Costs ~120 dollars more
Very small improvement for fps
>maybe its good for future-proofing?
>>53210364
>maybe its good for future-proofing?
of course, goy
http://www.ocaholic.co.uk/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=3948
theres really no difference in FPS
even the proponents of i7 talk mostly about occasional FPS dips, not some consistent increase
and even that in some games (most games are fine with 4 threads)
it all comes down on how rich you are
but I am of an opinion that if you are going for regular i7, then you should rather go for socket 2011 and get the real deal, like i7 5820k, it should be similarly priced and you aget actual real 6 cores and 12 threads, with higher quality chip, bettter temps and overclocking, no thermal paste but soldering die on heatspreader...
mobo might cost you extra $50 too though, but come on, if you were going for regular i7 that should not be a deal breaker
>>53210369
Wouldn't it be smarter to just get an i5 k and overclock it until you have to upgrade again?
>>53210364
Not everything is created for videogames, retard.
Not every aspect of computers is about gaming performance.
>>53210422
Is making the move from an FX 8350 to an i5 a smart one? Considering I plan to run crossfire in the future and my cpu struggles with one card.
>for fps
Because what else could anyone use a cpu for?
>>53210422
I'm on the verge of getting a 5820K but I'm always afraid that it's the sorted out shit tier 5960Xs and they will fail within a couple of years
If you're playing something physics or AI heavy, it'll make a difference.
But also, and most especially, this:
>>53210448
>>53210451
>>53210455
if you dont need it now then its not a smar move, zen will be here at the end of 2016/2017
maybe refresh of skylake will also serve better
8350 should serve you currently without problems for 95% of things usual anon do
>>53210491
>that it's the sorted out shit tier 5960Xs and they will fail within a couple of years
heh, just because theres $1000 alternative that probably got better bins does not mean that rest are some rejects
I would imagine that numbers they need for 5820k are by order of magnitute larger than 5960X
so if they need from some batch 2,000 eight cores, and 20,000 6 cores, because they would not sell that many $1000 cpus... then the first 2000 that pass the test on all cores will get put in to 5960x bin and rest no matter if they would pass or not would go in to 5820k
this is 22nm which is rather mature enough to probably have really great success rate with silicone
and also ultimatly, theres nothing to die soon or something, your chip would just not OC so highly or draw bit more power... CPUs dont die... at least current ones dont
>>53210582
Yeah but I have an AM3+ socket, zen will be AM4. so its an upgrade either way. What would you do anon?
>>53210364
It is future proof in the sense that you probably will have more than good enough computing power for nearly a decade or more, but if you are a gamer then in about 4 years you might run into bottlenecks given the current trend in GPUs. It will probably last a decade tho (even i5s will.
ebin thread
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100% yes.
Anything newer than sandy bridge is a 100% meme. If you need CPU power you can buy multisocket sandybridge workstations / servers which will destroy a consumer i7 build at lower cost.
For gaming you literally don't need anything faster than first gen i7, unless you're running multiple high end gpus, then you'll need sandy bridge just for the chipset, due to x58 pci bandwidth limitations. But an i7 920 from 2008 still won't bottleneck any single GPU.
So yes, skylake is a 100% meme for consumers.
>>53210364
>fps
>implying i7 is made for gaming
>>>/v/
i7 are not for gayming
>>53210831
What is a consumer i7 for then? Why not just grab 2 X5650s and a mobo off ebay for well under $200? Why spend $500+ on a new i7+mobo when you can have 3 times the logical cores, and 75% of the single threaded performance for 1/3 the cost? Buying new makes zero sense these days when the average CPU speed per dollar is declining year over year.
>>53210690
If just gaming wait or go balls out for a 2011 chip, I had an 8350 sold it and then got a 1231 which was an upgrade but if I couldn't sell it I would've been fine waiting to save for 2011
>>53210904
Im gona sell my ddr3 RAM, mobo and cpu to some guy I know
>>53210798
>But an i7 920 from 2008 still won't bottleneck any single GPU.
Yes it will, especially AMD cards, that's quite an old CPU now. Modern shit is probably a good 50% faster.
>>53210981
Haha no, it won't. You can easily overclock them to 4Ghz on air. Even the latest games will probably not even use 50% of any thread at 60fps.
In short, yes. Only games like Arma 3 will benefit from better single core performance. If you need to do HEVC encoding then a haswell-e or xeon processor is a better choice.
>the only purpose of a cpu is to boost muh FPS in le MLG esports gaymen
I bet you retards have 32gb of LED giant heat spreader RAM for gaymes too
>>53210981
the most demanding game I played is TW3 on my i7-920, with an r9 290, at 1440p ultra it loaded about 4 cores with ~20-30% load.
>>53210364
>4 cores
>future-proof
>>53211134
For the near future? definitely
>>53211423
>near-future
If you're going to be upgrading every 1-2 years "future-proofing" is a waste of time and money.
>>53211518
How many years you think it will take before 4 cores aren't enough? Barely anything can properly use more than 2 cores now.
And the i7s even have their stupid 8 virtual cores.
>>53211581
um, zero?
I have HT disabled so yeah it doesn't matter if the only CPU intensive thing you're doing is gaming.
>>53210364
>Is the i7 a meme?
No, hyperthreading is important for any serious workstation.
>Very small improvement for fps
Oh. >>>/v/
>>53212074
Sure thing buddy
If you have a decent processor (sandry bridge or newer) you're much better off spending that money on a better graphics card. The impact will be much better on your gaming experience.
GET THE FUCK OFF /g/
THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND YOUR VIDEO GAYMES
>>53211078
>mfw I got the autistic gaymen heat spreader babydick compensator deluxe RAM because it was $40 cheaper on sale
At least I don't have one of those retarded cases with a window so I never have to see it.
Actually, if you have a really high end GPU and it's no longer the bottleneck you'll be able to get serious performance boosts out of the i7. Of course at that point you won't care about spending $120 more.
>>53212326
Not true at all, unless by "serious performance boost" you mean 1-2 fps in a few rare scenarios.
>>53212326
If your GPU is no longer the bottleneck you could just increase your graphics settings.
>>53212185
>guy calls you a retard
>you start validating yourself to him and playing into his frame of beliefs
>>53210364
>ITT: Anons that have no idea what changes are coming with DX12
Just get a Xeon chip?
>>53212551
The Sandy Bridge E5-1620 can be had for like $80. A motherboard to go with it, though, is much more expensive.
>>53210364
>MMMMUH VIDYUR GAYMS
>EVERYTHING MUST CATER TO MMMUH VIDR GAMS
fuck off retard
>>53212455
>DX12
>Botnet 10
>>53211035
I have an i7 4790 and Rise of Tomb Raider does.
>>53212354
Why are you lying ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaB1dqYv_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g_t_gJnavI
Just look at some fucking benchmarks, majority does
>>53213052
Did you even watch your own videos? They affirm what I said. At 120+fps they were getting only a couple fps more. And in the witcher there was literally no difference.
>>53212455
yes, in dx12 cpu performance will matter even less
Processors havent been a limiting factor in most gaming rigs for years. You can run almost any modern games on a 5 year old processor without a hitch. I have an i7 in my laptop, which i use for a reasonable amount of stats and simulations. The extra power helps a lot, along with having not shit ram. In my desktop, i just went with an i5k. Different uses, different priorities.
If you want dank fps gains, gpus are 90% of what matters.
Best bang for buck CPU right now is the Xeon E3-1231.
>>53213178
Agreed, you can even get 8 coars more guder if you buy two. It's even cheaper than a 5930k.
>>53210364
> Very small improvement for fps
> i7
i7 is not for videogames.
>>53213268
Whats it for then?
>>53210798
>For gaming you literally don't need anything faster than first gen i7
Nice meme
>>53213361
I use it for highly parallel calculations, including, but not limited to, tachyon rendering and openMPI
>>53213445
And the intel shill is revealed.
>>53210831
>>53212100
>>53213541
>>53212135
>these retards actually think I'll go back to /v/ just because they told me
lmao we fucking run this place
you have no power here
>>53213626
>if you disagree with the thing I said that was wrong, you are a shill
epic
just use fucking xeons god fucking damnit
an i7 is an E5 washout, essentially bad E5 processors become i7s
I actually went down from an i7. My first build I am about to buy parts for this weekend.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gPRZL
>>53213558
>tachyon renderi
Are you trying to spot cloaked Romulan warbirds or something ?
>>53213558
>highly parallel calculations
>done on CPU
You're doing it wrong
>>53213785
>Xeons
Thanks anon. X5450 reporting in.
>>53213869
dual e5-2687w reporting in
>>53213636
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I do 3d and game development and it still is not enough.
>>53213361
Video editing, other multithreaded tasks
>>53214407
sigh
that's what xeons are for
what size l3 cache do you have? 4mb? lol
fucking pathetic
you should fucking kill yourself and go to hell
fucking faggot piece of shit
>>53214407
How much faster does your "video editing" go now that you have an overpriced consumer CPU?
>i7 4790k used to cost as low as 280$ at some point
>Suddenly the price got jacked up to the 300's and kept rising until it almost reached 400$ and the price never went down ever since
>The 6700k is almost 400 from the get go
AMD please get your shit together with Zen I am begging you. Cause this shit is happening cause there is no competition right now.
>>53212455
Vulkan is the future you pleb
>>53211035
>Haha no, it won't
You're a fucking moron. A modern i3 is more powerful than an LGA1366 i7 920 overall.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/47?vs=143
>>53215602
Somewhat untrue, but the truth is even sadder. When it came out, the 6700k could be had for as low as $320 at Microcenter, and was briefly there during black friday as well. Since then it shot up in price and has only recently starting coming down, very slowly. It's now back at around MSRP.
But yeah, AMD pls....
i5 6600k price has surprisingly been somewhat okay through all this though, or at least in my area.
>>53216125
>i5 6600k price has surprisingly been somewhat okay through all this though, or at least in my area.
It costs about 260-270 here which is certainly NOT okay. The 6600k should cost 250 max.
The i7's are fucked beyond belief though.
>>53210364
>all technology is made for children's games
Please an hero.
>>53210364
>>maybe its good for future-proofing?
when will this meme end
buying overpowered hardware in the name of "future proofing" is dumb as shit
>>53216075
>being this autistic
Who said it was faster than a "modern" i3? A i7 920 is still way more than necessary for 99% of tasks including high end gaming.
>not being able to afford an i7
http://www.microcenter.com/product/413248/Core_i7_4770K_35GHz_Socket_LGA_1150_Boxed_Processor
>fps
is this a bait thread?
I've long since lost track of when idiots are idiots or intellectuals pretending to be idiots
>>53216218
>Who said it was faster than a "modern" i3? A i7 920 is still way more than necessary for 99% of tasks including high end gaming.
>being this retarded
The point was the i7 920 isn't nearly as powerful as idiots would like to remember it being. Even overclocked, it'll still be a bottleneck in games when paired with a modern, decent GPU.
Think of it this way: there was just a thread on here that everyone was shitting on OP because he had a decent GPU but he had G3258 (it was a guts thread), yet you wouldn't bat an eye at someone with a i7 920 + a mid-high/high-tier GPU? Congratulations, you're retarded.
(Yes, even the G3258 is noticeably better at many workloads than an i7 920, ESPECIALLY gaming.)
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/47?vs=1265
>>53216340
m8. you're a fucking idiot
>>53216340
>>53216218
Ah, it scrolled by page 1 again. It wasn't the OP, some guy in the middle.
>>53199515
Ti 980 + G3258, yet most retards wouldn't bat an eye if ti was a TI 980 + i7 920, even though the G3258 would produce better results.
>>53216340
>it'll still be a bottleneck in games when paired with a modern, decent GPU.
No, it won't. In simple, real time applications like games, skylake will be probably 25-50% faster in single threaded applications at best. Not even the latest games will even come close to stressing an i7-920, let alone any modern cpu.
>>53216403
>I know nothing
Minecraft can stress a modern CPU.
>>53210451
FOOL!
It's always about gaming performance!
>>53216458
Lmao, are you trolling? My old i7-920 rig with a 5850 got hundreds of fps in minecraft.
>>53216472
Yeah what this guy said
don't you know computers were invented for games?
>>53216513
muh chunkgen
i have a i7 920 OC to 3.8, i happen to pickup a second 290x REALLY cheap so i have them in crossfire, i thought id have to upgrade my cpu but honestly i dont see a point
in battlefront i get 110-140 fps with everything on ultra and my cpu will max out at 70% usage, in BF4 with mantle i get 140-200 fps
>>53213868
You don't understand my field.
>>53210364
>Is the i7 a meme?
its got power for what its supposed to do, not gayming, even though is still very powerful at it..
>>53210364
>Very small improvement for fps
There is no improvement over an i5 from the same generation, and I say this currently on an i7.
I wouldn't go so far as to call it a meme, however getting the latest i7 isn't something you need to worry about in a build. It's more just one of those things you can get if you have money to blow, but not something you really need for anything.
So would you guys recommend an i3 6100 or an intel g4400. The only gaming I do these days are Kerbal Space Prgram and Space Engineers.
Single core performance is really important but I am in a bit of a strict low budget.
