this is happening
>>52617132
nobody will actually give a shit
>>52617147
samsung gave enough of a shit to edit their privacy policy
>that feel when old sony trinitron TV
The totalitarian future we are headed towards will be much worse than anything orwell could have imagined.
>using smart TVs
There's your problem. Shut doesn't happen on HTPC + regular tv.
>watching TV
just imagine someone could figure out how to connect and watch/listen through these smart tvs just like the unsecured ip cams
>voice commands on your TV
>>52617171
this, he writes you couldn't be sure if the thought police was listening. You don't have to worry about that nowadays, they are always listening thanks to computerization.
>>52617171
Not really. Orwell just didn't imagine that computers could take over the monitoring roles. Orwell's vision was a NKVD type thing where it'd be people and not algorithms deciding if you've been good or not.
The NSA is like santa but without presents
Sometimes I wonder if this is done by spies from the EFF baiting us to give EFF more donations.
>mfw everyone thought we would be under a right wing totalitarian government
>mfw it's far worse... left wing
>>52617227
Even more, firmware on those devices is usually locked down unsecure garbage.
My parents have an LG LCD with led backlight (not those smartTV ones but still).
I torrent movies for them and put them on a USB flash drive so they can plug it in and watch their movie without shitty commercials.
But this model has problem with DTS audio which doesn't fucking play.
I wanted to do an update but discovered that either the vendor or the seller articifially changed the firmware version 16 iterations forward larger than it should come with, so the upgrade firmware won't trigger an update and they won't have to deal with devices with zozzled firmware
i just allow my lg smart tv to access my media server, and block it from hitting any other part of my network and the internet
anyone still using a big-ass CRT television? Ever since my competitive halo days, I refuse to use anything else/
>>52617306
>USB flash drive
Why bothering using this method when cheap tablets exist as cheap media centers
hurr durr theyre gonna hear muh fappin to hatsoopie meepo vocaloids
yare yare daze
*tick tocks casio wrist watch*
>>52617262
Damn, I already donated hundreds last year..... Pretty much for a Uni student....
>>52617385
top kek mate
>>52617343
>nutin 2 hide nutin 2 fear
>not wanting to stop terrorists
Why does your house not have microphones and cameras everywhere? Are you a terrorist?
:^)
>>52617412
the only thing i have to fear is browsing 4chan
im a straight, white, christian male that doesn't look at pornography and especially doesn't torrent/illegally download media
>>52617227
Stop giving me ideas anon
>>52617468
>>52617468
>>52617499
>>52617502
are you one of those degenerate swedish fags that posts their legs in desktop threads?
>>52617294
Under the traditional left-right paradigm all totalitarian governments are left wing you retard. Yes, the left includes Nazis (SOCIALISTS).
>>52617259
>The NSA is like santa but without presents
I wonder what the effect would be if they did
>you have been a good boy so here is some tax relief
>>52617580
I'm aware that the Nazis are left wing but the left-right scale is flawed.
Nazis were technically a mix of both.
>>52617132
This is my least favourite meme of all
>>52617580
>Being this ignorant of history
>tfw the ratio of dumb to smart-tv's on stores get smaller and smaller
>>52617132
First the spying gets worse than 1984
Next laws start catching up
>>52617467
Why does your house have curtains? are you a muslim?
>2016
>Have a TV
Nah.
>>52617294
>you are now aware that the reps of the early 19th century founded the dems, moved over and turned the reps into loons so their own dumb shit sounds smart
Too bad you can't buy a high quality dumb TV these days
>>52617147
like /g/?
>>52617132
>disable voice recognition
Wow, it's fucking nothing
>>52619316
who fucking cares? dont plug it into the god damn internet you moron
>>52617171
Huxley here.
Orwell is a paranoid anti-fascist faggot.
He was wrong.
>>52617580
>>52617691
>>52617821
Fascism is a transcendence of the political scale of left and right. It is a third way.
Mind you Nazism is Fascism, but Fascism isn't Nazism.
>>52619581
>buy phone that records every single call and lets anyone listen in
>well don't use the phone ya dummy!
>>52619581
>disable
>>52619644
>>52619622
It literally says you don't have to have voice recognition enabled, at the cost of reduced voice control functionality
You can remove the specific service that bugs you
This isn't really new anyway, services reliant of voice recognition (Google now, cortana, etc.) send what you say to the servers to determine what you said accurately
>>52617335
>anyone still using a big-ass CRT television? Ever since my competitive halo days, I refuse to use anything else/
Me. I don't give a shit. I have a CRT form the 80's.
>>52617257
yep, they don't even have to listen
it will convert audio to text which can be automatically searched for keywords
there's also great progress in image recognition as well, so even that will soon be able to searched automatically
>>52617874
>2016
>still needing a tv
if you really have to, get them used
>>52619777
You can pretend to remove it and trust the corporation.Why would they ever lie?
>>52619965
You could remove it if you wanted probably. This isn't a free product, so they're not as interested in you
Mainstream are usually transparent about what they collect - it's in their terms and conditions. They're governed by laws too
>>52619777
What's the point of buying a smart tv if you're gonna disable everything that makes it "smart"?
Voice assistant services like Siri, Cortana and Google Now only listen to what you say when you activate them. They don't lurk in the background while you don't require their assistance.
>>52617343
>using a tv to spy on people is fine because nuthin to hide xdddd
>>52620170
>What's the point of buying a smart tv if you're gonna disable everything that makes it "smart"?
Mostly that you can't fucking buy anything else at this point.
>>52620267
I bought a 1080p LG TV a few months ago.
>>52619597
this you stupid fucks
>>52620288
and we are sorry for your loss
>>52620477
what? i got it for ~$360 brand new from the store, and it's working exactly like i expected it to
why is LG bad?
>>52617132
Just disconnect the TV from the network.
It's not like you need Internet access on it for anything.
>>52620562
it's not a smart tv
i should have put emphasis on this in my first reply, sorry
>>52617132
who the fuck watches television in this day and age? even i as a literal mongoloid see television as an insult of my very limited intelligence.
>>52620621
i don't watch tv, i use it for my ps4 and for watching movies streamed from my pc
>>52620621
>>52620648
fuck i thought you were replying to something else, nevermind
>>52617132
I've got nothing to hide. Keep being butthurt neckbeards.
>>52620836
>muh slippery slope
>>52620850
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. You're not afraid of being revealed as a terrorist, are you?
>>52620821
Then why are you posting anonymously?
>>52619581
>the disable meme
>I can just disable surveillance on my smart tech :^)
>>52620446
Works until it starts getting cellular radio, or attempting to auto connect to your neighbours unsecured wifi.
>>52619614
>orwell paranoid
>nsa is literally happening
>having a smart tv
how much of a fucking luddite do you have to be
>>52619965
If you're seriously this paranoid (and you should seek help if you are), you can easily do traffic analysis to determine whether it's still sending your voice information after disabling the feature.
wait hang on, it says right there that you can just turn off voice recognition
I mean I'm sure at some point they'll sell systems that have it always on I guess but whatever, nothing we can do about it now
>>52623331
>turn off
>proprietary software
do you not know how computers work? Why are you on the technology board?
>>52623374
do you think they would do something like that
just go on the internet and tell lies
>>52617132
Well, good thing you don't need to connect a TV to the internet then.
>>52623403
Yeah I don't know - I guess hitting a check box that says "We're not going to record anything we promise xDDD" is good enough for me! I don't have a copy of the source code, nor did I compile it, but I'm sure it totally stops the privacy invading feature. Paranoia, amirite???
>>52623462
I was being sarcasm
>>52623477
i was playing along w you
>>52623462
Not that guy and I'm not saying there's any real reason to trust some such setting, but:
1) If they really wanted to hide it, why the fuck include it in the EULA in the first place? Legal reasons? If so, then
2) If they're telling you about it in order to not get their asses sued, they would still get their asses sued if they included an option to disable it that didn't actually do anything
Anyway, just get some HTPC, slap some Linux and Kodi on it, connect it to your TV. You'll have way more "smart" in your TV that way, better fucking everything and don't need to connect your spyscreen to the internet.
BUT HOW WILL THE NSA SPY ON DEAF AND DUMB PEOPLE?
>>52623780
>implying they can't decipher sign language
>>52617203
Name some good dumb 4k TVs then
>>52623803
>implying my smart tv's microphone can hear sign language.
>>52623830
>falling for the 4k tv meme
Good goy.
>>52617132
I wouldn't worry too much about government surveillance. Once governments start leveraging advanced computer viruses against each other then everything is probably going to go offline.
>>52623877
Best computer monitors
>>52623900
>input lag
lol
>>52617598
So basically Sesame Credit?
>buy SamsungTV
>get model without microphone/camera
>only network-related function used is Netflix
I'll be alright.
>>52617157
dystopian prose would make a good privacy policy
>>52617257
the violation of privacy supposedly occurs when a human touches the data, the data is not inherently protected
>>52617259
algorithms are sufficiently arcane to the masses that they names can replace party slogans, like "that self-driving car's algorithms are so advanced!" who can publicly audit the IP?
>>52617262
still considering it but did give to smaller guys
>>52617294
>INGSOC
"english socialism"
it doesn't matter at the extremes, queue 300 post stalin vs hitler debate
>>52620267
ew
>>52620562
finally we have a winner
>>52617147
yeah, consumertards tend not to give a shit about anything unless it directly impact their ability to consume
