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He's going to block Apple's major ports if they don't give the FBI what they want.
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>>53069434
>iPhone & Samsung
>iPhone
>&
>Samsung
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>>53069434
Normies always use "Samsung" as a synonym for "Android". Hell, they even refer to USB-to-micro-USB cables "samsung cables"
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>>53069434
>TIL: Apple = iOS
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>>53069434
>Trump supporting gooks over muricans

theres a shocker
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>>53069686
>muricans

all the devices are made in china anyways.
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>>53069707
still Apple is based in OOSA
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>>53069556
Only because Applefags refused to call their iPhones "phones".
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>>53069434
He just lost my vote
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>>53069434
Someone really needs to explain to him what the actual situation is, he's making a fool of himself.
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>>53069731
isn't google based America?
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>>53069434
>I use both iPhone ampersand Samsung
What did he mean by that?
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Hasn't Apple given the requested information on the shooters though? They said very clearly that they respond to valid subpoenas and comply with law enforcement. They just don't want to install a backdoor into EVERYONE's phone.

This guy sounds dumber and dumber the more I hear about him. Shit blows my mind he even has supporters, but I guess they're as dumb as he is.
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>>53069468
Advertising.
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>>53069434
>Americans will vote for this dumb
Why your country is so fucked up ?
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>>53069760
he uses 2 phone to shitpost from?
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>>53069769
B-But the FBI is only going to use this on Farook's phone!

This is an individual case, the FBI isn't seeking to establish a precedent!

Think of the children!
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>>53069468
What is Twitter word count
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>>53069769
#FEELTHEBERN
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>>53069773
The problem with American politics is that American voters don't care about domestic, economic, foreign policy etc. Its all just brain dead social issues like gay marriage, weed and abortion. In a few election cycles the next president will probably be decided by something like which Rocky movie was their favorite.
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>>53069769
you can have supporters and have those supporters not agree with every little thing you've said

that being said, if anyone supports any american candidate outside of McAfee , they're retarded as fuck and should be euthanized ASAP
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>>53069769
>>53069811
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/02/encryption-isnt-at-stake-the-fbi-knows-apple-already-has-the-desired-key/ read mother fucker read
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>>53069826
WTF is this? Insight from a weeb? I'm astounded!
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>>53069773
Do you not understand the difference between a primary and an actual election?

He's popular among the super conservative retards that populate the far right, i.e. the people who actually vote in primaries. Just like Sanders is popular among the super liberal retards that populate the far left, i.e. the fucking people that vote in fucking primaries.

The only reason Sanders isn't crushing Hilary is because she's got Clinton as a last name and retarded liberals love Bill for some dumbass reason.
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>>53069826
We do care about real shit, but the problem is people get so assblasted over wedge social issues that they prioritize wrongly. The media and the parties have played this their way for years now. Trump is one of the only ones to actually care deeply about the real issues while glancing over shit like abortion and not even mentioning weed or fag marriage. All the libshits and cuckservatives pander on those stupid wedge issues constantly that people forget about what really matters.
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>>53069850
The FBI's request is very specifically engineered not to cross that line. They do indeed only want to be able to bruteforce the 5c's PIN. If you're a short-sighted fool, that seems okay.

The model is a 5c, so the crypto key on higher model iPhones is not an issue.

They don't really care about or need the info on Farook's phone, they want to be able to force companies to give them modified versions of their software.

Eventually, they will target crypto. Just listen to James Comey talk about how evil strong crypto is that how it will prevent the FBI from ever catching another pedophile or terrorist ever again.
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>>53069769
>>53069773
>>53069826
As opposed to who

The crooked career politician with more skeletons in her closet than Mr Bones?
The literal party line robot?
The religious kook whom everyone he knows personally agrees is a slimeball?
The man who went on a honeymoon to the Soviet Union and never came back?
The other religious kook who thinks Ayy's built the Pyramids?
The autistic dynastarian?
The wishywashy bland middleman without passion?

Face it, he's top of the shitheap. We at least have objective proof the man can manage things and delegate, ie vital tasks for an executive.

>>53069819
Yeah yeah, go and vote for the man who wants to make us like the soon to be failed state, Sweden.
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>>53069888
>>He's popular among the super conservative retards that populate the far right,
kek, no he isn't. Trump isn't even much of a conservative and the far-right fags know it.
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>>53069769
The phones all already have backdoors, that's how they fix them for the retarded masses that make up the majority of Apple users when they fuck up their phones.

What, you thought your phones were actually secure? Nope, Apple can take it over whenever the fuck they want. They just don't want to admit it because they would get a huge PR hit from it.

Fact is 90% of the electronics you buy nowadays all have manufacturer backdoors installed.
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>>53069895
>Race bait is a "real issue"

You're retarded, Trump has said nothing about economic policy and his only statement about foreign policy has been basically "bomb them all". His whole campaign is based on meaningless wedge issues.
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>>53069888
>love Bill for some dumbass reason

Millennial detected.
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>>53069947
Not allowing mexicans to undercut american workers is an economic policy.
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>>53069936
He's a straight nationalist. That's why the "far right" likes him, even if he's middling on social policies and certain economic ones.

>>53069947
>Trump has said nothing about economic policy
The man put out his entire fucking taxplan and statements on his position for tariffs and trade deals. If thats not economic policy then I'm a fucking banana.
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>>53069970
>implying American workers with a liberal arts degree want to pick lettuce
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>>53069947
Muslims and illegals aren't a race. Nice try though Berniebot.

His economic policy is centered around protectionism, and he's constantly talking about how all these proxy wars have been bad and how Russia need not be an enemy. Probably the least likely to actually get us into a war.
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>>53069970
It's basically a retard and populist "economic policy"
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>>53069434

does this mean that Google give info to authorities without any hassle? is my Android built in full disk encryption backdoored????
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>>53069997
>Free Trade and Globalism is the key to economic prosperity
>No borders, no countries, we're all one!
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>>53069921
>failed state
>Sweden
Still better than your shithole country, Ameritard. At least there is no mass shooting every other day.
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>>53069988
>Hurr durr not a race

It's still race bait idiot, do you think his supporters stop to ask a person if they're muslim or not before calling them rapists/terrorists/refugees?
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>>53070032
>implying I said this
Your're retarded.
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>>53070040
Oh no, it's just explosions every other day.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/17/explosion-damages-turkish-cultural-association-building-in-stockholm
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/02/blas/
http://www.thelocal.se/20150824/you-get-street-smart-when-you-live-in-malm
https://www.rt.com/news/310757-sweden-malmo-blasts-crime/
https://www.rt.com/news/330230-sweden-stockholm-blast-mall/
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>>53070084
>breitbart

Post discarded
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>>53070052
>It's still race bait idiot,
Except it isn't. You see, this is why everyone likes Trump, because their sick of being called racists for trying to bring up legitimate issues when it comes to illegal immigration and who's committing terrorists attacks as part of their dogma.

People like you literally feed the fire and bump up his support.
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>>53070061
Ok, so why do you think removing Illegal Immigrants is a bad thing.

Explain it in your own words.
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>>53070097
>breitbart and RT

Fixed that for you. Literally the worst news sources.
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>>53070108
>their
*they're
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>>53069731
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>>53069759
You dumb fucks, they are both Irish Companies.

They don't pay US tax rates, they pay Irish ones. You faggots have been cucked.
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>>53070097
>>53070114
http://www.expressen.se/gt/uppgifter-explosion-vid-skola-i-karlstad/
There, no more Breitbart, have fun reading Swedish.
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>>53069434
>TIL
Back to >>>/reddit/ you go.
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>>53069979
>He's a straight nationalist.
I'll actually concede to that. I think that's what will give him broad appeal as well though, it's not necessarily something only attractive to the far-right. Here in America being a flag waving murrica type isn't frowned upon everywhere. People in general are just really sick of all the negativity, and all the guilt being slung around nowadays. Nationalism appeals to everyone who's not far-left, including people like me who are somewhat moderate and disenfranchised by our current major parties. Being proud of being an American and thinking it makes us greater than everyone else is literally the kind of things that brings people together in this country. It's the only kind of multicultural glue that actually sticks and washes away the tension. And we've got a lot of fucking tension right now.
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>>53069826
RockyIII is clearly superior
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>>53070261
>yfw trump slides further left then Romney if he gets the nom
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>>53070114
>durr, these news sources don't push a west-based, leftest propagandistic world view so dey bad, durrrrrr

how's dat confirmation bias working out?
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>literal meme candidate
Why won't people just stop talking about this autist?
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Any of you read /pol/ from time to time?

I swear to god, that place is like an inverted version of Tumblr.

The hardon for Trump can only be matched for the hardon SJWs get when advocating Hillary just because she would be the first female president of yankistan

Most of the time I can't tell if they're actually serious
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>>53070242
Whoa there buddy
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>>53070242
Renegotiating our trade agreements is something he wants to do too. He hates NAFTA and the TPP. Getting rid of illegals isn't just to protect the shit jobs, it's to remove our economic burden of all the fucking handouts we give and to enforce the law as it should be.
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>>53070242
>returning jobs to the citizens of a nation isn't an economic policy
Thats his entire deal, eliminate free trade to remove the race to the bottom that eliminated the manufacturing sector that historically paid well over minimum wage while freeing up existing jobs by removing illegals who don't even pay taxes, and will work for lower wages.

This is in contrast to the Democrat position to raise wages for all service jobs while keeping free trade, thus increasing incentives for employing illegals and more outsourcing; or the other Republicans positions of doing fucking nothing.

>>53070323
>>53070325
see >>53069921

>>53070328
thx
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All the autists on this board make me laugh - the biggest issue to you people is internet rights and software "freedom"

You all have no perspective on life and real issues - you're all an embarrassment to politics. Please, if you're one of these people, stop talking about politics and keep jacking it to anime girls.
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See this right here? This is repeated by parrots uncritically swallowing the garbage spewed by those that want more immigration.
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>>53070393
>Republicans positions of doing fucking nothing.
No, they're doing something alright. Pushing policies to fuck over small business and help incumbent corps maintain their positions as they expand into foreign soil and take the jobs overseas with them as they reduce their overhead. Republican or Democrat, they're all filthy globalists who will fuck over the people of this country for their own gain.
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>>53070393
I criticize his shit candidate and he only compares him to other shit candidates. This is why everyone thinks Americans are fucking retards.
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>>53070434
Thanks to our two party system and accompanying media machine, a third party can't successfully rise up.

We're pretty close to seeing a fracturing within both the Dems and Repub parties though, due to frustration with the party leaders.
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>>53070422
>left says they do jobs no one wants to do
they really want them to vote for them
>right says they are taking jobs from Burgers
they really don't want them to vote left

It's just politics spun 500 ways til sunday. Neither party cares on any level except for votes.
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>>53070413
Spot on. Lol these autists think they have a right to the privacy of their pixels.

None of it is fucking real guys. Go outside and stop dedicating your life to "internet issues"

Way down the line we're going to learn the internet was a massive coordinated undertaking to turn people into easily manipulated unmotivated sheep who don't go outside.
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>>53069947
he has good policies dickhead
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>>53070434

People from other countries say Americans are retards because they're jealous of our success
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>Trump
Hey, look! It's a sleaze,with a history of being a sleaze, being sleazy. He'll fit right in in Washington.
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>politicians still use the word "terrorist"
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>>53070143
Wait, how does that work? I want to cuck my government too.
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>>53070413
>>53070587
Agreed, nobody cares about your degenerate anime stop being a traitor and let the feds have access to your phone.
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>>53070692
What a rich, substantial argument.

Your computer chair smells bad.
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>>53070646
>"terrorist"
I've heard it so many times it's become meaningless. There's probably been more innocent Americans bookmarked as terrorists than there are militant muslims in the world. Shit's gotta stop. Americans are imploding on themselves.
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>>53070709
Traitor. I would gladly let the feds explore my phone at any time, i have no degenerate anime, i have nothing to hide.
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>>53070744
>thinks the argument is about hiding things
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>>53070727
Brilliant pacman poster.
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>>53070709
You are either doing one of these two or both

1. Supporting degenerates who are hiding illegal material behind encryption

2. Supporting terrorists who are keeping encrypted plans

Why can't we arrest you for treason or aiding and abetting? Because you're doing both
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>>53070692
So all of the abuses of the IC in the 1970s were for our safety?

How about the CIA's covert operations against the US Congress to cover up its torture program? Is that for public safety too?

If these programs are so righteous and just, why can't they stand on their own merits? Why does the government need to skulk around and lie so much about them?
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>>53070752
Yes, if you have something to hide if you are supporting apple.
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>>53070752
Conservative is a reference to the number of brain cells they use.
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>>53070674
Register your online business in Vanuatu 2bh.
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>>53070767
Encryption is for degenerates, i can't wait till trump bans it.
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>>53070640
No, we say Americans are retards because they're fucking retards. This "they're jealous of our success" and "they're jealous of our freedoms" is bullshit Americans tell themselves to explain to themselves why everyone else hates them and thinks they're morons without having to confront the uncomfortable real reasons.
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>>53070814
Poor angry europoor.
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>>53070743

Politicians calling someone terrorist is the same thing as calling someone communist or pedophile or whatever life-destroying accusation you can randomly hurl at someone. Just a label you can use to justify any measure and suppress any opposition to them. Doesn't even require proof; innocent bystanders have zero standards for proof and it is the reason a negative reputation sticks.

Such a simple political tool. Once people figure it out, they'll invent something new.
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>>53070808
How can you ban an algorithm dipshit?

It's fucking math.
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>>53070833
Guess again, yank.
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>>53070850
people actually think they can ban it too.
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>>53070850
How can you be dumb enough to respond to obvious trolling?
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Nixon was impeached for wiretapping ONE phone. Think about that. Especially you so called patriots who support some very anti-american views like removing civil rights. Rights that were given to us by some very intelligent and brave men. You piss on the graves of literally every soldier who died fighting to protect those rights. You're not patriots, you're the commies and nazis and terrorists.YOU'RE the shit bags who need to be stopped. You don't like freedom? Get the fuck out. How do you like hearing those words, shitlords? GET THE FUCK OUT!
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>>53070850
Child porn is just magnetic impulses
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>>53070961
Encryption is for degenerates, it makes it easy to hide your illegal porn from authorities
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I am glad to have purchased a Samsung GALAXY Note 4
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>>53070850
They could just make it illegal to have data which can't be easily decoded and arrest people for having it. Then that would lead to cipher methods that read like natural language -- which would be pretty sweet.
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>>53070970
Have your jimjams been russelerino'd?

I bet you've never even fought in a war. Don't act like you have a right to speak for those who did.
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>>53071031
You should comb you hair like Da Donald too. That would show 'em.
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The fbi obviously only wants its backdoor key.
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>>53070947
>how would you like this wrapped

Lovely.

>>53070984
Technically, a child porn image or video is actually just a huge number. All those bits on the hard drive add up to one.

>>53071045
>unenforceable laws
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>>53070970
Fuck off, kid. Finish high school and grow out of your lobertarian phase
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>>53070970

Anon - these people do not care. Challenging them with facts and reason will only give them more of a hardon to double down against sense. They have been brainwashed and brought up through an utterly moronic school-system, fed with bullshit propaganda via the media and kowtowed due to social pressure from other sheep. The only people that care for the country going down the shitter are those with some critical thinking capability and some integrity.
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>>53071082
Grandfather fought in WWII Dad saw the tail end of Nam. Go fuck yourself. My Grandfather could barely walk the remainder of his life due to injuries he sustained. You spineless bastards want to undo what these people fought for? Move to Russia or Canada you Commie scum.
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>>53070970

Nixon was impeached for LYING about doing something wrong and continually acting as if he never did plus professing that because he was President he was above such laws and could do anything he damned well please.

That infamous interview he did with the British reporter basically ensured he was fucking toast because he just couldn't shut the fuck up about it too.

Nixon was a piece of shit from day one and a wiretap wasn't what brought him down.
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>>53071230
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal
see >>53071169 pic related
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>>53071230

Thanks for clearing up that one point anon. No, really, ty.
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>>53069850
>The FBI is asking for Apple to create a custom iPhone firmware that removes the escalating delays and omits the device wipe. As a bonus, the FBI is also asking for a way to enter PINs other than typing them in one after the other on the touchscreen. Thus, the FBI wants Apple to make a special version of iOS that is amenable to brute-force attacks on its PIN.

Just in case anyone had any doubts that these government institutions are in any way different from common crackers. In a sense, they're inferior to them since they lack the hacker's ingenuity and pride and have to go beg Apple for help pulling their little script kid bruteforce schemes.
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>>53069434
I bet he doesn't his own tweets.
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>>53071392

Apple should issue a statement giving a final refusal and then announce they're setting up HQ in Iceland or something.
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>>53071217
That's nice, kid. Doesn't sound like you fought in any yourself though.
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>>53071392
They had some ding-a-ling on the evening news rambling about how the pvt sector is to advanced for them, we need laws to restrict them, gov should be more advanced.

They just recently lifted the drug testing stuff because they could find anyone with clean urine.
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>>53071491
couldn't*
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>>53071452
wonder why any company bases itself on the US to begin with.
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>>53071473

>durr, u didn't do such thing so u can't speak of such thing

This is like some retard that told me because I was athiest, I can't use the word 'God' in sentences. lmao
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>>53071491
>gov should be more advanced

Absolutely not! The more stupid and incompetent the government is, the better.
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>>53071510

Yup, just pull a Lavabit but actually continue under another country. I'm sure they'll be loads of welcoming lands available.
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http://thenextweb.com/apple/2016/02/20/apple-deems-backdoor-unnecessary-after-fbi-screwup/
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>>53071571

Honestly, my deepest hope is for technology to evolve so aggressively, that a government can no longer enforce any of its laws. I literally want to see them burn.
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>>53071571
>>53071640

Just like Silent Circle that produce the Blackphone - they shut shop and moved to Switzerland because of this. The writing has been on the wall since Snowden.
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>>53071621
>apple admits its own OS's security vulnerabilities to the feds so they can exploit them
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>>53069434
Well Apple only makes one phone and one OS so he's right.
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>>53071666
The writing about espionage of the Five Eyes has been on the wall since a long time ago, but its like everyone is either ignoring it or is 100% complicit.
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>>53071392
>beg Apple for help
Fire up Google and search for this pdf.
Identifying Back Doors, Attack
Points, and Surveillance
Mechanisms in iOS Devices
They don't need any help. It's all a scam. The linked document plainly states the government has their ways.
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>>53071790

I'm aware that the government as a whole has its ways. I'm just extrapolating on a history of the FBI, specifically, to crack certain consumer devices using certain consumer encryption tools.
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>>53071790

Yes, they have other ways in. That's why this whole case is to set precedent for future cases against not just Apple, but ANY tech company that offers 'unbreakable encryption'. Just think, this could lead in the future to some court instructing Apple (or any other corp.) to remotely deploy a valid system update that does who knows what. Even system updates would be untrusted from the developer.
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>>53071838
Just one excerpt:
Biggest forensic trove of intelligence on the device
Found in /usr/libexec/mobile_file_relay on device
Provides physical artifacts vs. logical (databases; deleted
records can be recovered)
Transmits large swaths of raw file data in a compressed
cpio archive, based on the data source requested.
Completely bypasses Appleā€™s backup encryption for
end-user security.
Once thought benign, has evolved considerably, even in
iOS 7, to expose much personal data.
Very intentionally placed and intended to dump data
from the device by request
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>>53071927
>Even system updates would be untrusted from the developer.

so.... microsoft then
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>>53071975

Surely that only works if the phone has been powered on and unlocked at least once without having been powered down?

If the phone is in off state, powering it on and just sitting at the lock screen (without entering pin to decrypt) would not yield any private data.
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>>53071927
Well, all security comes down to trust. If you're trusting Apple's encryption implementation, then you can't really blame them for complying with government requests.

Besides anyone with sufficient resources can attack any system, from pouring hydrofluoric acid on hardware tokens and electron microscoping the key to performing side channel attacks on running systems to rubberhosing some poor fool
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>>53072017
Read the document. Keeping in mind that this was written prior to this whole fiasco. I don't want to jump to conclusions or purposely mislead people but I get the feeling both Apple and the FBI are big fat liars.
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>>53072028

CIA doing just that:

https://theintercept.com/2015/03/10/ispy-cia-campaign-steal-apples-secrets/
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He's an old fag. What makes you think he knows the difference?
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>TIL
>>>/reddit/
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>>53072100

From page 10:

>Once the device is *first unlocked* after reboot, most of the data-protection encrypted data can be accessed until the device is shut down.

Yup, as I remember. I have read this and it is also quite old now by tech standards. As the advice goes for activists: if you must take your phone anywhere hot, make sure it is POWERED DOWN first.
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>>53072233

*disclaimer: i am not an activist but an /x/file conspiracy-fag
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>>53069475
Is this a @dril tweet
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>>53069752
Retarded for giving it in the first place
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>>53072233

Wow, it's almost as if having an encrypted drive mounted is vulnerable until it is powered down.
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>>53070108
These aren't legitimate issues, but you and the rest of the baby boomers are too blinded by bigotry to see it
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>>53072509

These are legitimate issues, but you and the rest of the regressive left are too blinded by ideology and virtual signalling to see it.
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