>/g/ told me that Linux is faster than Windows 10 and botnet free
>decided to install Ubuntu LTS and see for myself since /g/ told me that is the best starter OS for a noob like me and it's used by major companies.
>I find out that Ubuntu is actually slower than Windows 10 after using it for a few hours.
>the menus take forever to load, mouseovers are delayed, and even Firefox takes longer to open than when I used Windows 10.
Fuck that. I went back to Windows 10. Using it right now. It's faster than the Ubuntu LTS I had on it yesterday.
Linux actually made my PC slower than it was on Windows 10
>inb4 some NEET losers tell me I have to install some rice that takes away all the window compositing and use a completely flat paned UI which defeats the point of having a modern OS.
Fuck Linux. It's slower than Windows 10.
Don't fall for the Linux meme.
>>52908817
>Ubuntu
>>52908870
>moving the goalposts
>>52909045
>logical fallacy bullshit
Fuck off back to plebbit faggot
Dunno man Ubuntu is pretty fucking gay if you ask me...
I got interested in lincucks recently and spent a few days fucking around on my laptop, tried ubuntu and mint at first, nearly wanted to kms from being obsessive over included features. So I tortured myself and installed arch and now having a pretty splendid experience
You're right OP. A composited desktop is slow in Linux. This is what happens when you don't fucking install your graphics drivers.
Linux is faster than Windows, if you use a bare-bones autism distro that requires you to compile half the shit yourself, know what packages play well together and work the command line like a $2 whore.
>>52909090
>hurr install arch hurr durr its fastur
No. It's the same shit.
>>52909126
>Implying drivers even exist
Linux might be faster, but you'll spend all of that saved time plus a whole more fixing and downloading the shit that Linux manages to break time and time again..
>>52909126
The graphics drivers installed automatically after a notification popped up after install
>>52908817
Windows
>boot os
>wait for updates to finish
>computer has to restart
>after booting computer checks for updates to proprietary bloat ware
>install skype/dropbox/Java/adobe updates
>try to shut down after work
>windows installs 26 more updates before shutting down
Ubuntu
>boot
>os just works
>shut off
>>52909322
>Shutting off your computer
>Ever
>>52909045
My win95 machine is slower than my current setup.
People who say Linux is faster are liars. It's fucking clunky.
Of course Ubuntu isnt any faster it has a big heavy DE. Ive noticed cinnamon uses a bit less ram than windows while having the same amount of features.
You want speed? Then install lxle or just install lubuntu. You get a computer thats a lot faster but the DE is a little more basic.
>>52909350
Not everyone lives in a house where their parents pay for electricity.
>>52908817
>Ubuntu
Found the problem
>>52909350
If you use windows 10 Satya Nadella will come to your house and force you to restart you computer so it can update.
>>52909631
>buying electricity from botnets
>not making your own
>>52908817
Does your Windows 10 cold boot in 11 seconds?
And this was three years ago.
>>52909139
>I haven't tried it, but I know it's shit
-> http://reddit.com/
>>52909724
11 seconds is pretty slow, but faster than any Windows system I've seen. Even krumebook boot faster than that though.
>>52909784
I should hope so. m.2 is way faster than 11 USB2 flash drives in a RAID0.
>>52909045
It's not moving the goalposts, because you were almost certainly told up front what a piece of shit Ubuntu is.
>>52909139
> same shit
Yeah but this shit is light weight and without corn
>>52909708
> making your own electricity
> not mastering quantum mechanics and forcing the electrons from the things around you to power your device wirelessly
>>52909513
If you are talking about on new hardware, and a fresh install, yea Windows is pretty fast. On older hardware not so much. I rescued a Pentium 4 from going in the dumpster at work. It originally had XP on it, and the office manager had me clean the shit off of it a few times, before he decided to replace it. With XP using it was painfully slow. I took it home, and installed OpenBSD + Xfce. It runs great now. It's a perfectly good machine for web browsing, word processing, and other light shit like that. I love OpenBSD, but it's never going to win performance benchmarks against just about Linux distro, or the other BSDs.
Windows has a tendency to get slower and slower, more unstable, and produce more, and more errors over time. When I used to use it, I reinstalled it at least once a year, because that was easier than trying to find and fix (assuming the problem could be fixed--shitty documentation and licensing restrictions ensure that some problems can't be fixed) all the shit that went wrong with it since it was last installed.
I'm sure a lot of people can relate here, but I'm often the one that people I know brings their PCs and laptops to, to work on. It's not uncommon for someone to bring me once that barely boots, or doesn't completely boot at all, because of all the malware shit on it. Yes, a little common sense and a little effort would go a long way, but things are as they are. Most people don't comprehend that they need to keep on top of security and maintenance, and Windows is prone to this sort of bullshit anyway. It severely impacts it's performance.
I've never seen that happen to a Linux or BSD system. On the PC I'm using at this very moment, I installed Manjaro on it about a year ago. It works just as well today as it did when I installed it, and I've done very little maintenance on it in all this time.
>>52909090
I don't think that non arch users appreciate the capabilities and range of fully fuctional 'ports' from the AUR
>>52910242
why do you appreciate it?
which software from AUR do you need?
looks pretty gross when some binary distro doesn't manage to package their popular software and instead let's user compile it from source.
>>52909994
>Implying the motion of electrons is not electricity
>>52910301
spotify
>>52908817
Are you posting on /v/ right now, OP?
if you install kde, it also crashes a lot more as well
Hey look, it's the paid Microsoft trolls! How have you guys been? Are things better now that Ballmer has stopped throwing chairs at you?
Ubuntu is good for pulling old laptops back from the brink but the amount of shit you need to play with just to install software is a joke
>>52910301
I actually love compiling my own packages.
>>52908817
here's your reply
>>52911094
>sudo apt-get install program
Holy shit that was hard why couldn't I have just googled the program and downloaded some shady installer then manually executed it?
>>52910301
>pretty gross when a binary distro gives the option to install stuff they don't supply
>Ubuntu
>LTS
you might as well use Windows you piece of shit
>>52908817
Keep Windows 10 and get the fuck back to /v/
Don't come here again.
>>52908817
>Linux actually made my PC slower
>Ubuntu
Even Richard Stallman said Ubuntu is literally shit.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXnfa0H30L4&ab_channel=planetubuntu
>>52909045
>M-M-MUH GOALPOSTS
>even though all of what you mentioned was false if you have 4GB RAM and up
>>52908817
>ubuntu
I wonder why your computer is slow
Could it be that you have every package under the sun installed and preconfigured to autorun?
>>52909513
I don't know man, it's running pretty fast for me.
linux is windows for poorfags
>he fell for the Linux meme
Anybody who knows what he's doing uses BSD
I'm sorry you got suckered into using what is essentially the FOSS equivalent of Windows
>>52914127
windows is an os for toddlers.
>>52914134
this
>>52908817
Using mint/dual boot now. Mint is as fast as windows if not faster.
>0.05 cents have been deposited to your account, Sanjeet. Thank you for doing business with us.
>>52914367
Mint and windows in dual boot*
>>52908817
God, I hope you are a troll. /g/ is becoming more retarded and incompetent every day it seems
>>52914496
There has been a steep decline in post quality over the last 24 hours. I don't know what's happening.
Is there a school holiday somewhere?
>>52914508
Yeah, I wonder. The part of me that is not suicidal tries to believe that these are trolls. But then again some of the stuff thats postet here is too stupid to be fake
>>52908817
>faster
>metric
fuck off
>>52909606
No, it's not.
I used to use Xubuntu for years, and while it's a great OS and I respect it for what it is, it's still slower than Windows 10.
Not to mention, Windows 10 is supposed to be a "heavy" OS with many bells and whistles.
"Linux is fast" is a dead meme.
>>52910921
yes
>>52911991
This is why people hate Linux users.
>menus take time at all
bunk
>ubuntu
OP is retarded.
>>52908817
fell for the freetards commie meme
>>52909606
>You want speed? Then install lxle or just install lubuntu.
Lubuntu is also slower than Windows 10.
Any Linux distro with compositing is slower than Windows 10.
I love how so many people are saying that Ubuntu is bad instead of being honest and saying that Linux is bad at desktop UIs in general.
Is Xubuntu free from amazon spyware?
>>52909045
Idiot. Ubuntu is a shit distro, if you are just starting out try Mint.
>>52915280
Didn't you know? When somebody criticizes Linux, it's always
>(insert distro that I don't use here)
>no wonder you think linux is shit!1!
>>52915451
>Ubuntu is a shit distro, if you are just starting out try Mint.
What's the difference?
>>52915470
No bloatware, or NSA shit.
>>52915625
>no bloatware
Mint has at least the same amount of bloat as Unity.
>>52914508
At least where I live school was canceled due to the weather, for the last two days.
>>52908817
Nice blog OP. Here goes mine:
>/g/ told me that Windows 10 is faster than Linux and botnet free
>decided to install Windows 10 and see for myself since /g/ told me that is the best OS for a noob like me and it's used by major companies.
>I find out that Windows 10 is actually slower than Ubuntu after using it for a few hours.
>the menus take forever to load, mouseovers are delayed, and even Firefox takes longer to open than when I used Linux.
>Fuck that. I went back to Linux. Using it right now. It's faster than the Windows 10 I had on it yesterday.
Windows 10 actually made my PC slower than it was on Linux
>inb4 some NEET gamers tell me I have to install some IOBit Advanced System Care that takes away all the Cache and use a completely flat paned OS which defeats the point of having an efficient OS.
Fuck Windows 10. It's slower than Linux.
Don't fall for the Windows 10 meme.
>>52916134
boring
>install Windows
>everything is suddenly worse
Explain this shit.
>>52916419
So is OP
>>52908817
>complain loudly that Linux isn't getting the enormous marketshare it deserves
>crusade against windows, point out all it's flaws in an effort to get more people to switch to Linux
>people switch to Linux and find that the experience is shit or it doesn't work as well for them or their needs
>Loudly insult intellect of said users and lay blame squarely at the feet of switchers
>Go back to complain that Linux has no desktop marketshare and everyone else must be fucking retarded
Round and round we go, y'know.
>>52908817
>When stupid people try to install linux.
Tech retards everybody.
>>52908817
>Crawled back to windows
Made the right choice, Prajeet
>>52916518
>>52916534
Windows 10 is faster than both your desktops.
here is some advice for you OP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU
>>52916960
>>52909724
Mine boot in 14 seconds
But it have to go trought GRUB and windows user selection
Ind is far from optimal since I have a lot of start up programs
>>52909724
>alsa
>X
>slim
nice, you have literally an shitty barebone system booted after 11s, ms-dos boots in less than 3 seconds on my athlon64
>>52915470
It's a more polished version basically. A lot of the bullshit of Ubuntu (spyware) is stripped out, and it has it's own repositories--Ubuntu is less conservative about updates and shit, so software is slightly more up to date, but that can be good or bad.
I'd recommend Mint Xfce, but Xubuntu actually compares pretty favorably there. Xubuntu also strips out much of Ubuntu's shit, and offers a better default DE--Anything > Unity or Gnome3. Xubuntu uses Ubuntu's repositories. Xubuntu also doesn't come with non-free software, however it's not hard to install yourself, if you want it. Mint's Xfce looks and feels nicer imo, but Xfce is highly customizable anyway, so either way you are not stuck with the default. All in all I'd rank both about equally.
Also, if you like customization and/or minimalism, I'd recomend Fluxbox over Xfce. I like Xfce, and it's the one I've used longest and most, but lately I've been using Fluxbox more and more, and like it better. It's not a full DE. It's a window manager. You use it to build the exact desktop you want without the bloat of a DE. Xfce is light compared to most DEs but it's still more bloated than it needs to be. Just my opinion though.
>>52917904
Xfce is shit
>>52909784
>11 seconds is pretty slow
using hdd or ssd?
>>52909127
>work the command line
>implying real work is done anywhere else
>>52908817
You installed the linux equivalent of Windows Vista, congrats
>>52908817
How can linux be so full of crap.
You can't even install anything without doing console crap commands.
Just tested wine to run zsnes and nope, it's fucking frozen, whole fucking desktop is frozen lol. No way to kill process either alt+f2 does nothing. ctrl+alt+f1 brings up this useless console that does nothing.
this is the power of linux
>>52908817
No, stick with Linux. You can learn to rice it and be a true gentooman
>>52918768
>linux works great
>runs windows program on linux
>fails
>blames linux
>>52918768
>a non essential third party program caused Linux to crash
>clearly this is all Linux fault
>>52918799
>>52918849
that's no excuse, GUI is complete crap
>desktop frozen
>have to type password to terminal
>top
>check ID
>go back and give password to terminal again
>kill ID
>desktop still frozen
repeat whole shit
>>52918932
X is a piece of shit and can be crashed/frozen way to easily.
>>52918983
i've used windows over 15 years and it has never frozen like this.
>>52919038
okay lad. explorer shits the bed real easy.
>>52919231
when explorer shits the bed, this linux already swims in it.
skype is beautiful on linux
>>52918722
Real work is, in fact, done somewhere else.
>>52919305
skype stopped deving linux version atleast like 6 months ago
>>52908817
>Fuck Linux. It's slower than Windows 10.
Kek
Linux is not Ubuntu
Maybe try Elementary OS or Mint?
>>52919330
I think it's more like a couple of years ago, the download page only mentions Ubuntu 12.04.
Tbh I like the interface more than the new Windows interface, with the only exception being that it doesn't minimize to the notification bar thing properly.
>>52919412
yeah the current "modern" one is dogshit, thats why i use 6.20 version
>>52910301
lol
local/android-sdk-platform-tools r23.1.0-2
local/antimicro 2.21-1
local/arduino 1:1.6.7-1
local/babl-git 0.1.14.2.g746b5b6-1
local/cover-thumbnailer 0.8.3-4
local/doom3bfg-data 1.0.34.6456-1
local/fmit 1.0.12-2
local/gegl-git 0.3.4.54.g026bfb8-1
local/genymotion 2.6.0-7
local/gnome-shell-extension-weather-git 1:r580.5c44f2f-1
local/gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet-git 700.81d1c08-1
local/gnome-shell-theme-super-flat-remix 1.0.2-1 (gnome-shell-extensions)
local/google-chrome 48.0.2564.109-1
local/gputest 0.7.0-1
local/mednaffe 0.8-1
local/mozplugger 2.1.6-1
local/mprime-bin 287-1
local/mpv-git 42763.g35bdb63-1
local/nautilus-admin 0.1.5-1
local/openarena 0.8.8-3
local/popcorntime-bin 0.3.8.5-5
local/python-argparse 1.4.0-2
local/python-eyed3 0.7.9-1
local/python-fudge 1.1.0-1
local/python-soundcloud-git r111.d77f6e5-1
local/python-wget 3.2-1
local/python2-socks 1.5.6-1
local/qtox-git 1.2.r329.g3307855-1
local/rainbow 2.5.0-1
local/rbdoom3-bfg-git r556.5e7e59c-1
local/regen 0.95-7
local/retroarch 1.3.1-1
local/screenfetch-git 1:3.7.0.r44.g22e5bee-1
local/soundcloud-dl-git r121.c3d87d2-1
local/tor-browser-en 5.5.1-1
local/ttf-google-fonts-git 20151124-1
local/ttf-inconsolata-g 20090213-3
local/ttf-monofur 1.0-6
local/ttf-vista-fonts 1-8
local/wps-office 10.1.0.5503_a20p2-1
local/youtube-dl-git 2016.02.04.3f7e875-1
local/zandronum2 2.1.2-1
>>52918613
The really cool thing about having a choice in desktop environments and window managers is that you don't have to use any that you don't like. Pretty fucking neat, huh?
>>52908817
Aaaaand no information other than "it's shit.". Quality post.
>>52910788
are you really using their oudated fat client when there's a perfectly fine web client?
>>52908817
>things that never happened
Nice post, Rajeet! ;)
>>52919835
>Richard,
>
>The issue is that Gnome ***by itself*** *cannot* solve the configuration
>swamp, no matter what you call the aggregate system.
>
>The problem can only be solved by a bunch of projects working together
>to solve the problems all of us have made, or at best we are pumping
>water (and other things) from one place to the other in the swamp.
>
>For example, right now we have the font morass (actively being drained),
>where font configuration goes on in at least 5 or 6 places.
>
>Then there is the mime-type swamp, where it gets configured in a similar
>number of places (gnome, kde, /etc/mime* pluggerrc, mozilla, Apache,
>etc...)
>
>Then there is the documentation mire: man, info, docbook, html, scrollkeeper,
>(...), etc.
>
>And there are more.... A developing swamp is the definition of embeddable
>objects (graphics plugins). We have bonobo, kparts, netscape/mozilla
>plugins, to name three sets.
>
>And so on.
>
>Each of these swamps needs serious draining. This swamp is not of
>natural creation, but one formed by the people. You have personally
>contributed to making the swamp, as have I. Lets work together to
>reclaim good ground, and drain most of all of the swamp.
>
>For GNU, *BSD, X, Linux, Apache, Bind, Sendmail, Samba,
>etc. to truly revolutionize the world, the different projects *must*
>begin to work together to solve them, independent
>of other considerations. *NO* single project can solve these problems.
>It will require serious technical work (between projects), serious
>political work (between projects), cooperation (betweeen projects)
>and yes, at times, compromises.
>
>So please get off your hobby horse and help unite the free/open source
>communities on this topic; everything that divides us makes proprietary software stronger no matter what we call ourselves.
>
> - Jim Gettys
>Several articles say that kernel 3.17 supports Xbone controllers
>Have latest kernel
>Plug in Xbox One controller
>Nothing happens
>Ask several linux boards why
>Every single one tells me to go to ask ubuntu
>No one will answer
Why are Linux users such liars?
>>52908817
yeah I also fell on the linux meme, and I agree with you, it's absolutely garbage almost in every way possible, I tried mint, ubuntu mate, ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, devian and opensuse, the only good thing about linux is how fast it is to set up programming shit
>>52908817
Cool, report back once your registry and all that other shit filled up in a few months.
>>52921699
>>Ask several linux boards why
that's not how you report bugs, retard
>>52921809
it's not 2000 anymore.
if you aren't retarded and install some crapware, windows will not slow down.
Linux distros is faster if you configure and tweak everything properly, if you dont know how and dont want to learn windows is the os for you.
>>52921926
bullshit. windows is better for desktops:
1. better drivers (or any drivers at all)
most distros aren't even in the business of updating their kernel within a release. but the only way to get new drivers on linux is to get a new kernel.
2. no slow X11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44
3. upstream that cares
mozilla can't optimize much for totally fragmented linux landscape, which even rejects their bundled libraries and wants to build it themselves w/o much profiling
>>52921926
Operating systems are supposed to be hassle free so you can be productive and get shit done, no one gives a fuck about you typing haxxor commands on a shell and googlin os problems because you don't have nothing better to do
>>52909724
>constantly having to reboot the machine
Get a load of this pedophile
>>52921564
>implying
>>52921926
>Linux is supposedly better
>but I have to do a lot of work to make it better than Windows
You guys just keep making Linux look like a NEET Timesink.
>>52921892
>windows will not slow down
(You)
>>52909350
You're right, W10 never shuts down so it's actually wrong to say it "boots" faster
>>52921095
He said it's not as responsive as Windows 10. Why are you acting like he didn't say that?
>>52921699
>gaming on linux
Congratulations you found the one reason you should have a windows install
>>52918768
>using wine to run a emulator that has a native linux version
>>52919231
>Crtl+Shift+ESC
>Restart Explorer.exe
>>52909724
>not using SystemD
It's like you actually want an outdated hellaslow boot
>>52908817
I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 and it boots just as fast as Windows 7 did. I don't see the problem. I'm using a Thinkpad T420.
>>52919330
and it will live on in this perfect state
>>52908817
>>52923170
Booting is not the issue.
>>52923765
Everything runs pretty smoothly on my machine. I'm not sure what the issue is... I've never used Windows 10, but loading up Chromium on Ubuntu is just as fast as Chrome was on Windows 7. I don't have any noticeable lag. I don't know what to tell you, as I'm really not a computer expert.
Despite the bait, it is a valid question to doubt the performance argument for Linux. People all know it's less convenient and their impression from back in XP/Vista told them that Windows is slow as shit so Linux must be faster on all fronts right?
Thing is my personal experience shows absolutely no evidence of that. And I think there is a real performance gain from Win8/10 to before that people often ignores.
>>52923964
>loading up Chromium on Ubuntu is just as fast as Chrome was on Windows 7
that's bullshit as proven by your very own X.org devs
next thing you claim that unofficial Chromium is as good as official Chrome while ignoring what Google says
>>52924371
>bullshit
I'm just going based on personal experience. It didn't feel any faster or slower on either operating system.
I don't use Chrome because I've read a bit about their RLZ tracking and targeted ads and it's kind of spooky, but I still prefer Chromium over other browsers.
>>52923964
Windows 10 is faster than Windows 7 and Linux. I've seen it myself.
>>52909322
>Being this wrong
>Install 10
>install games
>done
Dont need to do updates if you dont want to
And besides.
We can game.
>>52909724
I got that 2 second push start on win 10
KDE these days is downright amazing.
>>52924768
Linux can game too, /v/ memer.
>>52924768
> gamer
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>>52924768
I play a ton of games on Linux.
>>52924883
Linux has no real games but 2d scrollers
>>52908817
Uhuh sure you did. If you say so op.
>>52924873
Saved
>>52923170
oddly enough I'm running ubuntu of a cheap chromebook and it runs better and faster than either Fedora or Mint did
>>52924923
That's mostly what I play so yeah. Shit like retro-style indie games, roguelikes, emulators, that kind of stuff. I'm 31 and I've never been big into fps, rts or mobas.
>/g/ lied to me
More at 11
>>52924726
but slower than 8.1, which is only logical as most internet connections nowadays still have very slow upload rates
>>52909322
Linux
>boot
>os just works
>nothing to actually do
>reboot on windows
>>52925272
>Linux updates
firehose
>Windows updates
once a month
let's guess which model sysadmins like more
>>52925272
>booting into Windows to avoid work
>>52908870
>>52909869
So what exactly is wrong with Ubuntu? I've put it on two machines in the past and they both flew. No issues at all except something that went horribly wrong with a Chrubuntu install.
What's a better distro? I'm proficient enough to hate Windows, but I can't do every little thing through command line and write a new script every time I have to wipe my ass. What are Ubuntu's faults?
Don't tell me just that it's popular. Things I didn't like about it were the default UI and stupid app store.
Is Debian better? Mint?
>>52925339
So you're saying that system administrators must install updates immediately and cannot install once a month?
>>52925444
Unity sucks. It's ugly, slow, and hard to customize.
Ubuntu is actually one of the better distros as long as you use a proper DE.
>>52925339
Linux, obviously. Having updates made available immediately is always better. Nothing says you have to install the updates immediately, though it is probably a good idea. And with any decent Linux system, you can choose what updates to install with a level of granularity far beyond what Windows offers.
>>52925495
I remember switching it to gnome and that looked a lot nicer. I actually didn't even fuck with it after that because I really enjoyed it.
My main concern is encountering something in a distro that I just can't do. I'm happy to just google instructions and learn something new step by step, but I don't like lack of direct support for programs and having to jump through hoops to do basic shit. I liked Ubuntu for just being a regular fucking user friendly OS, but it was SO user friendly that I never learned much using it.
What are the advantages of distros that require a lot of manual fucking with things through command line? I don't do any programming, I just like being able to browse, do homework, torrent, and watch media. What do you actually DO with the command line that's better than just installing a native version of the application?
>>52923131
SystemD didn't exist.
Initial release 30 March 2010; 5 years ago
>>52910202
OpenBSD is the best Unix available and flies fast on almost any hardware new or old.
My main complaints for desktop use are slow boot/shutdown time and random annoying port quirks. Most recently Xfce used 100% CPU, mpd paused itself after every song, numerous outstanding GTK3 visual bugs like missing check boxes. Most annoyingly, tmux command history seems broken with urxvt. Xfce4-notifyd disappeared for like 6 months. The major ports like Firefox and Gnome 3 work perfectly.
This is partly due to shitty software being forced into an uncannily secure execution environment. The OBSD calibre has no access to USB devices, for example. Linux has taught me you really do need a tangled shitstorm of a base to accomodate all the features of shit like calibre.
>>52925712
>he believes time
How does it feel to get cucked by your operating systems clock?
>>52916134
0/10
I highly doubt you went any further than running off of your USB stick, friend.
>>52925930
I definitely installed it. I even wiped Windows 10 off my PC so I could go in all the way.
>>52925963
Are you sure you weren't booting into the USB after that though?
>>52908817
Unity, GNOME 3 are known to be shit. There's simply not enough manpower for what they want to do, so they end up poorly optimized. GNOME 3 in particular has some really nice features, but manages to crash all the time for me.
This is an issue with linux, because Ubuntu is viewed as *the* linux distro. IMO you should at least use a different flavour of Ubuntu, or (as others point out) Mint, Fedora or anything else. Unity has been slow as crap for me as well.
Don't forget "linux" is not a single thing. Linux only refers to the kernel; Android is as much linux as Ubuntu, but they're not what people usually refer to as linux. From a desktop perspective, the only things you'll be interested in as changing would be the graphical manager (currently most used is X11, but Wayland and Mir are maturing and going to replace it; they are somewhat faster due to getting rid of some of the cruft) and the desktop environment+compositor (putting them together because usually they're pretty linked) - here you'll find there's a large variety, but my recommandations are Cinnamon, XFCE or LXDE, particularly Cinnamon.
Again, fragmentation is a real issue, and it's annoying Canonical is taking the "doing my own thing to the point of doing it poorly" approach.
This has been your non-meme reply.
>>52918768
install higan instead.
Well it is. But not but thatt much. depend son what you have. also linux doesn't game or have the great software. so of course it's a little less heavy.windows runs fine on a frehs install without bloat shit. i see no problems.I used linux for years. not too much of a difference desu. On windows just fix you start up shit and all is well
>>52924923
>what is openMW
>what is steamOS
>what are emulators
You can literally play thousands of games on Linux. Steam may not be /g/'s recc. but it already seems like gamers don't really give a shit about how companies screw them over considering they keep buying from the same fucking people over and over again.
>>52909724
Not OP but mine does. Using a thinkpad t420 with ssd. Boots just about as fast a slinux did for me. maybe like 1 second slower or something.maybe
honestly there are things I miss about linux. if it just had better software and could game easily i'd be back at it.
>>52908817
Ok OP, see ya.
Windows 10 isn't fast, it just caches everything to do with the UI so it seems fast
But you have fewer resources available for actually doing work
Linux is a work OS, not a consumer OS, so you won't find people caching their UI for "user experience". Even bloated shit like GNOME is lightweight compared to windows.
Remember, redhat actually recommends running DEs on production servers. Would you cache a fucking right click menu on a server?
>>52924371
>ignoring what Google says
>>52925272
Would you then say that gaming is your entire life?
>Year 2016
>Not running your OS on a RAMDisk
>Not booting under 3sec
I call plebs
>>52926669
Masterbaitor runs ramdisk without OS.
>Not having a 24hs Linux server.
>>52909176
So what did you fuck and break?
>>52926737
>Using software ramdisks instead of physical ones
>>52925597
>What are the advantages of distros that require a lot of manual fucking with things through command line?
Honestly none, except that advanced Linux skills could be pretty useful if you ever got a job in IT.
>>52926825
So then, what's a fairly "normie" distro that's just about as easy to use as Ubuntu but without the shit UI and all of Ubuntu's supposed problems? Mint?
Riding on this thread; but basically I'm doing a fresh install and decided to give Linux OS a try cause why not. Win10 was also giving me too much shit so I wanna switch it for a bit and see if it's worth it.
Any recommendations on OS? Typical stuff like work + games + random shit.
I'm currently reading https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux if its still relevant.
>>52909184
That didn't happen, stop lying.
>just werks
just stop being a retard
>>52908817
nicely shilled rajesh.
>>52914594
i think you're mistaken. windows compositor is slightly snappier in the sense it has curated video drivers, the rest of the os is dogshit slow in comparison.
>>52908817
I installed debian testing with no prior experience with any linux OS 3 days ago and I'm having a great experience so far. It does run faster for me than windows 7 did. Also installing shit on the command line is way faster and easier than using .exe files. Configuring them isn't that hard either. I'm yet to start trying to make everything look pleasing to eye though, but I figured I should have the basic tools first before fiddling with their appearance. Now if anyone wanted to try linux but all they do is play games all day then that's pretty retarded, and in fact yes they should stick to windows because that's where all the compatibility with games is at.
>>52925444
If you like Ubuntu, then that is the better distro. It's all personal taste.
I hate it. The bloat, and the spying for starters. Canonical is a shitty company. It's not MS or Oracle, but it would very much love to be, and it's pretty close. I absolutely despise Unity, albeit not quiet as much as Gnome 3. It looks like shit, it's sluggish, and it strongly discourages customization. It, like Gnome 3 is designed with touch devices in mind. Too bad that most of the userbase they are being aimed at aren't using them on touch devices, but on PCs and laptops, for which they are awkward to use and hinder productivity.
Mint is better--think of it as a fixed and improved version of Ubuntu. Debian too (functionally, but I dislike the devs) but if you are new to Linux it might not be the best place to start. Mint, Manjaro, Antergos (I'll get shit for those two, but both are perfectly good beginner distros), OpenSuse, maybe even Fedora. Fedora is easy enough to use, and it's the cutting edge of Linux, however if you want to use non-free software it's not a good choice at all. My pick there would be either Manjaro Xfce or Mint Xfce.
I guess one thing you should know, that doesn't get stressed enough is that in the end, distro is irrelevant. Mostly. You can make any distro look and feel like any other. You can harden any distro to have airtight security, or you can make them as vulnerable as Windows XP. You could turn Cent into a great desktop, or run a server farm on Mint. Distros are basically just a default setup and a collection of pre-selected software. Generally they represent a way (one of many) of doing things, and they might have a specific use, or target audience in mind. Where you go after installation is up to you though. Most people however don't have any interest in radically altering their distro into a completely different one, which is why we have so many different ones to choose from in the first place.
>>52908817
prohint: real NEET's don't like linux either
>>52914367
To be perfectly fair, Daemon Tools is the only usable image mounting software on Windows. It's the only one that can handle images with multiple tracks (PS1, Sega Saturn, audio disc images, etc.)
WinCDEmu is a joke.
>>52927739
I didn't know Ubuntu had spying...I think I'll go with Mint next time, I like the bare bones look of its desktop. All I want is internet access, bittorrent, and audio/video playback. I don't do anything fancy, but Win10 gives me another tumor every time I use it.
Between the always watching NSA/Microsoft, the goddamned auto-downloading apps based on your keylogged entries, the ads, and the SHIT UI, I just can't do it. I liked Win7, I really did, but I'm fucking done.
>>52908817
Who are you quoting?
>>52928057
You
>>52928031
Mint would serve you well. Xfce is known for being a lightweight desktop, while still looking good, and allowing you to customize things.
If you want even more minimal that that though, I highly recommend Fluxbox. It's simply a window manager, and out of the box it's about as minimal (and ugly) as things get without being text-based. That's the point though. You use it to create the exact desktop you want, and it's designed to be easy to do so. Easier than in Xfce, which is pretty easy.
OpenBox is another one to consider. It's similar to Fluxbox, as both were originally forks of Blackbox. They do have their differences though. OpenBox over time has become distinct from Blackbox, and is a project unto itself now. Fluxbox has remained more true to it's roots, and is rightfully thought of as a modern continuation of BlackBox.
Personally I prefer Fluxbox, but OpenBox is great. I started with Fluxbox is why I prefer it I think. Had I tried OpenBox first, I'd probably prefer it instead. I could happily use it in place of Fluxbox if I needed to though.
cwm is another one I like. It may not be available in your distro's repositories though, as it's largely unknown to much of the Linux community. It comes from OpenBSD. It very minimal, and it's meant to be simple, and to basically stay out of your way as much as possible. It's also designed to be heavily keyboard driven, so mice are not needed as much, or even at all.
>>52927859
Linux has it's place though.
>Tons of retarded fags like these two for example
>>52922140
>>52922700
You either learn to use Linux or you go back to Windows, you have zero say on how Linux should be tailored for your needs. You didn't contribute time, effort, bug tracks or money towards Linux development. Having this alternative to Windows is a global collection of projects all aiming to create an open system for everybody. There's no "I want to talk to your supervisor, this is unacceptable" on this one, you either support it or you don't.
Protip: whining about it in 4chan won't fix any bugs or speed up the development. You are only producing background noise.
