TOTALLY FUCKED EDITION
Continued from >>52795071
>Best pencils?
Graphgear 1000/500
>Best beginner FPs?
Pilot Metropolitan F
Lamy Safari
>Where do I buy?
East Coast + Old South - Goulet
West Coast + Midwest - Anderson
Canada - Knightswriting
Europe - You can find a store in any big city
>How do I improve my handwriting?
Look up what script you're trying to follow, and download worksheets. It works.
If you're fundamentally fucked, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAWA5qw065k [Embed]
Neat film on how writing technology developed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNWR2qnNTT4 [Embed]
What're you writing with, Anon?
Any tips for left handed writing?
I just can't get a grip.
>>52860384
What's the problem with left handed writing? I'd assume smearing, but is there anything else? For smearing, I'd use quick drying ink and some sort of downward grip. Gripping the pen by the barrel, not the grip could also help.
>>52860384
Just do this
You could also go full da Vinci for fun
Would a Graphgear 1000 set off a metal detector? I pass through one twice a day for my work and I'd hate to have to explain that my writing pencil isn't stolen
Should I buy some Parker pens from India?
>>52860602
Well, my biggest problem is that cursive writing just isn't very compatible with left-handedness, the way the letters are formed, I believe designed with the movement of the right hand in mind.
>>52860637
>Just do this
I tried but I am so used to hooking, I find it very hard to adjust.
I guess that is part of the path to change, so maybe I'll just have to bear with it.
>>52860899
>>52860918
now do it again with your dick
>>52860869
>Souveran on /g/
neat
>>52860869
Damn, what ink is that?
It certainly looks interesting.
>>52862270
Emerald of Chivor
Shit's bonkers
>>52862352
It's FABULOUS to the point that I can't imagine myself using it for anything except writing invitations to gay parties. And I don't do that often.
Bought a Lamy Safari for Christmas and i love it. It improved my writing and i don't get fatigue from writing anymore (fuck bic crystals). How do i take proper care for the pen though?
Any dip pen users? I'm thinking about just picking some random ones up on Ebay and giving it a whirl, but is there a good place to learn about the different brands and stuff? Or is there nothing important to learn?
>>52862352
I like their blue with gold too.
But I doubt it would show very well on my EF tips.
>>52862863
This, but the metal one if you can afford $9.47
>>52860869
My Pelikan m600 was stolen from my backpack about a month ago. I miss it, someday I will buy another, it was great
>>52865693
>taking a $300 pen to class
>not keeping it on your person at all times
c'mon
>>52866029
I bought it second hand very cheap, also It was B nib and I prefer medium, so not that much of a lost.
This is the definition of hipster trash.
Y'all can go kill yourselves
Should I buy a Redcircle for 8 bucks?Or something different in 10 dollar price range ?
Pen turning master race.
>>52866464
Cheap redcircle no worth. Save for retirement pencil safer preference.
>>52862632
Empty it out every week or so and flush it with warm water.
Every couple of months add a flush with some dish soap.
Check on youtube how to disassemble it and if it ever dries out on you clean out each part with a soft toothbrush.
>>52863901
By any means grab something to try - later you'll just buy different nibs to find what suits your fancy.
Just make sure you get the same sizes for the holder and the nibs.
>>52868719
How's the Prera?
Considering picking one up
>>52870218
Really nice, though it needs to be posted all the time for a comfortable writing.
>>52860869
>Meme ink
What's the best thin JAPANESE pen for a beginner? Budget around $150.
>>52860266
> Chalkboard Artist and Signwriter
not that I am complaining but haha had a chuckle ;)
>>52870631
I dont think that word means what you think it means
>>52860869
Like a girl that just graduated 4th grade.
Is Platinum Preppy a good pen for a beginner?
What about Pilot Kakuno?
>>52861121
it hurts just to think about it...
BUT what about no needle and injecting dye in bladder?
>>52874084
Can you control the flow correctly?
>>52873887
Platinum Preppy is THE beginner's pen, and I'll always recommend it because it's actually really nice to use: the EF nib is hairline thin, smooth, good flow and excellent as an eyedropper (never leaks, huge ink)
The cap will crack if treated roughly, but it's a $5 pen.
The Kakuno is outmoded by the Preppy
My writing is shit, I have calligraphy for dummies, is this enough? i know it takes practice.
what pen do i get though? at least to start off and get better
>>52866464
Nothing is better at that price range. Its still solid brass and only minuscule differences from rotring.
>>52870639
Capless Decimo.
Did we seriously need another general?
>>52874914
Who are we? This general is probably older than you.
Picked one of these bad boys up instead of a graphgear
Not disappointed
A pen that needs to be added to the list of starter FPs is the TWSBI Eco
>>52874752
A pencil is enough, but if you want to try a FP get any beginner FP
>>52864148
The finish on the metal one wears off very quickly if stored in a pocket. I wish that there was a cheap pen with a g2 cartridge but thinner than a g2.
Here's my Ahab, vac 700, and lamy 2000 in a case my mother made for me
>>52877695
P nifty, homie
Got any more pics of the Ahab? I bought a Konrad that I ended up returning because the quality of the resin was pretty poor (clear demo)
Thinking of buying two nib creapers and pulling a little mix-and-match to recreate pic related on the cheap. Does anyone know if the piston knob on the creaper comes off?
>>52860869
That looks like it would fuck up your pen.
>>52866576
Mandrel or between centers? I've been having some trouble with mandrel.
>>52860869
WHAT PEN IS THIS AND WHICH OTHER ONES LIKE THIS EXIST?
>>52866177
>not flipping that shit for a profit
Honestly, someone tell me I'm not crazy.
Noodler's inks smell like cherry yogurt right?
I swear to god, if not cherry, they smell like some kind of fruity yogurt.
Also private reserve burgundy mist is the greatest red ever created, bar none.
I just bought this for my SO for V-day.
It cost double a normal Safari, but it is cute.
>>52879695
You bought it for StackOverflow?
>>52879708
>You bought it for StackOverflow?
Significant Other
>>52879695
Sounds like a nice gift.
What are those bunny head things in the package, though?
>>52879747
They snap onto the clip.
>>52860266
>tfw left handed
can't use any of this
>>52879722
> Having a "Significant Other"
>>52879695
Buy them a moleskine while you're at it.
Whats up with all this cursive meme in this thread? We were forced to use cursive in school when i was young and i was so happy when i was able to drop that shit later and write all pretty and normal like the computer does. Most of nonautistic people can't even read the shitty cursive anymore.
>>52880035
Cursive is legit faster to write if you're decent at it.
Most people I know (who write a lot) write a sort of "mixture" of cursive and print; it isn't quite either, the letters are somewhat connected like in cursive but still look quite like print.
>>52880160
Are you young? Like, up to 30? A lot of places don't teach cursive anymore, so they just print fast enough that letters blur together. It's what I do.
>>52879949
That was the original plan actually, but I don't like the hardcover moleskines.
Plus they are ugly.
>>52880349
I've heard that Moleskines are pretty shit for fountain pens. Get Field Notes instead.
>>52880179
Me too.
I was only taught print writing in school, but once I had to start writing quickly the letters just start to connect themselves because I don't have time to lift the pen off the page.
After a while I learned 'full' cursive because it just looks nicer.
Reminder that your pen wont make you a better artist/calligrapher/typographist, so on, so forth. Don't worry too much about the gear- whatever works, works. Focus on what you can do with it and push that to the maximum possible extent. You'd be better off in /ic/ than getting advice here.
>>52880361
>Field Notes
I handled a few and wasn't impressed.
For one, they have the ugly ass "FIELD NOTES" printed on the front cover instead of being plain black or something.
And for another they are all small as shit.
>>52880444
Ah, wasn't sure what you were looking for, I figured it was the little pocket sized ones. Rhodia is my go-to, Exacompta is good too, if you want something toothier
>>52880179
Well, my country will stop teaching cursive to kids this year. So everyone I know - of whom the youngest is my little brother at 14 years old - has learned cursive up to this point.
>>52880496
24 in the US here, spent a week or two on it in 3rd/4th grade. If it's neat enough, I can struggle to read it, but I don't know it well enough to write it.
>>52880515
I'm 22 in a nordic country, I spent like 3-4 years writing nearly everything in cursive - it was forced, you weren't allowed to write in print.
And so did every kid other here up to this year; they only just now changed the syllabus.
>>52880477
>Rhodia
Looks nice, especially the leather memo covers. Though I wish they were for notebooks and not legal pad style.
Might pick one up.
>>52874356
You can stop it for a second, otherwise you can get a sponge to spill it into if you can't hold mid-stream. Afterwards just fill up again and write on. After all that shit, I'd probably do a bladder enema just to be sure.
>>52880554
>>52880515
Hue
>learned cursive in elementary
>mother writes cursive like shit
>sister writes like mother
>father writes cursive
>too slow because I'm quite meticulous about my writing
>find it faster and nicer if I write in print
>happy as can be, mother keeps telling me to write like a human being
>>52880496
>Well, my country will stop teaching cursive to kids this year.
What?
That's retarded
>>52880035
>>52880179
>>52880414
>>52880496
>>52880515
Here in Poland everybody starts learning cursive in late kindergarten and are obligated to use it throughout the whole schooling system (notes, exams, essays, reports etc.). I'm sure many, if not most of European countries have it the same, so the idea of being unable to write cursive (and the prospect of not knowing how to write at all) really baffles me.
>>52880745
Fucking this. This is why cursive is dumb. I get that it can be faster, and it looks great with some inks shading, but everyone ends up writing it their own way, and it looks different as fuck. You know what the letters look like when you print? LETTERS. Also, do computers use cursive? No. They don't. Do doctors use cursive? I'm not actually sure, I'm not a pharmacist. Plus it's an entirely separate set of letters to learn for a language you already know.
>>52880766
Well, these are the new official models for the alphabet. No more cursive for the kids.
Yeah, I think it would be better to still teach it. But I'm sure the folks at the national board of education have considered more things than I have.
>>52880812
From the thumbnail it looked like comic sans.
>tfw kids are taught how to handwrite with comic sans
>>52880812
It's probably because you have many umlauts. So you have to keep on lifting the pen.
>>52880812
International use of the letters, for one. If you learn cursive, you tend to know it when it's slightly different. If you learn print, you'll be able to read almost all prints. I write like this, personally. For me it's faster, more legible even for people seeing it for the first time (I fuck up r and v sometimes, but mostly not).
My edc.
Can I join the club?
>>52880804
I can't read cursive it's so fucking unreadable even if it's the best professional writing it.
I'm trying to get the hang of turning pens. Anyone else turn pens, mind if I pick your brain?
