Best KDE distro? It's been a while since I've last used it (KDE 3), is it still a bloated mess?
>>53019726
Chakra
KDE Neon
>>53019726
openSUSE
Gentoo
>>53019726
> is it still a bloated mess?
Yep
>>53019726
>not installing a minimal distro and installing kde afterwards
Does it really matter? Can you not just install arch + KDE?
>>53019726
>is it still a bloated mess?
Yes
>>53019726
Bloated, but not a mess. Really great DE.
Kubuntu 14.04 is one of the last if you want KDE v.4
>>53024041
I think Debian Jessie will last longer though.
>I care about what OS other people use
>I argue about which linux distro is better on the internet
Nope it's not, I'm using for more than a month, and it's quiet good, customizable, makes you efficient.
Clean, and beautiful ==> nice to look at !
And it's juste work well.
>>53019726
>implying that you can't install any DE on any distro
>KDE
Not even once.
Still bloated as shit. Doesn't run that way. Been pretty happy with it. It just works
>>53024041
>>53019726
>>53020053
I'm using Kubuntu 14.04 (with KDE 4) right now and it's good. However, I heard that the maintainer left and the future is unsure. Can anyone comment on that? Should I upgrade to 16.04 to get that sweet KDE 5?
>>53026355
Get Arch
>>53019726
Install Gentoo.
KDE has gone to shit, though. 3 was god-tier best DE ever made, 4 was dogshit until recently and is now merely usable (still the best modern option), and 5 is even worse and depends on systemd now.
>>53019726
I use chakra.
pro:
It is a really good repository
Really nice setup
con:
You have to be associated with arch.
>>53026998
Fuck you and your meme distro. I want a "it just werks" Linux, but I also love KDE's customizability
>>53027206
It werks you moron, "Xorg broke" is just a meme.
>>53027206
This. Use gentoo, not Ar "3 hours of debugging every day and 5 more of auditing during updates" ch.
>>53019726
Which one should I install? Kubuntu, KDE Neon or OpenSuse?
>>53027283
gentoo
>>53026998
How do you get KDE4 on Arch? It's not in the repos anymore.
>>53027364
You don't. Either you use the latest bleedingest edgest version of everything, or you don't use arch.
>>53027386
I just want a distro with both KDE4 and Yaourt, because AURs have some shit I need that isn't anywhere else. What are my options?
Fedora. KDE Plasma 5 w/ Fedora workstation.
>>53027396
Gentoo.
>>53027396
yaourt is just a script so you can compile stuff from github.
If you can't do that on any distro, don't use that software
>>53027413
Shut up already
>>53027255
I've never had any horrible issues with it. Plus the AUR is fucking sweet.
>>53027429
Teach me how to get AURs on Debian and not explode my system then
>>53027446
It's literally just a shitty version of portage.
>>53027432
Telling it how it is, senpai.
>>53027685
>"Hey guys I want to make chocolate ice cream but for some analogyless reason I can't find a good recipe to mix ice cream with chocolate, any ideas?"
>"First you'll have to learn about parallel universes"
This is how you sound
>>53027731
>I am literally inbred
This is how you sound.
>>53027768
Dumb shitposter
>>53027475
git clone <repo>
cd <repo>
./configure
make
sudo make install
If there is an "error: lib<something>.so no such file" then install that application.
Debian has a lot of packages.
The amount of packages you need to install manually is not that high
>>53027823
Debian doesn't even have half as many packages as gentoo, which has notably less packages than arch.
>>53027823
That's just software mustard gas. Those packages were most likely built with the latest dependency versions in mind, no way this shit will work well.
>>53027848
quality > quantity
AUR is a really dumb idea
>>53027907
You're the dumbest motherfucker in the universe.
>>53019726
Debian Stretch/Sid
>>53027907
How many times were you hit in the head as a child?
>>53027875
you have not built a lot of software have you?
>>53027930
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>>53027206
Just use openSUSE then.
>>53027983
No. But it's been hit or miss the few times I had to
>>53024691
>This is my first day on gee
>>53027993
Current openSUSE is less stable than Arch.
>>53027957
>>53027930
>letting teenagers in control of maintaining packages
>thinks this is a good idea
>>53027984
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>clinical retards
>>53026355
Mint 17.3 KDE edition. pretty good
>>53028029
>implying implications that were never implied
>preferring nothing to something
>>53028029
That's why you only pick stuff you really need, dumbass. It's there for the time when you'll have to use it.
>>53028029
>letting teenagers in control of maintaining packages
That would include the whole distribution, not just the AUR :^)
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>>53028006
but most of the time it is a missing dependency and you can either install that on debian or any system or if it is mislabeled, make a symlink and see if it works.
Getting software to work is not hard as long as you can compile it yourself.
Worst case is that you have to find an older version that works with your old libraries.
>>53022867
arch does kde as good as anybody else.
>>53028265
>but most of the time it is a missing dependency and you can either install that on debian or any system or if it is mislabeled, make a symlink and see if it works.
And you're expecting me to do that for every single one of those dependencies?
>Getting software to work is not hard as long as you can compile it yourself.
Hard? Depends on your meaning of hard. It's a tedious annoyance that I really don't like doing.
>Worst case is that you have to find an older version that works with your old libraries.
Which is almost always a pain in the ass.
The only old version I actually want is Plasma 4. Everything else could stay Arch. But either I'm looking at the wrong places or I just can't seem to find it anywhere.
>>53028356
don't install kde with pacman then.
Get the latest kde4 from kde's git and compile it yourself. There is not a lot of updates for those applications, so it shouldn't be too hard.
>>53019726
I don't know the best KDE distro. Debian 8 with KDE is my favorite, though. It's not a bloated mess, but I do like the change up the themes and such because I think it looks a little shitty by default.
>>53022867
Of course it matters. The KDE is not always just slapped on top of a distro but is actually adapted and tweaked in a way that is beyond the capacity of average users.
>>53028568
P.S. if by bloated you mean memory hog, I'm running this on a 2 cpu netbook with 1 g of ram w 2 problem.
>>53028591
woops I mean no problems. except for typing I guess lol the keyboard is small
>>53028575
This. Some distros take the standard bug set of Plasma 5 and expand on it with their own in-house ones.
>>53028018
>he actually believes this
Arch is a meme distro on /g/. Promoted by a lot of chill runs who don't know their behind from their elbow. While there are most definitely very knowledgable and good guys running Arch systems, here it's a meme distro because of the whole misconception it's somehow 1337 in comparison with others. It's not.
>>53028677
>>he actually believes this
I speak from experience actually. I haven't used Arch much, but I have OpenSUSE and it's state is pretty confused right now.
>>53028714
>it's state is pretty confused right now.
explain?
>>53028805
The "Stable" base of Leap doesn't mesh well with the borderline bleeding edge packages they're releasing for it. And Tumbleweed is basically a watered down Fedora Rawhide/Arch with YaST stuck in its ass.
And KDE Plasma 5 the stupidest most buggy POS that to this day lacks a plenty of features from 4, yet it's the official DE of OpenSUSE. You'd think they optimize the system around it, but instead they've introduced more bugs.
>>53028921
Shit, and here I was considering switching permanently to KDE and OpenSUSE at that.
It's a sad thing all Linux DEs outside of KDE are rather limited functionality even compared to Windows. KDE is the only DE I've used that comes with a great WM and extensive toolset.
What's wrong with KDE5?
>>53028714
>>53028921
There are a lot of people running stable OpenSUSEs so your experience seems idiosyncratic. It is clear, though, that you have a monumental butthurt about the distro. Emotionally out-of-control people (like teenagers) tend to be poor judges of anything because they make mountains out of molehills in their immature raging. There are simply way too many variables to say your issues are specifically due to OpenSUSE.
>>53028990
I mean you can try it yourself. But I have it right now as a dual boot with Windows, and I rarely log into it. Been lured into it by the prospect of YaST, but in my experience it's kind of hit and miss.
>>53029084
>ad hominems
>>53027206
>have Kubuntu 15.04, works decently well
>15.10 is out, prompted to upgrade
>Kommits sudoku
>last thing I saw was it attempting to update (officially provided and supported) fglrx
>KDE desktop used to crash and restart fairly frequently
>had to disconnect 2/3 monitors to get the installer to even start
>had to only use 1 monitor on HDMI before installing fglrx, DP would make it fail to boot even after installing
Last time I tried it, it hardly "just werked" but that being said it was pretty much the desktop distro I liked the most.
Vanilla Ubuntu ran at ~15FPS I'd guess with 3 monitors, on a fucking 290X. I cannot even imagine how the fuck that is possible. I don't even want to know what the fuck was going on with that shit.
>>53029109
A real ad hominem argument fallacy involves a personal attack that is essentially irrelevant to the topic. For example, trying to dismiss an argument about a philosophical point by pointing out the opponent has been convicted of domestic violence. Your butthurt and rage are relevant to your generalizations.
>>53029109
>>53029272
Which is, by the way, not to say butthurt is not understandable. Of course it is when your shit is not working like it should, but it's not really a good foundation for reasonable points of view.
>>53029272
What does your anonymous remote assessment of my "butthurt" have to do with OpenSUSE?
>>53022823
you have no idea what goes into packaging.
for example you are dealing with C++ here and can expect silent ABI breakage.
>>53024554
Kubuntu 14.04 LTS is supported for 5 years.
Debian 8 was released ~1 year later and is supported for ~3 years.
Debian LTS has no capacity to support something like KDE Plasma on its own and can at most support as long as Kubuntu.
>>53027398
that's not really Fedora Workstation anymore.
Fedora Workstation is defined by Gnome. It's also known as Gnome OS for a reason.
Even before Fedora Workstation, Gnome maintainers were allowed to break anything like BlueZ 5 and KDE SC suffered lots of times.
due to all that Fedora's lead KDE Plasma maintainer ragequit not long ago.
The only bloated part is the akonadi bullshit. If you use a minimal plasma setup you can boot your machine and DE with less than 400 MB of RAM. Very lean and advanced desktop, really. If it wasn't so fucking buggy it will be perfect.
>>53019726
Manjaro works great for me.
>>53027147
I personally had some problems setting up chakra. Its still a really great distro.
KDE vs. Gnome, which one sucks the least?
>>53030152
Nothing sucks more than Gnome
>>53030152
KDE Plasma doesn't break the window-centric workflow.
GNOME 3 is app-centric, which is pretty strange on non-smartphones, because there's no need to limit you on just one app.
openSUSE, works fine on my x200 and should fly with an ssd, just like my x220.
>>53019726
first of all, yes KDE is a bloated mess. but if you aren't using a computer from 1995 you can run it.
SUSE is the best KDE experience.
>>53019726
Slackware
