And why does Lenovo love it that much?
Because it's cheaper to put in a shitty panel than a 1080p panel. Also power savings.
>>52947790
> why
pic related
>>52947790
no because it is the most optimal resolution in terms of dpi and battery life
>>52947808
>Lenovo
made to be serviced even by the owners
>Applel
lel, call the homosupport
>>52947808
>paying extra so the inside of your laptop, which you look at maybe 2-3 times over the life of the product if even that, looks nice
>>52947790
>Lenovo
Everybody does it. It's cheap, and potato enough for intel iGPUs to run.
>>52947820
>Lenovo
1366x768
>Apple
Not 1366x768
>>52947819
>no because it is the most optimal resolution in terms of dpi and battery life
So that is the reason why 5inch phones get 4K resolutions and 13inch laptops 1366x768?
k.
>>52947832
Lol my applel iGPU can run shit at 2560x1600 perfectly that's a bad excuse...
>>52947853
Gotta remember they're catering to normies, a bigger number = better to them
>>52947823
>implying mac users ever even attempt to service their laptops
>>52947853
cell phones are made to be carried in your pocket with the screen off most of the time and are held closer to the face when in use
>>52947927
I assumed they opened them up to jack off into the machine
>>52947823
> superior engineering, better parts and cable management looks better, what a shock!
>>52947819
>dpi
This t.b.h. My laptop feels comfy with 1366x768; my cousin's laptop looks really crammed at 1080p.
>>52948010
kek'd
>>52947808
I see one good thing and one bad thing there on the macbook. Looking at the ram, they might have had to increase thickness by maybe a millimeter or two in order to put a proper slot in.
However, Macs get /damn good/ battery life. Consider the entire back half of the case is stacked batteries. Less room taken up by other components = more room for power.
You'll notice no other MFGs do this. The lenovos/toshibas/etc of the world still just use massive block batteries that weigh more and have worse power specs. Sure, they're replaced easier, but by the time the battery has breathed its last, it'll be time for a machine upgrade anyways.
>>52947853
Screen size != resolution, dipshit. It takes less power to drive a 5in 4K display than a 15in one.
At least it's not netbook resolution. I fucking hated that.
>>52948082
>8294400 pixels use less power than 1049088 pixels
Bar AMOLED every 4k panel has 8x more pixels than 1366x768. Which won't mean 8x more power usage but it's definitely not going to be less than a 15" 1366x768 panel.
>>52948041
>crammed at 1080p
Learn to scale.
Not as long as subhuman spic favela dwellers exist
>>52948269
Yeah I'll just increase the monitor size on a laptop. How did I not see that?
>>52948310
fucking retard
>>52947790
Because society hasn't killed lenovo yet
Fuck lenovo
people complaining about "things getting tooo tineeyyy" when confronted with high resolution displays are the worst.
>>52947790
Because Lenovo can't into battery life and they need inferior screens to not kill your battery.
>>52947790
Why does others' screen resolution trigger you, cunt?
1366x768 looks fine on a 11.6'' screen 2bh
Also there's a ton of laptops out there with higher resolutions so i don't know what you're complaining about.
>>52948345
Agreed. High ppi for life. 150+ always.
>>52948365
Yeah, but an 11.6 inch screen doesn't look fine.
>>52948365
No it doesn't. Maybe if you are blind.
>>52948392
I disagree, sir. Looks fine on my netbook.
>>52948392
yes it does. even apple makes one.. and even use 1366x768.. yes apple uses 1366x768 on their laptops
>>52948065
This.
From a consumer standpoint I like being able to replace the batteries in my laptop myself easily, but the truth of the matter is I have a Pentium II laptop (came with windows 98!) that still operates perfectly on the original battery. Those things last a long time with good enough care.
>>52948345
Winderp 10 has decent DPI scaling now. Still looks cramped as fuck on 1366x768 though
Why would it die, it's higher res than 1280 x 720
>>52948421
That laptop is like 5 years old and they never bothered updating it. They stopped manufacturing it a long time ago and are just selling it to retarded normies now for extra money.
>>52948446
>selling to retarded normies for extra money
Hey, it's apple's business model.
>>52948446
except they have updated it, as recently as 2015 you mong
>>52948248
Bigger screen = more DPI, more GPU power, bigger backlight.
>>52948734
>Bigger screen = more DPI
lolwut
>>52947790
Compare the price now.
>>52948734
Are you retarded? larger screen at same resolution = less ppi
>>52948445
>higher res
By like 2%
>>52949204
/g/ never understood the concept of dots per inch
>>52949306
i understand it just fine. 768p means there is 768 dots per inch on the screen and that means the bigger the screen is the more dots so that means more battery
>>52949306
Who's surprised?
>>52949429
So you are fucking retarded.
>>52949429
768 dots PER INCH? What the fuck?
tfw even shitty monitors have a higher DPI than retina display
Incorrect, sir.
You have access to the internet, fucking google it.
>>52948345
>Get an awful 1920x1080 laptop/tablet hybrid thing from work
>First time using 8 or 8.1, home PC uses 7
>Find out the hard way that 8.1 has the fucking brilliant idea of randomly lowering the internal resolutions of some software on a smaller screen and slapping a bilinear filter on it
>Feature is not openly mentioned anywhere, fucks up a lot of things in a lot of software I run and makes everything look like ass
It was easy enough to resolve but who the fuck thought that was a good solution to DPI scaling?
>>52948010
>having cables exposed
>this triggered by apple master race
>this autistic
>>52949469
>768 dots PER INCH
i meant square inch not like 768 dots on every inch of line of pixels but in a square inch sized block there is 768 pixels
>>52949560
I know what you mean, but you're wrong.
1366 x 768 is a resolution. DPI or PPI is not only determined by resolution, but by screen size.
A 768p screen that's 3 inches diagonally is 522.36 PPI
A 768p screen that's 20 inches diagonally is 78.35 PPI
The same amount of pixel stretched out over a larger area = less pixels per square inch
And DPI and PPI is different.
>>52949429
The Sharp 8k tv has 108 PPI because it's 85 inches diagonally.
8k PPI would be fucking stupid, even if you were viewing from 1mm away.
>>52948445
>implying every res above 720p won't eventually die
Lel
>>52949667
i know 8k is retarded thats why even 4k is a meme because u cant see greater than 1080p
>>52948345
Because text size designed for 640x480 18 inch monitors is perfectly suitable for 3 inch 1080p screens!
>>52949815
You fucking meme ass troll, jesus christ.
Are you the general public? Leave.
>>52949480
Wait, seriously?
>>52949827
*cough* text scaling *cough*
This is 2016, we have technology.
>>52947808
LINUX AND WINDOWSFAGS BTFO
>>52949842
Windows seems to implement a lot of weird ass proprietary shit nobody asked for, and it fucks a lot of shit up.
>>52949842
Yeah, I eventually found out that it was the 'improved' DPI scaling solution they added in 8.1. I dread to fucking think what the old one was like if this is 'improved'.
>>52949887
The old one looked better but the new one works better. The old one scaled everything up and broke a lot of software but the new one just blurs everything that isn't text and bolds everything that is text.
That being said it works a lot better when there are no decimal points in scaling so that it doesn't have to interpolate rasterized elements, IE 4K screen with 2x scaling (effective space of 1080p)
>>52947808
>Hardware team at Apple
>"Let's custom design as much as possible so the machine fits together beautifully and every millimeter of internal space is put to good use. It'll cost us more, but it'll be worth it."
>Hardware team at Lenovo
>Alright guys, here's the basic dimensions of the case. Figure out the cheapest way to cram in these lowest-bidder off-the-shelf generic components. Use as many cables as you like, and oh yeah - if we have to cut back on battery volume to make it work just do it. Nobody needs that much battery life anyway!"
>>52949836
>namefag
You should leave as well
>>52950042
Shame Apple's software team is going to shit these days.
I went to a local shop and asked for used laptops with 1600x900 display and the guy said no one ever asked him for that res
>>52950052
I was using it to distinguish myself from other posters in one thread, and forgot to change it.
Not like it matters, tho.
>>52950109
Who goes to a local shop and asks for a specific res anyway?
>>52948248
>implying the crystals use more power than the backlight
ISHYGDDT
>>52947790
>And why does Lenovo love it that much?
They don't, they just cater to what's in demand. Normies who only use their laptops for browsing Facebook can't tell the difference between 1080p and 768p so why should any panel maker go out of their way and make any better screens? If a minority of people do want higher resolution screens, the companies charge them quite a bit.
In short, blame normal people
>>52947808
Well if people are paying more than double of other normal laptops, they damn well be better.
>>52950042
Well considering Apple takes so much money for their products, I won't expect anything else either.
>>52950358
If you have an OLED, they're the same component.
>/g/ would rather have 1280x800 over 1366x768
>>52950819
>/g/ would rather have Ultrawide 16:10 4k and you know it
>>52950042
Advanced blog-shill skills senpai
>>52950865
>Ultrawide 16:10
>Ultrawide
>16:10
>>52951393
>you can't take an obvious joke
>obvious
>joke
>>52947840
The MBA is 1366x768
You dont need more on a laptop, other resolutions are mostly meme tier.
>>52951636
>not having an ultrawide laptop
silly peasant
>>52950381
>they damn well be better.
>soldered RAM
>soldered CPU
>glued battery
>not serviceable at all
>better
Not to mention you already lose warranty if you get to see these internals of your MBP. Bravo Apple :^)
I like my 1366x768 laptop :(
Why are you saying that it's lenovo's fault?
I have a lenovo laptop and it has only FullHD and UHD variants.
(I have the FullHD one, the UHD one is touchscreen, so)
>>52952235
I like your laptop too c:
>>52951410
oh you should know that nothing is impossible on modern /g/.
the worst shitposting is way too often actually real ignorance
even my two years old laptop has 2160x1440 screen at 12", do they still manufacture 1366x768 panels?
really?
>>52952577
Because there's no demand from normies
>>52952631
There's demand.
>I want it to be 1mm thick and have a 1 year battery life
And they care about arbitrary shit like how it looks and how their friends see them because of it
>>52950042
>Hardware team at Apple
>OK, we're pretty much mainstream now. But quite a few of our customers are a bunch of computer illiterate media fags, a tradition hailing from the 80s. Therefore we gotta make the Mac totally weight symmetric in at least one axis. If the weight distribution is totally assymetric, then they will think that the computer is broken. It should also look really pretty if some of them acutally sees the inside.
>We also got a user base who just buys it for it to run the latest distro of Gentoo of, becuause they like freedom. Therefore we have to fill it with lots of autist useless stuff.
>Hardware team at Lenovo
>Git-r-done!
I genuinely think that for a 15" screen it's still the most comfortable resolution.
Anything more makes the text smaller and a pain in the ass to read, or you have to use the upscaling function, so what's the point already.
>>52947853
And that's exactly why more than standard HD on phones is fucking retarded and just normie bait.
>>52948444
It doesn't, though.
It fucks up a decent amount of stuff and you have to write a batch program to load on startup to go back and use win8 DPI scaling if you don't want random programs to start looking blurry as fuck.
>>52947820
But Apple were kind enough to integrate Flash directly on the hardware. My shitty games can run faster now!
>>52949549
>Apple apologist
>posts a nigger faggot
everything's alright with the world
My 13,3'' Acer notebook from 2010 has this resolution.
Higher resolution would make everything too small.
But Windows7 got some problems sometimes to display all the windows correctly, which means sometimes I cannot see everything.
>>52947868
The igpu in my self-built pc can run 4k videos smoothly, what's your point? This doesn't have anything to do with the brand of the computer, but the brand of the cpu/apu.
>>52953448
>Higher resolution would make everything too small.
Scaling is a thing you know?
>>52947790
Triggered?
>>52950109
That's normal, 1600 x 900 is a meme.
>>52947790
Only when 4k is new standard.
>>52948365
Why we then need 5.5" 1920×1080 screens on phones?
Lobtobs would have tiny text at stupidly high res.
720p was the 1st HD resolution, and probably the best.
>tfw clueless poorfag who fell for the meme and is now stuck with it
>>52953736
because phones have much different viewing angles and distances awhile laptops will only be used at least 1.5 feet from your face
>>52953773
Well even if you werent clueless you would still be a poorfag thus stuck with a shitty resolution anyway, dont be so hard on yourself.
>>52953229
>We also got a user base who just buys it for it to run the latest distro of Gentoo of, becuause they like freedom
But that's wrong faggot. Gentoo devs refuse to call it Gentoo GNU/Linux and Gentoo also strives users torwards nonfree software.
Apple also bring a lot of Macbook airs in 1366x768, because everything is shit now.
Let's keep our X61 / W500, guys! nothing to see here.
>>52953617
How do you even live
>all these people saying DPI=PPI
>>52947790
>when will the demand for cheap panels ever end?
never. why would it? if you don't like it buy more expensive hardware. many people are with it if it means a lower price. 1366x768 is no worse than 1024x768 being everywhere. they're both perfectly useable.
now 1024x600 was a bad idea and basically unusable without UI tweaks.
>>52947808
All I see is that one can be easily serviced and the other can not.
>>52952227
>Not to mention you already lose warranty if you get to see these internals of your MBP. Bravo Apple :^)
Doesn't every manufacturer do this?
>bought a msi notebook for muh mobile performance
>fans and heatsink start to get clogged by dust within a year, temps rise by the week
>have to void my warranty just to prolong its lifetime
>same shit is seen on friends and family's normie laptops
>>52951526
Only the 11" version (incidentally, the only screen size where 1366x768 gives a somewhat acceptable DPI). The 13" version has always been 1440x900. That's still not my optimal resolution but I'll take it over 1366x768 any fucking day of the week.
>>52953773
if you never had a problem with the resolution then there's no reason why you should be upset now.
it's only a problem if you used a high resolution display before and can't get it out of your head how awesome it was.
>>52955281
autism
>>52947790
>Lenovo
Almost every company out there releases laptops with that resolution screen
>>52953617
lol, poor people
>tfw Lenovo is the one of the major manufacturers that is actually pushing Full HD screens in consumer laptops
ok then op
>>52947820
>lelnovo
>serviceable by the owners
When this meme will die?
>>52947808
>paying literally 3 times the price for the same spec
This is why people laugh at apple.
>>52949469
>bearded weapon guy
I like you.
>>52958777
>only specs matter
>not the building and the engineering invested here
>>52950005
It's a "compatibility" feature that is enabled by default for some reason. You can disable it, but some older apps UI may look fucked. I think you can specially enable it for those apps, or disable DPI scaling for them.
>>52948041
I can literally see the screendoor effect on a 13" 1366x768 laptop.
>>52958843
>my fancy glowy apple is worth 3 times the price
>>52947808
at the cost of having to replace the entire mainboard if one component dies
>>52958931
>posted in my cheaply built chinkpad with 1200x600 screen and 30 minutes of battery
ITT: people justify a screen resolution that was already outdated 9 years ago
>>52959006
>implying i'm not on my glorious, better performing and cheaper stationary with 1680x1050 display
Why are you trying this hard to justify your poor purchase decisions?
>>52958843
Chromebooks are best if you don't care about specs.
>>52959098
>1680x1050 display
>calling me a "poor purchaser"
Kek.
>>52959128
Where he said he didn't care about specs?
>>52959135
>refusing to face reality
It's sad to watch honestly.
>>52959201
I have a laptop with good specs and almost the double of that resolution.
How that is bad purchasing?
I have 12.5" with that screen res. It's not bad for that size of screen but I wouldn't have it in any larger monitor.
>>52959378
Because you payed far more than anyone should have when you chose to get that glowy apple. numb nuts
>>52959462
And how this affect you anyways?
I used you money to do my purchase?
It's not bad hardware, in fact is better build that most consumer laptops in the market.
>>52959488
You're actively encouraging them to keep their shit as overpriced as it is.
That build quality is not worth the large increase in price, yet when tools like you buy their shit they don't have a reason to not inflate the price.
>>52948734
>a 20" WQXGA screen adds more stress to the GPU than a 40" WQXGA screen
>>52959586
And this how affects you?
You don't even buy their products for start.
>>52959627
I got the numbers backwards but still anon's a fucking moron
>>52959632
Think about it anon, if you weren't encouraging them to inflate the price, and other people weren't encouraging them to inflate the price. Then the price wouldn't be inflated, and you might have saved yourself at the very least 5k dollarydoos, assuming i'm right about which computer it is.
And just maybe I too would buy apple products if the price wasn't as inflated as it is.
>>52959676
Got the currency wrong.
It's more like 1k dollarydoos.
>>52947803
1080p panels are at the point where they're almost as cheap. Although, I assume you're right, in that OEM pricing is even cheaper. As for power savings, 1080 amoled is ridiculously efficient.
Never and /g/ will continue to defend it because they're bigger poor fags than /v/ and that's saying a lot. You see people on here going crazy for $200 laptops even though they could actually learn to budget money properly to buy something like a mac book or any proper laptop.
>>52958633
truth lives forever
>>52958633
I'm so sorry applboi.
>>52947808
Not sure if it's true with their more recent models but my Dell n7110 17r is very service friendly.
I used to have a drinking problem and would drop it all the time and shit. I changed out the screen, power and USB port card and keyboard. I also added another 4Gig ram stick to bring it up to 8 and replaced the hdd with an ssd.
It's also easy to open up and clean the dust and shit out. It still my main machine I use it in a dual monitor type setup with the builtin screen and utilize the vga out with xubuntu.
Was expensive when I bought it but still holds up I can even play csgo on lowish settings.
Don't know what the general opinion of dell laptops are here but this was a great investment for me (it was expensive as fuck when I bought it) and I would buy dell again.
My previous laptop was an acer and I would not buy one of those again...
>>52947790
works for me at 12.5 in with ips
TRIVIA: THE MANUFACTURING COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1366x768 AND 1920x1080 FOR LAPTOP SCREENS IS LESS THAN $5
KILL THE BEAN COUNTERS
>>52958905
go get an eye exam Paul
>>52958808
Bearded weapon guys is god.
>>52947790
if you don't want 1366x768 then don't buy it. Buy a 1080p laptop or fuck off, cunt.
>>52947853
Because are voting with your wallet.
People buy +1080 android phones meanwhile the average joe buy 1366x736 laptops
who 15.6 inch 1366x768 here?
>>52947790
1366x768 is 16:9 and 1920x1080 is 4:3.
For watch widescreen movies you need 16:9
>>52962394
>15" laptop
>>52962438
>yfw 1366x768 isn't actually 16:9, 16:10, or any other normal ratio
>>52962438
>1920x1080 is 4:3
no
>>52962438
>widescreen movies
you can watch widescreen movies on a 420x320 screen
>>52962450
>mfw I have a 17 inch laptop
Sucks being a DYEL manlet I guess
>>52962550
>hurr I'm a man I can handle it
Worst rebuttal yet still the most common. Step up your game son.
>>52947790
people buy laptops in physical stores and physical stores only sell 1366x768. Large resolutions is really a niche, if need 1080 or more there are specialized online stores.
>>52948365
No it fucking doesn't. I have a 12" 1366x768 laptop and that resolution is fucking dogshit. Makes me want to claw my eyes out every time I have to program or read something on it.
1366x768 and every company that still uses it needs to die in a fire.
>>52962580
I just don't really even notice its weight or size because I can pick up things heavier than a cheetos bag without complaining.
I guess that doesn't make much sense to you, does it?
Enjoy your gimped specs and >muh portability and your retarded little chromebook, faggot.
>>52962618
>Enjoy your gimped specs and >muh portability and your retarded little chromebook, faggot.
Who said I need to compromise? Even if I wanted a 17" laptop I wouldn't get one with a dGPU and preferably an Atom
>>52962678
Fucked up editing my post
Even if I wanted a 17" laptop I wouldn't get one unless it had an iGPU and preferably an Atom.
>>52962438
>Obvious troll is obvious
But i honestly encounter IT people like this daily, and it's absolutely fucking maddening. They actually believe this shit.
>>52962759
>i enjoy watching my entertainment media with black bars beside it (to ruin the immersion) or with warped proportions
>>52962790
Then buy a 21:9 and quit crying on the internet. 16:9 isn't even the digital standard for movies, you autist.
>>52962608
I'm using a 14 inch 1366x768 laptop and it's perfectly fine. 1080p would be nicer but whatever, it was cheap.
If you want 1080p you have to fucking pay for it. Stop being a poorfag and demanding better ship for cheaper.
>>52962701
>17 inch laptop
>cherry trail atom
>4gb ram
>all battery
>1080p screen
I'd buy it if it was 14 inch 2bh.
>>52958633
I have changed the keyboard (my dog jumped on my lap and broke a few keys off my laptop) and replaced the battery to a bigger one. I'm currently waiting for my HDD caddy so I can replace the optical drive, which is hot-swappable. Others have replaced the screen too, to get a higher resolution, but I already have 1440x900 on a 14" screen so I haven't needed that.
It's possible to open it up (and I have) so much that you could replace the thermal paste. I have cleaned all the dust off from it, even though it has a pretty good fan design that doesn't suck in all the dust from the room.
I have replaced the HDD inside to an SSD and I could replace the RAM at any point. Without actually upgrading the processor or motherboard or GPU or something, how could a laptop be any more serviceable?
Apple users will never know this joy of a long lasting design. Extremely lucky ones can probably skip one or two generations before it completely shits itself.
>>52955410
>Doesn't every manufacturer do this?
Not Lenovo :^)
You don't even lose warranty from replacing most parts.
>>52947820
>"ThinkPad" ultrabooks
>designed to be serviced by anything but the crusher
>>52947790
1366x768 gives a pretty standard DPI for a 13" monitor. Compare the DPI with a typical desktop 22" 1920x1080 or 27" 2560x1440 monitor. Laptops are just bad with tiny screens, shitty keyboards, touchpads, et cetera.
>$300 phone
>1080p
>$700 laptop
>1366x768
Explain to me why this is acceptable in current year
>>52967569
Because normies don't care
>>52967569
Phones need 2.2 times the PPI to render fonts that don't give you eye cancer.
>>52956472
he's right though
>>52948310
>being this retarded
>>52967761
Well laptop manufacturers should take that into account too because my 15.6" 1366x768 laptop provides me with a > 5 hour dose of eye cancer daily.
>>52951393
It needs to be 1:1 tho
>2016
>buying anything with a screen res <1080p
>>52949617
>DPI or PPI is not only determined by resolution, but by screen size.
It's determined by both.
>>52967569
because laptops are for actual work, not for putting ugly pictures on instagram or gaining social status among your high school friends, etc.
>>52967965
Why did you buy one with that resolution when there are others too? Did you think you could handle it? Maybe that's what other buyers are thinking too.
>>52953617
>ABP
Jesus Christ
When will you stop using the word meme to refer to anything you don't like, /g/?
>>52953617
how
>>52969262
no, and i use it for things i like too
for instance im shitposting on my thinkpad meme running the linux meme at the work meme
it also has this meme resolution
get memed
>>52968700
>It's determined by both.
>DPI or PPI is not only determined by resolution, but by screen size.
>not only determined by resolution, but by screen size.
>not only determined by resolution
>not only
Holy fuck you're dense
>>52954514
Then why is Failmans mug plastered with "Install Gentoo!"?
>>52969395
should probably have been "but also by screen size"
but t.b.h. i didn't notice that until he autismed it out
It won't die as long as you autistics keep buying it
>hurr hurr look le megboog is so overpriced guise, I can get a processor that advertises the same frequency and a dedicated 940m graphics card for $1000 less!
>Hurr hurr guise I just bought a laptop but holy shit why do Laptop keyboards suck so much, and what the fuck is with the screen, it sucks and trackpads are so fucking unprecise, the battery only lasts for two hours and it's all cheap plastic! How do people even deal with this? Notebook users BTFO!
It's the perfect resolution for everything except gaming.
>>52971218
No, that'd be something more along the lines of 1280x800
>>52947808
What exactly is he trying to say with this picture? Does he actually give a shit about how it looks inside?
