Now that the IPhone is objectively the better choice, when are you gonna make the switch?
http://www.apple.com/customer-letter/
>>53053018
If Tim Cook was a victim in the bombings Apple would have full heartedly worked with the government.
>>53053018
Now that iCucks are officially cucks, when do they publicly come out?
Iphones are proprietary. I'll consider using them when they become freed.
>>53053018
>IPhone
>the better choice
Pick one.
>>53053018
>already sucking PRISM dick
No.
I'll stick with having no phone.
HOLY SHIT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY THIS DUMB
PEOPLE A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW WILL LOOK BACK IN AMAZEMENT AT HOW RETARDED PEOPLE WERE
>>53053018
This issue is a lot more important than what phone is better. Open your eyes OP.
>>53053435
There will be no people a hundred years from now. The machines will have undoubtedly taken over by then.
>>53053460
OP is a paid shill. Can there really be an applefag delusional enough to think they're safe with proprietary software?
>>53053287
compared to the, what, thousands of times Google has done it to their phones?
>>53053526
You can use android without Google
>>53053481
I truly hope so
>>53053287
They have
They admitted they have in the letter
And they said they'll continue to
But they won't do it for everyone, even innocent people
Why are you people ignoring this
>>53053018
>closed source
>Apple
>not poweruser friendly
It's still shit. Android-Jewgle is superior.
Why can't anyone recognize this as a PR stunt. This isn't new
>>53053487
Not everyone has drank the open sores koolaid, kid.
>>53053570
In the same way that you can survive by drinking your own piss. It's possible, but disgusting and a pain in the ass.
>>53053018
>that link
>ctrl + F NSA
>0 found
>NSA picture
what? the fuck????
NSA has nothing to do with this, they already have all apple data because PRISM.
FBI just wanted their own finger in the pie, but they can get whatever they want from NSA if they really wanted.
>>53053835
It's not a pain in the ass. Firefox is a little bit faster even.
>>53053884
This.
Moving to apple to escape the NSA over this is like moving to a European server.
>>53054353
Europe is still beter.
>>53053018
>security through obscurity
>>53054394
Only on paper.
>>53053287
This was before encryption.
> bricks phones when taken to repair shops beyond apple
> forces ITunes on you
> forces you to 'sync' your phone instead of allowing the simple act of dragging and dropping files
> DRM up the ass
> expensive if not impossible to fix
> overhyped, no longer the forefront of innovation in the smartphone market
No thanks.
>apple makes encrypted iPhone
>NSA orders apple to make backdoor or face $250,000 * 2^(day after order) fine every day
>apple makes backdoor for NSA
The only question is, why the fuck is the FBI making this request in the public? It's just PR to drum up support against encryption to further future anti encryption legislation. Tim Cook is trying to counter it though, good for him. But all your data is still in NSA hands.
>>53053103
>confirmed tim cook going to have an accident due to brake failure and have committed suicide by driving him self off a bridge while being shot 6 times in the back of the head
>>53053287
You keep posting this fucking image as if it was all super secret that Apple has helped the cops in the past. It has never been a secret you fucking android nigger.
>>53054353
>not having your data stored on the moon
It's as if you guys wanna be spied on
>>53053835
>Not everyone has drank the open sores koolaid, kid.
>In the same way that you can survive by drinking your own piss. It's possible, but disgusting and a pain in the ass.
I use rooted android AOSP in my moto E 2014, no Google play services and 99% open source apps from fdroid, only propietary app installed is whatsapp.
I use VLC, Lightning browser, GLImageViewer, and termux with youtube-dl and a couple of CLI apps.
Installed xposed and xprivacy and I'm very happy with this setup
>>53054671
TCP doesn't work all that great to the moon. RTT gets all fucked.
>>53054835
>using tcp
>not sending hdds to your moon buddies
>>53054597
>It's just PR to drum up support against encryption to further future anti encryption legislation
Yes.
Fox News just had a guy on saying that Apple is "un-American" and are siding with child rapists over the American government.
>>53054895
It always comes down to the child rapists when the elites are going to potentially lose some power doesn't it?
>>53054929
Yes. "think of the children" is the classical campaign for just about everything, including power grabs by fascist governments.
>>53053018
I don't really understand this to be honest. Won't future terrorist just move on to some other encryption method that the government can't order Apple to crack?
>>53054895
>Child rapists
>American government
tough choice to be honest
>>53054877
not using rfc 1149
>>53055013
The problem really isn't even with the encryption at all. The problem is that people are too fucking lazy to deal with anything other than 4-digit, 0-9 numbers to protect their device. This means that Apple (in theory.. and reality) could install some new firmware on this device to try all 10,000 combinations to generate the 128-bit or 256-bit key or whatever it is... effectively reducing it to a <14-bit key. The only reason this is even being discussed is because of delay-between-try and too-many-attempts. My opinion is that the people need to start getting serious about encrypting their shit with crypto that is known to be good. Then, why ask someone to decrypt? Can't be done.
>>53055078
>rfc 1149
oh you!
>>53054597
Do you even know what PRISM is?
>>53055085
>My opinion is that the people need to start getting serious about encrypting their shit with crypto that is known to be good. Then, why ask someone to decrypt? Can't be done.
That's another thing I don't get. Why aren't the terrorists already doing this now? According to the media they're currently genius "James Bond" level villains. Why are they using garbage encryption that could be decrypted at all? Even the retards on 4chan know better.
>>53055139
Yes. Do you?
>>53055168
>"James Bond" level villians
Yes, I've heard this at work lately.
>Why don't they use god-tier encryption?
Some of them might, but mostly they are just people who have been wronged on many levels lashing out in extreme (and probably wrong) ways.
>>53053103
If Tim Cook was gay, he would have helped the feds for sure. Those guys are all child rapists. /s
>>53055613
>>53055613
>>>53053103
>If Tim Cook was gay, he would have helped the feds for sure. Those guys are all child rapists. /s
B-But...
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/02/encryption-isnt-at-stake-the-fbi-knows-apple-already-has-the-desired-key/
I don't know how I feel about this. On one hand, I feel that encryption is important and that you shouldn't be forced to make a backdoor just because the gubermint tells you to.
On the other hand, I feel that Apple is being hypocritical, and they chose the wrong case to do it on.
The article I posted just causes more confusion for me.
>>53055613
>If
>>53055085
Their aren't any good encryption services or software for Linux. When installing Fedora or Mint for example, it asks if you want your home folder encrypted or the entire drive. FBI and the NSA has backdoors in it.
>>53055854
Not sure what you mean by "their", but all the crypto you could ever want exists within the Linux kernel, so doesn't matter which distribution you choose as long as it is released within the last 12 years or so. You can even chain cyphers if you want. It might be required that you read a couple of pages though. This is why I was saying, we (people as a whole) need to get more serious about crypto. We need to make it easy for people, like yourself, who are not technical. You shouldn't be required to know about computers to be able to use good crypto to protect your privacy. Instead we get politicians and 3-letter officials telling us that we must abandon our privacy out of fear.
>>53055017
>implying these aren't the same thing
>>53055691
>B-But...
Your troll-detector is not working.
Mine is. Troll.
>>53055713
The question isn't whether Apple can do what the feds want; that's a given.
It's whether they should.
If they do then they are at the beck and call of every tin-pot regieme in the world who wants a phone cracked.
Americans forget that their writ stops at the border. Blackberry found that out in Pakistan and Egypt.
>>53056788
They should. It is a court order.
They can appeal it, it is in their right.
We can protest it.
But if they cannot win then they should do it because it is the law.
It is important, though, that they resist it because every case will have to be on its own merits and the harder it is to get the first one done the less likely they will be "at the beck and call of every tin-pot regieme in the world who wants a phone cracked."
I have to use both I still hate my iPhone android still has my hart
>>53054895
>fox news will be the unlikely hero who finally kills apple's public image, which is the only product they actually sell
These are strange times.
>>53053287
This. Apple and many others in the industry have done it prior. They are simply defending terrorists now.
>>53053835
>Not everyone has drank the open sores koolaid, kid.
>what is cyanogenmod
what are you even doing here? oh right you're shilling for apple.
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