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Old thread >>52663720
first for dank memes.
what are some small and practical layouts?
My first mech was a quickfire TK because I wanted to smaller keyboard without sacrificing the numpad.
I think it's fantastic and but im thinking of using the TK in the office (they're brown siwtches)
and getting a smaller compact keyboard for home usage (blues of course)
I dont use the numpad at home at all, even when gaming, but I do have various macros assgined to the function keys
what is the smallest keyboard with function keys and arrow keys?
i do not need the numpad or the delete/insert keys
Kinesis needs to hurry up and release the Advantage2.
>>52679542
The Vortex Race/Race II and the Noppoo Choc Mini seem pretty similar to what you're looking for.
SS G2 or Meka G1?
>>52679528
Do other students in the library get pissed when you bring that thing out?
>>52679638
>Vortex Race/Race II
So hard to find.
I wish they made it with clears.
>>52679747
>Implying he ever takes it out of the bag anywhere but home
>>52679374
I'd like to address the
>LOL 60% KEYBOARDS ARE ONLY FOR FAGS WHO DON'T DO ANY WORK meme.
I'm an accountant who just so happens to use a HHKB, a Elecom trackball and a Realforce 23UB every day.
Honestly the HHKB has the best key layout of any board I've ever used. For office work it just makes so much sense, it just feels right.
And having the numpad separate means I can stow it to one side if I'm writing E-Mails etc. Also, I can put the trackball between the board and the numpad, where it is really comfortable.
So before you start slagging off 60% boards, and especially HHKB again, go and buy one before you shitpost on /g/ about how rubbish they are.
/rant
>>52679889
It's a pity elecoms are barely better than logitech. If they put a huge ball in their fingerball I'll probably buy one, but I'm not terribly happy with my thumb-ball as is.
>>52679946
I was happier with my M570 to be honest, but not by much. I would have got another if they were sold here in Australia and I hadn't already gone through two of them.
The Elecom has more functions, but the scroll wheel is inexcusably bad - it has a lot of Z-axis movement when you try to scroll. But it does have left-to-right scrolling, which I love.
How do i save these settings on a ducky?
Manual says nothing
>>52679638
>noppoo choc mini
what the fuck that is actually perfect and it's under $100 on amazon holy shiting fuck
what the fuck i hate myself for buying the QFR right now please tell me the noppoo has some deal breaking issues so i can feel better about this piece of shit quickfire
is it worth getting the ducky shine 5 if i already have a ducky shine 3? thoughts pls
>>52679994
Why do you hate your QFR so much? What exactly is so bad about that keyboard that you are trashing it? Seems like a perfectly fine keyboard
>>52680085
yeah its fine but it is the same price as noppoo choc mini and if i bothered to do a bit more research i would have gotten the noppoo instead
i find the QFR a little big and i only ever looked at the 60% keyboards without arrow keys which seem a little impractical for me
god damn it
>>52679982
I tried contacting the support for something I couldn't find before, but I believe this could help you
>>52679528
my nigga i have the same bag.
>>52680175
Its a ducky legend.
I've never seen anything related to firmware for it. I had contacted them twice, and both times i never got a response. I looked at all the side legends and nothing seems relate to it
>>52679747
>>52679873
I do and no one ever cares since I type quiet and in the back, im not a dick. But honestly the rubberdome keyboards are louder than me.
>>52680206
best bag man pretty dank. Which edition do you have? I have the Colorado one.
>>52680222
I thought I saw Ducky one,
if you don't get any help you could try asking ducky support then waiting 2 weeks
>>52680263
I thought i included it, but i didnt, my mistake
I had contacted ducky last month when i got it and then again about 1-2 weeks ago. I never got a response,spam folder included. I've asked /mkg since then in probly 50 threads and you're the first to even reply.
>>52679946
>elecoms are barely better than logitech
But they are way worse trackballs?
The newer versions are about equal to an M570 if you put the M570s blue ball in one.
>>52680259
I'm not allowed to bring my own input devices.
>>52680529
If your paying for your education you should be able to bring w/e you want.
>>52679889
>accountant
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAGAHHAHAHA
>>52679994
You're in luck, Noppoo QC has gone down the shitter and a lot of keyboards have died within 1-2 years.
I just joined the drop for the magicforce keyboard. I can't wait,
/mkg/ ;-;
>>52680909
>massdrop
Good luck my friend.
>>52680920
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/magicforce-68-key-mini-mechanical-keyboard?utm_placement=12&referer=VCAZLZ&mode=guest_open&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Automated%20Daily%20Promotional%202016-01-28&utm_term=Daily%20Promotional
This one has already been unlocked, so it should be fine.
I went out of my way to frys to try out mechanical switches.
>blue
hate them, too clacky, the actuation point and the delay for the switch reset is really grating and annoying
>black
really hard to press, it's not easy to bottom them out which is essential because it has no actuation indicator
it feels like a hard to press awful rubber dome switch
>browns
a mushy, but familiar switch feeling
it feels just like a run of the mill rubber dome switch.
what is even the point?
>reds
there is no way to not bottom these out, but they make a lot of noise and I can type on them really fast, they're great
why do people hate these again?
>>52680581
Is that a POK3R keyboard?
>>52681008
>it feels like a hard to press awful rubber dome switch
No, it doesn't. Blacks are linear, rubber domes are tactile.
>mushy
What does this even mean to you?
>why do people hate these again?
Association with video games.
>>52680909
i dropped out of the magicforce drop and got a TKL for the same price
it just seemed like a better purchase
and you don't have to wait 4 months for shipping
>>52680939
Yah I just know waiting for shipping is a bitch.
>>52681011
yes it is my friend.
>>52681069
Is it really that bad?
>>52681065
go find a full size rubber dome and press down on it
that's what browns feel like, more or less
>>52679994
Get the noppoo and keep your QFR, yo. Nothing wrong with having a secondary keyboard. You could try out a different switch type too.
>>52681079
Man, those keys looked really neat, but I just couldn't justify spending like $70 on keys to replace the keys I already have on my keyboard that work just fine.
I've got a full-size Rosewill with reds because 420 noscope gaming for life
>>52681079
octopie, you post this same fucking keyboard and home setup at least 20 times a day and it's not even that impressive
at least post your fucking legs if you're going to attention whore this hard
>>52681079
Does PBS wear as quickly as the reviews say it does? I was thinking about getting one of those.
>>52681008
>bottoming out
As long as it isnt causing fatigue/pain there is nothing wrong with bottoming out on linears.
You can check back later for all the "typists" being irate about this, and providing some radical irrelevant reasons why its wrong
I dont game at all, and i have no problem typing on reds, and it such a relief not having anything in the way of my stroke and a light key
>>52681092
Browns are a plastic slider on a spring with a tiny bump in the middle. The force is largely linear outside of that bump. A rubber dome has a more rounded force curve throughout, with a collapse after the bump and decrease in resistance until you hit the bottom.
They do not feel the same.
>>52681102
I spent $30 on the midnight set.
>>52681104
Im trying to out do the HKKB endgame. I have ordered socks to dank with the keyboard. Im not attention whoring.
>>52681135
They do though.
>>52681108
>PBS
>>52681108
Haven't notice any wear so far.
>>52681155
It's what the keycaps are made out of... Ever heard of ABS plastic?
>>52681153
Here is what a rubber dome + membrane force curve looks like.
>>52681099
is the noppoo available in MX clears?
>>52681146
Yeah, well my keyboard is a full 108-key, so I'd have had to buy the regular set, the modifiers set, the numpad set, et cetera.
>108 key
I use the numpad a lot, suck a dick
>>52681177
And here is Cherry brown.
alright boys i ordered some o-rings from banggood
how long am i gonna be waiting for the fucking shipment
and do those o-rings actually improve anything?
they cheap us fuck so it was one of those buy-and-forget type deals but bottoming out on my keyboard was actually bothering me quite a bit
>>52681187
I don't judge. What ever works for you is what you should have.
>>52681177
I do not care what the math or phsycias of it are.
They fill mushy like arubber dome.
A warm female mouth feels like a vagina, because the tissue the vagina is made of is the same of the walls of our mouth.
It isnt a vagina but it feels the same way.
>>52681183
Don't think so. Linear switches are nice though.
>>52681213
enjoy your mushy keyboard
Keyboards are not vaginas, /mkg/
>>52681213
>how long am i gonna be waiting for the fucking shipment
A month.
>and do those o-rings actually improve anything?
Maybe if you're bothered by the noise from bottoming out. I find that it wasn't worth the shorter throw and squishy feeling (assuming you're getting typical 40A-50A rings).
>bottoming out on my keyboard was actually bothering me quite a bit
Because of the noise?
Where's the IBM crowd?
Flossed Model M reporting in
>>52681264
>Because of the noise?
yeah the mechanical click of blues are perfect but when you bottom out it sounds like you dropped a piece of lego on your plastic table or something
>>52681259
>enjoy your mushy keyboard
well we'll see but i dont think it would bother me too much
[spoiler]especially since i actually enjoy using a membrane KB at work[/spoiler]
>>52681312
Does anyone here actually like clicky keyboards? Just curious, cause fucking love the clikcy-clack sounds of mechs
>>52681312
if you want less noise, get thicker keycaps that don't reverberate and echo every time you slam on them
>>52681326
I hate the noise they make and I hate the eternity it takes for the switch to reset, which really throws me off when typing.
I don't type homerow, you see.
>>52681326
*I, goddammit
>>52681343
How do you not type homerow?
>>52681328
i didnt know that
do you happen to ahve any comparison videos?
>>52681326
I don't much care for clicky switches, but I don't mind the bottoming-out clack at all.
>>52681378
I dont either my "home row" would be the following:
qwef hiop'
>>52679528
I missed out. My life ends now.
>>52681417
That's bizarre. I've never seen someone type like that before
>>52681426
Those keycaps are pretty A E S T H E T I C desu
>>52681305
I got buckling springs upon buckling springs bruh
>>52681464
thanks family
who remembers this pile?
>>52681426
Those keep caps are so dank man.
>>52681482
like those modifier colors with that brown. Pretty awesome.
>>52681447
Not him, but I can't say I use the home row either. After years of staring at the keyboard while typing, I decided to just try not looking at the keyboard one day, and I was able to still type fine. Not to say I have a particularly impressive WPM or anything, but it's pure muscle memory. My hands just sort of float around.
>>52681510
I love them. But so did the gf. so they're on her's now.
>>52681426
Okay I see this picture a lot. Is that a custom Miami set made out of jelly POM keys? Because those quasi-translucent plastics are gorgeous and no material has sounded or felt as nice as the POM caps on the Choc Mini I fixed and flipped.
>>52681510
Thanks, RGB has always been a favorite of mine.
>>52681521
you see my pictures a lot senpai? awesome.
They're from geekkeys. Just PBT cherry profile.
this set was from the same makers. didn't like it as much.
>>52681526
Damn, where'd you get those Model M's? eBay?
>>52681417
>>52681378
i literally type with my hands above the keyboard using 2 index fingers and my right thumb
i get 80wpm, but i've hit the skill ceiling using this technique
i can't really be bothered to learn homerow and unlearn 15 years of bad habits
>>52681515
Pretty much this. I tried home row and it just felt like shit in typing class high school.So i stopped following and did what came naturally
>>52681550
>2 index fingers and my right thumb
That sounds painful.
>>52681546
They were a local e-cycler find.
>>52681576
pls give/sell me one family
>>52681538
Oh, neat. Perhaps it's just an artefact of whatever fancy glass you're shooting through? They sure look translucent in that shot, like the POM keycaps Feng is supposed to be doing a group buy for that I missed out on by literally two hours. PBT has been solidly opaque in my experience, though.
>>52681566
thumb is purely for the spacebar
sometimes i'll use the pinky or ring finger to press enter, but really, it's all muscle memory at this point.
>>52681576
I want one... How much were they?
>>52681585
Sold them all a long time ago unfortunately.
There's a pretty good chance that I'll get more from them soon, though.
>>52681589
no super special glass. Canon 50mm 1.4(on an AE-1)
>>52681606
its all good man.
>>52681589
>a group buy for that I missed out on by literally two hours
I ordered a green set through his GB, but dang it's taking a while. Apparently some have shipped out, but maybe not all? Whatever, I'll get it eventually.
>PBT has been solidly opaque in my experience, though.
I think it's just softer edges and colours that contribute to the effect. My gateron ghost white set has a bit of that look (not that you'd know it with my phone camera).
>>52681606
Hnnggg... That black IBM...
Black electronics make my dick hards
I am using a HHKB and I was wondering if I can make the FN key act as a toggle rather than having to be held down to access the F keys i can press it once use f keys, press it again and use the number keys. pls help ;_;
>>52681643
>buying an HHKB before researching
bro
>>52681601
$5 each on average, sometimes more or less for especially good or bad quality ones.
It's a pretty awesome hookup desu.
>>52681637
>Apparently some have shipped out, but maybe not all?
Last I heard he was having trouble wrangling the manufacturers, who were being shady
I've been refreshing his store hoping to see them pop up, but got impatient and copped the Tai Hao Miamis from the latest massdrop. Will probably still try to land a set of white pom if they ever reach retail.
>>52681662
>he fell for the topre meme
>>52681662
i didn't know i wanted to have easier access to the f keys lol.
>>52681672
>desu
Oh fuck, totally didn't realize that /g/ still has word filters. Nice.
>>52681643
>he bought a 60% keyboard with standard keys missing
it comes with the territory, dumbass
you buy a keyboard like that only if you're a special snowflake who is already used to esosteric control schemes like vim and have no use for function, arrow or nav cluster keys.
>>52681672
>$5 for that %68
Damn.... I'm gonna go look through eBay now....
>>52681690
I've just gotten used to the filter desu
>>52681697
jesus it's not that serious. i could just not be a lazy cunt and use my pinky to hit fn and access the fn keys. i'm just saying it would be good design (not on the keyboard) to be able to "lock" fn and make it act similar to caps lock.
>>52681643
Maybe if you use AutoHotKey, but not through the keyboard's own firmware.
Actually, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't even work with AHK since the fn key doesn't send a true keycode.
>>52681721
i'll give it a try and get back to you. thanks.
>>52681721
A keyboard's Fn key is inaccessible to AHK due to sending no scancode.
>>52681756
Well, there you have it.
Guess you're stuck with holding down the Fn key.
>>52681776
guess i am. thanks for the suggestion anyway
>>52681785
I went through the same thing with my board. You could always get an aftermarket tmk controller to give you all the functionality you could ever desire.
>>52681482
Ever floss-modded one?
>>52681800
I could orrr I could use my full sized ducky shine 3 when I am doing whatever I need my fn keys for. (it's runescape don't laugh)
>>52681800
Oh yeah, that's true. Hasu sells a custom programmable controller on Geekhack.
I think it's like $50.
>>52681810
I haven't. Never felt the need to. I'd like to try it out, but it seems like a lot of effort.
![FotS Dougram 67.mkv_snapshot_08.50_[2014.09.28_00.08.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iKbI7v6.jpg "FotS Dougram 67.mkv_snapshot_08.50_[2014.09.28_00.08.54].jpg")
>>52681813
>it's runescape don't laugh
You can't tell me what to do.
>>52681818
I did my M a couple months ago. I really like it, the floss mod takes the high-pitched ping out of the actuation sound, and the key actuation force feels just a touch lighter.
>>52681813
I play runescape because of dank memes, its ok
>>52681869
That actually sounds pretty nice. Maybe I'll give it a shot.
Does anyone here actually keep multiple keyboards around with different switches? I am considering getting myself a brown switch but I am afraid that I am not going to like it and eventually will want to part ways with it. Anyone here actually experience the second hand market?
>>52681672
I never noticed how big shit can get.
Has anyone had luck molding there own autist caps from a resin?
Something I've always wanted to experiment with
![[Exiled-Destiny]_Fancy_Lala_Ep03_(13873731).mkv_snapshot_17.37_[2014.07.27_00.24.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RUEvsxS.jpg "[Exiled-Destiny]_Fancy_Lala_Ep03_(13873731).mkv_snapshot_17.37_[2014.07.27_00.24.28].jpg")
>>52681893
>There are people out there who think that the click clack skull is a good design
I can't handle it.
>>52681891
Holy fuck what is that monster?
what is a great keyboard for use at the library/lectures?
>>52681886
Yep. I like being able to rotate between different keyboards every so often.
Selling stuff on Geekhack/Reddit is pretty simple. eBay is even easier, but you lose a lot of money to fees.
>>52681936
For minimum noise, silenced topre.
>>52681932
the original Microsoft ergonomic.
>>52681936
Honestly anything quiet but why not just write notes if your worried of bothering people.
>>52681944
whats the loss rate you have experienced?
I want your opinions
>order pic related from Japan
>Love the keyboard, but the price did sting a little
>recently got an email from the seller saying they checked with shipping and there is no record of my recieving my keyboard
Do I tell them I never recieved it in an attempt to get my money back/a second keyboard?
>>52681976
get a second one, sell to me for 50 bucks.
>>52681976
Be nice.
>>52681966
because coding
the library is bliss compared to where i live and i dont want to bother people
>>52681976
>that camera
>>52681966
Depends on what board I'm selling. I usually end up making a profit off of Korean customs, cause demand is always growing for those. Topre stuff retains like 75-80% of it's value. Low-mid tier MX stuff doesn't sell well on Geekhack but on reddit/eBay it holds its value about as well as Topre.
>>52682020
cherry reds with o-rings are pretty much silent if you touch type
>>52681891
You say that like it's a bad thing. I love my MS Natural Elite and I'd use it if I wasn't being mech snob. Or if I could retrofit it to mech switches.
Mine's got the cross-style cursor layout though. I think I have one like yours somewhere.
>>52682030
bad lighting and cropped from a bigger image
>>52681893
I'm probably going to try, order a set off of aliexpress so I don't damage my only set then make shitty molds. (so like in a month)
>>52681976
Happened yo me accept they just gave me a refund.
>>52682020
Yah I use browns in my library in my little corner. Never really that loud to bother anyone but would advise against anything mx if you want no clicks.
>>52682053
Is it worth learning to make a keyboard? I Have experience already with circuits from my rc hobby.
>>52681976
what seller is this?
I want a free HHKB too.
>>52682117
I think it's pretty fun. There are a lot of cool custom boards that don't come prebuilt. If you feel confident about your soldering skills then I'd say go for it, but if not then you should probably get an old Alps or similar keyboard to practice on before taking a soldering iron to your expensive PCB.
>>52681944
I have been up and down on getting a second keyboard but I suppose your words have swayed me into committing to a second keyboard. Worst case scenario is that I end up selling it I suppose
>>52681944
why would anyone ever buy a winkey-less board?
Even if you don't want a windows logo key, it's incredibly useful because every OS has evolved to include shortcuts for the super key
>>52682176
Yah I just need more reasons to continue to solder and get better.
>>52682375
couldnt you possibly bind it to another key?
like scroll lock for example i have never use that key in my life
...actually that is very interesting
today is literally the first time i have pressed the scroll lock key in my life
what the fuck does it do?
>>52680259
>and no one ever cares since I type quiet and in the back
That's a pretty remarkable feat if you're typing on MX switches. The key chatter/rattle seems almost impossible to avoid, irregardless of the mods you have on your kb.
Just lightly sliding my hands over my mechs leads to some rattle that ends up being quite loud. Even on my quietest board, it just seems impossible to avoid. Unless you were using something like a silenced Topre with firmer switches, I have no idea how you'd accomplish this.
I've never had any issues bottoming out on my boards, I pull the keypress right when I know it's going to actuate, and I catch the keys on the return most of the time (if my goal is to type quietly), but without sacrificing a tremendous amount of typing speed, it seems like a daunting task.
Mind if I ask how you do it? I've been working on my first attempt at casting my own sliders that have a better fit in the housing, I'm not sure if it'll make much of a difference, or even if I'll be able to accomplish a successful mould, but I'd imagine it's the only way to successfully reduce the keychatter/rattle. I only have experience moulding/casting with specific art related resins, so I'm not sure how well this ABS concoction will work.
Honestly, I'm pretty doubtful that I'll yield any successful results, but it's a fun project nonetheless.
Are you using modified sliders or housings?
>>52682742
nothing do with your discussion but is there a keyboard that doesnt rattle when you slide your hands over it?
surely there isnt and if there is that shit is mine
>>52682742
comes down for me to typing quickly and efficiently. Cant be a constant state of leet hacking. I only recommend return pads as the loudest click is the return for me. But to be honest I have not even touched or modified my pok3r yet and with browns it literally sounds like one of those stupid dell keyboards everyone types to loud on so I blend in lol.
Like here I was in my programing class and most people could barely hear it besides the qt next to me which he didn't care >>52680529
>>52681618
What model ?
What keycaps ?
>>52679982
Hold Fn and F9 for one second.
Keep Fn pressed and press whichever Fn key is indicated in the manual in order to set the setting you want (e. G. Fn + Fn 4 for whatever usb acceleration repeat rate).
That's it. Your setting is now saved, wait for half a mimute or so and the board should leave settings mode and you're good. It's that simple.
>mfw waiting for my mechanical keyboard in the mail
>>52683257
if i ever become omniscient i will use my power to track every second of my shipment.
fuckers better hurry but handle it with care at the same time
I once ordered some accessories from china and it took so long i actually forgot about it for an extra month after it came in the mailbox
>>52683386
if you're omniscent, just materialize free money and teleport to china to buy your shit
>>52683257
What keyboard are you waiting for?
>>52683489
omniscient doest mean omnipotent
>>52683495
GANSS
>>52683489
>if you're omniscent, just materialize free money and teleport to china to buy your shit
ask me how I know you're american.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XSq0PvVxMs
>>52681079
that's keyboard porn. what's it? i want one
>>52683707
pok3r white and midnight key caps.
HHKB Pro 2 Black Printed + White Printed Keyset - LNIB
Will not be able to part out; only sold as a combo. $240 shipped worldwide ($185 for the keyboard, $55 for the keyset)
Condition: Only used by previous owner a few times. Like new condition, comes with box and all it's contents, as well as a spare keyset. The keyboard has the white printed keyset currently on, but will come with the original black printed keyset as well.
Manufacturing date of the keyboard is 2015/10. Purchased by previous owner 2015/12.
https://imgur.com/a/joCPi
Anyone that's using Amazon can u help a brother from a non-Amazon country out
I just ordered some stuff from Amazon.de for ghe firdt time, entered my card (not cvv number) but Im not chargrd yet. on the order I can see "Request invoice" but when I press it only 1 of the 2 items are in a list there
>>52684060
>but Im not chargrd yet
payments can get 2 or 3 days to appear on your bank account.
did it say order succesful? then you're fine.
FIRST FOR TOPRE
SECOND FOR MX BROWNS
>>52683817
Where in the world are you located?
>>52684597
it's not me, the seller is a Canadian with a proxy friend in japan.
if you are interested, he's on deskthority.
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG./nkeyrollovermasterrace/
>>52682635
It does something to the way you scroll in MS Excel.
>>52682892
>nothing do with your discussion but is there a keyboard that doesnt rattle when you slide your hands over it?
>surely there isnt and if there is that shit is mine
There are some slight landing pad/silicon mods you can do to some Topre boards. It makes the keys much more firm, but it can change the feel of the keypress dramatically. Most of these tend to be more permanent mods, too.
The basic silicon ring mod on something like the Realforce makes the keys much more firm/solid, but if not done correctly, the beginning of the keypress ends up being at it's peak resistance, and it ruins the feel of Topre boards for some. The additional mods are to use a non-permanent silicon that holds the key in place, but this is a ridiculously tedious and time-consuming mod, and again, requires being done properly or you can do irreversible damage to a board. It definitely shouldn't be done before resale of a new/mint board, and if you were to try it, you should do it on something like a novatouch or typeheaven that you don't care about (I've never used either, desu, but I'm assuming they would both work just as well as a Realforce).
Both of those mods are reversible, it's just that they take much more time to do than swapping switches on a regular MX board, and removing them can be a weekend-long task. Landing pads are a much safer alternative to the silicon mods, but the silicon mods are far superior in my experience.
I've been playing around with MX mods, as this is the biggest issue with MX boards for me. You likely will never be able to avoid having keys of any keyboard wobble around once depressed, but preventing the wobble/chatter is definitely solvable, it just takes time. For MX specifically, I've been playing with the idea of creating my own sliders, but because they require pressing two copper leaflets, it'll be more difficult to solve than the Topre mods (basically, the play is practically required in the switch).
>>52685078
topre by default is less wobbly than ANY cherry switch, at rest.
literally one of the things I liked more coming from cherry is how firm the key stay if I don't want to press them, unlike mx where I could slide my hands over it and feel like they started to depress, no matter the force required to activate.
Like they would travel 1mm down easy no matter what.
>>52685078
The landing pad mod doesn't make the keys more "firm" or change the feel beyond a <1mm loss in travel distance I cannot perceive. I don't know what you're talking about.
>>52682924
Ah man, I think I'd have been chewed out by the teacher if I would have brought a mech into my uni. I guess the Pok3r case helps, I know that it helps keep the keyboard much more silent than other plastic cases. I've been thinking about grabbing one for a GH60 mod mod I started a few months ago. I'm a bit torn between the original Pok3r case, the Tex Aluminum, or one of those chinese aluminum cases.
I've never considered using landing pads on an MX switch. I feel like most of the noise comes from within the switch itself, and the sound it creates from any empty space within your case. I'll have to try out that Pok3r case, or try a sandwiched acrylic case.
so they ran out of their Quickfire Rapids
so if anyone is interested in getting a CHEAP iso novatouch, eprice.it is reselling the one I tested for 48h for only 85€.
I didn't even cum on it.
>>52685233
no they didnt
>>52685233
not even a good keyboard dude. they're not standard layout.
which color is the lightest to press? blue? red?
>>52685409
aren't they compatible with taihao keys?
>>52683817
>HHKB is so bad it gets sold in under a month.
>>52685480
it's a proxy service.
>>52685454
if you're typing, blue is the nicest.
so how's the Ducky Zero DK2087?
I know it's discontinued but is it good?
>>52685454
cherry mx brown is the best
>>52685578
>typing on literal shit
are you indian?
>>52685409
Not true.
>>52685578
maybe if you like poop and stuff.
poop is brown
dirt is brown
black people are brown
so are indians
so, what does that say about you?
pic related, I use whites.
>>52685662
>carpet floor
european only 4chan when?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9995/das-keyboard-unveils-its-first-gaming-peripherals
DAS must be getting desperate
>>52685717
muhammad, don't be afraid. I can't shoot you with my M4 from here.
>>52685746
das makes mice?
>>52685261
>48h later
Guess the guy saying it stains easiliy was right.
>>52685785
it was me.
that picture is MINUTES after unboxing.
the case has a rubbery finish that gets stained like nothing.
see this other pic found on imgur
Is there any reason why my matrix won't work? I know it will be more complicated to wire and more complicated to program than a 'standard' 5x14 matrix but I need the additional space on my microcontroller for something else and my 8x8 matrix will give me the extra pins I need if it works.
Also, sorry for the sloppy handwriting, palm rejection was not working so I had to hover hand it.
>>52685846
?sdrawkcab ti si yhw
>>52685846
If you wire all of the circuits the correct direction and make damn sure you have written the code the right way there is no reason this wont work.
What controller are you using?
>>52685861
Because wiring it upside-down where the connectors on the switches are will be significantly easier than rightside-up.
>>52685910
A teensy 2.0.
I am also hooking up a separate number pad and thus I will need the extra 9 pins
>>52685861
You wire them on the bottom and the code is written as to reflect the real wiring.
so how do I learn how this matrix shit works
sounds boring and mildly autistic, so sign me up!
Rate my keycaps. I'm thinking of getting this with clear or brown switches
>>52685961
>>52685950
>not wanting to exit the matrix
pleb
>>52685961
>not going for space invaders
is there a such thing as a topre keyboard in an 84 key layout like the noppoo choc mini? i want f keys, arrow keys, no numpad, and no wasted space around arrow keys like most tkl keyboards have
>>52685924
>A teensy 2.0.
>I am also hooking up a separate number pad and thus I will need the extra 9 pins
If the num pad is on the same controller you can use the same rows for it so you would only need the extra 5 cols really.
>>52686021
not really.
get a leopold fc660c.
but seriously, you want an hhkb, you just don't accept it yet.
>>52686057
If I could get an HHKB without waiting a month to ship from Japan, I would have done it already.
>>52685523
I have one. They are bretty gud.
The only issue I had on mine is that there is a fucking blue led under f4 and f6 that is lit to indicate some shit like nkro or some random crap like that. You can turn the led off by pressing fn+f9, but they turn on again when cumputer restarts. I dessoldered them because it was annoying, but you can keep pressing fn+f9 for the rest of your life if you want.
Asside of that, a perfect keyboard for me. Simple, sturdy, no backlight faggotry, and the case material is really nice, IMO better than the stock filco case of my other board.
Stock keycaps are shit tho, but that was expected.
>>52686066
>waiting a month to ship from Japan
took me a week from Osaka to Italy including 24h stuck in customs.
>>52686075
because you live in Italy.
>>52685785
>>52685802
I think you mean smudged, not stained.
>mfw Italy invented a new switch
sasuga spaghettis
[Italy[1984]AT&T 6300 keyboard(KBD 302)
(yes it says made in italy on the rear)
>>52686108
>I think you mean smudged
correct.
the difference is not so subtle in my language.
>>52685950
Most (all?) microcontrollers do not have 60+ inputs so to wire up each key so that they do something unique, you have to create a matrix. When you create a matrix, instead of having 61 individual inputs, you only have to have how many rows + how many columns. In my specific example, it will require 19 inputs on a microcontroller instead of 61, 14 for the columns and 5 for the rows. Basically, any one key will activate any two pins on the microcontroller at the same time and the combination (or permutation?) is unique to every other key. The wiring gets slightly more complicated if you want to press a specific three or more keys at the same time and thus you would need to add diodes, which in my drawings would be on the blue lines. I attached a much simpler matrix of the same keyboard but in a 5x14 layout instead of 8x8. Please excuse the jaggies as I did this on a computer that had no pen or touch input and I didn't feel like cleaning it up because I didn't think I would need it.
>>52686024
Yeah, that would work. I keep getting distracted because I haven't written anything down yet and I have it in my mind that I will have to connect 9 wires from the number pad to the main board so in my mind that means 9 pins. I'll still keep the 8x8 layout of the main board and just tack on 5 extra columns or rows that way I can still use the remaining four pins for leds.
Thanks. I probably would have wired it my way initially and then struggled with the layout for a few hours before finally realizing that I could simplify it a bit more. I shall revise my table and matrix wiring diagram later this evening and I'll probably post it in the next thread.
>>52686138
I am none the wiser, but appreciate it.
>>52686074
sweet, is it compatible with taihaos?
>>52686138
>I haven't written anything down yet
Other than my wiring diagrams and measurements for the case I ordered, of course.
>tack on 5 extra columns
And realistically, I can get away with only 3 extra columns since I already have 8 rows and there are 17 buttons.
>>52686163
Good luck on your endevours. If you do decide to build a keyboard though, it is significantly more expensive than buying a pre-built as the minimum cost for a custom laser cut mounting plate, a bunch of key switches, and a set of key caps alone is just shy of $200. It gets much cheaper if you scrap an old keyboard though (which is what I did).
Oh I found something nice
http://pcbheaven.com/wikipages/How_Key_Matrices_Works/
>>52686204
>What you probably have in front of you, is a keyboard with more than 100 keys on it...
>mfw I have an hhkb in front of me
>>52686131
>correct
A kraut was looking into making an Al top case for the NT, but I think that died. Sad, this thing is a fingerprint magnet.
>>52685961
So where do you guys buy this? You can select any key and any color? Sounds cool
>>52686170
It is.
>>52686229
>tfw stenography machine rigged into a usb keyboard
![Olivetti_ANK_2462_-_Switch_Housing_Dome_Removed[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9s0WYdr.jpg "Olivetti_ANK_2462_-_Switch_Housing_Dome_Removed[1].jpg")
>>52686131
>rubberdome
>>52685961
Do this instead.
This is all very clear now.
I didn't know diodes let current travel one way only
>>52686388
>not this
you're not even a proper gaymer
int main() {
// Is programming on a 60% good?
bool response;
cin >> response;
if (response == true)
buy hhkb2;
}
Is it true that Alps > Cherry
>mfw I look at the tracker for my group buy order and it has been sent to the wrong country with a name similar to my own
>>52686618
forgot your cout
>>52686712
I should have done a cout to say I'll buy a hhkb2 or something, yeah. Would have made more sense than a nonsense statement.
The question stands.
>>52686618
how's your first week of CS, anon?
>>52686625
I like my alps (own monterreys with blue stem) better than my cherrys (own brown, have used red, blue, and I think green) but that's just personal preference. I also have not tried all of cherry's switches nor have I tried all of alp's switches or their clones (monterreys, mattias, etc). I have zero choice for keycaps when it comes to alps, the build quality isn't as consistent when it comes to alps, and nearly all of the keyboards are old and used and do not come with features that I would want.
Is the WASD v2 any good? I've always considered it a POS generic brand keyboard, but I like that it lacks branding.
I'm in the market for a simple 80%.
>>52686618
If it is a 60% keyboard with a sane layout such as pretty much anything but the happy meming keyboard 2, yes.
>>52686763
pretty much every 80% keyboard looks identical to a filco majestouch TKL unless it's gamer garbage, and even then, the most popular gamer 80% board is a rebranded filco majestouch TKL with CM STORM written all over the case
>>52686763
If you want to live in a Costar stabs world
>>52685157
>>52685157
Yah it definitely helps to haves metal or even a wood case a pretty quiet.
>>52685110
Landing pad mod on the Topre doesn't make a big difference, it's the silicon ring mod that I'm referring to. It's why I said that the landing pad mod is the safer bet.
I have heard that about both, though. It seems to be a pretty torn subject between users. Some seem to notice no difference, while others feel an immediate difference and can't stand it. If it's simply the landing pad mod (the ironed foam ones), I completely agree with you, and think that the change is imperceptible. It's when you use the silicon that you start getting into rough waters. It shortens the key travel much more significantly depending on the amount of silicon used, but the feel is outstanding compared to foam, and it's much more consistent throughout the life of the keyboard.
The reason it makes the keys more "firm" is that you're pushing the key down to the point of it's near-peak pressure. When you press down on the switch, the key doesn't feel wobbly in the slightest (unless you're holding the key down while and wiggling your finger). It gives a bit of an illusory feeling that the key is on a solid rail or track.
>>52686955
>It's when you use the silicon that you start getting into rough waters.
I assumed that was completely abandoned at this point due to the detrimental factors you described.
Should I add to cart?
>>52687210
"No"
>>52687210
oh wow, another white+gray on black TKL w/ red escape key
you're so original and creative
>>52687312
It'd be the first one I own. I'm not going for special snowflake creativity, I like the look of it.
>>52686618
Wouldn't even compile.
>>52682077
What in the world does touch typing have to do with being silent?
>>52686462
Where is WSAD
>Yurofag
>Also keyboard pleb
>Want a new keyboard
>Full layout, with a few macro keys and audio controls
>Cherry MX Brown
>Reliable, fairly hard-wearing, ideally in blue or silver/grey
Am I missing something?
http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1140102&p_id=13785&seq=1&format=2
How'd I do /mkg/?
>>52687542
WASD is for plebs, ESDF is for patricians. Easier access to more buttons.
>>52687586
>gateron
you could have gotten cherry for $20 more
>>52686057
>\ | key is black even though it should be a white key
this triggers my autism
>>52687596
Still think that highlighting WSAD looks better.
Lads I need some help.
My absolute favorite switch is buckling springs, but I want a smaller keyboard. My Unicomp takes up a significant amount of space on my desk.
What switch is closest to the click and force needed for actuation of a buckling spring? Greens? I would just get a TKL buckling spring but they're outrageously expensive, and I'd like to go smaller than TKL.
Cherry ml is best keyswitch.
>>52687685
Greens
