Is the 750ti a decent "entry level" gaming pc card?
It's on sale on newegg for $99 after rebate, and I want to try to build a gaming PC for under 500.
Im thinking the classic i3/750ti combo. is that still viable? or should I bite the bullet and pay the extra for i5 and a better card?
I mainly want to play Fallout 4, GTA V, and the new tomb raider.
An i3/750ti MIGHT play those games at low setting @30fps. Assuming 1080p. I would recommend a 960 for true entry level. i5 would be substantially better but you will notice less gains assuming you keep shadows off and AA to a minimum.
>>52682605
Thank you for the detailed answer. I guess I will spend the extra, since I'd like to get around at least 45 fps on "high" settings 1080p.
Waiting on dat tax refund before pulling the trigger
not to be shilling or anything, but I think the 265 or 260x is the same price or cheaper and provides better performance. if you're getting a decent enough power supply it should easily power those cards.
>>52682641
lol recommending AMD, ever
I can't say much for TR or GTA V, but my laptop with a maxwell 860M (pretty much identical to the 750ti) can play FO4 at max settings with a 30fps cap.
Its potent if you turn off really taxing settings like MSAA or AO.
I would say to grab it, then save your money up for pascal or polaris when you can afford it.
>>52682561
https://youtu.be/YHhPOvlnLGM?t=128
Enjoy!
>>52682605
Please dont listen to this retard.
OP, heres your guide to GPUs
$100= R7 360
$200= R9 380
$325= R9 390
$400= R9 390x
$600+ = 980ti
Dual flagship= xfire fury x
>>52682678
Gotta consider the option of used parts too.
A 7950 or 7970 would certainly still be a solid choice at around $100-120.
>>52682678
Literally this. I own a 980ti (galax) and this is probably the best advice for GPUs
>>52682713
Not him, but I own a fury x, however though I agree with you I wouldn't buy a used 7970
>>52682715
It is, but retards assume that because Nvidia's high end is superior, everything across the entire range of prices must be. That's why it's so important to have the most powerful single card on the market, even if only a tiny fraction of people can actually afford one.
>>52682678
/thread
Someone that isn't shilling or a retard
>>52682561
Why not get a GTX 950 for cheap.
750ti is getting old.
The new Tombraider is the only game currently where it performs worse than the console.
And I don't think it will be the last.
>>52682676
But you could still turn down the graphics a notch and play it at 720/900p or turn the textures/shadows down a little.
Better get a R9 380 or a 960.
>>52682797
It's not actually cheap, 960 is almost the same price as the 950 and a bit better.
>>52682797
Because every nvidia card that isnt a flagship is destroyed by the AMD counterpart. 980ti = AMAZING. Everything else nvidia = overpriced and underperforming.
>>52682561
GTX 950 replaces it. passmark shows it as a better value for performance. Trust me, go with the 950.
>>52682828
Not really true though. In the under $200 price range amd and nvidia are almost the same with amd performing better in some games and nvidia in others.
>>52682818
>But you could still turn down the graphics a notch and play it at 720/900p or turn the textures/shadows down a little
He literally says right there in the video that even on the lowest settings the i3/750 Ti combo delivered 13-25fps due to a CPU bottleneck. Can't go below low, bro.
>>52682840
>GTX 950
OP here, just looked that up
Didnt realize it had dropped in price so much. Definitely the better option vs the 750 ti
thanks for showing me this
>>52682561
Will there be some specific games you want to run at 45+ fps? It might help to look some benchmarks for reference.
>>52682847
R9 380 outperforms a gtx 960 in 95 if not 100% of games.....I own a 980ti. You're a shill in denial. Or just retarded
>>52682868
If you buy nvidia at anything below $600 cards you're literally paying more for less and fucking yourself....
>>52682936
AMD shill detected.
>>52682972
How is he shilling when he is right? Stated the 980ti was the better flagship, which is true. Stated every nvidia card below that costs too much for what you get, which is also true.
I could get build info but o built a gaming rig with the Pentium g32 and r9 380x and 8gb ram a ssd and a hdd for under 575$ its pretty nice
>>52682561
Used 270X or 280X for a bit more, and get the Athlon 860K. If you don't get a quad core don't be surprised if some games won't even start.
In the future consider reading the sticky and utilizing the tools found there such as "logicalincrements" instead making a fucking thread for advice
TLDR if its second hand get a 950/960 but the 750 ti is still a good card
Owner of this.
>i3 4360
>750 ti ftw/acx (basically sc version)
>8g ram
I've played fallout 4 on this at medium at 60fps stable, amazing success with pcs2x emulation.
They'll achieve better fps than people claim
Having said that if I knew better I could have bought a 950 or 960 same price (second hand) and have gotten better performance.
I3 4360 is all you need in my opinion, I've never ever had the cpu at 100% except for folding.
Also don't fall for the "turbo ultra fuckoff-clocked" meme like I did
>>52682561
i dont see why you dont get a 760, there are more cuda cores and it overclocks well. two of them are the most decent of a 1080p setup as you can have.
>>52683077
and dx 12
>>52683077
>cuda meme
Even that can't help Nvidia's lack of asynchronous computing in DX12
>>52682561
>Consumer whore
>Muh Gaymes
>Asks for consumer advice
Here you piece of shit: >>>/v/325661696
Literally fuck back to where you came from, manchild.
>>52683096
That doesn't matter. Nvidia just pays off the developers to not include asynchronous computing in their games, like they did with Rise of the Tomb Raider.
>Has asynchronous computing on XBone
>Nvidia pays developer
>Developer removes asynchronous computing for PC version
The way it's meant to be played!
>>52683096
they helped a lot for a lot of the low level computing for those shit games we all play so yeah. whatever. i have 2 390s now and im swimming in the glorious 4k
>>52682678
This, I've got 2 390'x and my roommate has 2 980's and the additional vram of the 390's is a big bonus. Only real downside of the dual 390's is the heat generation/power consumption.
>>52683122
there seems to be some sand in your mangina
>>52683255
Two?
390x brother here. 4k@60hz gaming w/of MBA and SSAO ftw.
>>52683389
Tri-X 390X here, love her to bits.
Wait for the new gen that is only months away you stupid fuck. Then you will be set for like 5 years
>>52683503
>wait for a few months
>for something thatll be replaced next year
Stupidest fucking shit.
>>52683490
> 4k@60hz
i think u get stripes everywhere
>>52682658
shut the fuck up
970
>>52682868
The 960 is only £30 more, though, so it makes less sense at least here in the UK
You're better off just living with the IGP in the skylake till you have enough cash for the 950.
You're already getting better than 730 performance with the IGP enough to hold you over a bit.
>>52682561
Dude I've got a i5 4460 and gtx 950 with 8gb ram and it runs damn near anything on high to Max settings at 1080p with at least 50fps usually 60. Only thing this has trouble with is the witcher 3.
>>52682561
random 750ti owner here,
It's an okay card but don't expect any miracles. It deals with dx10/11 games better than dx9 games. i3 won't multitask as well, but you can get one with a decent clockspeed for much cheaper than an i5 with that speed. Shouldn't be a problem if you just run a game without much in the background.
http://www.gputechconf.com/
APRIL 4-7, 2016
SILICON VALLEY
Just wait and see over the next few months
>>52683041
>get the Athlon 860k
Don't. I gave it clocked at 4.4Ghz and it's still utter shit, get anything besides it
Hmm. I'd say you're better off with a used 7950 or something.
>>52685279
>athlon 860k shit
that entire socket is shit, go am3+ or stick with intel.
>>52682678
Actually good post
>>52683077
What is OP going to do with CUDA, dipshit?
I got my gpu for $110 back around black friday.
$500 build
>>52683096
Okay? And amd is still missing dx12 features on their current cards to. You have to wait til next generation to get full dx12 support. Buy right now both cards struggle with dx12 with amd still coming out behind if the game features Any tesselation or if you have a weak cpu. The division performs pretty bad on amd cards compared to nvidia ones, and it's a dx12 title. Not even shilling, nvidia does some pretty anti-consumer shit, while amd never actually works on their tech.
>muh mantle
Implemented in like 6 games.
>but its used in dx12 and Vulcan
Only a part of either and amd no longer supports Vulcan development, while nvidia actually does.
>nvidia drone!
Whatever amd shill,both companies are shit.
>>52682756
Sure, price-performance ratio, AMD is king.
But that's been the fucking selling point since the 6-series, hasn't it?
I'd gladly pay more for not having to put up with the inconvenience I've had with AMD. I had flash and mouse corruption AT LEAST once a week. Shit was annoying, yo.....
Also, most of the high end cards are loud as fuck, and run hotter than the surface of the sun. I'm OCD as fuck when it comes to noise.
>>52682561
You're better served by getting a used gpu if you don't have $200+ to spend on it alone.
On a budget I'd pick up a used 760 or 270x for around $125. They're much better and only a little more than the 750ti.
The cool thing for the 750ti is if you have a shitty prebuilt you can pop it in and have a workable gaming machine.
>>52682828
Not true. The titan x and 980 are just overpriced. Otherwise they're good cards.
>>52682561
>Fallout 4, GTA V, and the new tomb raider
Those are all Nvidia GameWorks games so you have pretty much no choice but to go Nvidia.
>>52685254
This.
I have a 760k/750ti combo and it does well. Playing blade and soul atm (cpu intensive) and so long as I only have the game, voip, and maybe 1 window open in chrome I can run it at 50+ fps at medium-high settings @720p. I've never hooked it up to a 1080p monitor, but it runs everything I've ever thrown at it.
Only turn down settings during huge battles during BnS/WoW/FF14. Think I spent $475 on the whole thing after salvaging hard drives.
>>52682605
>low setting @30fps
is this still a tech board? has shilling gone too far?
750ti can run most current games at 60fps fine 1080p low to medium, OP
>>52686368
Did you miss the part where he said overpriced? I've owned a 989, two actually. For the price, not close to worth ir
>>52682678
Best post on /g/ in probably a year
>>52682561
Yes
>>52682561
OP, if youre still here,
Here you go:
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=02G-P4-2678-RX
If you don't buy it, i guaranteed someone else will by the end of the hour.
>>52682678
Does the Fury X scale better than the Ti?
>>52682658
>unsubstantiated response
Absolutely memeful, anon.
looking to upgrade my GPU, i only have a 600 W power supply.
>>52688312
just to clarify i was thinking of getting the 970 or the asus 750ti
It's just fine for next gen games in high. You'll be fine with 1080 high
>>52688324
Well with 600w you'd be fine with a 970 especially if you have the money
>>52682561
It runs Portal 2 and Minecraft with SEUS nicely on kaxed 1080p
pascal soon
750ti sleep now
>>52686852
No. I was making fun of the "overpriced and underpowered". There's nothing underpowered about any card inthe upper price points. A gtx 980 is too pricey but it's not slow. While amd's offerings at the 500ish price point are faster than the 980 the vast majority of pc users wouldn't any difference because anything past a 390/290/970 is already limited by their monitor's refresh rate.
Buying a Titan X or 980 is a waste of money most of the time, but it won't be noticeably worse most of the time either. They're in dickwaving territory
>>52683096
>cuda is a meme
goto bed kid.
2:00pm is past your bedtime
Get a 670 for $100
>>52682678
This
Honestly if you do not have enough money to buy a 970. You should not consider Nvidia at all. Their low end options are just pure shit. And even then once you reach the 970 you could pick up an r9 390x for the same price on discount that beats it.
>>52688235
At 4k in crossfire yes. HBM stacks to in crossfire and SLI soon.
>>52685528
>amd is still missing dx12 features on their current cards to
Two features that are optional because they aren't high-impact features and the work they do can be done in other ways just as efficiently.
Asynchronous compute was the big thing that DX12 brought to the table. AMD has been saying for years that the lack of multithreaded workloads to the processor has been hurting them for years. We had evidence showing this then, and we know for a fact now that lazy devs were a major hindrance to AMD.
AMD makes MUCH less money than Nvidia. They have less money for R&D and less money for marketing... and you're here like "OMG, they're such dickheads for spending money on an open technology when nobody else would. Look at them allowing Nvidia to adopt it without charging for license fees. Fucking dicks. Wow, they're not even paying to continue development now that everyone gets to use it for free. Fuck them they're a piece of shit company."
Honestly, do you think about the words you string together?
>>52688676
The refresh rate of monitors only applies with vsync on. Thats the point of it.
>>52688324
R9 390. With 3.5 gate why would you pay more for a worse card?
>>52688916
...what? If you have a 60-75hz monitor and your graphics card is pushing out 200 frames a second, only the first 75 frames actually matter.
After that you're just asking for tearing, which means those extra frames might actually make your shit look worse. So you then turn on vsync to prevent tearing... and your card is rendering 125 frames for no reason at all.
Unless you have a 144hz monitor. Which was the point that anon was trying to make.
>>52688618
>>52688941
do i have a large enough power supply for that? its output is around 300 w iirc
>>52682621
My 750ti sc wouldn't be able to do those games at high settings very well. Lack of vram is a killer
>>52682678
He wants to play games, not dealing with shitty drivers
>>52682678
>recommending a R7 360 over a 750ti
The 750ti still outperforms it by a small amount. Fuck off, AMD shill.
>>52682641
>not shilling
>lies and shills anyway
Nice
>>52688980
Lol dude. You listen to teenagers on /g/.
A 390 has about 20w more system tdp than a 970.
>>52688969
Screen tearing hasn't been an issue since like 2006. Just a marketing ploy.
>>52689099
[citation needed]
>>52689099
>amd shill
>reccomends 980ti
>>52682561
Its a low end card, honestly you'd be better off picking a 2nd hand gtx 670 for that money, its tons more powerful
>>52683074
fuckoff-clocked cards are usually better for fuckoff-clocking, which is absolute must for cards like 950 or 960 (overclockable as fuck)
>>52683122
>>52688898
>it's okay when amd does it!
Look either amd supports freedom or it doesn't. Amd has poor Linux support, nolonger supports mantle, freesync, Vulcan or opengl. While nvidia has great Linux support, supports Vulcan, opengl and doesn't abandon its own technologies. Besides once amd jumps to its new architecture it'll drop it's support so fast for its older gens. Just like they did with the 4series.
I got a 7970 for my med-level rig.
Opinions on this card? Is Pascal really going to be that good?
>>52682561
fuck no. shit is like 3 years old already. just wait for 960 to come down in price
>>52682561
>and the new tomb raider.
you're not gonna do that with an i3 and 750ti. you have denuvo to thank for that
Get a 950 OP
>>52689815
Can anyone explain to me why this anon thinks that vsync is a marketting ploy?
>>52690189
You have no idea what you're talking about, you little cutie.
AMD spent who knows how much money creating Mantle. AMD made it open source so that others could take it over and maintain it once it was done. The ONLY REASON AMD DID THIS is so that multithreading would finally get some support AFTER OVER TEN FUCKING YEARS.
Once the API was completed, AMD let others take the work and use it in their own projects, free of charge. NOW EVERYONE GETS MULTITHREADING.
And AGAIN, we have a shithawk like you not understanding that AMD just spent money for everyone's benefit.
Do you want them to come give you a fucking blowjob, too?
>It's on sale on newegg for $99 after rebate
isn't that the price it was when it came out like a year and a half ago?
>>52688785
>>52686867
>>52685393
>>52683389
>>52682756
>>52682715
>AMD is shilling on this board so hard this week
wait to find a deal on a gtx950 at the very least if you're going to be a poorfag
>>52682561
Hd 7950 is usually on amazon for 130$
hope this helps you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nlMJ7Ysdzk
buy something used for the same price
>>52690858
I want amd to be able to actually compete with nvidia and standby what they say. I don't care if they keep throwing away their money, it's doing nothing for them, except getting closer to them being bought by Samsung. Which would be awful.
>>52691392
>doing nothing for them
>Mantle and DX12
>doing nothing for AMD
Yeah, ok, you're just fucking retarded. Bye.
>>52687948
Are you retarded?? Why the fuck do you think they are forcing driver updates in GFE (ie not making them optional, in addition to removing direct download for game day drivers)? It's exactly for this reason, ie so the gimp becomes real. Their whole business model is predicated on selling GPUs and they have almost no competition. they have every reason to make people think they need to upgrade
>>52690919
Tfw 750Ti in our country is $138 ; Gtx 950 is $178
>>52690793
Vsync isnt, saying "this monitor doesn't have screen tearing" is
