My wife just talked me out of buying a 3rd gen carbon w/ dual core i7 and 26g of ram. It was 2800 and I was going to run Linux so I'd have something to develop on. Did I do the right thing by listening to her? I'm currently running a mbpro and I'm sick of osx.
>>52591062
you can run linux on a mbp
>>52591062
If you have a good laptop and are unhappy with the OS, why switch laptops over just changing the OS?
>>52591073
Ya but it's a work laptop and it's working fine. Besides I'm not suppose to use it for personal use. Some of my projects would bode well on company equipment
Don't buy a new computer. Run Linux on a VM. If you don't like OSX then Linux isn't for you either. OSX is Unix and acceots Unix commands.
>>52591062
what are you developing that needs those specs? just build a pc for half that if you really need that performance, you can keep the mbp (running loonix if that really tickles your fancy) for making shitposts like this
>>52591112
I have a few Linux VMs running(Linux Armin). I guess I was secretly hoping you guys would say I'd be stupid not to get the x1. Thanks for the feedback!
>>52591118
I work a lot with redis, elastic search, file processing, etc,etc. Speaking of shit posts, I have another one coming up
>>52591062
Sell the memebook, buy the X1 with the money, problem solved.
>>52591062
What's wrong with OS X?
>>52591165
>What's wrong with OS X?
>>52591152
/thread
inb4 she buys a $2800 dollar jewelry and you can't tell her no
>>52591165
Have you noticed the subtle changes in finder? It drives me crazy.
>>52591133
curious, why does a linux admin need to run local VM's?
>>52591062
>I'm sick of osx
In what ways? Please elaborate, many of us (including myself) are actually considering mbp because of the build quality and unix memes.
>>52591165
it is objectively the worst OS in the world with the worst filesystem backed by the most unethical, most hipster, liberal arts tier company.
>>52591196
Test out systtemd in coreos. Also I need an ancient version of java to deal with stupid ilo/imm oob
>>52591165
>>52591197
>oh no! someone doesn't like my meme os
>tell me why RIGHT NOW so i can call you retarded!
>>52591197
>choosing os x because of the unix meme
Why choose the worst implementation of it?
>>52591197
>mac
>build quality
Pick one.
>>52591062
I think you mean your wife's son.
>>52591142
all of those should be done on a aws machine through ssh
>>52591062
do you really need an i7 to run linux for development
i mean unless youre doing database crunching
>>52591253
I use digital ocean for 5 bucks a month. But not a whole lot of power
>>52591206
I agree with the filesystem being shit
>>52591194
Like what? I'd have to say if anything Finder's improved in the last few years.
>>52591212
Fuck off you piece of shit some people actually try to help.
>>52591258
Yup, that will definitely happen.
>>52591224
>(Windows)
>The performance of the Macbook was much better under OS X
>actually benchmarking the Macbook under Windows
>>52591212
Who are you quoting? I don't even use OS X neither am I defending it, I just asked OP why is he sick of it.
>>52591219
>worst
Care to elaborate?
>>52591267
>wahhh someone insulted apple
>i must defend them with my life because apple is the gratest companee in the wurld
>>52591194
i don't use OSX but my dad (long-time software engineer who turned manager) has a MBP, which he always complains about yet claims it's a great OS. The other day he was trying to find where iTunes imported some music I gave him, so he searched for it in (I assume) Finder, it found the files instantly but then he spent minutes trying to figure out how to get the full path of the file.
"But look how fast it found the file!"
and that's why OSX is not Unix
>>52591298
>"But look how fast it found the file!"
kek'd hard
>>52591297
It's more like
>oh someone ripping on OS X again
>let's see what bullshit reason they have this time
And then occasionally someone gives a legitimate reason, to which the argument ends on agreement, steps to solve the issue, or on a to each his own note
>>52591297
>wahh someone made a thread tangentally related to Apple
>i must go in the thread and start shitposting to defend my 10 year old thinkpad's pride!
>>52591267
>if anything Finder's improved in the last few years.
Finder is pure refined and filtered and condensed shit.
>>52591298
Your dad not knowing how to use his OS doesn't mean that it's anything.
>>52591337
More like mediocre. It's not terrible, but file managers are definitely something Apple needs practice with.
>>52591329
>steps to solve the issue
sudo rm -rf /
Then install a real OS.
>>52591350
>ur jus using it rong!
>>52591337
The ui changed, and its not even subtle. And I can't even change it back. And that what pisses me off. I liked it the way I had it setup and they slipped in this goddamn change. Its irritating. Also case insensitive fs, ds_store files everywhere, hiding ~/library and /, plists, the EULA, having to sign said EULA to run got the first time, no command line interface to the app store(I use boxen so that matters)
>>52591350
>mediocre
>literally the only OS on the planet that goes completely out of its way to hide every single element of the filesystem from the user, because their braindead customer base finds it scary
Kill yourself shit eater.
>>52591374
Sorry,I meant git - damn autocorrect
Why haven't you quit OSX yet /g/?
http://wozniak.ca/why-i-quit-os-x
>>52591351
like another distro?
>>52591062
She's a keeper senpai. Get a used thinkpad.
>>52591350
that they make it not obvious to display the full path is anything
even windows search (iirc) has the full path as one of the default columns in search results. at least it did back when i was using windows
osx has clear priorities with regard to ui/ux/system design and layout, and one of those priorities is to keep complicated things like hierarchical file management out of their users' soft and delicate brains
on a gnu system, locate/slocate/mlocate performs very fast searches against an indexed database of the file system and outputs one file per line (with the full path) to stdout, where it can be redirected or piped for further processing. this is unix.
Just get a cheap, decent laptop.
Go for an x220 or some shit like that.
For me its a lot easier to convince my husband about buying cheap used shit that's solid, than medium priced used shit.
>>52591413
What about your husband's son?
>>52591351
>delete your real OS to install a real OS
Why?
>>52591365
Well given he struggled to do something trivial, yes, I'd say he was doing it wrong.
>>52591062
If it's your money you're spending tell your cunt wife to fuck herself.
>>52591427
>wife
It's not his own money anymore. :^)
>>52591423
>all these AIDF mental gymnastics
>>52591432
Exactly.
>nonono don't buy that laptop
>buy me these stupidly priced shoes instead for my "girls night out"
>>52591447
What mental gymnastics?
>>52591422
We have no children yet.
>>52591062
Pic related should be able to do everything you need, OP. You can get a snazzy T420 with an i7, 8 gigs of RAM, and a 1600X900 screen for about 300$ on Ebay. Buy an SSD and move the HDD into the Ultrabay and you're all set.
>inb4 memepad
Of all /g/'s memes, the Thinkpad is the one that lives up to the hype. Best tech related purchase I ever made.
>>52591484
>1600x900
>snazzy
>>52591484
Ooh, nice - thanks!
>>52591521
>implying any more than that on a 14" screen isn't a luxury
>implying you need 1080p (or more) to program
I don't know what to say anon. You might just be a consumer whore.
>>52591450
>girls night out
Is that the new codeword for date with Tyrone?
>>52591062
>letting your wife control you
Smack the absolute shit out of her for fucking daring to try and change your decision. Women should be seen, not heard.
>>52591539
Personally my motto is 'buy cheap, buy twice'.
>>52591484
>OP needs 24gb ram
>thinktards suggest used $300 stinkpads with 1/3 the power OP wanted
>mactard zealots religiously try to get op to stay with mac and osx and call any faults of the mac the op's own fault
I don't even know who's more cancer.
In any case, if OP is even still here, you'll be far better served with a desktop. If you really need portability, a Clevo with your own parts will be much better as you can stuff 3x SSDs in it so your drives aren't choking for lack of bandwidth.
>>52591578
Notice how the 1 and 2 keys are very close to each other, ffs. I'd love to get a real server but I live in a shoebox.
>>52591578
Nobody's told OP to keep using OS X.
>>52591542
Basically yeah.
>>52591598
How small a shoebox do you live in that you can't even fit a desktop style ATX under your monitor?
>>52591578
He never said he needed the high specs. He just said he wanted a laptop to run Linux on for development purposes. The T420 (or any old business-grade laptop) should be able to do that for much, much cheaper than a new laptop.
>>52591062
$2800? Why would you blow $2800 on a computer to run Linux?
>>52591224
>dat pic
Wait, what? So they ran Windows with BootCamp in order to run Windows-based stress testing tools?
I kind of doubt that gives a meaningful measure of the Mac's potential.
>>52591539
>>implying you need 1080p (or more) to program
You're an idiot.
>>52591654
You should see how much we spend at work on computers to run Linux. Heck, a single fusion io card is 16k
>>52591677
Irrelevant. What development work necessitates a $2800 Linux laptop?
>>52591669
>Mac's potential.
Running the tests under Windows probably artificially inflated its performance.
>software developer
>I'm currently running a mbpro
>not smart enough or skilled enough to install Linux on that MBP bare metal
Man you must be one shitty fucking software developer, I mean really.
>>52591748
but Stallman doesn't even install his OS.
>>52591062
Buy it if you want it nigga. Don't let your wife tell you otherwise.
>>52591741
This is like three years old, find something not ancient.
>>52591781
This damage control is like three years old, find something not ancient.
>>52591062
I have a third gen Carbon X1 (1440p), its fantastic in every way, almsot perfect. The only meh thing is the speakers, also make sure to take off the crappy anti-glare coating it makes the screen fuzzy and dim
>>52591741
>those minimal differences
>that vagueness
Anyway, you're a fucking idiot.
You think the minor advantage one OS or the other has could be reflected in Prime95 scores? No, no it couldn't.
But heat management? Sub-optimal heat management thanks to shitty BootCamp drivers? Yeah, maybe.
Don't try to participate in the conversation anymore. You don't belong here.
>>52591781
And OSX has only gotten more and more bloated while W10 has actually become even more lean than 8. Any benchmarks now would be even more embarassing for OSX. To say nothing of linux performance.
>>52591879
>mactard
>actually tries to defend macshit overheating on drivers and windows
topkek
>>52591898
Learn to poo in the loo Rajeet.
>>52591898
I'm not defending anything. I'm calling out vague, hand-wavy screenshots as being the shit that they are.
What do you want to bet in that Windows vs. OS X comparison that they didn't even turn off whatever that hybrid-sleep fastboot bullshit is called?
>>52591462
that you know about, cuck
>>52591112
That's like saying if you hate Spanish as a language, youll hate French too. Sure, both share a common ancestor but both function very differently.
>>52591985
>That's like saying if you hate Spanish as a language, youll hate French too.
Uh. That's probably true though.
I'm not GP, but Linux and OS X are extremely similar. OS X + GNU toolchain is pretty much most of what you want out of Linux, but with a better, less buggy UI layer.
>>52591539
That screen is utter shit though, and it's not about the resolution.
Replace it with an IPS one.
