Official Thread #050: The "Holiday Hiatus" Edition
My issues with 4chan are finally over. I think I was maybe silent banned. Couldn't really say why. Is standard shitposting ban-able these days?
Good Morning,
This thread is to consolidate graphics card and display technologies discussion to reduce unnecessary thread clutter on /g/. Let's also keep the shilling to a minimum, no-one fucking cares.
Direct any and all questions regarding Graphics Cards and Display Adapters here first, including purchase and sale questions:
Use >>>/g/gcg/
For non-related questions, link to find the stupid questions thread:
>>>/g/sqt
Support questions should be directed to >>>/wsr/, as per /g/'s sticky. Or just fucking Google it instead of shitposting.
In the news:
>AMD's new Enthisiast class Polaris GPU teased. Could cost as much as $1700. Probably just the cost of the prototype:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/50227/amds-enthusiast-polaris-gpu-teased-priced-1700/index.html
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amds-flagship-polaris-card/105748.html
http://www.overclockersclub.com/news/39842/
>"This kills the company"
>Nvidia releases is latest drivers for UNIX-like operating systems. Freetards rejoice!:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/nvidia-361-28-video-driver-released-for-linux-with-support-for-geforce-945a-gpus-500176.shtml
If you find any news, post it below! Try to get at least two sources first!
Budget crown:AMD RTG Radeon R9 380 4GB
Performance crown:Nvidia GeForce GTX 980Ti
/GCG/'s ChoiceAMD RTG Radeon R9 390
Buyer Guides:
www.logicalincrements.com
www.pcpartpicker.com
>I'll work on a pastebin for monitors. Suggestions are welcome.
Logical Increments happily accepts suggestions, comments, and criticisms.
Drivers:
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
Thankyou.
gpus arent techlogy
only desktop threads are and meme/os
>>/v/
>>52897567
>Graphics cards aren't technology
iGPU freetard plebs work fast. Thanks for posting!
>>52897553
I have a Rift on preorder (thought I might cancel if I get a Vive) so I am looking to get a card to hold me over until Polaris. I have a 290 now so I think a 390/x would be a waste. Thinking about going for the Fury series I have tried to research a bit and, from what I can tell, the Fury X is a little better than the 980Ti in some areas.... but the water cooling isn't well-received on /g/. It doesn't look like Sapphire's Fury is too far behind though.
I realize that the 980Ti is pretty much still the king of performance but I would rather stick with Radeon since I plan to upgrade again to Polaris when it is stable. What do you guys suggest?
>>52897686
Apparently dual GPU's are really good for VR setups, as the twin screen areas can really leverage the second GPU. AMD is still set to release their dual-flagship card in the next few months (Though I wouldn't be suprised if they scrap it altogether with Polaris so close).
If you get a FuryX today, its pump noise issues aren't there anymore. And in VR, you're generally wearing headphones the entire time. The only reason I'd recommend high end AMD is if you were looking for Dual GPU setup. If not, just get the 980Ti. Dual Fury's or Nano's wouldn't be a bad choice either. Though just keep in mind, A minimum 90fps is recommended by Oculus for good immersion for games. Its of my opinion that GPU's just aren't ready for VR.
Next generation Polaris and Pascal, however, should be on par. The 'just wait' meme may apply. Though your VR headset will probably arrive sooner than them.
>buy 390x a few months ago
>build new 6700k 950 pro etc build
>390x not really doing what i want performance wise
shit i need to buy just a 980ti don't i? my friend has dual 390s but that heat is a real bitch and his shit is loud.
I almost just bought a second 390x but after seeing allt he driver issues and shit he's gotten with crossfire i'm thinking 980ti is the better option.
I want a fury x2 but they keep delaying it and refuse to release and details sooooooooo fuck that
>>52897760
>Though your VR headset will probably arrive sooner than them.
Yeah, that's the only reason I am looking to do this upgrade now rather than "just waiting", haha.
>Apparently dual GPU's are really good for VR setups....
>The only reason I'd recommend high end AMD is if you were looking for Dual GPU setup.
Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about it, but I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that Crossfire/SLI support is still being worked on and that VR doesn't fully support it yet.
>Its of my opinion that GPU's just aren't ready for VR.
Yeah, I get that impression as well. I just want something that will get it running well until better tech comes along.
Thanks for taking the time to help out.
>>52897820
Obviously your options are
>wait for FuryX2
>Try to exchange your 390X for a 980Ti
If you had the money and want for better performance, why didn't you buy the 980Ti in the first place?
>>52897823
see pic
>>52897854
Couldn't afford it at the time. I had the 390x in my old i7 920 build for a while. Wanted the 980 but couldn't do the price.
>>52897872
If you're keen for dual 390X's, have you considered going the extra mile and water cooling them then?
You don't need a full system loop. You can just have the two. With a 280/240mm RAD, you could cool them quite efficiently.
Otherwise, yeah, you'll be wanting the 980Ti. If you can't return the 390X, try selling it on instead.
11th for I'm pretty happy with my 380X
>>52897928
no waterblocks for the sapphires sadly
im just gonna buy the 980ti like i should have in the first place
i7 4790 and GTX 970. Go for the Fury X/980 Ti or wait for the 2016 generation?
Gigabyte GTX 770 here, still kicking like it's 2013.
FUCK YOU AND YOUR FUTURE
i recently bought a 980ti. when i open photoshop or some fullscreen application, the screen glitches for a brief moment. parts of the image get scrambled, or there are lines all across the display. is this a driver issue or is the card dying?
it works fine afterwards, no glitches in games or benchmark.
should i rma it? if yes, should i wait until the warranty almost ran out or the card dies for good (maybe i'd get a brand new model in 2 years)?
>>52897553
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as a Graphics card, is in fact, a Graphics card plus cooler, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GPU plus cooler. A graphics card is not a useful component unto itself, but rather a part of a fully functioning GPU system made useful by the fans, processing cores and VRAM, becoming a completely useful component as defined by Linus Tech Tips
Many computer users run a modified version of the GPU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GPU plus cooler which is widely used today is often called Graphics, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GPU plus cooler system, created by computer engineers.
There really is a "Graphics card", and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the PC they use. A "Graphics card" is the main part: the component in the PC that completes graphics processing to make the machine more efficient. The "Graphics card" is an essential part of an PC, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete PC. A "Graphics card" is normally used in combination with a cooling unit: the whole system is basically a Graphics card with cooler added, or GPU/cooler. All the so-called non-reference cards are really distributions of GPU/cooler
>>52898390
>390
Witnessed
is there a way to block the nigger dick pics on 4chan
>>52898196
Wait for the next generation. Pascal and Polaris are like 6 months in the horizon. It's a waste of money to upgrade right now unless you're on some potato card that cannot run a new game you want to play and in that case a cheapo stop-gap solution like the 370/80 or something like that is more than enough.
>>52898390
Anon, your autism is showing.
>>52899097
>being this new
I'm building a mini-itx computer in a Silverstone SG13. Does anyone know of any 980s other than the reference that are less than 267mm (10.5in) in length? I want a open air style card because I've heard that they're quieter (or at least make a less annoying noise) than the reference blower style.
Best brand for a 980Ti?
>>52901058
MSI*
*best brand for pretty much anything that's not low-end really
>>52901581
>not the hybrid
Would r9 390 be good choice for the next 5 years?
>>52901627
No, but neither would 980 ti or fury be a good choice for 5 years. Still a good card and recommend it.
>>52901601
>hybrid cooling
When the power delivery is the weakest link in the chain hybrid cooling is just to catch suckers. Full block or gtfo.
>>52901581
>best brand for pretty much anything that's not low-end really
Including mobos? Cause I got a MSI H81 for 65 europesos
It's practically brand new so I haven't had any issues so far
>>52897553
I can't recommend the 390, too much issues...
>>52903680
Such as?
>implying you're not just a falseflagging nvidiot
>>52903539
>Including mobos?
Some of their AM3+ boards have a rep for blowing vrms.
>>52897823
It is my opinion as well that gpus are still quite a ways off and estimate that unless you pay a grand a year from now for the latest and greatest poor people like me will have to just get by with what they have for 2 years until a gpu comes in the 500 range
>currently have GTX660 and i5 3570k
I should probably consider upgrading if I want to keep up with vidya right?
Rise of Tomb Raider will run at 30-45 on high but I'm an autist and want more
>>52903837
Overclock cpu, get new gpu.
>>52903912
thanks for the quick reply my man
>>52903837
hold on to that card until new shit is released
>>52899518
Get a nano, nigger.
>>52903837
if you can get an exceptional deal on a current card sure but it's that weird in-between period before new releases
also get better taste in games
Still no Pascal or Arctic Island in sight
What the fuck are they having problem with going into a smaller manufacturing node?
Those fucking years old 28nm chips are even more expensive than years before.
The performance is pitiful, unless you go for a GTX980Ti for a premium price.
>>52899070
Polaris will be released before July, Pascal will be released a year after that.
>>52904489
Polaris will be overpriced premium shit.
>>52901627
Probably. Most games nowadays get developed for consoles and then badly ported to PC. An R9 390 should be enough, unless you plan to use a VR headset.
>>52904509
They'll take a page out of Nvidia's book and release it with 8 GB VRAM (4 GB HBM + 4 GB DDR5) :^)
>>52904533
They won't gain any market share back.
>>52904562
>ITT experts
>>52904573
>to gain shares back implies that AMD must be doing something better than its competition
Not gonna happen, the Fury series was an utter defeat in comparison to the GTX980 and GTX980Ti.
At best AMD always equals the performance, but at an inefficient level, meaning more power demand.
I see no reason to go for AMD, neither do 81% so.
>>52904514
Nah, it will be hard affording r9 390 alone.
>>52904478
Well, It hasn't even been a year for AMD. They released the Fury and 300 series cards starting mid last year.
Nvidia can do whatever the fuck they want. Its been about 10 months for them.
And as for the new node and 'muh prices', welcome to the duopoly.
>>52898251
Should probably email your manufacturer but I'm guessing drivers
>>52897553
>Could cost as much as $1700.
What the fuck. Is it a workstation card? Is it multi-GPU? I remember AMD trying to release the Fury X at a $1000, but Nvidia knew and reacted with the $650 980Ti.
>>52904700
i'll see if the next driver update fixes it, then i'll send a mail to msi. thanks
>>52899097
I WROTE THAT FUCKING COPY-PASTA FROM THE LINUX ONE, WE WUZ KINGZ
>>52903737
I'm not the same guy but he is right. The 390 is good on paper but IRL, a lot of problem. I returned my two Nitros and wait my Fury nano.
testing temps on the sapphire 390 while playing ark,everything is stock and the spikes in memory are me just closing tabs.
>tfw wanna fall for the furry sex meme
>want a nano too, but the cost to water cool it bumps it up to the price of the furry sex
>little wiggle room for additional power draw
Rip boku
>>52903747
yeah there was a recall on that one model but it turns out others using the same chipset also crashed and burned
>>52903539
they make okay motherboards (most of the time) but i more meant graphics cards
>>52904797
I don't see the evidence for your claim,Iv had a 390 and everything works flawlessly with the only down side anyone can pull out of a hat is power consumption
>>52904634
You just made the best argument for the death of Linux on PC. Not popular = trash
>>52904797
>two
There's you problem.
For real though, the 390 is a fantastic card, but its multi monitor power consumption is shit. Is Hawaii supported by AMDGPU? I recently moved to Linux and am using Nvidia proprietary drivers.
>>52905051
It appears that they are? The gentoo wiki mentions them https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Amdgpu.
>>52905099
Ah, I confused Fiji's shit performance with Hawaii. Hawaii is definitely supported.
>not a shill channel
>well good information
>no subs
why?
>>52905230
I'll remember you anon when I stop being a wagecuck. There was one other guy that did unbiased reviews, but shit were his videos long.
>>52905230
Because the kind of people who subscribe to youtube channels don't want information, they want entertainment.
Is this a thread for monitors too?
If so, what would be the best 1440p or 4k korean monitor to buy? I finally satiated my autism and bought a 980ti but fuck if im spending another 600+ for a display
>>52905633
>buying a 980Ti this late in the game
For what purpose? 670 here, still waiting for something that isn't fucking 28nm.
>>52905979
my fiance accidentally killed my entire rig(4790k & 390) and felt super bad so she funded my new build.
also I got it at micro center with a replacement plan so whenever pascal or polaris actually releases I can bring it in and get all $650 back. I can even meme wait for up to 2 years and get the full value.
>>52906190
>my fiance accidentally killed my entire rig(4790k & 390) and felt super bad so she funded my new build.
Tell us how, anon.
>>52906372
she was using photoshop and spilled her wine off my desk and right into a vent of my case. instant death. it felt no pain.
>>52906465
How did that murder everything? I guess the motherboard got fucked up pretty bad but wouldn't the processor and card be rescuable?
>>52906544
the 390 was drenched, that was the real casualty. spits out artifacts just using windows and thats IF it even lets windows boot at all. my motherboard was mostly unscathed, but now my 4790k spikes to 90c literally instantly and throttles. Im going to borrow a spare board from a buddy to test it but im not holding my breath.
>tfw i have 8320 and R7 250
I am struggling so hard to wait for pascal
>>52905038
There is a difference.
AMD is trash at any category.
GPUs, CPUs, or look at their shitty hardware they offer in the laptop departement.
No science center is using AMDead products.
Look at their stocks.
This piece of shit company had its glory times in the past.
There is nothing to defend this company for nowadays.
>>52906812
just buy a used 750ti or 280x or some shit.
but honestly how much are you willing to spend? unless you're waiting for the 1080 or 1080ti you're gonna have long as fuck wait for a 1060 or whatever
>>52906832
>750ti or 280x
mate those two are in entirely different leagues
>>52906881
similar cost used tho. I can find both for $100 on craigslist right now
Fury X or Nano?
>>52906832
This.
I'm using a used 750ti as a stopgap until Pascal hits. Will be picking up the Pascal x70/x80 card day one.
is the ATi Rage any good as a collectors item? can it actually run games?
i bought this PC for 30€ with Athlon 1800+ and an ATi Rage Mobility wich i really only wanted for the case but now that i know the specs im kinda impressed its the famous ATi Rage
also now i can finally try and see if my old shitty hardware that i have works on this as test bench,
remember those big IDE connectors ?
>>52906832
I'm willing to spend around 500 CAD
>>52907804
The Rage was shit even when it was new. You can play old games with it, and I'm talking Quake 2 class or less and it's going to be slow.
I have an 8MB Rage Pro + AGP card sitting in my Athlon MP machine.
>>52906820
Oh definitely when you have such fantastic, moral, trustworthy corporations like Intel and Nvidia, right? Let's defend them!
You've got to be a troll, nobody can be that severely braindead.
>>52907002
The Nano is a solid price, but the X will perform much better
Would AMD or Nvidia make there new cards unoverclockable ?
>>52908064
No? It just depends on the architecture as to how much headroom there is.
They set them at a low enough clock that all the chips can hit but high enough to perform reasonably well.
>>52907910
>500 canuck bucks
so you're looking at like, the 1070?
>>52907925
Gotcha. Well at least I can finally try my brother's nvidia FX5200. its not like i planned this on being for gaming anyway
>>52904740
You could also do a clean install of the drivers.
Based on past realeased of die shrunken gpus can anyone take a whack at the price for the new cards coming? I doubt we'll see a new architecture $300 cards for awhile.
I have two GTX 770s collecting dust and now I know that they're beyond redemption after this year with Pascal coming out and all.
How do you guys throw out old electronics? Where do I go to recycle them?
>>52908853
Someone from Gigabyte said that the 970's replacement won't be over $30 more than the 970. It'll be a slight bump in price, but apparently the 970 will go for as low as $200 when the 1070(?) comes out.
>>52908880
ebay or Craigslist,sell them for cheap to get rid of them, find them a good home and family
>>52908944
It's not a pair of puppies. Where do I throw them out? Can I just toss them or is there a place that can recycle them?
>>52906812
you want new or used ?
New : Newegg.ca probably got the best price for you.
960 gtx at 314$CAD
R9 280x at 329$CAD
970 489$CAD
Used: lurk Craiglist and Ebay till you find something appealing! lots of R9270x/280x are sold used!
I just picked up an EVGA gtx 970 SSC.
So fuckin excite, I got it for a ridiculous price, and Ive never had a "high end" GPU
Itll be replacing an r9 270x
Is also my first nvidia card in a while
>>52908215
Anything is better than the Rage. Even my Matrox G200 and G450's are better (actually, they're both waaaay better). The only reason I have the Rage in the Athlon MP machine is I've been able to get DRI working under OpenBSD on it.
You could prolly play a few games with the FX5200. I have an FX5500 and played UT 2004 and a few other games on it petty well.
>>52909057
>HE FELL FOR THE MEME
Got My Sapphire Nitro R9 380 4GB for $161.00
New at Jet! It will be in tommrow! Also got a 256gb 850 evo in on Friday!
>>52909177
I paid $100 for the "meme"
>>52909020
are they broken?
>>52909271
I think they might work. I haven't plugged them in since I tossed them for two 970s.
>>52897553
AMD / Nvidia blown the fuck out
https://01.org/igvt-g/downloads/intel-gvt-gkvmgt-demo
>>52909057
"high end"
>GPU fan starts to rattle like crazy during load
>way out of warranty
I've never actually worked on one of these personally, how fucked am I?
>>52909057
dumb redditor
>>52909361
yea bro that's exactly why in my post, I used "quotation marks"
>>52909365
What brand and fan type?
>>52909295
just sell them to some poorfag neighbor anon
>Raja also spoke briefly about the makeup of the new graphics architecture. Featuring a new geometry processor, a redesigned command processor and completely new 4th generation Graphics Core Next compute units – the main component of all modern AMD GPUs – with “a very high increase in performance”. He also spoke about the new multimedia cores and the new display engine in Polaris. Which will enable gamers to record and stream 4K gameplay at 60 FPS with no performance cost.
>He also spoke about the new multimedia cores and the new display engine in Polaris. Which will enable gamers to record and stream 4K gameplay at 60 FPS with no performance cost.
>enable gamers to record and stream 4K gameplay at 60 FPS with no performance cost.
Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-unveils-polaris-11-10-gpu/#ixzz3zojnTJHe
>>52909411
>5806 Comments
Get hype, niggas
>>52909383
I'd rather toss them. Seriously. I can sell my 970s because they're not that old or used (I think I only turned on that computer five times in the past 6 months), but no one would want two 770s which may or may not work.
>>52909379
It's an MSI Radeon HD7950 Twin Frozr
It's pretty fucking old at this point so due for replacement, but I was wanting to hold out. None of the fans are wobbling or anything, but it has to be them considering running CPU/case fans at full speed doesn't produce the sound. Sound is loud enough I can't identify which of the two it is coming from.
>>52909434
Give them away on your reddit account.
>>52909473
Google how to take apart Twin Frozr and check the state of the fan's bearings. I bet you anything that they're almost ruined at this point.
>>52909411
You can already do that with shadowplay.
>>52909559
>shadowplay
I never knew what that was, gg
I need a cheap card to last until it's worth buying a ~300 card again in a year or two. What's the best right now in the 100-200 range?
>>52909815
R9 380X with a $20 rebate
>>52909434
if they work theyll sell for 100 each easily. there are plenty of poorfags who just want to play 1080p high settings or want 144hz cs:go
>>52909815
a used/new 7950/70 or 280/x for $100-160
or this>>52909870
>>52910119
>used 7975/70
Enjoy your burned out card
>>52910084
I just tested one and it still works. Going to test the other.
Both of them are EVGA 770 ACX Classified, but they're probably garbage by now compared to a 960. I don't even know who would event want these.
>>52909870
Where exactly is this?
>>52910177
like i said, poorfags. they perform better than a 950 so for your average gaymer they're a decent card and for a 10 year old minecraft faggot theyre honestly pretty great.
>>52910200
Two weeks ago on NCIX or Newegg. Can't remember which.
>>52909559
I thought recording and streaming with no performance loss was the whole point of Shadowplay instead of using OBS, yet my friend who wanted to stream Witcher 3 had such a severe performance drop, they were no longer able to stream and play at the same time. What's up with that? It was a 900 series card so it should be fully supported.
>>52909870
>>52910216
GIGABYTE Radeon R9 380X DirectX 12 GV-R938XG1 GAMING-4GD 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 ATX Video Card
Closest thing that matches your rec.
I don't think I've ever bought a GIGABYTE gpu. Does their quality compare? Or should I pay up a bit for some other manufacturer?
>>52904726
The prototype sample models always cost 2.5-4x as much as the actual retail price will be.
My 560ti I bought from a friend for 9 dollars just died, so now I need a new card. I'm going to leave to go to China for about a year, and I can't take my PC with me so it doesn't necessarily have to be that great.
I'm not leaving for another 6 months though, so in the meantime I'd like to have something functional. Would it be worth it to spend 100 dollars and get something on the level as what I had, or should I just bite the bullet and pay more for something better?
I'm currently looking at the various cards out there, and I'm running a 600w PSU, so i'm not sure if I have the leeway to support a R9 390, so maybe something like the R9 380?
Additionally, my motherboard's chipset is only PCI express 2.0.
I haven't bought a new card since 2009, so I'm absolutely out-of-touch with modern graphics hardware.
>>52910559
you absolutely have enough wattage for a 390, a good 500 watt would be sufficient. that being said, i would recommend going a little lower on the chain if you are only going to be using it for about 6 months. a year and a half from now all the new cards will be out and be cheaper than launch.
right now get a gtx 960, 950, r9 380 or 280
they would all be stronger than that 560ti and when you leave for china you can sell your pc and get yourself a laptop or have it save for your new rig when you get back.
Has there been any news whatsoever on the next gen cards in the past week or so?
Currently using my laptop to do anything and I'm so tempted by the 980 Ti if it's true that we won't see anything decent until September.
>>52910836
Thanks for the response, man.
I'll look into your recommendations.
At first glance, the 960 and 380 seem to be about what I'm looking for in terms of price. ( Approx. 200 USD) Normally I'd prefer Nvidia, but all the 960s I'm seeing have primarily HDMI ports, and neither of my 16:10 monitors support it so I think I'm leaning towards the 380s as of right now.
I would normally consider a laptop but I currently have a Microsoft Surface Pro 2 tablet/laptop that I got from my grandparents a couple years back. I imagine if there's anything I want to play that it can't handle I can go to a PC Cafe and play it.
>>52910836
Which manufacturer would you recommend for those cards, respectively?
>>52911058
If you get the 380 or 380x go for sapphire
>>52911229
So basically, this would be the premier choice for the price range?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ3U43955
>>52911381
yep
>>52909222
how da fuck
390 or 380x?
And is a aftermarket gpu cooler a meme ?
>>52910223
Shadowplay bump
>tfw bought a 290x a year ago
>tfw excited for polaris
Although really I don't play at above 1080p and theres really nothing my 290x still can't max out to this day. 290x is literally the 8800gtx of our time
>>52911522
You will never know
>yfw I'm not him but I got mt ACX 2.0 with game and backplate for $220
>>52911861
Mine does exactly that too. I have one connected through HDMI and one through DVI.
I never bugged me though, since I only ever turn off the right monitor.
>>52911058
sapphire is usually the go to for amd similar to evga for nvidia, but if you can find an msi r9 280 or 280x get that. i've seen 3 or 4 and owned one myself and my god that card clocks well and the cooler is a beast and near silent even under load. i dont know how they did it.
>>52908173
Yea unless its 3.5 again
>>52911861
>amd
>more than one monitor
you fucked up
>>52912216
nvidiot retard
>>52912256
here's your (You)
So, I'm currently sitting on a 1GB 6950(flashed to 6970).
What would be the wisest and most wallet friendly decision to make right here? I don't need some massive powerhouse or anything, but really, it's the 1GB of VRAM that is bothering me the most.
I'd really hate to get fucked on vram again down the road.
And I'd like to stick with AMD if possible.
>>52913434
Depending on your specific needs a 4gb 380 might be the way to go. Sure 4gb is a bit overkill on the 380 but you'll never run out of vram realistically.
>>52913452
When I first started looking for a new card, I originally went to the 370, but everything does seem to point at the 380.
I was looking for at least 3GB of VRAM, but I see 4 much more often.
Is there a sizable enough difference between the 380 and the 380x where it might be worth it to get the latter, or is it mainly just for milking more money out of people?
hey /g/ im looking for a gpu in the mid range level
as of right now its between a 780 ti and a 970
the 780 ti would be [spoiler]used[/spoiler] which idk if its a bad thing or not
and the 970 would probably be brand new
i checked benchmarks and theyre about the same
price is about the same
only difference i can really tell is the 780 ti has 3gb vram and the 970 has 4gb (but actually 3.5 if i understand correctly)
anyways what do you guys think i should get
or 3rd option, just wait it out for pascal and buy a [spoiler]ps4[/spoiler] in the meantime
>>52897553
nethier i use a i5 :^)
>>52913526
oh shit theres no spoilers on this board
sorry
>>52913486
The 380x is faster, but from a raw price vs performance perspective it isn't worth it (take note that price vsp erformance always favours lower end cards).
If you just want 3gb of vram and don't care about the likes of freesync look into getting a cheap (and naturally, used) 280 or 280x. Both have 3gb of vram and are plenty fast even today.
>>52911615
Guys?
>buy 980Ti
>sub 40fos at 4k
Seriously fuck this shit, stop advertising shit if it cant even do 60fps
>>52913586
The 390 annihilates a 380x and custom cooling is only worth it for balls to the wall overclocks.
>>52913620
>using 8x msaa
/v/ detected.
>>52913642
>jaggies don't exist at higher resolutions
shit opinion detected.
>>52913642
>implying I use DSR
>>52913526
help
>>52913656
There is a differenced between using some AA and cranking it to max just because you can when it kills performance.
>Still running 7 year old CPU and RAM
>Q9650 and 8gb DDr2 RAM
>Haven't changed gpu since 2010
>HD7850 2GB
Zen, Polaris and Pascal better be worth the fucking wait.
>>52913693
>buy flagship gpu
>turn down settings
For what fucking reason then.
>>52913705
Not being retarded is one of them. Just because a game supports supersampling doesn't mean you should turn it on when you are running at 4k.
Pic semi-related, my overclocked 290x. If I turn SSAA off my framerate doubles.
Are you people really dumb enough to buy a 980ti over a Fury?
>technology
Got an i5 6400 build still GPU-less due to budget. I'm just planning to get a mid tier one, like a 960 due to its very very low power consumption. Pascal promises twice performance/watt. Should I wait? All I really want is a good GPU that doesn't eat a bunch lot of watts and costs a decent amount
>>52913704
this desu.
>tfw i have an i5 2500 and the amd hd 5750
IT FEELS BAD MAN
>>52913733
>supersampling
>not even UHD
I play with my 4K monitor and aliasing is still an issue. Turning down settings on a high end gpu is stupid.
>>52913761
the wait for pascal is around 6-8 months, 5-6 month wait for polaris.
>do i want to be gpuless for ~7 months so i can save a few pennies each month or should i just buy a 960?
the choice is yours.
>>52913777
That specific screencap was done as a stress test for temperature reasons. Still if you aboslutely refuse to turn down settings 1) you are retarded and 2) will need multiple cards.
>>52913794
Gotcha, thanks anon. Will get a 960 then
>>52913814
Which goes back to my original point where they advertise it as 4k gaming with dogshit performance. Stop being a pretentious faggot.
>>52913542
Freesync would be nice just to avoid tearing and all that, but it isn't an absolute must, I suppose.
3GB was mainly just 2 because seemed like too small of an upgrade to make.
Looking around, there's a Power Color 380 that's going for just over $160 after rebate, but not only have I not heard a terribly lot about the brand, the feedback doesn't look very good at all.
There's an MSI one that looks decent (and the same maker as my current), and also a Sapphire that is priced the same but with a small rebate I could try for; It's also clocked ever so higher stock (really not a big deal) and has a backplate (of which I'm really not sure is the point of).
Thoughts?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202166
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127913
AMD life is a good life
>>52913908
AMD lyfe part 2
>>52913926
amd lyfe part 3
>>52913998
Did you rma 2 times?
How much VRAM do modern AAA titles use at 1440p at max settings?
>>52914014
2 for me 1 for gf
Do the new r9 300 series cards have hardware encoders for gameplay recording like nvidia and shadowplay?
I'm thinking of getting a 960 for shadowplay but the 380x looks to be the better performer.
>>52897872
I use two overclocked 290X 8GB because they are some of the best price/performance at the high end and they still aren't enough for my gaming. Even with a 390X equaling or bettering the GTX 980 in quite a few new games I don't really find it all that impressive. I would wait for nvidia and amds next to come out and see if you could get at least or better performance for a single card as the 290/390 in crossfire. Because honestly even those are a waste at this time. All the GPUs on the market suck.
>>52914047
1440p, max settings is not feasible for all AAA titles, they are just not optimized enough to even handle their own settings.
>>52914047
Ive seen low 4GB used on my 8GB cards.
>>52903539
Asrock H81M-VG4 R2.0 master race reporting in. Never understood why people go for more expensive motherboards for a standard non-overclockable CPU and single GPU builds.
>inb4 asrock
>>52906812
The 280x is in such a sweet spot right now if you buy it used that it's worth getting one and then reselling it when pascal comes out.
>>52909057
Of all fucking nVidia cards to pick up after using amd for a while, you chose this one...
What games need dx11 to run? I got a Radeon 4890 for my secondary rig for free and it's a dx10 card.
will anyone be willing to help me overclock my 970 what are some good clock speeds to start I have a FTW, yeah i've tried google but apparently it just doesn't work every time i change something it doesnt change
>>52914618
Damn son. I used to have one of those in 2008. 7600gt -> 4890 -> 6870 -> 2x 6870 -> gtx 480 -> 290x -> 2x 290x. Should I 1080ti next? Or wait til whatevers after?
>>52897553
>except gameworks is shit and dx is working
>>52910559
buy the cheapest 4gb r9-380 you can find they can be had for 160$
if you have a dual core cpu then get a 2gb 960 it cant use 4gb so dont buy that version unless its the same price as the 2gb ones
>>52913434
4gb 380 its the best bargain driver for 1080p 60fps
>>52913869
>there's a Power Color 380
I've got that one, I was initially going to get another brand, possibly MSI, can't remember now, but it was out of stock. So I got stuck with Power Color.
The only issue I have is with games that don't have v-sync and render at 500fps, there's a very very quiet coil whine. I didn't notice it at first. But all is fine because whereas prior to this setting options in Catalyst for v-sync did fuck all for those games in most cases, now you've also got target frame rate control in Crimson's Radeon Settings that does seem to work. Besides, I saw a lot of people reporting coil whine with other brands as well.
Can't comment on the other ones as I don't know much about them. Don't have anything against Sapphire, my last card was Sapphire and I've got no complaints.
>>52913867
Troll here >>>/b/
Fingol here, is there any place i could buy a 980ti from a reputable brand that doesn't cost 700+ euroshekels? I could get a club3d one for 650, but club3d seems a bit shifty to me and reviews vary in opinion.
>>52916192
There is nothing wrong with Club3D, but if shekels matter to you, you should wait for Polaris/Pascal or be reasonable and buy a 390/970. 75% of the performance for 50% of the price.
>>52914047
all of it
Went from a 7970 to a 390. Was it a good idea? I'm having second thoughts because of the "You should wait for Pascal and Polaris" meme. Wasn't it better to wait for a rebrand of them so they iron out the damned things?
>>52916880
If it was a 7970 GHz (this means, a 280x) you made a sidegrade, as the 390 is a 290x. Yeah, you got improved performance but I don't think it was worth the price you paid for it.
>>52916953
Na, it was the normal 7970.
stupid question inc: is an i5 2500k (OC'd to 4,4ghz) a bottleneck for high end gpu's?
>>52910223
Shadowplay can record and Stream almost performance free at most you will get 2 or 3 FPS drop, the problem with Streaming using this type of hardware including the AMD and Intel equivalent is that they require higher bitrates to display the same quality as a stream using x264 enconding.
>>52917189
In a few games it is, but it is not worth spending $400+ on an upgrade to get 95fps instead of 85fps in a handful of games.
AMD's stocks are free falling, they are not worth a penny now.
It looks bleak. If Polaris and the Zen platform would be more promising beyond marketing slogans, it would look different with the stocks.
>>52913757
>muh HBM
Totally useless, and Fury needs more energy.
Engineering is all about efficiency.
>>52917512
Engineering is about efficiency.
Good engineering is knowing the difference between efficiency and effectiveness.
My amd drivers are shit and never spin up the fans
Is it possible to write a script that would manually spin the fans up, or does that function get locked behind the driver
>>52917691
Msi afterburner. Make your own fan profile and you're good to go.
>>52914107
All amd cards based on gcn has it. So anything 7000 series or later, which naturally includes the 300 series.
Should I get a 390 or 290x for muh gayming at max in fhd?
/g/oys, I still have a 7870 and it ran rise of the tomb raider like shit on very high. When do the new cards come out? If it's soon then I'll wait but if not I really want to upgrade.
Is the GTX 260 still fast enough in 2016?
>>52913757
I want drivers on my card
>>52919025
>parroting ancient memes
>>52918116
They're exactly the same hardware, pick whichever one is cheapest.
>>52918702
if it runs everything you need fine then yes it is
>>52918702
I guess. How's emulation working for you?
>>52917867
What sort of performance hit are we talking about compared to shadowplay?
I have a smaller monitor that only goes up to 1600x900, currently have a GTX 660 but am thinking of upgrading to a 960 or 970. Would the performance boost from 960 to 970 be worth the price at such a low resolution? Would the performance boost from 660 to 960 be worth it?
>>52922423
>Would the performance boost from 960 to 970 be worth the price at such a low resolution?
Nope
>Would the performance boost from 660 to 960 be worth it?
Is there something you want to play but currently cannot?
In any case, the 960 is beaten really bad by the R9 380 at the same price point.
>>52922524
>In any case, the 960 is beaten really bad by the R9 380 at the same price point.
Yeah, I was looking at that one, too. Just weighing my options right now with my tax refund coming in. There's not really anything I can't play right now that I want to, it's more just looking for a performance boost and future-proofing.
If I do squander my dollars on a GPU the 380's probably the one I'll go for. Thanks.
can a msi gtx750ti handle a core OC of +107mhz and memory clock of +70mhz since it's only powered through the pci-e slot and such? also i hear some weird buzzing every now and then and i think it's the gpu. any way for me to be sure?
>>52913704
>>52913764
>I know that feel
Still running Core i5 2500K, 16 GB DDR3 and OC Radeon HD7870 on my main and Core 2 Quad Q9550 8GB DDR2 and Geforce 8800 GT on my secondary.
>>52904634
>the Fury series was an utter defeat in comparison to the GTX980 and GTX980Ti.
Bollocks, the Fury trumps the 980 easily both stock and when OC'd in DX11 and is much better in compute or DX12.
The Fury-X matches the 980-ti at stock but admittedly falls short at DX11 if you get a good OC on the NVidia.
>>52922316
From personal experience it's minimal, check the benchmark image if you want more exact figures. Can't compare to shadowplay though since I've never used it.
I'm on an Nvidia GeForce GTX 650Ti and planning on upgrading.
Worth taking the budget crown on the OP or can I stay in the Nvidia family with a budget of 200-250?
>Two Open-Box 370's on sale for $110
>Consider buying them simply for the value
>Wake up next morning to find that they're gone
Hold me /gcg/, they were the ones that got away......
>>52914192
> inb4ing your own post
> assrock
FTFY
one questions friends
using pic related
i have noticed that at max settings 1080p i get drops to 50fps in games like rise of tomb raider witcher 3 which shouldn happen with that rig at 1080p
then i remembered the card has 2 8 pin slots and im using 1 8 pin and on 6 pin cord to power it. worked fine so far
could this have anything to do with occasional frame drops?
>>52897553
Fuck you. Go back to /vg/.
Also, 750 TI is still the best graphics card you can buy if you're not going to sell it.
I live in a hot asas fuck country. I'm deciding to buy the 380, should I worry about its temperatura?
I want to stick a graphics card inside this office PC since the IGP is terrible. I intend on using this system for vidya and semi-moderate 3D stuff.
What kind of concerns and considerations should I be thinking about? How bad will the CPU bottleneck be, 5 or 50 FPS difference? I ask b/c the last time I touched PC hardware was eons ago when AGP GPUs were still a thing.
My eyes are on the GTX 750 Ti but something under $120 and can play modern games would be nice.
This system has a 300W PSU but I'd like to keep the power usage under 225-250W
>>52913526
970 has more VRAM and performs better in GameWorks games.
GTX 950 is the best poorfag card.
Will 980X be enough to play gaymes on 1080 for some time? Or must I save and shell out dosh on some New Generation GPU?
Please advise.
>>52897823
>>Apparently dual GPU's are really good for VR setups....
>>The only reason I'd recommend high end AMD is if you were looking for Dual GPU setup.
>Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about it, but I read somewhere (I don't remember where) that Crossfire/SLI support is still being worked on and that VR doesn't fully support it yet.
Support for VR with SLI/xFire should improve greatly when DX12 hits the scene
>>52928164
GTX 750 Ti is still the best poorfag card.
The 950 still needs more power than the 750 Ti, hurting you in the long run, which is important for poorfags, as they stay poorfags.
>>52928173
Save and shell out the dosh.
>>52928253
But I want to play games.
When the fuck are those GPUs are coming out?
>>52928288
This year.
What card do you have now?
>>52928299
5870 HD. But I think it is giving up the ghost. I have problems on the desktop. So for now have to use pic related.
>>52928314
Alright, how about temporarily getting a 750 Ti and then selling it on CraigsList after it comes out for 60-85% of it's original cost?
I'm sure the savings you get on power would cover the loss, and the fun you get out of using it would probably be worth it.
>>52928379
I rather bite the bullet and sit tight until the fucking thing came out.
So much for having fun.
>>52928413
Alright man, your call.
>>52909057
>non 100% compatible DX12 gpu, good going tiger.
>>52924329
>that fps drop
You are suppose to gain fps with Shadowplay
>EKWB has blocks for the Fury X
Why
will AMD ever get heat/power consumption under control?
I've been thinking about where to go next (currently on 2x 7870ghz) but the heat and power draw of the 390 would basically mean I have to buy a new PSU or use one I have on the very edge of it's capacity.
also I generally want to lower my power consumption when possible. I have 3 monitors, and an HTPC/home server which is hooked up to a plasma and yet another monitor pretty much always running, so I use a lot of power as is.
>>52930230
Yeah, next AMD high end cards will be really efficient
>>52903539
high end MSI mobos are amazing, or they used to be. they had some crazy designs in past. low tier MSI mobos are trash, avoid them.
>>52898196
wait till next generation drops then (almost) double your power by SLIing a second 970 for cheap
