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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
Does upgrading the RAM on a T420 from 4 to 8 GB make a big difference?
>>52640053
Depends if you're maxing out your RAM and having to page to disk/use swap.
>>52640053
are you constantly using up all your ram?
or even running near the top
I have a x220 tablet with Windows 10 (I need it for school so please don't go off topic about me running Windows).
My question is, what do I need to install in order to customize what the button on my digitizer pen does?
Right now it right clicks and I can't find and settings to change it under pen and touch or tablet pc settings.
Also my trackpad is very jittery, and I normally don't use it but I would like to fix this problem. I can hold my finger still on the trackpad and it jerks and jumps all over the place. I tried installing lenovo ultranav drivers but it didn't change anything.
Hey /tpg/, how comfy are you?
>>52640266
>>52640134
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was asking about single- vs dual-channel RAM performance.
>>52638840
X220T, so I can't really get any bigger.
Not sure if I wanna I want the dashboard on or not.
Loving muh first thinkpad folks
what does the "thinkvantage" button do?
>>52640605
Whatever you want.
>>52640620
hrmm
>>52640008
Who /advanceddock/ here?
>>52640637
What does that dock in particular do?
Also, what would be the best option for an eGPU? 750ti?
>>52640679
Its got a PCIe slot, ultrabay slim, memory card reader and the usual port replicator features.
I'm capped to a 50W card so I haven't decided what to put in it yet.
>>52640710
I want it.
So im wanting to put a lightweight linux on my old t42 what would you guys recommend.
>>52640605
3D prints a qt GF
>>52640496
>in bed
>sleeping bag + two blankets
>browsing on my T60
>running Windows XP
>listening to midis
Stay comfy, my friends.
>>52640496
I live on a sofa
The only comfy in my life is my thinkpad
>read the buyers' guide
>they're this cheap
naturally this only applies to the US? I'm from the Philippines and I don't think I can find used ones that go for that much.
>>52641279
They're still relatively cheap outside of the US
I got a T410 with the top specs for that model in the UK for £150 two years ago, less than half the price of a new laptop with equivalent specs
Fellas
>>52641322
damn, I'm glad I found this thread. I was looking for something to use as some sort of laptop for band live performance
I'm thinking of purchasing either a T420 or a T61p to do simple work (word processing) and watch videos. I already have a desktop, but I'd like a laptop to do such things in the comfort of my bed (I have scoliosis and hate having to sit for so long). The reason I am going Thinkpad is because /tpg/ sold me on the keyboard, durability, modifiability and overall practical design.
The T61p has a nicer resolution and has cheaper listings on ebay, but it seems the screen is dimmer (I imagine I can just purchase a new CCFL).
If I do end up going for the T420, I will probably end up replacing the screen with a 1080p version.
So which should I get? Is there a different model more suited to me?
Loving my first thinkpad folks. Getting used to the keyboard and Ctrl in another spot. But so far I enjoy..I need a sticker though.
>>52641445
lad
>That feel when I got my mum to fall for the thinkpad meme
Should I get her an X200 or a T410?
>>52642796
Get a T510, she'll appreciate the much better screen.
has anyone ever replaced the internal battery on a T440S? The internal battery gets me 20 min max. Is it even worth it, or would I be better off getting a 6-cell replacement for the removable battery?
>>52642848
She doesn't want to spend more than £120, I won't be there to install an OS for her, and T510s with genuine batteries plus charger are generally around the £150-£160 mark here
>>52642143
T61p have problems with high failure rates due to shitty GPUs
>>52642998
Ah, bong prices. That's too bad. Get her a T410 then I guess, at least it's LED backlit instead of CCFL.
>>52642998
>>52642998
Forgot to include only T510's that fall into that price bracket are ones with no OS's, and usually either no battery or generic ones
Hello Thinkfriends! Still waiting for my W550s to ship, looks like it won't get here until next week >:C
In the meantime, have some fun reading I discovered: https://web.archive.org/web/20090213045829/http://wwwcssrv.almaden.ibm.com/trackpoint/files/nonoise.html
In short, have you ever noticed that your Trackpoint can drift a bit after taking your finger off it? I always had that issue and after reading this page I see why. When I use the mouse while reading a web page I keep my finger on the clit for a fairly long time, often highlighting text and so on. Once I stop using it I see a bit of drift for a few seconds, then it stops. Interesting to see exactly what makes that tick.
Should I swallow the linux pill and convert from windows?
How do I get shit like the thinkvantage button and fingerprint reader working with a linux distro?
>>52643213
Why not dual boot to start with and see how you like it?
As usual, the Arch wiki has some helpful info that can likely be generalized to other distros/machines: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T420
I don't use either feature on my Thinkpads so I can't be any more help, I'm afraid
>>52642998
In regards to the T61p and faulty Nvidia GPUs, I thought that was only a particular batch. As in if a specific laptop was manufactured at a certain time, the failure rate would be in an acceptable range.
TFW I want to purchase a thinkpad but I really can't decide on a model. I'd *like* it to be the best bang for my buck. I guess I should go with the T420. Which model has the best screen for a similar price?
>>52643570
My T420 screen is not good, I know from personal experience. It's the only thing I didn't like about the computer, because the viewing angles are shit.
>>52643570
Depends on your needs. For the same price you could get a w500 with a 1920x1200 screen. Its still powerful enough to run multiple tabs, video, etc.
>>52640008
How the fuck do I disable PXE boot on my x220? I'm getting sick of waiting for 5-10 sec for it to realize there is no server only to tell me that it failed and continue normal booting.
Tried pressing ctrl-s at the prompt before and set it to disabled. That only took away the prompt, it still tries to find a server.
Tried putting my HDD above the PCI LAN card in the boot priority, it still tries to do it's thing.
What else?
>>52643549
That's true, but the flaws with the GPU's were only discovered to be a large scale problem near the end of the production cycle
Most of the T61p's out there have the problem, only ones made toward the end of the manufacturing cycle have it solved, the ones with faulty GPU's are much more common
I want to get a T420 and replace the normal hard drive with an ssd, and then the optical drive with a 1tb hard drive. What size hard drive do I need to get that works with a docking bay? Is it a 7mm one like the one that comes with the T420? What's a good docking bay that I don't have to get from lenovo?
What is the best Thinkpad I can buy?
>>52644581
>Not reading the OP.
>>52644571
it's the same size as the stock hard drive
I used the cheapest hdd caddy on Amazon, it was like ten bucks
also
Q U A D B O Y S
R U N / T P G /
>>52644741
Well apparently most of these caddys take 2.5inch hard drives and lower so I'll probably buy a WD one of those and maybe a sandisk ssd.
Latitude E5500 and X220 checking in.
>>52644581
Yoga 14 gogogogogo
Can someone recommend me best bang for buck basic think pad I can buy for 150 dollars or less? Links to ebay ads would be awesome. I bought my brother a t420 for xmas and was wondering if that would be my best option.
>>52645232
if you can find a t420 for $150, that's your best option.
>>52640748
#!++
What the hell is the difference between the T450s and the T450s ultrabook? Really need to know asap
>>52640008
>Other business laptops are also welcome
So I snatched this up today.
$120 tecra m11
i5 2.67GHz dual core hyperthreaded
4GB DDR3 @ 1033MHz I believe
14.1" 1600x900 resolution
320GB 7200rpm hdd
DVD-RW
How good of a deal did I get?
I would have liked a 15.4" screen and a little bit of dedicated graphics but I don't game that much anymore anyway. Every laptop with a 15.4" screen under $200 was 1366x768 so I went with the higher res since I'll be up close.
>>52643213
>Thinkvantage button
There are various ways to set a keybinding, some easier than others depending on your distro. I just figured how to make it open a terminal with Openbox with my classic kbd swapped x230 (may apply to the x220 too FAIK). Just add this to the rc.xml in the keyboard section:
<!-- Keybinding for Thinkvantage button -->
<keybind key="0x9C"> # Thinkvantage
<action name="Execute">
<startupnotify>
<enabled>true</enabled>
<name>Terminal</name>
</startupnotify>
<command>x-terminal-emulator</command>
</action>
</keybind>
>fingerprint reader
Simple enough, too. For debian- or ubuntu-based, just install the frpintd package and then run fprintd-enroll.
>>52645455
Also how well does linux run on a tecra m11? It has a QM57 express chipset and according to intel that chipset supports vt-d. So does that mean I can do pci passthrough in virutal machines? Can they build a laptop with that chipset that doesn't support pci passthrough.
>>52645489
Thanks
Going to dual boot Ubuntu LTS and see how it is
I heard that on some thinkpads you can mod in a 2nd hard drive slot by removing the optical drive or something.
Is it possible to do something like this on the T450s to give me 2 SSD/HDD slots?
>>52645509
yes, there's disc drive caddies for all versions basically
>>52640053
It does, especially if you only have integrated graphics.
Integrated graphics uses your RAM as VRAM.
Using more memory in dual channel gave me ~10% graphics performance boost on my T530 with integrated graphics.
>>52640008
>Recommended models:
>X220 - 12.5"
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-refurbished-12-5-thinkpad-notebook-8-gb-memory-and-128-gb-solid-state-drive-black/1313842608.p?id=mp1313842608&skuId=1313842608
So is this a good deal then? It seems they added memory and an SSD.
>>52645617
That is the stupidest lie I've ever heard
>>52646108
Meh, it isn't bad, but not the best deal out their
Bear in mind that 4gb of ram is cheap, and X201 comes in cheaper for minimal processor loss with a DVDr by default with the ability to swap for ultrabay drive
You could easily buy an X201, upgrade the ram, stick an SSD into it, and buy an ultrabay caddy for the original HDD for the same money or less
>>52646127
Hes not wrong about it using system ram as VRAM but the performance thing is probably bs.
>>52646108
I'd honestly eBay snipe just to get one with an IPS panel.
>>52646211
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-t420s-core-i5-2-5ghz6144mb128gb-ssddvdrw14w7hp64cam1yr-wrt-black/1313477213.p?id=mp1313477213&skuId=1313477213
i think im gonna go with this one. honestly, i just need something for class this semester. this one looks way thinner and lighter but is only like ten dollars more? it's too late for me to wait for deals on ebay and then upgrade. im kind of already behind this semester and need to get work done.
is there any reason other than the display size to get a t420 over a x220?
>>52645372
The T4*0 series are usually thicker and heavier, but also more expandable in terms of batteries.
The T4*0s series are thinner and slightly lighter, with some compromises that some people may think is not worth it.
>>52646373
>>52646349
Not really, if you want a lightweight laptop, the X220 is probably your best bet
The T420 you're looking at is also the kneecapped S model, which trades savings in weight for slightly gimped performance, the X series also likely has better battery life
The only real advantage the T420s has is that it can have an ultrabay thing installed, but externals are so cheap now that isn't really much of an advantage
>>52646437
i do want something smaller. i just want to throw linux on there as something to tinker with. i need a new hobby.
>>52642143
Looks like 1080p on a T420 isn't quite doable, and the T61p is both too dim and has a potentially faulty GPU. I think I'll settle for a T520 and purchase a 1080p LCD screen to go with it.
>>52646437
The x220 is like two inches thick tho
It's like a bible. The other one is like half an inch thick
>>52642143
What is the point of its keyboard and durability if you want to just do word processing and watch videos. Thinkpads are terrible for that. They are big, loud, shit battery life, and heavy.
Just get a chromebook. There are $300 1080p IPS ones.
>>52643570
T520 1080p.
Or x220 IPS.
>>52646657
I hear Thinkpad keyboards feel great (I'm also curious about the benefits of trackpoint), and I always use headphones. I'm not too mobile so weight doesn't matter as much, andI do know that I am prone to dropping or spilling.
>>52646108
Never buy a thinkpad from anywhere but ebay or CG. They rip you off. Just like the bestbuy link you posted.
>>52646691
Yeah they do feel great. But they are not some god keyboard. If you compare it to other notebooks, yes it will feel better and you will like it better. But it is not life changing.
And if you are buying a thinkpad due to your spilling liquid habit than fine, but I feel like you should just not spill liquid on your electronics.
I have a T420, and a T440. Both great machines. But the chromebook (TCB2) is the ultimate couch surfing, youtube bed watching, netflix streaming, /g/ shitposting, porn-watching, machine.
I picked up a T420 and I noticed that when I watch any sort of video on it that the upper half of the screen gets this "chopping" effect. Is there anything I can do to fix that or is it just a hardware limitation?
>>52646831
Post a picture.
Go to an external display and test it out.
Otherwise, replace the screen.
>>52643570
>Which model
I just bought a T420 i5 with the 1600x900 screen. It's a fairly high pixel density for the size. I like it, but it certainly looks like shit compared to the Samsung LPS screen I have on my desktop.
If I were doing it over, I would probably save a couple bucks with the shitty 1366x768 (or whatever it is) lower-tier screen, then get one of those screen conversions that are being sold via ebay now. I think they run about $100 for the whole package. IIRC that would get you 1080p IPS, but I'm not sure if the T420 version has all the bugs worked out. They're definitely available for the T420s.
Also, I'll probably replace my i5 with a $100-ish i7 (2720QM, I think?).
So basically, buy the cheapest T420 and upgrade it.
Everyone who ever bought an i7 and added 4 gigs of RAM thinks it's magically worth $400 more.
What battery should i get for my T420? Chinese or an official replacement?
>>52646757
I'm not a chromebook guy, but if by TCB2 you mean Toshiba Chromebook 2, then I've gotta say that quite frankly that keyboard and trackpad look like shit.
And as I said in my original post, I'm excited by how much I can customise the hardware. Judging by looks, I don't think I can quite do that with the TCB2. The T520 I'm planning on purchasing is a $50 premium, but I think it'll be worth it.
just ordered two of these. im so used to my x200 keyboard that i'm switching my mechanical kbs for similar.
Will a t420 be able to run windows 10 smoothly or should I stick with windows 7?
>>52646987
if you really want to use it to the fullest you should get a linux distro, but i think if you must have windows, that win 8 through 10 runs lighter than windows 7.
>>52646935
>>52646757
That said though, if you can really explain why I should not want said features in the Thinkpad and why the chromebook is superior, I'll consider going for the TCB2.
>>52646977
very cool
>>52643685
I think you hit F1 or F12 to enter the BIOS. I found this really hard to discover, but I finally got that stupid thing disabled. Come to think of it, I think F12 brings up the boot menu.
The Ctrl-S or Ctrl-P menu doesn't let you change anything.
>>52643685
Oh, and if you're running Windows >= Win 8, make sure to select 'reboot' from the Start Menu to get it to do a full shutdown, otherwise you can't access the BIOS since it will just do that hybrid sleep psudo-shutdown thing.
>>52645509
Search for an UltraBay SATA adapter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo_UltraBay
Make sure to get one of the correct height.
Also, I assume you have either a mSATA or a m.2 slot (next to the memory DIMM slot on the bottom), so you can have three drives.
>>52646977
Where did you find them?
WTF is this ThinkVantage button about? I mean, marketing B.S. aside, WTF *is* it?
>>52647310
if u have to ask yule never know :)
i regret not getting an american keyboard so hard, fuck
>>52646887
The chink magic converters suffer from interference in non S-models.
>>52647310
terminal shortcut
>>52647310
porn folder shortcut
>>52647351
>>52647437
Oh, you!
>>52647428
Terminal what, terminal cancer?
>>52647246
or just disable fast startup in the power options.
>>52647409
Can't you just swap it?
>>52647458
probably, but trying to convince myself that me getting annoyed at the length of the shift key is not enough to warrant buying a new keyboard
>>52647467
They're cheap.
>>52647473
holy shit thats about 1/3 the price i expected, i may just do this pressing ctrl+shift is absolute horror at the moment
>>52647482
Yep. I'm thinking about replacing mine just because the current keyboard is a bit worn. For as little as they cost, I can't see any reason to deprive myself of the nice feel of a new keyboard and trackpad.
>>52647493
Follow-up: uh, can I just replace the touchpad "sticker"? Like, is that actually how it's constructed?
http://www.amazon.com/Nbparts%C2%AE-Touchpad-Stickers-Thinkpad-Sticker/dp/B00SE4TFI2
>>52647071
The chromebook has good speakers and a great screen. It is a media machine. It has a baytrail celeron.
Thinkpad has a shit screen, and shit speakers. It is a work machine, not a media machine. You do not watch movies on a thinkpad. It just sucks. Shit colors, shit viewing angles, shit brightness.
The main thing of thinkpad vs chromebook is the screen. And the screen is important for media pleasure, but not for business presentations. Hence the lack of lenovo's emphasis on high-quality screens.
I am expecting a thinkpad to arrive within 2 hours :3
Can you buy thinkpads new, I want a small little ultra book size thing to take notes and do some programming on which should I get?
>>52647711
If you want it just for that why wouldn't you buy a used x220? Are you afraid of germs? You can clean it.
>>52647725
>Are you afraid of germs?
Very, I don't want to have to spend time cleaning someone else's filth off a computer, I'd rather spend more and get something new.
>>52647711
Of course you can. If you're on a tight budget, you should probably look into the X260. If you're willing to spend a little more and want a bigger screen, go for the X1 Carbon 2016.
The X260 should be out on Friday.
hey /g/ is this good thinkpad? my parents gonna use this so needed touchscreen/pen and display size is less than 14.
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/yoga-series/
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/yoga-series/yoga-12/
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/yoga-series/yoga-260/
>>52648383
Opt for the 260 if you're gonna get either of those.
>>52640496
I'm sleeping on a mattress in Mein studio apartment in sydney, its not very Kampfy.
>>52640008
Is there a big performance difference between a T420 i5 and a T430 i7, the T430 is only 75 AUD more. Which should I buy /g/
>>52648685
i7 draws way more power, gets hotter, and throttles faster than an i5. Go for the i5.
I gave in to the meme and got myself a T430s, it is in pretty good condition but I don't want to catch germs from the previous owner. What do you guys use to clean/disinfect it? Is wiping it with alcohol enough?
>>52649119
Yep! Don't use achohol on the screen though
>>52646831
You may be experiencing screen tearing. If Windows, make sure you have your display drivers loaded. If Linux, change your compositor to something like Compton that will take advantage of 3d acceleration.
I'm looking at buying a Lenovo Thinkpad 11e for a lightweight productivity laptop, but I'm noticing a disturbing lack of info about the different types of 11e apparently available.
Lenovo themselves have these models: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/11e-series/11e-windows/
Both of which are Windows machines.
But on Newegg and Amazon, I'm seeing models that are Chromebooks, with different storage specs: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G3FG8076&cm_re=lenovo_thinkpad_11e-_-34-318-653-_-Product
Did they just rip out the HDD and replace it with an eMMC SSD at 16gb? Is the eMMC SSD in an mSATA port somewhere in the laptop? What's going on here?
>>52640447
>http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds027627
if not try Windows 7 one
>http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds014150
I don't use Windows 10 and my most recent tablet is an X61T so I wouldn't know if it would be in optional updates under System Update.
>>52640496
I've gotten used to sleeping on the floor with a tablet to watch jootube
>>52640605
It's like a hotkey for IBM's version of control panel.
What's that site where you can punch in the model number to look up what configuration a specific Thinkpad is?
>>52640637
>OS Warp
You muh nigga
>>52642892
Check if its under warranty first!
>>52643158
It drifts when resting the finger ever so slightly on it.
When removing finger it will drift for a second, it is always 'auto calibrating'.
But after awhile you will get used to this behavior and automatically move your finger away from the trackpoint when not using it.
>>52643640
I think its ridiculous that W500's are still being sold around $200 from time to time.
>>52645372
T450s is just a slim version of the T450, but it uses a different battery layout.
Also they are all ultrabooks now, supposedly.
Both use an ultra low voltage processor, 's' models have their CPU soldier (due to small design, X series are all soldiered)
The 'p' model has a normal voltage processor and can be upgraded.
This applies to all T440, T450, T460 units, on the T430 and prior, they had normal removable processors till haslel happened.
>>52640008
>Recommended models:
>T420 - 14", normal size
>X220 - 12.5", lightweight
So what's the performance like for these laptops? They're like 5 years old, how do they stack up to an average new laptop from the present?
>>52641279
I live in Kazakhstan and you can buy used European/Russian think pads dirt cheap, try shipping one of those if you're willing to change the keyboard.
>>52647299
store called bluelink. they're dutch like me. i think they have 2 left.
>>52650720
Due to Intel's focus on ULV processors, they're still very much on par for raw power. Battery life, thermals, and iGPU performance are where they show their age.
What's the verdict on the P-Series? Did they pull the same shit they did with T or is it a proper TP?
Also considering a Zbook 15u instead, seems solid with decent price tag
>>52650513
does no one know the difference, or did I do something wrong?
sorry if I fucked up somehow...
>>52650754
IN MY COUNTRY THERE IS PROBLEM
AND THAT PROBLEM IS THE JEW
HE TAKE EVERYBODY MONEY
AND THEN HE NEVER GIVE IT BACK
>>52650978
if you look at the manual and a few teardown vids on youtube, you can see that the eMMC is soldered on, but there's still a spot for a laptop HDD to fit...
whether they tore out the SATA equipment to make it actually useful is anyone's guess, I can't get a good enough look to see if the cables are there.
>>52650978
Give it a bit. /tpg/ threads last for days, no need to bump a question that's only been there for 45 minutes.
>>52650836
>getting the shitty thinkpad usb keyboard
Enjoy the flex
>>52651076
sorry. just that there's an excellent deal and I don't want to miss it.
I have up to $500 to spend on a new or used Thinkpad.
1600x900 screen or better with good colors and brightness
Good keyboard
Can hold a 6-cell or 9-cell battery
Has USB 3.0/2.0 ports
>>52640008
>these EPP discounts
Jesus it's 50% off for an X1 Carbon vs the 7% off they offer regularly.
Should I jump on it?
Or is there another I should consider?
The W520 I bought 4 years ago is taking minutes to boot by now and this is the last day of these sales
>>52651141
T530 with --20 keyboard swap
Do Lenovos still have a Windows rootkit in the BIOS? Is it disabled now?
what does the "p" mean after the model number mean?
>tfw you won the battery lottery
>>52651118
I think I have an answer - if soldered on eMMC doesn't require a cable (why should it?) then yes, the 11e student edition will have an "SSD cable" according to this teardown vid: https://youtu.be/cS5gPGeqzMA?t=7m30s
That means you could add an internal SSD or HDD to the thing and get the 16gb eMMC to boot; the only downside would be you'd be stuck on 4gb of RAM soldered to the board, with no upgrade slot. An interesting tradeoff...
Jumping on DPP + Clearance sale today.
Models I'll consider getting:
X1 Carbon
W550s
X250
Possibly Yoga 12 if they're good?
What would you guys suggest? This sale ends today
>>52651318
Different machines for different use cases and sensibilities. Personally I'd recommend the x250 but it depends on what features you value. Probably avoid the Yoga 12.
>>52651369
Figured I'd avoid the Yoga, just figured worth mentioning in case it was good. I'll be using it for last few years of grad school and for use at home when I'm in bed.
I'm choosing between the pretty new Dell infinity XPS 15 and the X1 Carbon for consulting dev work. Anyone who's used either of them?
>>52650694
>>>52643640 (You)
>I think its ridiculous that W500's are still being sold around $200 from time to time.
Yeah, its a bit much. They're good computers though. I got mine when a recycler sent me a w500 instead of a t500 that I paid 60 dollars for.
>>52650720
For the price they're sold at, they're typically much more powerful than laptops that could be bought new for the same amount of money, at least at the moment
Most of thinkpad line were top shelf machines when they were new, that translates into a long use-able shelf life
Can t420 run windows 10 with no problems?
>>52651825
I don't know, it runs windows 7 pretty well though
>>52651397
You can't go wrong with any of the other choices. Personally I'd want a little more screen real estate that the X1C or W550s would offer if I were not lugging it around a lot. Whatever you do, be sure to opt for the IPS or WQHD or otherwise "premium" display. Flip a coin. For me in that instance I'd opt for the X1C just because a 14" laptop hits the sweet spot for size.
>>52651825
Yes
Make sure to run one of the botnet kill exe's off of the wiki
>>52651825
nigga, my T61 with integrated graphics can run Win10
>>52652124
Ended up getting a X250 for 50% off quick ship default model, ended up costing less than $1000
Please tell me I didn't fuck up
>>52652149
>3-cell external battery
>Integrated graphics on a machine that cost fucking 1000 burgers
JUST
FUCK
MAH
SHIT
UP
>>52652149
Looks good brah, except I wouldn't have gotten a touch screen.
>>52652280
It came with the touchscreen, and it was 50% off the premade model or ~23% off customized models. It was much cheaper to just buy with the included touchscreen
>>52652256
I purchased a desktop to run most heavy programs and games, so integrated graphics do not bother me. I don't expect to put it under heavy use. Spent a bit since there was a good deal on hardware I expect to last me a while.
My perfect 600E from 1998.
I love Thinkpads.
i so far have two used thinkpads, but i'm going to leave my home country for a year and my dektop is going to stay behind.
so i thought about getting a new thinkpad
i'm not really sure which one to get, i don't want to spend too much more than 1000€, preferably stay under it.
all it really needs to do is access the internet and be capable of very lightweight gaming
anyone here could recommend a series or even a specific model?
I have to decide between
T420
>1366x768
>Battery holds charge for 3 hours
Another T420
>1600x900
>"At least one hour of battery"
Both are about the same price.
What w-series thinkpad has the best performance to cost ratio? I need a powerful laptop for rendering but I don't want to spend a whole lot when I can just build a better desktop for the same price, sans the price of a monitor...
I 3d printed an excellent thinkpad tablet stand to use for drawing at my desk.
I took the files from http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:497035/#files and scaled them to 300% and it fits perfectly and has adjustable angles.
Really loving this tablet
>>52652436
Buy the 1600 x 900 one, and buy some battery cells.
>>52652515
What model thinkpad is that?
>>52652556
x220 tablet
>>52652436
You can always just buy a new battery, the better screen is probably worth it
Any news on coreboot for the T420?
>>52651318
>Jumping on DPP + Clearance sale today.
>Models I'll consider getting:
>X1 Carbon
>W550s
>X250
>Possibly Yoga 12 if they're good?
>What would you guys suggest? This sale ends today
>>52651397
>>>52651369
>Figured I'd avoid the Yoga, just figured worth mentioning in case it was good. I'll be using it for last few years of grad school and for use at home when I'm in bed.
Hey question is thinkpad yoga really that bad? There's 2 though standard yoga and thinkpad yoga. /yoga 260(brand new one)
>>52652562
Oooh what model ?
>>52640783
I imagine you, in an 8-bit world, pixel fireplace to the left, sleeping bag to the right. A dimly lit laptop streaming anime porn, and the jaggy edge of the sleeping bag bending up and down.
>>52652586
I looked at features and decided I'd rather have a better laptop than a gimmick pseudotablet
I've checked out the buyer guide and still don't know what I should be looking for.
I am selling my gaymen computer to a girl at work for stupid cheap. 29 years old and finally have a semblance of a life. I'm over it.
What I need now:
Microsoft Word
Youtube
Netflix
Battery life doesn't matter
Maybe a bigger screen to act as a TV after a long day
My budget is around 200 or less.
The only game I would consider playing is Hearthstone on it
Thank you /g/ents
>>52652589
That is the model mane, if you're asking about specs
i5 2520m, 8gb ram, 320gb hdd, non gorilla glass screen.
it's pretty quick but could stand to use a ssd.
>>52652642
Woops kek, yeah I am surprised you are running all that. I just ordered that i5 model with 4gb ram. Do you have any big problem with it on windows 10?
>>52652635
T520, maybe T510 if you can't find a T520 with a good screen in your price range. Smaller Thinkpads have vastly inferior screens to what the 15" models offer.
>>52652673
The 2 seperate monitors aren't running off the thinkpad, they're hooked up to my desktop I built.
Only problem I've had with Win 10 is lack of documentation for drivers and what not, but I got it all sorted.
One problem I've had though is I can't get the accelerometer to control screen rotation, but it's not a big problem because there is a dedicated button on the screen for that. I did get it to work for a little bit by installing Thinkvantage Active Protection which supposedly enables the accelerometer to stop your HDD from spinning if you were to drop the laptop, but it stopped working and also made the HDD make an annoying noise every time I moved the laptop so I just uninstalled it and have been using the button.
>>52652746
Cool. Stylus works? I heard it has problems at the edges
How well does the W520 hold up these days as a workstation? Should I just swallow the pill and buy a W550/540 instead?
>>52652149
You did fine. It'll serve your purposes and last a good long while.
>>52652538
>>52652567
How much are we talking about?
>>52652796
Seem's fine as long as you keep it calibrated but I don't have anything to compare it to other than my Note 4. Surprisingly the note 4 stylus works on the thinkpad and the thinkpad pen works on the note 4.
>>52652798
W520 rapes the w550 when it comes to cpu since the w550 uses ULV cpus. i say buy the w520 for like ~$250 or save up for the p70
>>52647031
This, I got a thinkpad because I wanted a laptop that I could use linux on at school where shit was guaranteed to be supported (old sager laptop had shit battery life and loads of problems with wireless cards)
Got Xubuntu on this bitch and shits fucking great. Have a windows 10 desktop for games, but only windows on the laptop is a VM.
>>52652798
W530 was apparently quite a good GPU upgrade, I'd go for that if possible. You can at least swap in the old keyboard on that generation.
I'm a beginning programmer and would like a long lasting laptop that has some good distro compatibility and is cheap which think pad would you recommend?
I'm in a c++ class right now but I mainly code in python
Anyone had any luck finding a good ICC profile for the t420 1600x900 panel?
The screen may be shit, but if I can tone down the sheer blue color from the backlight then I can manage until those chinese modders work out the bugs on their IPS panel converter chip.
>>52652916
40 bucks. The better screen is about 120
>>52652919
Oh baby, I'm getting pretty hyped for my x220T to come in the mail. Can't wait to use it for college
>>52653036
I just don't want to spend so much.
I was going to get a T400 at first but the budget keeps getting higher.
>>52647234
The problem isn't entering the BIOS, I already know how to do that. Either F12 > setup, or just F1.
Where in the BIOS is the option to disable? What is it called?
>mfw I have a x230 with i7
>mfw I'm ordering BGA version of quad core+HT i7-3612qe by now
>mfw I'm gonna give it with a laptop to my friend to remove the old dual core i7 and place this qc i7 instead
>mfw 10 minutes ago I ordered PE4L v2.1 eGPU bridge with 750Ti and 300W power supply for my x230
>>52640008
Does anyone have experience with the ultrabay battery for the t420s? I have mine running on Linux and the battery is complete shit, thinking of buying the ultrabay, or just picking up an x220 off ebay
>>52652996
t420, buy used or even broken off ebay along with replacement parts.
Even if nothing's broken get a new keyboard for it so it feels new.
I got a 420 used from a coworker, managed to get it for 100 bucks, replaced the keyboard, touchpad buttons, got a 9 cell battery. Then threw an ssd in and got a ultrabay (CD drive) adapter for my old 500 gig laptop disk drive.
Excluding the ssd and laptop drive all this only cost be 220 burger dollars
>>52653059
You can get a good official 9cell for 60 bucks.
>>52652676
If you or anyone is interested in helping me shop for these I can shoot you 10 or 15 bucks on Paypal.
I have a lot of shit going on with school and work. Dumped the girl I was living with and just submitted my thirty day notice and other shit going on.
>>52653075
This shits cheaper.
Works well.
>>52653235
did you take that photo?
oh fuck mane, gonna break out the 5870
>>52653235
Is there one that uses the express card slot? I've seen it around but not sure where to get it. I need my wireless so those don't work.
>>52653263
I got mine from banggood.com but they are out of stock.
>>52652985
wait I can just rip off the shitty chicklet keyboard a replace it with one from the 520 and it'll just fit?
>>52652937
Didn't the P70 get shit on for having bad price-performance?
P50 seems halfway decent but $1300 for a Quadro m1000m and a crap keyboard seems really off putting
>>52653184
>T420
>150:1 contrast ratio
>1 5 0 : 1
>Objectively the worst screen in Thinkpad history regardless of resolution
>>52653295
Yes, but not without some compromises.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads
>>52653256
Don't use AMD GPUs as eGPUs. You'll loose 50% of performance at start + more.
>>52653235
PE4L 2.1 cost me $25.
>>52653235
>gayming with eGPU on the internal screen
Enjoy your lags.
>>52653302
Don't have to tell me, I own the fucking thing. Still great.
>>52653198
I guess I'll have to replace any of those batteries sooner or later, so the screen is a better value.
How many hours can I expect from a brand new 9cell?
>>52653362
It's shit, famalam.
I don't know why you cucks keep shilling the T420 when the T520 is a better option in just about every aspect.
>b-b-b-but muh T420 is smaller and lighter and I'm a turbomanlet
Not enough to be significant in any way.
>>52653323
Oh, thats pretty cheap.
I'm just suggesting the EXP GDC Beast because its extremely stable and I have had a great experience with it.
>>52653354
You don't lose much performance.
>>52653354
Explain
>>52653476
You're loosing a lot of bandwidth by doing that.
I can't explain this because my PE4L didn't even arrive yet, but benchmarks clearly shows you shouldn't do that if you got the external screen.
>>52653476
You have to use Optimus tech and it copies the buffer to the Intel output so there is a slight performance penalty and it can cause tearing.
>>52653411
But you can replace the screen with an 900p screen and it will be almost as good as a 1080p one.
Plus an inch or two size is huge when talking about laptops.
How did you use a egpu? What do you need?
would the exp gdc beast work on something as old as an X201?
>j5ic05ww.exe
ayy
Why can't Lenovo name their driver executables something sensible?
>>52641445
Can you do that with a T420?
Just got my first thinkpad but I don't wanna break it thinking i could twist it around lol
>>52653583
some. grip it and rip it anon.
>>52653583
it's a tablet so it's made to do that.
>>52641279
Magpadala ka sa mga kakilala mo. Bilhan kita nandito ako sa Dubai. :)
>>52651208
Are the chiclet keyboards good?
>>52653656
The mechanism is fine or even arguably better than the older ones. The layout is shit.
>>52653688
How would I swap out the keyboard on a T530 like >>52651208 said?
Suggest me a 15" with number pad model please
>>52653722
Thank you >>52651208 and >>52653722.
>>52653075
Seems unlikely it'll be able to cool effectively at loads that would make the qc worth it.
For e-dick benchmarks it's probably great though.
>>52653528
The 900p screen is still complete shit on T420, though.
Sure, the resolution is there, but you're still dealing with a contrast ratio that's been measured to 162:1. T420's screen is complete fucking shit regardless of which one you get, unless you go out of your way to get a custom screen in there.
The difference between a T520's factory 900p screen and T420's factory 900p screen is ridiculous, and there's an even bigger difference if you look at a T520 with the factory 1080p screen which is nearly on the same level as an IPS panel.
T420's screen is just a steaming pile of shit.
>>52653733
just use an external numpad
you can even get a lenovo one
>pic related
>>52653791
How are the T530's screens compared to the T520's?
>>52653830
This. You can always disconnect the external NumPad when you need more space.
>>52653746
Glad to be of help, friend.
There really should be a 15" model in the OP. The better cooling and beautiful screens are well worth the increased weight over a 14" model.
>>52653075
>>52653768
>tfw it's really happening
http://thinkpads.kr/xe/REVIEW01/234782
SAME FUCKING TDP
DOESN'T GO HIGHER THAN 85 C DG
CHECK EM
>>52653733
No thanks !! I need a thinkpad with a number pad keyboard.
>>52653945
W701
>find ad for a T42 used
>looks decent enough and seems like its working
>suddenly this picture
how the fuck do you manage to do that to a computer?
>>52653840
Don't know, I've never used or looked at a T530.
But it seems that it shares panels with the W530, much like the T520 shares panels with W520, so I'd expect it to be about the same or better since the W series is meant for people that need a decent screen.
>>52653955
>He doesn't use his thinkpad as a skateboard
Shaking my head to be honest family
>>52652586
They're not bad, better than most consumer grade laptops but they're neither as good value for money nor as well built as a second hand thinkpad
>>52653895
Neat. I stand corrected.
>>52653955
kids or bored teens
>>52653955
I dropped a laptop off of the back of a Man truck once
Looked worse than that
>>52653955
at least it is cheap right?
>>52653955
Perfect candidate for reskinning (big ass sticker, xsauc did an instructional video) or finishing the job by peeling off the rest of the rubbery plastic and polishing the magnesium lid.
Just lol at the seller and lowball them though.
>>52653955
>autism
>>52654037
$20 plus shipping
>>52654057
or you can just replace the lid?
>>52653882
>>52653963
Do the T530's have a problem with overheating? I'll get either T420 or T520 if they do.
>>52654121
Of course, I was just going for low- or no-cost solutions.
>>52654313
That's nowhere close to overheating. The components are good out to ~100C.
>>52654446
Those are surface temperatures retard
Nevermind, the T420 or T520 do not have USB 3.0. Is the T530 worth buying?
>>52654446
That's what I found in the review. But they used a stress test application to reach those temperatures.
>>52654519
?
>>52654602
>CPU temperature climbed to over 100C
Jesus Christ how horrifying. My T520 maxes out at 75C under full load.
>>52654724
I would get a T520 but it doesn't have USB 3.0.
That feel when you just bought a mid-specced, (to be replaced) TN-panel, T450S, used six months by some businessfag, for only $1000 even though the new series is supposedly released tomorrow.
For the record, I haven't seen a single ad for used T450S aside from this one, in this country. Plenty of Gen 3 X1 Carbons for like $700 though. Don't really want one of those though because I want double SSDs, extended battery life, and deeper key travel. Thinking about selling that T450S ASAP though, and getting a new X260 instead, maybe. Should I? It doesn't have dat dere deep travel, but otherwise it's superior to my machine.
>>52654811
W520 does.
>>52654602
You can just disable Turbo Boost and you'll never have to worry about reaching those temperatures.
What's the best GPU to put in the Advanced Dock? I'm looking at a GT 730, but if there's a better option I'm all for it.
