Why are modern operating systems so bloated?
Fedora 23 uses about 4 GB RAM to have open Firefox, one terminal emulator, and Dropbox
There's more resources to use and unused ram == wasted ram. You could try arch/debian with a WM.
>>53282430
Debian uses over a gig just for Spotify
>>53282392
>operating systems
>Firefox
>>53282392
More images with higher DPI and bit depth. More complex and layered abstractions leading to increased code size.
Also nobody cares about making things as small as possible unless your doing embedded dev.
>>53282392
>HUR DUR WHAT IS THE PAGE CACHE LOLOL XDDDDDD!!!!1111ONE
Kill yourself immediately.
>>53282667
Even then it's using 1.2 GiB of the (now) 3.3 GiB it's requested from dom0
A few years ago I was able to browse 4chan using only 54 MB RAM and my desktop was riced and everything
>>53282430
>unused ram == wasted ram
Literally this. Better to malloc a bunch of space than run out of memory later on.
>>53282701
What exactly are you doing anyway? looks interesting.
>>53282392
>Fedora
>KDE
Found your problems.
>>53282739
shitposting on 4chan and listening to music
>>53282739
I have 69 tabs of scat porn open. They all feature your mom.
>>53282521
More Indians writing software. They are like monkeys beating on an engine block until it turns over, doing untold damage all the while.
>>53282765
Here, maybe next time you try identity theft you'll look less retarted.
#c.昂紕F凰
>uses KDE
>why is my OS slow and bloated
>dedicated Spotify VM
*tips server*
>>53282836
Um actually the Fedora in question is NOT running KDE, turd
>>53282392
I think your problem is Fedora itself. If you're going to use Linux, use a real distro. Not some bloated piece of shit. You're better off to just use Faildrake or BloatHat. I'm pretty sure they both use less RAM.
>>53282960
My RedHat license just expired
>_>
>>53282392
Minimal Debian uses like 50MB of RAM. NetBSD can run on 4MB.
>>53282900
>uses gnome
>why is my OS slow and bloated
>>53282986
I never said it was slow
>>53282392
Just uninstall that DE and go full tiling WM.
>>53282430
>>53282730
I hate this rationale because a lot of programs that do this don't give it back and don't often need it all.
Unused RAM for me is not wasted, it's meant to be used by OTHER applications, it may be free when I launch program X but I intend to launch program Y and give it some memory too.
When everything caches to RAM it defeats the whole purpose since they all allocate enough to cause page faults, why not just let the OS handle disk caching?
My netbork with 2 gb ram running Winderp 10 32-bit uses ~450 MB on boot, ~670 MB after loading Pale Moon (with shitloads of extensions).
Even then, I don't care much because they finally added ram compression (aka zram) to Windows.
Fedora 23 with Firefox, qbittorrent, file browser and terminal open
>>53282982
Hi jordan thomas
>>53283046
They are talking about the OS handling it. Programs that hoard RAM are just poorly coded and probably have other issues, like memory leaks.
I don't even think about how much RAM my OS is doing. I think all modern ones do a pretty good job of managing it so why waste mental energy worrying about it? You could always just use some stripped down distro with nothing but a wm but you know the experience would be subpar.
>>53283038
Trying to compile awesome right now but having troubles getting the correct version of lua and I am too old to deal with that bullshit any more, I prefer it when things Just Werk
>>53282985
Not this poster but giving an anecdote
One of my laptops running FreeBSD with Openbox and Firefox running used somewhere between 100 and 300MB, most of that was Firefox, I think with just Openbox it idles around 20MB or 40Mb, I forget the exact numbers since I don't use that machine anymore but it had low physical memory so I needed to keep things low, it ran fine and I eventually riced it out with compton etc. too.
I hear good things about NetBSD and OpenBSD resource usage but have yet to try them myself, very content with FreeBSD.
>>53283123
Just use openbox or something.
>>53283154
Can't find that anyone's done the patching for openbox and per-vm coloring for qubes yet. Just some discussions on how it could be done.
That said, KDE is NOT my problem. I like KDE. The Fedora I'm talking about isn't even running KDE.
>>53283123
Why compile when you can get the latest version with dnf?
and i recommend these themes
https://github.com/copycat-killer/awesome-copycats
I thought lunix was supposed to be the low RAM alternative. What gives? Do you have to go ultra bare bones distro that can't do shit to get <1 GB RAM usage?
>>53283200
I need some patches that apply against 3.5.5 - 3.5.6 is in the repos
>>53283221
My ubuntu startup is like 500-600 MB. Chromium/Firefox just eat the shit out of RAM though.
>>53282392
that's what happens when you click on "install everything" checkbox and let shit run in background
I'm on Fedora 23 right now and Firefox with ~15tabs + terminal + music player + file explorer + IM client + a few PDFs open all use under 1.2G
>>53282392
>Having 8+GB of ram and not knowing how the shit actually works...cool
linuxatemyram.com
>>53282392
>use debian with gnome
>iceweasel and multiple tabs open
>1.3gigs of ram used
Seems fine.
>>53284150
Um kid I know more than u
>Have 1gb ram on derptop
>constant freeze cuz 950M+ used
>upgrade to 2gb
>500 mb used with the same amount of tabs / same workload
>think maybe not all the ram used is showing
>look thru free and every memory thing on linux
wat
>>53282392
hmm quebes seems interesting, How fast is it to use with multiple VMs?
>>53284363
Fine, but my rig ain't shit tier or anything
