http://blog.htcvive.com/2016/02/unveiling-the-vive-consumer-edition-and-pre-order-information/
Vive - $799, pre-order available 10am est on monday 2/29th. Shipping april 1st.
Comes with job simulator and fantastic contraption if you pre-order.
RECOMMENDED PC SPECS
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GPU: - NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 970 / AMD Radeon™ R9 290 equivalent or greater
CPU: - Intel® i5-4590 / AMD FX 8350 equivalent or greater
RAM: - 4GB+
Video Output: - HDMI 1.4 or DisplayPort 1.2 or newer
USB Port: - 1x USB 2.0 or greater port
Operating System: - Windows 7 SP1 or newer
If you Zuckerfags stil gonna buy a rift at this point you are beyond autistic.
>>53104594
im getting pretty excited about vr, just checked out fantastic contraption and if they do a game like robocraft with vr that would be insane
>>53105268
Just a matter of time man, i think most of the Vive games so far looks really fun with roomscale tracking. Just check out Node's VR videos and also Modbox, you are in for a hoot.
>$799
>799 dollarydoos
Yeah this shit's gonna tank.
>>53105601
Just as hard as Oculus then?
>>53105633
Yep.
VR is kill.
Fuck you are all so insufferable. Vr was never going to be cheap. 799 is extremely well priced considering the kind of tech we are getting here. Fuck. Even monitors cost more than this and offer less
>>53105521
>>53105601
>>53105660
Fuck not everything has to be kid purchase driven to make it.
I will own both most likely. And know several others who will be getting at least one of the platforms.
May take a few gens to get to kid pricing levels. Until then, save your fucking shekels. A little each month will let you play eventually. And jesus you would think it might inspire some of you poor fucks to get a job of some kind to pay for your high priced toys mommy and daddy wont pony up for. Could even only work long enough until you get the money for your goal..then quit. Though why stay a broke fag.
>>53104594
Can I get a decent experience with a GTX 960?
>>53108214
>960
>>53104594
Where were you when VR was killed by greedy companies?
>>53108214
Not in Ubisoft VR games
>>53105790
A phone display and a fucking gyroscope and 2 lenses. Wow.
>>53104594
>Comes with job simulator and fantastic contraption if you pre-order.
Dunno what those are or if just sarcastic but who gives a flying fuck what token games are bundled when you're buying an 800 dollar device.
>>53105790
i got a fucking 27 inch lg ips 1080p 60hz monitor for 170$
>>53104594
>AMD Radeon™ R9 290
>AMD FX 8350
I have exactly that. Lucky me.
Looks so fucking cool though
>>53104594
this shit is gonna flop hard as fuck, and i would never pay that much, but my job is giving me a free one that im going to mostly use to play racing sims and space truck simulator
>>53109294
What job give you a free Vive?
>>53109269
I'm so tired of seeing this disgusting picture
It's been around for more than half a decade and it won't fucking GO
>>53109309
game development
They want me to add vr support to the game im working on
>>53109319
Those glasses/dive thingy whatever it is don't actually exist in the SAC anime though so it's all I got
>>53109319
Like this one?
>>53109369
Eurgh, you can tell from his bone structure he has the worst kind of autism.
>>53105790
it was going to be cheap at one point but both companies decided that with cheap components they wouldn't be able to convince anyone that VR was worth it.
however i think they fucked it. market penetration is more important. oculus has facebook money and should have sold it at below cost. nobody is going to make 'proper' games for a system that not many people will own.
>>53104594
>job simulator
>>53109418
It's just a slap in the face for wagecucks. Don't sweat it my brother in welfare.
>>53109397
Eurgh, you can tell by this post commenting on bone structure that he has the worst kind of autism.
>>53109469
Don't bully me EVERRRR again ok?
>>53109418
So that Bernie cucks can get a grasp of what a job is.
>>53109199
>1080p
>60hz
There's your problem. Look up a high quality 120/144hz 1440p monitor pricing and get back to me.
When's the vidya coming?
>>53109199
>>53109537
I spent $180 on a benq 24" 1080p 144hz monitor lol
>>53109549
Hopefully soon, but who knows. As someone who has one and has spent a lot of time in it, that's been my biggest concern yet. Most games releasing for it are pretty casual mini game/arcade type experiences, with the exception of Hover Junkers, Budget Cuts, and Elite which is an existing game.
>>53109269
What's the point of a HMD like that if your eyes are already artificial?
>>53109730
With the one that's in the original movie it had its own processing power and added extra features when worn. I think those are meant to just be sunglasses which also have debatable usefulness to a cyborg but whatever.
>>53109586
enjoy your shit colors and tn display scrub
>>53109418
It's actually quite a bit of fun. It's a job simulator in the same way surgeon simulator is.
>>53104594
Based Vive.
If they can keep shipping down to $50 im sold. Greedy little cunts Oculus stacked almost $200 on top of the rift for Aussies.
>claim to sell at cost
>shaft the international customer base with egregious 'tax' and 'shipping' which amounts to a higher price than simply importing from the states
And they are cucking everyone with practically no room scale or VR controllers on release. Still cant believe how much Oculus managed to spurn given their lead in the hype machine.
>>53104594
do they ship worldwide or just us?
>>53109920
And what happens when the increase in cost is just as much if not more? What happens to "Based Vive"? There's already good evidence out there that Europeans are getting screwed over.
>>53109920
Tax and shipping adds $85 for me in CA. Apparently the HTC store has free shipping for USA, not confirmed for Vive yet though. Makes it a no brainier for me if free ship and no tax.
>>53109822
lol I play a lot of cs go so like it's more important
when I want nice colors I have a 27" qnix so like it's cool
>>53110089
Then I retract my statement and both companies are greedy cunts.
But what is this evidence? Have they leaked shipping plans too?
>>53110126
lol
>>53110101
>no tax
>in CA
Good one.
>Still just 2160 by 1200
I know games can't run at much higher, but half the reason I want this is for video, which will run just fine.
Use an even multiple and scale games down.
If I'm paying twice the dk2 price, at least give me twice the dk2 resolution.
>>53110159
A man can dream can't he
>>53110133
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/46ximb/xpost_rviveunfortunately_htc_vive_will_not_cost/
Don't think this is the original source where I saw it but basically says the same thing.
>>53110230
I'd rather stay in the real world than have my dreams constantly be crushed. Daydreaming is a different story.
>>53107305
>Fuck not everything has to be kid purchase driven to make it.
It is when it's marketed at kids. It would be a different story if marketing was jerking off about its applications in things like flight simulation, medical training, scientific visualization or CAD, but instead they're jerking off to gaymes to please a tiny egotistical subset of a market mostly dominated by teenagers, 20 somethings and other low-income consumers
>>53110358
Yes im seeing reports of higher EU prices. But its still to be determined how much is down to VAT and if they will choose to stick an arbitrary Australia tax as well.
>>53104594
So both vive and rift are dogshit overprice garbage. What's left? Cardboard?
>>53110396
Who says they aren't? I see articles all the time about non-gaming usage. Every time Cuckerberg talks about VR he brings that shit up. You also have ads about artists using Tilt Brush.
>>53110543
>What's left?
Waiting for the second wave when prices are lowered, the tech is improved and more than a few gimmicky games have support.
>tfw this is the smart option but im too impatient for it
>>53110618
That won't be an option if nobody buys first gen devices.
>>53109159
What is r&d
>>53109369
why the fuck are his feet so big
>>53107305
Hooray techie autismos in the dozens will buy it.
That has nothing to do with serious market penetration for a consumer product.
It's dead before it hits the shelves.
>>53111333
You know what they say about big feet
>>53104594
>htc needs 1x usb 2.0 port
>rift needs 4x usb 3.0 ports
EXPLAIN.
>>53111535
Valve came up with a better and more ingenious design for tracking. It basically only needs to send the tracking data which is nothing since it only tracks the timing of lasers hitting the photo sensors on the headset.
With Oculus they went with the more obvious design and use cameras to track via IR. They need to send high resolution IR video to be processed for high quality tracking, they could probably have developed something that works in camera to only send the data but that would add even more to costs.
>>53111535
>>rift needs 4x usb 3.0 ports
Wat. It uses 2 usb and 1 hdmi for video.
Also what are these other cables for if the vive only uses 1 usb?
>>53111354
>implying it will ever hit shelves because its fucking sold out for the next year
>>53111721
One is power, one is USB, and one is HDMI. It all goes into a single cable on the back. There's also another USB port there extra for accessories.
The 4 port requirement from Oculus is because it comes with the Xbox controller which needs a port. The other 3 is for two cameras and the headset itself assuming you get Touch.
>>53111609
oculus is going for future applications in the visual solution they have
see: hand tracking, body tracking, object tracking
our software needs to catch up but in gen 2 I think oculus has valve beat as far as "features"
lighthouse can only do so much. everything else needs to be on the headset for valve.
>>53111833
>I think oculus has valve beat as far as "features"
I don't think so. You'd be nuts to think Valve doesn't know this and isn't doing R&D for full body tracking. They have two years at least to see where the market goes in terms of development.
Oculus isn't going for IR because it's "future proof", it's because they already invested so heavily in it.
Dead on arrival just like the Oculus, yes they will sell out at the start, so did the Zune, early tech always sells out.
Price point + $1500+ PC puts both Oculus and Rift both DoA.
Both of them needed to cut their losses and launch at $499 Market penetration is the most important thing for new tech.
>>53111929
That $1500 quote includes the headset itself. A 4690k and 290/970 PC doesn't cost $1500. In 6 months when Polaris and Pascal is out and when this is actually available beyond pre-orders it will be even less.
>>53111833
>lighthouse can only do so much
What do you mean by this?
I would say it's the other way around as lighthouse is infinitely scalable, the beacons just send out lasers , and you can track as many devices in their area as you can fit ie. two, three or four people all with headsets and controllers can be in the one area being tracked by just two lighthouse emitters.
>>53111929
The oculus rift sold out months worth of inventory in 1 day.
>>53111967
He's talking about tracking things other than the headset i.e making the cameras both act like Kinects for body tracking. It's inevitable since Oculus bought the company that developed the first Kinect.
>>53107305
>don't want to spend money on overpriced first gen garbage that will undoubtedly fail at penetrating the mainstream market, thus will have very little overall support
>HURR FUCKIN POORFAG GET A JOB DURRR
>>53111987
Oh, well I remember seeing a tweet from someone working on the Vive (maybe Chet?) who posted about playing with the tiny receiver diodes that are on the Vive and controllers and referenced them being possible to use to track anything, so there is that.
I've used different kinds of camera/IR tracking, from the original EyeToy, to new and old Kinect and Leap Motion, and none of them have impressed me at all in their accuracy and consistency. Maybe there are breakthroughs to be made, but at this point I don't think that non-transmitter+receiver tracking is going to be that good.
>799 dollars
>Not that many games
>Need to upgrade my computer to run it thus adding to the cost.
I thought I was going to be a first adopter but this thing is sitting at twice my budget. I'll have to wait for the next generation version of this if it ever comes out.
>>53112103
I don't have a doubt that Valve will come up with some crazy way to track that blows minds somehow.
Have you tried the new Orion update for Leap Motion? Apparently it's massively improved. I'm eager to try it out myself. My motherboard needed to be RMA'd right before the update so stuck with a shitty laptop atm. Terrible timing, I finally had a reason to dust off my DK2.
>>53112163
Not him but I have. Orion is great. It's like what you should have expected from Leap Motion back when you got it, but then realized it was shit. It's not shit anymore. It just works. With that said, it could still be better, and it won't replace motion controllers.
>>53112163
I haven't used my Leap for a long time. I pre-ordered it when it first came out, and used it sporadically for a year, mostly to show friends, but never really interested me or had any obvious practical uses. Maybe I'll plug it back in one day.
>>53112163
Leap motion isn't that useful because your hands vanish when you're not looking at them
>>53111982
>months worth of inventory
whatever the fuck that means
>>53112410
all 2 of them. they expected to sell one a month and die as a company in two months
>>53104594
>NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 970
>>
And I thought the Rift was bad. Who had $800 to blow on this shit? Certainly not me. I could build a new computer for that.
>>53104594
Look at you niggers getting hyped over specs when support is king. Enjoy your shiny dick mask that doesn't have any support beyond steam. Us superior OR users will not only be playing games, but doing tons of other shit because devs are developing shit for it and not the HTC vibrator.
>>53113005
Nice one Vive shill.
>tfw can't reasonably convince my boyfriend not to drop something like £650 on first gen tech
Welp I'll sure be enjoying using the outdated vive when y'all spend much less for a superior headset when the winner actually has support.
>>53113106
Rift shill. I do believe you mean Rift shill. Damnit man at least get shit right.
>>53113168
I think he's saying he's a reverse troll to make Oculus fanboys look like faggots
>>53113168
That's what he wants you to believe.
I mean I don't like Oculus and I don't like HTC/Valve either, but it just seemed like a really obvious reverse bait especially with the picture.
>>53113209
Maybe it's a reverse reverse troll playing you both?
>>53113167
>boyfriend
Gay.
>>53113244
And what if I'm actually just playing along?
>>53113244
Well he's a faggot either way that's all I can say
>>53104594
>3D
>Single camera at the front
I'm guessing the camera is used for tracking or something? Bust still... kek.
>$799 and you need a dedicated room for VR
Top kek, this shit will sell to rich people and turbo nerds only.
>>53113295
>you le need a le room
color TVs can still show black and white movies you faggot
>>53111354
>>53112040
>Penetrating the market
While I agree with you, was there a point to you samefagging?
>>53113295
You mean you aren't a rich turbo nerd? The fuck are you doing here?
![GStHQYl[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/09se9My.png "GStHQYl[1].png")
>>53113322
>i'm underage and/or know nothing about economics so i've never heard the ubiquitous term "market penetration"
>>53113358
reported, global rule 2
>>53105268
The only VR games I care about are mechs and in particular Gundam games. If nips can make a good Gundam VR game I would be pretty damn happy
But there really hasn't been a good Gundam game to date anyways lel
>>53105601
Do you remember the PS3 and bluray? Sony was selling an HMD for well over a grand and it was just a glorified movie theatre gimmick thing
>>53107305
>I will own both most likely
literally no point you autistic faggot. unless your the kind of console buying retard who falls for the exclusivity jew.
But do you need a GTX 970 to watch VR Porn?
>>53113418
No you don't but
MMD Waifu Simulators > Illusion games > SFM demos >>>>> Furry shit >>>> Second Life tier 3DPD games >>>>>>>>> 3DPD VR Porn
>>53113413
Even if you fall the exclusivity bullshit the master race will be Vive + PSVR
>>53111982
Which is what? a few hundred? A few thousand?
New tech is supposed to sell millions.
>>53113488
Honestly I would like sfm vr porn where it tracks my motions.
>>53113513
They gave away 7,000 to Kickstarter backers and said it was no big deal to give an idea
>>53113513
New tech is supposed to sell millions. Says who? You? Stallman? Billy G?
for 800 you can buy a round trip ticket to anywhere in asia
>>53113571
How much is a child prostitute Thailand? Is it included in price?
>>53104594
both solutions are out of my price range, ill take the first chinese knock off that has 720p60 per eye, i had vr on my head when it was 320x200 crt per eye, the experience was fuckin amazing, both for 3d game, and it moved along with my head.
im 100% sure that even if i had a lower res, i wouldn't care, and with my experience dealing with simulator sickness, you get the fuck over it if you power through the sick, so frame rate doesn't bother me... all i care about is i want 3d games and i want motion tracking on the head accesses, none of this "full room vr" especially when you are still connected to fucking wires, that shit ain't happening.
>>53113619
Do you want positional? They already have DK2 clones without it from china.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1920-1080-HD-Virtual-reality-glasses-Oculus-Rift-DK2-DK1-3D-Glasses-Google-Cardboard-3D-Movies/32541261554.html?spm=2114.10010108.100009.2.N6oAVv
If you want positional maybe wait on OSVR.
>>53109237
I have the 8350 and 2 390s
>>53104594
I'll wait to see how retarded shipping price + GST is before committing. The rift totaled at 780USD equivalent in fakin straya cunt. And that is without the motion controllers.
Job sim and fantastic contraption seem mediocre. There were much better titles out there like budget cuts, hover junkers, and I expect you to die shit cunt.
Warthunder + hotas would be interesting in it but that just uses the HMD without motion controller support.
Arma 3 might be alright but using the keyboard will be suffering unless the chaperone system is good enough though that would break immersion defeating the purpose.
Neither of those games would be room scale however.
Man I would fucking KILL for a roomscale VR equivalent of space engineers with planets and motion controller support. A mech warrior style game would be fantastical as well.
Platformers might be good in VR as well despite being a seated experience, but I imagine it would be comfy to sit down and play some games every once in a while with traditional controller imput or motion controller than standing waggling around all day.
Nothing killer yet, perhaps in another year or two once all the big shots start pumping out higher budget titles. Or something novel comes out as devs become more acquainted with VR.
it's pretty awesome
>>53112135
that would be wise but don't expect it to get any cheaper. The older units will definitely become reasonably cheaper though.
I predict the next generation will likely incorporate eye tracking, 3D grip haptics, and a higher resolution probably around 2k all for the same price or slightly higher.
>>53114174
What's the best thing you've played on it? I want at least two things I can spend hours and hours with. I know Tilt Brush is probably one of them.
>>53114174
Thanks for the serial number! Time to register this.
D120379-V in case he deletes it.
>>53114255
played tiltbrush for 8 hours since wednesday, so that's one of them. hover junkers is another great one, though i haven't had nearly enough time with it, i just got it today.
>>53114264
christ, you're an idiot. firstly, not the correct serial number, that's on the bottom of the headset. secondly, you really think it's not already registered if i've been using it this whole time? good lord.
>>53111987
>>53111833
But tacking lighthouse sensors onto something is so trivially easy, even if it takes up another usb port/hub or whatever, it's still a thousandth the bandwidth for already processed data.
>>53109537
this.
looking to spend over a grand on a new screen for myself, waiting for a 21:9 IPS that can do more than 100hz and gsync.
While the pricetag is pretty balk-worthy, especially converting it into australian pesos, it's hardly outside the realms of reality for the taget market: young adults, probably males, with plenty of bank to spend on gaming shit.
>>53114174
i really hope shooting galleries make a resurgance with vr...
if those controllers are any good at tracking, that shit could be really fun
>>53114250
i want lower resolution so shittier hardware can handle it, if they only make vr for tip end gaming, then the games that really take advantage of it will never exist.
>>53115829
>21:9
will they make a monitor for gaming at that screen type? i can only really see that being good for movies, but movies don't require mover than 72hz at most.
>mandatory waggle controls included
>>53111413
Big farts?
