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I don't use a smartphone but would like to listen to music while I'm outside.
Sansa Clip isn't really sold anymore and I'm not sure if the new models are any good (Clip Jam, Clip Sport)
What would you recommend to use without overspending?
>>53136442
What would you do if a retard thought we are consumer product reviews and recommender?
Tell them to fuck off and die.
>Fuck and off and die.
>>53136452
/g/ is all about consumer electronics and ricing Linux distros. Threads about real technology are few and far between.
>>53136442
Just get a cheap Chinese mp3 player. Or, you know, start using a smartphone.
iPod Classic with SSD upgrade
>>53136471
Super true.
I would recommend an older Galaxy, they can be had for cheap from use sites, they have expandable storage, you can throw cyanogen mod on them for great battery life and functionality as well as find an excellent music app. I have an S3 with a 64GB card in it that has CM12.1 in it and it works great. Long battery life, smooth operation and Poweramp has great equalizer settings.
Strongly recommend this route. (I even recommend an S3 but that's up to personal preference.)
>>53136647
Yeah, I might eventually get some kind of smartphone, it just feels like an unnecessary purchase because I wouldn't be using it very much at all. All I really want is a way of listening to music when not at home.
>>53136706
You... It's gonna live in airplane mode. You won't be using it for anything other than media consumption. You can torrent music on it, listen to it, then put it in your pocket. They are less than a hundred bucks on used sites. Expandable functionality. Don't think of it as a phone as much as an Android powered media device that can potentially have a mobile connection of you so choose.
COWON PLENUE 1/M/D if you have money
Any other cowon player if you poor
>>53136514
>iPod Classic with SSD upgrade
This desu fampai. That's what I'm planning to do myself. I'm currently trying to get a "broken" one for free so I can fix it.
Clips are great but new ones don't support Rockbox and likely never will because they're shit, and old ones weren't exactly built to last, especially dat fucking jack, and now cost up to $100 used. At least ipods are tough and very widespread, and they support Rockbox.
It's either that, or try your luck with Chinese players, or fall for the audiophile meme.
>>53136959
I wouldn't call myself an audiophile, but have some music in FLAC and enjoy good sound quality.
An Apple iPod seems like a decent option right now. The 7th gen ones seem a little too expensive and unnecessary, so I'll get an older one cheap maybe.
>>53137016
Fiio M3
>>53136959
I like my ipod classic but cant stand how fucking bulky it is, impossible for gym use whereas Clip+ is literally perfect
Buy a $20 Android burner phone and don't put minutes on it
>>53138721
no offense but android it pretty shit for playing music.
Be a man and use a real DAP
>>53137016
The DACs in the new iPods suck.
Get a 5/5.5g, they're cheap and easily "rockboxable".
They have wolfson DACs inside. They're pretty rad DACs.
New Sansa stuff can't be rock boxed. You really have to track down the older stuff, which is going for scalper prices now.
I've always found android awful for music, the volume levels are all over the place.
>>53138477
>not rockboxable
I had high hopes for this one
>>53138916
>I've always found android awful for music, the volume levels are all over the place.
Most of the music apps I've used don't even handle gapless files properly. Plus the interfaces are pretty but not functional for large libraries.
Rockbox >>> Android for music unless you are a casual.
>>53138794
Why would I be offended by this
![4940808762_c6282a001a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/y6dPq1u.jpg "4940808762_c6282a001a[1].jpg")
>travel back in time like6-7 years
>buy a gogear spark
>encode all your losles music to glorious WMA masterrace
>Sansa Clip isn't really sold anymore
Buy used or refurbished.
>I'm not sure if the new models are any good (Clip Jam, Clip Sport)
If you don't want a Clip+, find another player supported by rockbox and check reviews on some audiophile sites.
>>53138876
How's this one called?
>>53136442
xDuoo is the modern day replacement for clipp. Google it up, I don't know if you can get it from somewhere else than directly from chinks though.
>>53140048
Are those rockable? Also, X2 looks like a Clip knock-off.
>>53140124
Nope but chinks make software upgrades for those so there is that. Besides xDuoo software isn't even bad enough to need to be rockboxed. clipp was fucking garbage software wise which is why rockbox was the only choice.
It's a chink player, obviously it will look like a knock-off. It has few faults but it's very solid player for cheap otherwise. It has actually pretty decent amp for such a small thing too.
>>53140184
>clipp was fucking garbage software wise which is why rockbox was the only choice.
Huh? The original clip+ soft is pretty decent.
>>53136442
Just here to confirm the new models are indeed shit
It's amazing how companies manage to squeeze everything for profit so much technology literally evolves backwards with them
>>53140241
It depends on your idea of decent. For me it wasn't decent, it didn't play certain file types and I didn't like the UI. But to each their own I guess.
I just bouhgt one of these: http://www.amazon.com/AGPtEK-G02-portable-Clip%C2%A0player-supporting/dp/B016ZZFWOC/ref=sr_1_8?s=mp3&ie=UTF8&qid=1456252880&sr=1-8&keywords=agptek
It's pretty good, takes about 5 seconds to boot up though.
Buy a Craigslist iPod Touch, and replace the battery yourself if needed.
The interface is just miles better than anything else for music/podcasts/books.
By the way, does anyone know if I can set rockbox to switch to the first song on the list and stop when the last file is played instead of clearing the now playing screen and saying there's "nothing to resume"? It's a bit annoying, and other players I've used were working like that.
Also, best theme?
>>53140334
>no screen
>small battery
But that's shit, anon. It's like a poor man's clip+.
Looking at the website, this Clip Jam just looks like the newer version of the Clip I had ages ago.
>>53140451
I don't need a screen (just eats battery and allows an ingress point for water) and the battery is the same size as the sansa clip players
>>53140451
http://www.amazon.com/AGPtEK-Version-Playback-Lossless-Supports/dp/B00SD18E60/ref=sr_1_1?s=mp3&ie=UTF8&qid=1456252880&sr=1-1&keywords=agptek
probably the last nokia without internet and facebook etc
>>53136514
>iPod Classic with SSD upgrade
Is that ez? I have an 80gb classic with rockbox, how big of an ssd fits in there?
>>53136943
The Plenue D isn't even that pricey, and might just be the best one.
>>53136647
There are better players out there than poweramp as far as the equalization goes.
There's also V4A, which is system wide. There's the lame stock EQ, and the more unintuitive, but powerful convolver.
Android is a better platform for sound quality than whatever in-house design can be designed by a small company.
>>53140014
iBasso DX80
the main issue I have with Mp3 players is the lack of crossfeed/speaker emulation. to me it seems like such an elementary feature. i have very sensitive ears(autism, not joking) and hard panning is physically painful for me. the soundscape of listening on headphones also sounds "wrong" to me in most cases.
>>53140639
1.8"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8R03P76717&Tpk=1.8%22%20SSD
>>53140557
>I don't need a screen
A screen allows you to browse through a music collection and pick whatever you want to listen at the moment.
>just eats battery
OLED screens don't use much energy and they are on for brief moments.
>allows an ingress point for water
Uh, huh? You know lots of devices with screens are IP68 certified?
>battery is the same size as the sansa clip players
Can't speak of latter models, but the clip+ has a 300mAh battery, which is almost twice the size of what you posted (160mAh). With rockbox, it lasts 17h, 70% more (17h vs 10h).
>>53140567
>70 hours
Probably while playing a 64kbps mp3.
>>53140673
Rockbox has that (called stereo width).
>>53140758
yep, that's why I only go with rockboxable mp3 players. but sansa killed it with their new players.
>>53140701
1tb ipod classic dayum
>>53140713
>70 hours
>Probably while playing a 64kbps mp3
>what is an asymmetric codec
>>53140713
>With rockbox, it lasts 17h, 70% more (17h vs 10h).
iirc those rockbox battery life tests are usually done without headphones plugged in, which would make quite a difference
Get Android device, install non-curry version of pic related, enjoy.
>>53138968
>Rockbox >>> Android for music unless you are a casual.
this is so true it hurts
>>53140877
Go on.
>>53140928
>>53140713
rockbox dev here
try some of the latest builds, Mikhail's freq scaling patches have been applied which should increase battery life by about 50%. It opens the door to potentially doubling battery life (over 20 hours on a clip+) once voltage scaling is dialed in
I've got a clip sport. It's completely inferior to a clip+ with rockbox. The buttons are too easy to press on the face and navigating is slow.
>>53141020
I'm using stable, 3.13. Do you mean http://build.rockbox.org/ ?
If I already have the bootloader, do I just copy over the .rockbox dir?
>>53141121
yes
>>53138877
>wolfson DACs inside. They're pretty rad DACs.
>DACs
This meme needed to be dead years ago.
>>53138968
Rockbox is pretty limited in what it can do.
>>53141020
>>53141121
>>53141135
Relevant patch:
http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/1062/
>>53140928
I've got a clip+ with rockbox, and it most certainly can not take more than 8 hours of continuous playback. Not FLAC either, mp3, but I've got no idea about how many kbps. It need to be mentioned that it's more than three years old now, but I remember the battery losing capacity fast in the first year.
>>53141153
>Rockbox is pretty limited in what it can do.
But it does what it does perfectly.
>>53141135
Cool. Thanks. Hope it's safe to use.
>tfw lost clip+ charger cable
My Sandisk E280 is Nine years old and still plays like new.
>>53141232
>tfw lost clip+ charger cable
>being this retarded
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-USB-2-0-Cable-A-Male/dp/B00NH11N5A
>>53141202
By the way, what's more efficient to decode, FLAC or MP3?
>>53141232
Clip+ uses a standard MiniUSB cable, you can get one at any electronics/computer hardware store.
>>53141232
>tfw $.72
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hi-Speed-80cm-USB-2-0-Male-A-to-Mini-B-5-pin-Charging-Cable-Hot-swappable-LF-/161809202220?hash=item25ac947c2c:g:wVYAAOSw0JpV4SyF
>>53141020
I'm running stable on my clip+, dev builds had bugged opus playback by adding a delay and songs starting at around the :03 mark, it is still the case?
>>53141020
cool, thanx
>>53141269
>what's more efficient to decode, FLAC or MP3
FLAC
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison
>>53141158
Is this merged into master and included in dev build? Or do I need to build myself?
>>53141020
What's the status of the Fiio X1 port?
>>53141020
Is this relevant for ipod classic also or just sansa clip?
>>53141304
Yeah, but i meant, power-usage-wise.
>>53141202
Yeah, I only saw that after I was done typing. Trying it now.
>>53141232
Sleep well, pupper
>>53141317
it's merged, although there's a follow-up patch that hasn't been accepted yet
>>53141340
just sansa (amsv2), although there's been some work on iPod power management
>>53141351
FLAC, faster decode time means less power used
>>53141336
not familiar with that port
>>53141286
not that I'm aware of
>>53141445
I love you fucking guys.
>>53141232
>clip+ doesn't come with cable
>dig up old mini-usb cable
>cable is weak as fug, fails to mount storage and sdcard 99% of the time, have to unmounts internal storage in order to add anything to sdcard
Fuck this damn cable, I don't know why the sansaclip wants so much power, makes me miss my ipod classic with its big powerful proprietary connector.
So my clip+ stopped recognizing the microsd card. I updated from 3.whatever to the latest and that didn't work. Wiped everything clean and tried again but nothing. Then I used the latest dev build and it works fine now.
Any idea what happened?
>>53141445
>not that I'm aware of
This was the bug i was talking about:
>forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=50844.0
Happened to me on dev builds but the stable build was alright.
>>53141488
So it's the device's fault you have a faulty connector?
Buy a new one you retard.
>>53141445
I'm and idiot and I can't figure out how to upgrade rockbox. I've got version 3.13 already on. Wat do?
>>53141710
Do this
>>53141121
>>53141726
The new one's 'eqs' dir is empty. If I save the old(3.13) one, can I just copy it back into the new one?
>>53141772
just copy over the .rockbox directory and everything will merge
>>53141772
I had 3.13 on a clip+ and just dragged the .rockbox folder into the root directory and overwrote the conflicting files. Worked fine
>>53141786
Thank you, O lord of portable music players!
>>53140977
>digital equalizer
>>53141153
> I don't need a DAC, I only listen to pure digital 1s and 0s!
How else do you want your music to be converted to analogue?
