because of high taxes. In terms of success stories, Intel maybe, but their main R&D is in Israel so I don't count it as such. Google? An international, tax-evading software company with Pajeets running the thing, and Apple just jams technology designed and developed by other companies in fancy cases.
>>53295815
They're less popular here. Investors want focused companies and most of the big western conglomerates were broken up by investors in the 80s which increased earnings per share as less profitable portions were shuttered.
But the US still has some: 3M, GE, Honeywell, Koch.
>>53295215
Both are shitty country's with outdated ways
>>53295215
Japanese are simply too incompetent.
>>53295932
Google has pajeets? Every time I called them for support I got someone from the US every time
>>53295932
>microsoft isn't even mentioned
oh how the mighty have fallen
>>53295932
I don't know if you're aware but US manufactures more than Japan, Germany and Korea combined. #2 behind China. They're just not famous for it, probably because it's a much smaller portion of economy.
>>53295570
don't forget kia and hankook.
i see a lot of people these days driving around with hankook tires and a shit ton of kia's.
>Europe
Europe had the best company in the mobile market... THE GREAT NOKIA
japan is still big with capacitors manufacturing.
nicon is huge.
>>53296009
Only Americans buy Made in USA shit.
Korean products are what you buy when you can't afford Japanese quality and reliability. IE buying Samsung instead of Sony or buying Hyundai instead of Toyota or Honda.
Korea is Japan's rape baby. They're middle ground between buying Japanese and Chinese.
>>53296036
and Canadians...
i live in AZ and we get a SHIT TON of canadians during the winter and spring. they love coming down here to beat the snow of canada and head off to mexico to get cheap prescriptions.
awhile ago i was talking to one Canadian couple at work and they were telling me they can go down to mexico pick up a 200count bottle of Vicodin for $30 that would cost $1000 Canadian and asthma medication that would cost $300 back home for $50.
>>53296036
Exported 1.4 trillion of manufactured goods in 2014.
>>53295932
>Europe
I'm from Europe and our 'tech' industry is a fucking joke. Anyone with some sort of education runs of to Silicon Valley before they worked a day in their lives over here.
>>53296121
ssshhh, just let them be. USA is the largest economy in the world just by taking loans and spending it on Chinese crap.
>>53296134
or yes they go work in some hipster start up in Amsterdam, London or Berlin.
The ephermal thin as fuck apple clone consumer tech that is "tech" now is out of the scope of japanese culture
>not contributingu to dis bulshitteru
>but dadderu, i raiku mai iphoneu
>kawaii, daughteruchan, but makingu za iphone desu wourd dishonaru famiry
>i make nettobooku instead
>is portabaru hackingu and productivity device and actuary has replaceabu battery
I think the question should be: Will S. Korea ever recover when they fall? Because it's just a matter of time, their work efficiency is one of the poorest in the world for a 1st world country, the corporate structure is stagnant, entrepreneurship is dead because Koreans believe there's only one set path to success, their CEOs tend to favor decisions that'll only give short-term profits, etc, etc, etc.
>>53296192
Apple is selling like crazy in Japan though.
>>53295941
>>53295908
>>53295850
>Conglomerates
I don't know if I should see them as something good or bad. I just don't like how the wealth is very centralized. But than again it looks good for the country from the outside. And if you can land a job with them your good to go for life.
>>53295932
>yurope
>bloated, uninnovative semiconductor companies propped up by state support
>engineers who get paid shit money to do jack shit
>decent euros jumping ship to American companies anyways
A literal meme continent.
>>53296384
>enjoy free education paid for by beta providers
>move abroad to work for more money the day you graduate
>get applauded for being such a cosmopolitian wonder by the same retards you're abbandoning
life of a Europoor
>>53296384
>decent euros jumping ship to American companies anyways
What companies, exactly? Can you name a couple involved in the actual production and development of goods?
>>53296457
Google, Microsoft, Oracle and Adobe for example are recruiting on my university in the Netherlands.
>>53296013
Nokia is Scandanavian.
>>53296553
That explains why the company nearly ceased to exist.
>>53296384
>>yurope
>>bloated, uninnovative semiconductor companies
Every single computer chip is made with Dutch machines.
ASML is the sole responsible for Moore's law.
>>53296640
ASML is only Dutch by name and their headquarter is based here. Like 70-80% of their profits come from Asia, Europe isn't even good for 10%. Usually production + R&D follows the profit.
>>53296687
The fuck are you talking about?
They do all their R&D and their production in Veldhoven.
They SELL to Asia,
Yeah, no shit - that's where their customers are.
>>53296640
They have one factory in NL, two in the US, one in ROC and another in ROK.
>>53296751
>They do all their R&D and their production in Veldhoven.
read >>53296752
Companies no longer belong to countries, they just move wherever they feel like.
>>53296784
R&D is still all in the Netherlands.
As is the is production of their most advanced machines.
ie: all the high-end jobs are here.
If you refuse to call ASML Dutch then how the fuck could Intel be called American?
It's amusing how people try to feel country or continent pride via their companies, when the companies themselves feel no national pride and constantly shift themselves around as is convenient to avoid taxes
>>53296808
I don't refuse to call ASML Dutch, but I just like to remind you by now companies don't give a flying shit about their country of origin and are the first ones to go when things start looking bad.
Philips for example is moving away most of their industry and whatnot from Eindhoven by now.
>>53296851
Unlike America which makes everything, right?
USA! USA! USA lol Yurope, so notech, USA!
>>53296909
The fuck is wrong with you dude? American companies are the worst backstabbers of them all towards their own people, they started the whole business of moving manufacturing overseas to save mere pennies.
kankermongool.
>>53296909
krijg toch de kanker
>>53296909
>>53296851
>>53296931
Waar gaat dit over? XD
>>53296965
I dared to question that Europe is a "meme continent" without any decent tech companies.
That was super triggering to all the USA lovers here.
>>53296808
ASML employees in the Netherlands: 5800/14600
Intel employees in the US: 50200/107300
Not too far off in structure. I wonder how many Nikon/Canon employees are in Japan. Can't find any numbers.
W-what about ARM?
i'm pretty sure south korea stole japanese patents and shit
not sure how but they did it.
with americans help of course
Japan tried betting on coming up with a new generation of computers but failed.
>>53295261
>/threading own post
Here's your (You)
>>53295381
dirty Korean slaves do inbetweens to complete glorious nippon key frame animations
lmao I wonder if anyone using korean products realizes most of the actual internals comes from China/Japan. lllllllllllllllllllllooooolll
>>53295215
South Korea has technically been at war for the last 60+ years. War usually spurs innovation. It gives a nation incentive to stay on their toes.
>>53296028
you mean nichicon?
>>53295256
Nation X will be China
What is Japan even known for, besides cheap cars and robotics?
Nobody won yet.
Korea has LG, Japan has Sony.
One excels in monitors/screens and household appliances.
The other excels in sound tech, gaming (albeit the gaming part is failing since Sony is more anti-consumer than ever before).
>>53295932
>South America
Raw materials, cocaine.
>>53296087
Yeah. """"Vicodin"""" and """"asthma"""" medications.
>>53295407
>2. Name me a ground breaking Japanese technology since 2000 that doesn't involve touching drawn girl.
God damn fastest maglev train in the world and they have a big stake in ITER.
>>53295775
Yes, the Japanese don't plan obselescence which is why they have so much old technology that still works perfectly. You can use the dankest vending machin and it will vend perfectly.
>>53295261
WRONG
>>53301804
Then why do Sony phones run like dog shit after every update?
Japan makes anime.
Nuke the rest of the orient.
>>53295215
>>53295215
Neither really matter since United States of America is MILES ahead of them.
Not to mention that we never EVER lost a war.
>>53303152
Did I say miles? I meant lightyears!
>>53295215
By copying their style in the 90's and then produce great shit in the mid 2K period.
Japan hasn't recovered from the old recession. Nor have they dominated anything outside of audio.
>>53295215
Remember when the Fukushima earthquakes hit and then the nuclear accident happened? Many factories worldwide had to suspend production due to lack of parts and components.
Because Japan is losing its big branded companies does not mean it is lagging behind.
>>53302896
Sony is highly Americanized. The only thing they seem to care now is how to rip artists and customers at the same time.
>>53295381
I know bruh. Even Korean manhwa is full of degeneracy, NTR and fried chicken.
>>53303152
>what is the glorious people of Viet Nam?
>>53295381
they did have a cartoon culture war after world war 2 and korean war. Japan won tho
>>53296407
which country, mate?
>>53295932
>Japan
>Cars
?
Because Japan can't into English.
This greatly restricts Japan's ability to being up-to-date with the rest of the world's improvements.
This is the actual reason, not even kidding.
>>53295381
Koreans do most of the actual "animation" these days since japs hate paying their own people to draw non-keyframes.
>>53303802
they should import some wreaboo neets to teach english.
>>53303821
NEETs are horrible at English.
Samsung > Sony
LG > Sharp
Hyundai >Honda
Kia > Nissan
Hankook > Yokohama
K-pop >J-pop
Korean dramas > Japanese retard TV shows
Bibimbap > Ramen
Korean BBQ > Sashimi
Kimchi > Natto
Soju > Sake
Hite > Kirin Ichiban
the only thing the Japs have that the gooks don't are video games, porn and cameras (to film the porn)
>>53303827
This. One of the reasons they are NEET, it's not by choice.
>>53303850
>Hite > Kirin Ichiban
>>53302464
Right, Kodak stopped producing sensors thanks to the jap dominance
>>53303850
oh and animu, of course. can't believe i forgot to mention it.
if the gooks start making their own anime and porn (KAV), things will get really interesting.
>>53303827
>>53303868
i don't believe it.
they can teach just fine, don't need a phd in english to teach that shit
>>53303888
You do need to be a relatively stable person with some social skills though
If you teach to anything above kid level you need an education
>>53303850
If only porn wasn't banned in South Korea, then they would be ahead of Japan by being uncensored. Also, doesn't Samsung manufacture cameras?
KAV porn won't happen until after their big unification party.
>>53295976
They don't have the classic call center pooinloo, they have a shitton of poo engineers, and the current president of Google (mind you, Google, not Alphabet that currently owns Google) it's indian
>>53303898
They tried to get into the market that Sony practically invented, the mirrorless/EVIL one, but failed badly
Isn't all the Samsung NX series on life support?
>>53303850
>Samsung > Sony
>LG > Sharp
>Hyundai >Honda
>Kia > Nissan
>Hankook > Yokohama
How can you even type shit like this ironically?
>>53303850
Korean BBQ is better but ramen is GOAT.
>>53303850
>Hyundai >Honda
>Kia > Nissan
kill yo self
>>53303850
moshi moshi beito desu~
>>53303806
vietnamese do it now
>>53295215
As a man who currently works in a Japanese technology patent office, I can tell you this is false.
>>53303152
>we never EVER lost a war
Actual real people living in america believe this.
>>53295932
> Tons of companies leaving because of high taxes
>This is what murricans actually belive
>>53295583
>meanwhile Korea is still crying about 'warcrimes' and Japan gives no fucks.
>>53303850
Well I don't about others but
>KPOP
kill yourself degenerate
>>53295381
Girls of the Wilds was good..
For a while. Don't know what's happening now
>>53295215
When did N&S Korea stop being north of Japan?
>>53296553
Do you even geography
>>53303850
>Koreans don't have porn.
Into trash Korea goes then.
>>53295286
ALL OLED panels are Korean and most LCD panels are Korean except for Sharps.
>>53300555
Vidya
>>53295286
The world's tallest tower was made by Samshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burj_Khalifa
>implying Coreans didn't steal Japan's technology
TOP KEK M8
>>53308278
Sharp makes the most power efficient LCDs (IGZO)
Panasonic makes the most color accurate LCDs
Sony makes the best OLED panels in terms of accuracy and durability.
Japan is cucked by Jews
>>53308540
Jews fear the samurai
>>53298829
Kek
