Parts manufacturers you fucking hate thread.
Pic fucking related. Fuck broadcom
>>52622662
Asus has shit quality control, fuck Asus
The bigger issue is locked BIOS's so you can't upgrade your internal wifi.
>>52622662
yeah broadcom kinda sucks, fucking shit drivers
>>52623284
Thank big gov and fcc
>>52623174
this
never buying asus again
goytel
unusable without microcode updates and built in blobs with no options for removal is the future!
>>52622662
Fuck OCZ
>>52623790
I'll hope on this train. They're absolute garbage
Lenovo
>>52622662
Broadcom makes the only good Hackintosh wifi adapter so...
>>52623174
>>52623790
Their routers seem fine
>>52624043
what the actual fuck
>>52624073
mein negro
>>52622662
INTEL JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. I bought this for on the go use and it's a torrential waste of money. I could maybe use it for spreadsheets, but after I'm done working it has basically no value for entertainment whatsoever.
I hope their stock doesn't recover
>>52624377
What does Intel have to do with a shitty laptop? You think it would have been better with AMD?
>Fuck MSI
>>52623174
No pls.
I went with an AC68U instead of a Ubiquiti UAP setup.
>>52623174
Is it as bad as Sapphire's? Their's is fucking abysmal
>>52622662
>>52623284
>>52623313
>>52623979
>>52624073
>purchase lenovo y50
>install gentoo
>wireless doesn't work
>install broadcom-sta, nonfree firmware/driver
>only way it works
>update kernel to 4.1
>wireless breaks
>firmware/driver incompatible
>buy new wireless card
>BIOS lock
>buy new wireless card
>Intel 7260 branded by Lenovo
>works
>install aircrack-ng
>no injection support
>buy new wireless card
>BIOS lock
why even live
>>52624493
IME this type of issue is common across all laptops. laptops are just shit.
>>52624392
They used Intel HD Integrated Graphics 4400, and the Intel Core i7-4510U was pretty much a piece of shit if you're running anything above XP, let alone Windows 8.1
>>52624493
>using Linux on modern locked down hardware
Just stick to older enterprise models if you want things to actually work. It's only going to get harder to use Linux on modern locked down consumer shit
>>52624599
It mostly works though. As of right now the only things that don't work is packet injection and writing battery charge thresholds since it's in the BIOS. Optimus was the most annoying to set up but it works. I dual-boot with Windows 8.1/Classic Shell for gayms so I can't complain too much.
>>52624641
rather use GNU/Linux on older hardware where I can have a free bios and good hardware choices/support. If I need it for anything in the real world, chances are it's on a remote/local VM anyway.
>>52624516
hmm pretty much just like surface pro 3, dell xps 13, toshiba portege z30, and Acer Aspire S7-392-9404 ?
Would you blame Intel if Lenovo put an Atom in their laptop? Or better yet a Galileo or a Pentium 4? It's really the fault of the laptop maker.
>>52623174
Aside from Gigabyte, Asus is the only motherboards I've really ever used. 95% of all my builds have had an Asus board. The current one however (Sabretooth) has turned me very sour on them. It's not a fucking horrible board, but it's not the Asus I've been a fanboy of at all.
i hate to jump on the "Fuck Asus" bandwagon, but i hit the lottery on getting a defective z97m pro and it still being defective after the RMA. so yeah, fuck Asus
>>52624698
I'm not very tech savvy, but thanks for redirecting my hatred towards Lenovo where it's rightfully deserved
>>52624751
>having brand loyalty
Fucking hell anon, please stop - For your own sake.
>>52622662
I hate BCM
I regularly short their stock, never buy long because fuck broadcom
>>52624800
>>52624751
Yeah but what's the alternative? Gigabyte I guess? EVGA?
>>52625004
ASRock, MSi, Gigashite, EWWGA
Take your pick, research specific boards before you buy them from any vendor.
>>52624800
Always buy the "evo" variant of a board, and never buy the base model chipset.
This gets you better binned components and better heatsinks.
>>52624861
You're welcome. Honestly I'm pretty disillusioned with laptops in general. Treat it as a disposable and pay accordingly.
>>52625068
I'd go Asus before MSI any day personally. MSI support is pure shit and there's nothing special about their product. I forgot about ASRock though, they seem good.
>>52625069
Honestly, anything that isn't an Asus gaymer board is guaranteed to be at least a solid-enough mobo, if only because they don't use garbage like the Killer NIC, hacky USB 3.0 drivers that change the polling rate as unstably as possible, and shit like GAMING-GRADE CAPS AND MOSFETS, which is almost always a codename for shit quality
I used an EVO Phenom II board for 5 years, and I've been on this Z97-A for about a year with no issues. This adage is probably true for ANY mobo manufacturer, since gamer boards tend to look really cheap compared to a quality not-gamer board
>huawei
>htc
>>52623174
> buy asus r7 260x
>gets to the high 80s while gaming
Fucking bullshit.
>>52624470
sapphire is literally the best vendor for amd cards.
>>52624516
That's not a terrible processor, but you know what you fucking bought, it's an Ultra-low-voltage SKU, they're designed for battery life above everything else.
Time to readjust your expectations, anon.
Lucky Avago purchased Broadcom then OP
>>52625068
supermicro a best
>>52622662
Wifi chipset rankings:
Qualcomm-Atheros > Intel > * > Broadcuck
>>52627995
>sucking GPU heat
gg dumbass
>>52628040
at most it's a 10c difference, but never above 70c at load
it'd be worse if it was a puller fan
FUCKING BROADCOM NEEDS TO DIE
hp
they make arguably the worst laptops
>>52622662
fuck this tailandshit wirlesscard
>>52628040
my thoughts exactly
>not switching the fan to the top in a pull configuration.
>>52624043
>tfw I unironically own those
I mean, they work. At least.
>>52628921
lol aircrack
>>52622662
>Broadcom
Don't you mean Avago
But seriously, I work in firmware on switches n' routers n' the like, and the culture of shit support and closed secrets leaks all the way into their documentation, SDKs, and field engineers. Truly try to avoid projects involving broadcom parts.
>>52628982
there will never be a fully working crystal hd driver
>>52628958
yep at first...
bought one on amazon
life time : 1 week
>>52624423
>not running 8 watercooled fury nanos
>>52624043
This can't be real...
Cross your finger and hope Windows has drivers for Realtek LAN chipset.
>>52624043
ocz psu is actually really good
I am going to jump on the broadcom hate train. I just had to uninstall the broadcom driver on my lenovo e11 thinkpad. With the broadcom driver the wifi would turn just lose connection randomly, ever 4 to 6 seconds. Uninstall them, wifi is stable.... fuck broadcom, I want their driver department to DIAF.
Ffffuck HP. I swear two in every three laptops I fix is HP and they're all the same shit too. Why do people buy this crap.
>>52630505
They're cheap
Then they break within a year and theyre barely too expensive to get a new one out right, so they put them on repair
I dont trust Acer for shit, but none of their shit comes to repair ever because theyre so cheap they can just get a new one
While I hate the super-proprietary attitude of Broadcom, when their Wi-Fi hardware is actually functional it tends to work better than most anything else. I've got multiple Wi-Fi cards from Intel, Atheros, Realtek, and Broadcom and when tested the Broadcom cards end up providing the best and most consistent connectivity as well as throughput, sometimes almost twice what the other cards are pulling from the same access point.
Just my experience with them, but yes they're a bitch to make use of sometimes, especially the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth combo cards which don't have a single driver set: you have to load Wi-Fi drivers as well as Broadcom's proprietary Bluetooth stack to get shit working right and the drivers are never distributed together so you have to spend more effort tracking both sets down.
Fucking bitch of a thing, really.
>>52622662
Fuck Broadcom? Fuck Realtek with their non-existent Linux support.
>>52629287
i have a OCZ psu...fucking thing been on 3 computers since 2008.
>>52623174
Depends on what components
Asus Graphic Card: Avoid it at any cost
Asus Motherboard: Ok, better than MSI
Asus Notebook: Actually quite good
>>52627036
Agreed.
This far in the thread and nobody mentioned Allwinner or MediaTek?
Cheap-ass Chinese chipsets with horrifying errata to drive a bit-banging driver-writing kernel geek insane; an absolutely ignorant attitude to working drivers, let alone running on mainline kernels or the GPL.
Broadcom are bad, but they've never been this bad. And Allwinner aren't any better after joining the Linux Foundation, they're just paying to try to not get sued by busybox again. As far as they're concerned, everyone who doesn't speak Chinese can go fuck themselves.
Fuck those guys, and fuck their shitty hardware.
>>52622662
And yet their ADSL chips are God tier
>>52623174
>back inna day
>building new pc
>a7n8x
>can't handle full ram speed AND full ram capacity
>dies, rma
>dies again about a month later
>no more warranty! GIBS!
and that's the story of how a guy who builds pcs, htpcs, and servers for himself and friends and family hasnt bought or recommended asus in over 10 fucking years.
