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People whine about having no privacy - the NSA sees your email, Google is a botnet, advertisers can sell to you, whatever.

But that's not true. You still have privacy from your common neighbour, the people around you, short of the occasional hack.

Technology will always have some kind of security leak, as long as the human element exists.

Instead of trying to clutch at what privacy is left, shouldn't we eliminate it altogether? Erase any concept of hiding whatsoever. Let everyone see what everyone else is doing, anywhere, any time. No more secrets, ever.
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Let's start with you. Post your social security, bank account, and social media usernames and passwords immediately.
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>>53258162
That contradicts with having a freedom, retard.
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>>53258194
In a post-privacy world, if I did this it would be irrelevant - because I'd be able to know who logged in with my account.

>>53258199
>That contradicts with having a freedom, retard.
You're free to do whatever you want, under the constraints whatever current national or international law you like. Everyone can just see you do it, if they want.
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>>53258213
>You're free to do whatever you want
>Except hiding stuff!!
Do you understand the word contradicts?
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>>53258162
Kike spotted.
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We need privacy in out material world, why would we wan to abolish it on internet?
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>>53258162
>No more secrets, ever.

that's not how human nature works kid
if you don't have privacy you don't have freedom to form opinions and ideas, it's a precursor to tyranny
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>>53258162
I don't even wear clothes anymore. Why bother. No locks on my house. No blinds on my windows.

I say hello to every single person I see then give them selfies of me.
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We were doing fine with privacy up until 2009 or so when retarded journalists needed a new clickbait idea and the privacy meme took off hard.

Nobody will ever suggest that money, your address, etc should be made public. What the internet jerked its little dick over was what you like, or your dumb fucking facebook posts.

There are two reasons why people are so angsty over these pointless things:
-Clickbait has convinced them their same worthless searches and posts are worth fighting an internet war over and that they are all "victims" of corporations selling them things they want
-They are secretly faggots and talk about their gay shit or are interested in that gay shit and shift the blame to technology once they get recommended more gay shit related thinking that other people outside of the ones selling them their garbage will know or tell anyone else or care at all.

The same losers have bumper stickers and shirts never shut the fuck up about what they like but the second that same information makes it on the internet, ohh noo I'm a victim now. This type of dumb fuck stays out of the loop for years on things they wanted because they have to have it recommended to them by someone else by chance. You hear the words "Oh I just found out about this product" years out of date versus when it was released.

for local relation, "muh privacy" is essentially about as much of a fucking worthless contrarian buzzword as "botnet" on /g/. When you see someone on this board complain about privacy, especially when the product/service has the same 100 page shitpost about privacy, you know the poster is just being a contrarian cunt and won't accept anything new or good into their lives. Privacy has become near SJW tier logic, try this one

>The product doesn't have a FAQ page on privacy
"It isn't privacy minded so I'm not interested!"

>it does have a page
"...Yeah, well you know if they had to spend this long talking to you about it, it MUST be a lie!"
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>>53258162
If you ever find yourself in a position of power, it's a chilling thought to have a corporation or government agency have the ability to destroy your social standing because you jerk off to tranny midget scat porn.

It's not illegal, but it's enough to ruin potential careers.
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>>53258304
>if you don't have privacy you don't have freedom to form opinions and ideas, it's a precursor to tyranny

If nobody has privacy, then you can see tyranny as it happens and before it reaches a tipping point, because you can see any such plan being implemented.
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>>53258384
>If nobody has privacy

Yeah, government agencies involved in surveillance are well known for their transparent practices, right?
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>>53258162
Getting rid of privacy eliminates personal freedom. The human race without privacy is just a botnet.
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>>53258398
>government agencies
What about companies?

>>53258162
You fucking mong, OP.
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>>53258398
I'm well aware.

My point is that ideally we should make sure nobody - INCLUDING everyone in government - has any privacy.
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>>53258534
I believe government agencies are more likely to cause tyranny than corporations, but then again I don't live in the US.
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>>53258162
>Instead of trying to clutch at what privacy is left, shouldn't we eliminate it altogether? Erase any concept of hiding whatsoever. Let everyone see what everyone else is doing, anywhere, any time. No more secrets, ever.
So, tell me OP, what if everyone could read your thoughts? Or what if you could read everyone's thoughts? I bet you'd wish that they'd just shut up.
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>>53258540
Yeah, that's not fucking happening my boy.
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Let's restate OP's question as a sci-fi scenario.

One day, everyone on Earth (and in space satellites) wakes, infected with permanent, unremovable alien nanobots.

These nanobots let you feel the senses of anyone else on Earth, any time - and doing so is both intuitive and easy.
Additionally, you can also 'rewind' to any point since the nanobots started recording.

What downsides are there, compared to the upsides?
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>>53258543
Yeah, but companies/corporations love secrets. Their know-how, real costs of the crap they're trying to sell you, the quality, "planned obsolescence", cartels and shit.
Now imagine "no more secrets" bullshit going live for everyone.

Of course it wouldn't happen, because it's all about making money, so the common man would have to not have any privacy, yet everyone else would continue as usual. Fucking us over. OP is just a moron (or a well trained consumer drone and a real harm to the basic idea of freedom, which is a tad bit scary).
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>>53258556
Easy pleasures. People will get addicted to sensing those who experience pleasure of drugs or sex or whatever. You will be in the same bucket as extreme waifuists, because why live life if it's so good inside your head.
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No privacy means everyone should walk around naked.
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>>53258608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZknAZxSjU
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Hey I'm sure identify theft will just not be a crime in the future
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>>53258326
Sign me up. I totally think men and women should pee together in one bathroom.
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>>53258999
There are places that do this. If there is security nearby, who cares? Men won't harass or rape.

The issue is women, not men. The odor and other disgusting shit women do in the bathroom is something no man should see, smell or know about.

Source: I cleaned women's toilets many times before.
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>>53258465
Bullshit, the whole God is watching is to intimidate.
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>>53258162
Okay OP, you first. Post your:

>Name
>Address
>Date of birth
>Postal code
>Picture of yourself
>Passport #
>SSN #
>Credit Card #
>Most embarrassing sexual fetish.
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>>53258623
>No privacy means everyone should walk around naked.

>Great idea, can't wait to see all the naked chicks
>Oh wait - fat chicks, grannies too.....yuck
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>>53259914
>>SSN #
Social security number number?
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>>53258540
Unfortunately that's a utopia and it will never happen because some powercuck will screw it up for everyone else
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>>53260390
NO YOU IDIOT
Social Security Number Sharp

DUHHH
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>>53258384
Implying a lot of people are not blindly buying into the tyranny as it happens.

Implying your "b-but this is TYRANNY!!!" screams won't be ignored and even ridiculed.

Implying the supporters of the developing tyranny will not turn the tables on you and call your ideas tyranny even though it's completely illogical and irrational based on what you're trying to tell them.

Implying you can convince them to see the irrationality by trying to reason with them.

Implying you can stop tyranny as it happens. Protip: you can't. You have no weapons against mass hysteria and irrational ideologies that sweep along a significant portion of the population. Reasoning won't work. Logic won't work. Shouting won't work. Nothing works against it. Normies going to normie their delusions to the hilt.

Tyranny happens because enough people uncritically buy into whatever form the tyranny happens to take in any given era.
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>>53258384
There is a fundamental misunderstanding in your post. You assume tyranny is something a small group of people imposes on everyone else. That's not actually how it works. Tyrannies are built on ideas, mostly delusional ones, and these ideas are embraced by the masses. Just like the masses agree to give up their privacy because they "have nothing to hide" and because they experience no immediate negative consequences from it.

That is, the population itself brings on the tyranny by its unwitting and irrational participation in it against its own good because most people are brainless drones who cannot into analytical thinking. They just conform to whatever crazy ideas are popular.
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Except that eliminating privacy WILL limit your personal freedom. There are tons of things everyone does that are completely legal, but also sort of dicey, and can do so freely under gov't surveillance. Giving EVERYONE the ability to see everyone else would make doing anything illegal or even distasteful practically impossible. Everything action you make would have to be both legal and normal to avoid public ridicule.
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>>53259914
Wow, it's amazing, 4chan actually hides your personal data!
>Name
█████
>Address
████ ██████
>Date of birth
██ ██████
>Postal code
████████
>Passport #
█████████████████████████████
>SSN #
███████████████████
>Credit Card #
███████████████████████
>Most embarrassing sexual fetish.
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>>53262900
Never seen something this retarded before.
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>>53262951
>i'm new
Ok
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Legalbro here.

A third of the young people has commited a online crime last year.
This does not include things like the copyright violation in the OP.

Why is privacy necessary you ask? Because the government tends to meddle in everything it sees and tries to control all trends. Smoking for example isnt a big issue. But if the government tracks eveeyones health statistics then smoking becomes an issue. The same can go for gaming which is bad for your school grades. Posting confrontational content on 4chan which makes some users unhappy. And so on.

The more the government knows the more big brother policies you get.
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>>53264326
A third of the people between 12 and 22. Crimes like logging in on someone elses network without permission. Using a false identity. Sending nude pictures of someone else without permission. Etc.

http://www.nu.nl/internet/4223168/derde-jongeren-pleegde-afgelopen-jaar-online-misdrijf.html
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> tfw
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No privacy = no ability to do anything the powers that be don't want you doing. Opens the door to totalitarianism. Idiot.
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With the vast amount of different people with different views, there are some things that shouldn't be shared with others because of fear of being hated by others.
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