Why don't you use KDE, anon? Except for a few bad design decisions, it's almost perfect. And it also has we-care-about-our-users features rich file picker.
bcuz I use Windows 10 which is even betterer lol
>>53079807
how is it better?
Does Linux finally have a DE that doesn't suck nuts?
>>53079825
It spies on me and makes sure I don't do anything wrong.
>>53079916
just try it. It's great
Looks like a cheap knock-off of Windows 10 with barely any of the functionality or stability.
>>53079788
It's still buggy.
>>53079989
>cheap knock-off of Windows
That's just the KDE way the past 10 years. KDE3 was the last good KDE.
>>53079788
>Not using cinnamon
>>53080013
I see two complete and different designs there.
There is not comparison that one took the ideas from other.
>>53079989
KDE was around since forever. Even the newest kde is older than botnet 10
>>53080028
>>53080028
> actually using themed gnome 3.
>>53080088
It does lack the search functions in gnome. I also see a view different control methods relating to icons and sound devices detection.
Well it is easy to pull programs out, KDE is heavy on my top end device. Cinnmon was the only DE is could use and customize. Gnrome3 was trash, and mate is what shitty laptops use.
Buggiest piece of shit DE ever.
I installed kubuntu-desktop 2 days ago, piece of shit uses 100% CPU all the time. I googled and found its actully a known bug in the system. but doesn't have a fix. wtf
>>53080112
My choices:
KDE/i3wm if the computer can handle it
MATE/i3wm on slower computers
i3wm for work
>>53080127
>kubuntu
>found your problem
>>53080127
It is useful if you enjoy an over kill of fancy eye candy.
I only found it to be unfriendly to a power user. I lived in terminal because the delay in the start menu - both normal and classic - were turded by bugs and lag.
>>53080159
>I only found it to be unfriendly to a power user
That's like the definition of /g/. Complication be damned, if it's not fast to do things it goes in the trash
>>53080138
I use my systems for software dev. KDE was extra steps and bugs from my experience. KDE makes it even remotely friendly to someone who web browses for its main function requirement.
KDE5 is horrible, it breaks half of the time.
>resize a bar, crash
>open the network manager, crash
>switch activities too quickly, crash
>set the desktop to icon view, crash
Also, inconsistent customization of various aspects.
>>53080127
Try to switch to Kubuntu LTS, it still uses KDE4 which isn't an unstable mess.
>>53080176
It was not useful for me. I lived in terminal but the GUI was not useful for me to change for particular environments.
The start menu is fucking shit.
I see you use KDE, I'm more of a gnome guy
>>53079788
Why don't you use harkach/sosach?
I prefer Unity
>>53080408
Unity was pretty good. I don't like docks but it's replacable at least. Menu searching was really nice. I don't really like having a single bar for the menus though, I always have to check which window is in focus before going to the menu instead of just clicking the menu on the appropriate window.
>>53079788
bloated and ugly
Kubuntu ruined KDE's reputation.
>>53081452
openSUSE tumbleweed is a flawless KDE experience
GNOME isn't even that bad.
>>53079916
no, it's just a guy who discovered kde... also, what is that stupid nosense naming with all apps starting with k?
Can you get the Qt filepicker on Palemoon though? How?
>>53081515
>>53080013
KDE 4's design was actually out before Windows changed its style
Regarding OP's claim that I don't use KDE - well, I do in fact use KDE.
>>53081515
>flawless
Shit has more bugs than Chakra
Manjaro was the only distro that got KDE right for me.
Too bad it's based on Arch. Notebooks with Optimus works much better with the *buntu drivers.
>>53079788
too much bad shortcuts for me.
_ shortcuts on file icons.... really i don't want to take care where do click on a icon for a file to open the way I want
_ open a new window by default everytime I enter a new folder... jeez
_ no personality... it feels blank/empty... Like Xfce but more heavy on the RAM
_ And a lot more tiny details I'm glad I forgot.
>>53079788
>bad design
you got that right
I will say KDE is probably the best-looking out-of-the-box DE that Linux has, that said it's just unusable. At least to me.
The menus and submenus are are jumbled together, it makes finding shit a pain in the ass. I literally felt more comfortable in the terminal than using the DE itself. Which is a shame because it looks nice and Dolphin is a pretty good file manager.
Personally, I think Unity and Gnome 3 are more polished and easy to use than KDE. KDE is like Windows if Windows wasn't organized. Gnome 3 is more like Windows 8 and Unity is somewhere in between Windows 8 and OS X.
>>53081576
running on gnome right now. But I heavily tweaked it. I hate that simili "android homescreen" gnome is going for .... what the hell I'm on a pc. I want folder and subfolder, sorted right. Not a homescreen where everything is throw at me like this. Homescreen is a mess, I don't want to ever see it again.
Moreover, last year gnome had some SEVERE memory leaks, I'm talking about gnome taking 2gb of ram in 4 hours of uptime. Had to restart it multiples times per day. Hopefuly it seems like they got their shit together lately concerning ram.
>>53079788
>perfect
>no dynamic tiling
choose one
>>53082216
A shitton of settings menus can be easily found by simply using the alt+F2 search tool.
>>53082302
https://github.com/faho/kwin-tiling
>>53082302
manual tiling > dynamic tiling
It's bloated and too pretty. It isn't gray enough.
>>53082332
>port of horrendous kwin 4 script
>only 3 layouts, can't easily script own layouts
Pretty terrible.
>>53082216
>The menus and submenus are are jumbled together, it makes finding shit a pain in the ass.
Understatement of the year. Add memory leaks and themes breaking left and right, and you have the definition of the word clusterfuck. It looks good though. ;^)
>>53079788
that looks like some blind dude tried to rip off osx
>>53082344
>not letting your PC redundant work for you
>>53079825
Gaymens
All distros with it aren't updated enough and my slowest computer is too slow for it.
One of the best DEs though.
>>53079788
Don't want to be systemdicked and I also don't happen to enjoy the entire desktop crashing every 5 seconds.
>>53079788
>Пички
back to slavland, m8
>>53080138
Found my soulmate
>>53079916
that always existed
>>53080138
console like IDE. Because mouses are expensive.
>>53079916
KDE 3.5.10 is no longer supported, trinity is unusable, and MATE is life-support for gnome 2, so no.
>>53081581
It's an easy way to communicate to the user that the program 1- requires KDE stuff to run (so don't try to install them if you're not on KDE already!) and 2- are provided by KDE (this matters in particular because KDE has tons of cross-program integration features).
>>53082777
the sad truth
>>53081581
it's just their thing
the k doesn't even stand for anything, it's just "K Desktop Environment"
they really like k
>>53082843
Actually, it's KDE Software Distribution now. KDE no longer means K desktop environment.
>>53079916
>>53082777
Enlightenment
>>53082863
huh, so now the whole "KDE" doesn't stand for anything?
>>53082843
It used to be "Kool Desktop Environment"
>>53082877
>Memelightmeme
Toppest kek. It's not even remotely usable, and it's buggier than a bug.
>>53082891
haven't heard that one, when was that?
i got into linux when kde was at 3.2-ish
>>53082905
It's definitely much more usable than Gnome3 or Plasma 5.
>>53082918
First version iirc, it was a play on "CDE"
>>53082616
nice meme, faggot
>>53082919
Much less, more like. Even just the terminal emulator should be enough to turn off anyone
>0 real customization
>muh blackboard-textured background
>flashy neon shiny cursor that gives you a headache after just 10 seconds of opening the TE
>muh nimations
>0 modern actually useful TE features
It really exemplifies the entire memelightmeme experience. Everything is gaudy, headache- and nausea-inducing by design, with no interest in providing any customization options, let alone useful features. Gnome at least has the looks (shit as they are, at least the animations are good and you can look at this shit without getting vertigo), and KDE has the features.
>>53082963
Good thing you can easily edit all of those, huh? Even KDEs look like garbage out of the box, you know. It's their staple, kind of.
Whats going on with Plasma 5? More stable now?
>>53079788
i do use it and i love it!
www.jagger.me/img/kkkkkk.webm
>>53082989
Slightly. Still explodes at least daily, but at least the most trivial issues are kinda fixed
Xfce master race reporting in. Fuck that buggy, ugly piece of shit that KDE is and always has been.
>>53082980
>can't
FTFY
>>53083250
>installing a new terminal is hard
Woooooooooow
why is it that people always hide the terminal in dolphin?
Unless you never use the cli on files, having it there all the time is a lot more convenient
>>53083288
>installing a different DE/WM than enlightenment is an option
>therefore, enlightenment is great and usable
Memelightmemefags logic
>>53083719
99% of the time you won't use the cli, the extra screenspace is a fuckload more useful, and showing it is just an F4 away.
>>53082616
>muh sysvinit
>muh minimalism
>>53081432
>bloated
>uses Xorg
>>53083788
I just set it to be 10 lines (170 px on my system) and then I still have a lot of space to view files.
>>53082877
I can't even change the theme of that shit.
>>53079788
Seems like every piece in it crashes constantly. I can't use it for more than 15 minutes without a vital piece crashing, and for a lot of the crashing parts you can't even submit a bug report because the component that crashed doesn't have a name or something. I don't remember the exact term KDE used, it's been a few weeks.
>>53079916
yes, openbox + tint2 + dmenu
>>53082588
>Not letting your PC make blind guesses about how you want things set up at the moment
>>53084009
>2016
>still using openbox
>>53083978
Distro?
>>53082877
Pls you can't rice that at all. It's less riceable than Mac OS.
Mate is the best, fuck y'all
>>53084047
Kubuntu, Arch + KDE, Ubuntu GNOME with KDE installed as an afterthought, Manjaro's KDE spin. I did once successfully run KDE with no crashes or anything on this laptop for a while so it might just be that KDE hates my desktop.
>>53079788
>why dont you use kde anon
Because im a gnome man :^)
>>53084380
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>53086133
why don't you run a Ubuntu VM with the screensaver on? :^)
