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So are you going to disable your ad blocker when you're being provided with a service?

You're destroying the delicate economy of the Internet.
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>>52991036
Yep, as long as the site only serves static images in the sidebars.

And doesn't have a fixed header on mobile. Not that that has to do with ads, I just fucking hate it.
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>>52991059
Oh, I guess for video sites I understand video ads. But that's it. Nobody else.
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>>52991059
But the site owner needs money the same way you do
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Nope, I press F5 a few extra times. That will show 'em.
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>>52991036
Ads are much worse for the internet than adblockers, they are known propagators or malware.

Ads are immoral, running a website with a harmful revenue method is harmful to the internet.
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I'll never disable my adblocker, even for sites i like
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>>52991036
>"please disable your adblock faget"
>literally two clicks to disable the AdBlock-blocking script in NoScript
>enjoy my no-ads experience
Who's the dummy now? :^)
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I prefer to pay for subscription services or contribute to content creators directly through donations / purchasing merchandise. I already pay to access the internet via my ISP. If something is useful to me, I will pay for it.
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>>52991089
The site owner should get an actual job

Maintaining a website isn't very time consuming. If their job IS the website, ie: publishing, they should paywall that shit. Oh, but then they would have to make something worth paying for and put out new content at a reasonable rate... so hard. Work is too hard. Ad money pls!

Also, the ad-funded internet necessarily gravitates towards low quality, because nobody concerned with the viewed content is actually paying, and nobody is holding anything to good standards except a few autists, but "creators" are still getting money and making more of the same shit that inevitably devolves into clickbait like a cave lizard eventually loses its eyes.
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>>52991089
Okay, cool. So serve good ads and I will turn off adblock. Did you not understand it the first time I said it?
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>>52991111
>le ads are malware meme
This isn't four inches in four weeks, or 3 easy steps to speed up your computer

We're talking about respectable ads from valuable sites you're stealing from
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>>52991165
Name a major site that hasn't had malware in their ads

You literally can't, even youtube has had it happen multiple times
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>>52991036
Here is the real problem with ads. THEY ARE ANNOYING! We need to find a new way to deliver ads that are subtle for the consumer,dont distract or get in your way and be effective for the client.

Video ads which u can skip after x secs are a good ( not perfect) guideline.

But I agree, ads are important for some services and they pay content creators and they provide free. I get it but it needs a change.
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>>52991165
>respectable ads
Respectable ads are unintrusive and don't force you to watch them.
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>>52991136
>Internet destabilises
>All content behind paywall
>No free learning
>4chan pass obligatory to browse the 4chan-reddit conglomerate

You're right, everybody else is the dummy
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>>52991111
You can avoid that by not using malicious ad"blockers" like ublock origin that hides the ad.
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>>52991165
>respectable ads
>valuable sites
Thanks for that
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>>52991189
No, those are convenient ads

Youre just being entitled and think everything should come freely and easily
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>>52991069
Video ads are acceptable for videos. Unskippable video ads are cancer when they're longer than 7 seconds.
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>>52991141
This is ok

Anything else is NEET mentality desu
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>>52991211
I don't see a meaningful difference.

Thinking ads are a useful way of making money is not entitlement by any stretch of the imagination.
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>>52991196
Websites let a third party put code on their site, that they don't personally audit

I can't trust the website themselves, I have to trust the third party ad host, why should I trust them?
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>>52991144
>I'm salty because people have fun, happy jobs educating and entertaining from home
>they should get real jobs in a tiny desk cubicle like me
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>>52991194
>All shitty content of jewish origin behind paywall
>"pay $5 to learn the top five linux commandnsdsd!!!1!!"
>People who really care get donations or can sell freemium stuff

Most 4chan users block ads. Most 4chan profit comes from the optional passes. Ads = only necessary for sites nobody actually likes.

Remember the leak of how much fucking dosh moot made off passes?

And even then, the model of one loser hosting a server for a massive userbase might come to an end someday, and there will be no server bills for anyone.
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>>52991036
>i dont know how to use anti ad-block
lol op
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>>52991036
>/x/

fuck off paranoid schizoid
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>>52991194
>paywall
How about no? Even if we disregard libretards, there are different ways to go about advertisement.
And forcing me to watch the adverts and tracking my every movement instead of just using something subliminal? Not cool.
>>52991211
No, I think that the fucking advertisement industry should find unintrusive ways to advertise their product.
A small banner with an advert that takes up a little space like those on, e.g., nyaa.se? Acceptable.
"Hurr durr disable your AdBlock?" Deserves all the shit it gets.
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>>52991290
Nice try reptilian shill
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>>52991036
I'll start helping them when they start paying Internet providers higher costs for the amount of data they put into the network that ends up costing me instead from my ISP.
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>>52991036
Fuck off Goldberg, I'll keep blocking until ad-based revenue is no longer a thing on the internet.
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>>52991340
>I'll start helping them when they start paying Internet providers higher costs for the amount of data they put into the network

Are you retarded? That's exactly the kind of throttling scheme the ISPs want to push. As soon as that becomes a thing, you'll be torrenting your chinese cartoons with 20KB/s.
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I don't care about the internets economy. Fuck it up. I do allow ads on 4chan though.
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>>52991036
you're a fucking idiot who doesn't read anything of value anyway
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Ads are why websites track their victims. Content is no longer the reason why websites are made, advertising is, and luring people to see the ads and get tracked by your 600 JS scripts is the idea.
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>>52991404
I don't watch Chinese cartoons. Not my problem.
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>>52991369
Now this is the real entitlement.
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>>52991439
Fuck off
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>>52991141
Underated post
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>>52991404
Simple, make intentional throttling illegal and you get what you pay for given the backbone pipe you connect into can handle all the data for your area.
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>>52991452
Cry more child.
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>>52991457
>make intentional throttling illegal
>what is "plausible deniability"
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>>52991476
>>>/co/
Fuck off fag
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>>52991457
>make intentional throttling illegal

Great idea, Anon! The President will receive my proposal at our weekly dinner meeting.
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>>52991144
I agree with this.

The internet was pretty tolerant without blocking ads 15 years ago, notice that? Greed.
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>>52991512
I'm glad you liked the idea, maybe next week can lessen laws to let them walk all over you since you so much enjoy that.

>>52991493
You do realize certain tier ISPs have already gotten in trouble for intentional throttling right? It's like it's already not happening with the FCC takeover. Plus detectI'm of throttling isn't even a hard task when you can monitor and show that they either a) must be throttling or b) sold you a service that they could not provide
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>>52991549
15 years ago 10% people weren't blocking ads and that number wasn't growing extremely fast.

But I'm guessing ads weren't quite so shitty with the slower connections. I don't remember much from when I was 7.
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I'll never disable adblock. It would be great if all ad driven sites disappeared.
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>omg why won't you pay me money for my shitty videos of me playing videogames j_j

the internet was fine before jews realised they could make shekels from it, I have no qualms with destroying the 'delicate economy' of the internet if it means it will go back to how it used to be, pre-normalfag corporatisation
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>>52991036
The only content I consume is essentially worthless to me, as it is simply white noise, much like music, which I do purchase or use spotify for. As an example i usually listen to youtube videos in the background.

I simply refuse to listen to or watch or look at ads so they are blocked on all websites.

Ads by their very nature can never be unobtrusive, they have to grab your attention or they dont do what they are for, gaining someones attention and forcing some commodity or service in their face.

If a website decides that they dont want people blocking their ads reading, listening or watching their content, it is their choice and is perfectly understandable, but I will simply remove my bookmark to their site and never use it again.
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get out jews we are not disabling adblocking
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>>52991762
le edge
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>>52991778
Yet you still see these shity videos and get entertained by the work of others.

You are using this imageboard, a service that you aren't paying a dime to use.

Why don't allow these services and content creators to get some for their work?
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>>52991902
That's just the millennial entitlement
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Just disable on websites you feel fair and constantly use. It's not that hard.

Maybe just on the homepage, for example?
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>>52991902
>implying I don't have a pass
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I'm just gonna come out and say it. Deutschland 83 is fucking awesome and I applaud you for watching it OP
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>>52991902
>implying I use youtube

>implying 4chan going down wouldn't be a massive improvement to my life

jokes on you normo
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>>52991716
GIFs, dialers and popups (sometimes using frames), good times.

Pages were fast as fuck too as they were images and text, now its all optimized for mobile shite. I miss this format:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1558574.stm

Anyway I'm rambling, the point is the internet is shit now.
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>>52991036
Ublock Origin + Anti-Adblock Killer.
I can't even remember the last time I've seen an ad.
Suck my dick, OP.
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>>52991247
they can have those jobs, I don't care, but it just won't be me who's funding them.
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>>52991902
Enjoy crying about people blocking ads, because it won't change anything. Screw you web designers. Your only purpose is to market a website. You don't contribute anything; design is not content. The internet will be better off when the ad bubble pops because then it can focus on content not marketing.
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>>52992249
I installed the tampermonkey anti ad block killer script from greasefork
Didn't work

Halp
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>>52991036

I'll stop blocking ads when they start paying me for watching their content

>but you're already getting free content

they should reconsider their business model

>but you're not actually doing any WORK or PRODUCING anything

they're speculating with my presence on the internet, my spending potential and my societal relevance. I ought to get something in return, something I choose to get.

>this is completely one-sided. Think about their needs

That's their fault. I can send them all the emails I want asking for an appointment but they wont listen. They never scheduled a sort of online meet up so we can discuss our business relationship. They're the ones that don't even acknowledge us as equals.
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I wouldn't use a site which forces me to disable my adblocker simply due to security. We cannot rely on ad companies to serve content that isn't riddled with malware because tracking users with spyware is what they want to do and would do if they could.
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>>52992355
Op here again

Even when subscribed to the anti adblock killer userscripts, the channel 4 website still detects ublock origin

I challenge anyone ITT to outfox www.channel4.com

>>52992050
Thx bby
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>>52991165
We had a redirection malware thing from fucking 4chan a couple of months ago.

If i can't trust a site with this many users i will not trust any other
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Explore African American artists with Google.

Do you think Google is trying to cover up for their evil behavior by being a goody two shoes in public?
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>>52992616
4,3,2,1, earth below us, drifting, falling, floating weightless, coming coming home...
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>>52992616
>www.channel4.com
>"Flash upgrade required"
no thanks
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>>52991036

The channel 4 website blocks ad-blocking users? Fucking moot.

Joke's on you, I use Clover to browse it.
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i took it off for a day and there were viruses that autodownloaded through ads, automatic redirects that i couldnt keep to the same page with, transparent click fields to bring me to dangerous sites all over the content i wanted to see and click on...

Never again. its not just ads now. Find a new way to make money that isnt bad for the consumer
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Why does a website have/need acces to what addons the user have? Excep media players that no one uses(?) shouldn't that info be unavailable or should be spoofed or something?
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>>52992707
>you'll never have a baby momma and two qt sidechicks

SUFFERING
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>>52991410
not really anything to block, besides j-list though
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>>52992881
Stop going to tube porn sites
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>>52991036
>not using your HOSTS file to blocklist ads

AdBlock detection is script-based. Either use NoScript to disable the detection scripts, or use your HOSTS file to blocklist ads instead. The latter method can't be detected unless the site is actually requesting some kind of verification from the advertiser that your IP had successfully loaded the ad, which is extremely unlikely and probably doesn't happen anywhere.

I don't even have an ad-blocker installed. My HOSTS file has managed to block everything that's been thrown at my computer without any issues.
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I don't care about ads. I only care about the fact that it tracks you.
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>>52992779
>not using chrome
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>>52992050
>100% on rotten tomatoes
got dam, is it that good?
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>>52993464
>using chrome
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>>52991036
>You're destroying the delicate economy of the Internet.

Good. The only reason the economy of the internet is delicate is because it's based on profiting off of low-quality content that no one would directly pay to access.
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>>52991194
>Behind paywall
Yes please. Maybe we'll get some actually decent content then.
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>>52993574
Op here, I think it's bretty gud
Just tiding me over until GoT is back tho

Apparently it got a meh reception in Germany
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I've finished the episode, had to sit through the ads, and none of you helped in my thinly veiled quest to block anti adblock blockers

Thanks fa/g/s
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>>52993957
Germans are professional whiners when it comes to their own content. Just don't pay attention to it.
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>>52994222
>Germans are professional whiners when it comes to their own content

I know, I remember from 70 years ago
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> le gay porn
kek
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>>52995627
I'm glad you like my post-neomodern self aware satirical humour
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Ad blocker doesnt do shit on my site.

Ads are served as content. Fuck the police.
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>>52991196
>le uHide maymay
Fuck off
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>>52991457
>his country doesn't have net neutrality
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You should be happy that I block your ads. Every time I see an advertisement I think less of the product.
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>>52991505
There needs to be a global ban on western animation outside of /co/. That'll keep /co/ fags who've been fagging up the board out and only superior eastern animation will be allowed. It's a win win
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>>52991220
> longer than 3 seconds
FTFY

Really, I'd say 0 seconds. Trying to turn the internet into fucking cable television is retarded.

How about not forcing me to watch things? If I'm forced to watch an ad I immediately boycott whatever its advertising.
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>>52991290
> le government is trustworthy maymay
> lie there's no conspiracies maymay

I chortled. There's a massive corporate/government conspiracy to consolidate absolute power. They've more or less actually succeeded, at this point they're working on shutting down dissenting thought altogether.
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>>52991439
> missing the point this hard
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>>52993464
> actually wanting flash
> using google spyware
>>/v/
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>>52996591
That was a shill. If they say
>go back to /x/
Or more popular
>go back to /pol/
And don't bother giving an argument, they're a shill
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>>52991036

>So are you going to disable your ad blocker when you're being provided with a service?

No, never - and it feels great. Services on the internet existed before the rise of shitty ads networks and will exist after they go bankrupt. Ads poison any 'service' they 'support'.

Plus, pic related.
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>>52991036
Anyone who completely disables their adblock or who doesnt have adblock software in [current year] is a complete retard.
Though white listing sites is a completely different topic and totally fine if you think the site you visit deserves ad money and the ads are malware free and not very annoying.
This has lead me to whitelist 4chan for example.

>inb4 enjoy your malware
Won't happen, m8. Im sitting behind 7 Arches.
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Just use an adblock to block that message.
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>>52991194
No site has a future when they apply this payed model.
If reddit or 4chan would gate the site behind a paywall they would lose literally ALL their users and free websites that people like me would provide in this case would gain a few.

Your view on the future is fucking stupid, so I guess you are the only dummy here, moron.
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>>52991262
How much did moot-chan make of passes?
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>>52994222
Gerfag here, pretty much nothing we produce has artistic value.
On contrary, the quality of our industrially manufactured goods is quite good, so there's that.
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>>52991036
TVs don't stop me changing channels when adverts are on, I don't see why I should be forced to view ads on the internet.
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The internet was much better pre-social media, jewtube, and monetization.

The golden age of the internet for me was 2000-2004 when webmasters made websites for the fun of it and the best they can hope for in terms of ad revenue was just paying to keep the site up.
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It's funny when they try to use some kind of overlay.

>mfw right click, block element
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>>52996952

I agree, German engineering is on par with the Swiss and Japanese in terms of quality.

If only you guys had style like the Italians.
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The internet is a pull medium, not a push medium. I am legally liable for the code I allow to run on my machine and as such there's no reason to allow any website or marketing cunt to shit me up with ads.
It's definitely not my issue they chose to attempt monetizing the internet like a push medium.
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>>52996978
>I don't see why I should be forced to view ads on the internet

I agree.

The reason is because some entitled merchant believes that the stupid goy must be force fed ad-garbage in order to be a good little consumer. How dare you make the decision to not only reject ads for meaningless crap you won't buy, but, protect yourself from potential malware!

The brainwashing has long started trying to guilt people into feeling bad for rejecting ads and it's quite amusing.
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>>52996723
Hello, reddit.
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>>52997055
> dismissing obsolete, bug-riddled, insecure garbage
> dismissing a crappy proprietary browser pushed by the largest information-harvesting corporation on earth
> reddit

>>>/9gag/
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>>52997055
Kill self.
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>>52997137
I'm not that faggot that uses chrome and flash, I called you reddit because you write exactly like a newfag.
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Adblock is the future. Its pointless not to to use it. Everyone is nowdays. The economy of the internet should adapt to new changes.
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