Unless you play all the latest AAA video games, what reasons do you have to get a computer made after say, 2007?
>>52590231
Media is getting large these days. You need a stronger pc to push those large files around.
4k rendering
none, thats why you buy a mac
>>52590231
Hardware eventually fails
>>52590231
For most people there really is no reason. If it weren't for websites turning into uncouth bloatbeasts there'd be almost no benefit to upgrading for Joe Public.
>>52590373
opteron 180
3GiB DDR 400
6800GS
still my main bedrom rig. I do like playing gaymes and i have a more powerful PC for that, but the opteron rig was built in 2005/2006 i believe and i use it for a lot of things, even some gaymes.
10 bit cartoons
Separate monitor, separate keyboard
>>52590231
You ever try QTGMC deinterlacing and encoding on an old dual-core?
14 days.
14 days to encode a 2 hour concert at QTGMC(preset="medium")
>>52590231
encoding
rendering
faster file processing(multithreading)
bigger workloads
vms
ramdisks
in 2007, I could only have like 5 programs open at any given time. now I dont even have to think about it
Unless you exclusively like to play old games there are games that aren't AAA material but still require a bit of horsepower (But that's mostly because the Developer didn't optimize the game)
VT-x that actually performs well
Still rocking my c2d e8400 with a geforce 9500. Outside of upgrading my storage I haven't felt the need to throw any money at it. To be fair though, I hardly do anything with it so I don't really need anything that's very powerful.
>>52590231
Silly question f4m
>>52590373
What's hard about putting in an additional 2Gb of RAM every 5 years. It's essentially the only change we've seen due to website pages being refined graphically. The other changes are network side, and joe schmoe doesn't have to do anything; the ISP does.
>>52590231
Unless you're racing, what reasons do you have to get a car made after say, 1999?
>>52590880
>inb4 someone says this is different and isn't related.
It is, what was wrong with cars of yesterday? They work perfectly fine. They don't explode chronically, they drive the way they were meant to.
Dev work. I have a top of the line Haswell rig (xeon E3, >20 GB RAM), but no graphics card. When I compile, say, Android, it uses all of my RAM and maxes out my CPU for ~15-30 minutes.
You need something better than the mid-range of 2007 to play stereoscopic 3D 180° porn on a VR headset.
>>52591093
They work fine, they're just missing a whole bunch of important safety features of the last 20 years like TCS, ABS brakes - those two are crazy important on rainy or snowy roads - side-impact airbags, and cars in the past or 2-3 years have nice safety features like auto-stop before detected impact, lane-drift detection, etc
>>52590231
Because they're cheap. You can buy used core2duos (which are 2008) for like 10$ or something.
>>52590576
E8400 represent here. Wasup senpai? Did you OC it to 3.6GHz?
>>52590231
For 3D, working in Photoshop, and that I make video games with a company. Sometimes I play games but I'm too busy making them.
>>52590231
I use more modern laptops because I wanted to get off the grid. Powering a desktop is out of the question and newer laptops are power efficient if nothing else.
Now if only there was a DC fridge.
>>52590880
>>52591093
None tbqh
>>52591405
But anon my car was made in 1999 and it has the things you mentioned. ABS, TCS, airbags even side ones. The one things it doesn't have is stability control but it doesn't really need one since it's almost perfectly balanced. You can feel it's about to go over the limit well before reaching it and when it does it starts to oversteer, that is if you're going over 50 km/h before that it understeers, so you'll still have control over where you're going and correcting oversteer with FWD is piss easy. Don't really need lane drift or automatic braking features since I don't drive when I'm so tired that they would be useful. And I'm pretty sure it's safer than modern small cars.
It's also comfier than most modern cars and at least as reliable. Just went over 300 000 km few weeks ago and I haven't had to do anything besides the regular maintenance to it.
And all this for the purchase price of under 3k eurodollars 2 years ago.
My plan is to use my 2011 MBP until at least 2021.
>>52590231
a) If you're a Windows user, a 2007 computer would chug like crazy on anything Vista and above.
b) You do video editing for a living.
c) Planned obsolescence kicked in.
With a different cutoff point however, your question is much more valid. What's the point of getting a computer newer than 2010?
>>52592416
Good for you, not every world region had the foresight to require ABS, TCS and side airbags that many years ago. Some cars being sold in the past few years in Australia still didn't have TCS as standard until the law changed
>>52590231
Power consumption and virtualization. My next computer is going to have an 8 core CPU with 20W TDP
>>52590231
Javascript.
>>52590231
I don't, I had bought a new setup and I found myself bored of games. Then I sold it and since then I've been running my old setup.
>>52592537
How is this at all relevant to my post? I don't live in a different planet where all the cars made in 1999 had those things. Only the high end cars had them back then. However you can buy 10-20 year old luxury cars for fucking pennies. And they're still much comfier than a new budget car.
I'm certain you can find the same cars even in Australia. Tbqh it's gonna be much easier in Australia since you don't drive half of the year in snow and salt so the used cars there are much more likely to be rust free.
SCIENCE!
2007 is 9 years ago.
Using a computer that is 4-5 years old is not that unreasonable but most computers from that time has perished and I wouldn't buy a used computer that is 9 years old.
>>52590231
well, nothing really. that's why i bought an x201.
>>52590231
>have shit tier psu
>boom
>"sayonara computer_parts-san"
>>52590231
I actually use a computer made in 2007 and If I had the money to blow on something I'd upgrade it in a blink.
I experience noticeable slowdowns when doing your typical uni work (firefox, word processor and a presentation software).
Shit's unbearable.
Not to mention those fucking websites that require 103842038940293408293 separate js that do absolute fuckshit but don't work without them.
>>52595520
what specs anon?
>>52590231
I use Chrome
>>52595631
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz
2GB of ram
ati hd 2300
>>52590231
>Unless you play all the latest AAA video games, what reasons do you have to get a computer made after say, 2007?
16-lane PCIe 3.0 slots
SR-IOV
PCIe fallthrough
4th and 5th generation DDR
>>52590231
>what reasons do you have to get a computer made after say, 2007?
More performance.
>>52590231
if you are a normalfag generally better processor speeds for javascript and much much better battery life
I program alot and work with multithreading
>>52595784
Javaaascript ! Hate javascript !
>>52593378
I just got one a few days ago, It's nice for programming, and other basic PC shit. Although I don't use it for a daily drivers because muh games and I do CAD work for an engineering class I'm in.
>>52590231
If all you do is browse the web, do basic word processing, watch videos and listen to music then you could quite easily get by with something basic like a netbook running a lightweight Linux distro or a Chromebook.
>>52590231
>He isn't using his computer for other things except gaymes and web surfing
>>52595784
>for javascript
>a language for webapps that do far less things and in far more time than desktop equivalents
that's why we need more performance. so sad to tell you're right.
>>52590231
AutoCAD, Video editing and encoding.
Shit like that.
>>52592749
>but most computers from that time has perished
The fuck are you talking about
It's shit for anything except web browsing/programming/watching animu
>>52590231
Web pages have gotten so bloated that you need something decent nowadays for a good experience, my 2010 mbp has trouble keeping up on some of the heavier sites.
As for my desktop, my casual gaming has left me with something that was modern in 2012
>>52590231
Guy who literally owns a computer from 2007 reporting in.
>10bit 720p anime lags
>any modern browser stutters A LOT
>360p videos on youtube are unwatchable during to the crippling choppiness
>websites lag
>have to close everything else when I decide to watch an anime or a movie
>encoding videos and editing videos require a powerful PC if you edit high-quality videos
>gaming is a no-no, even if you're gonna play simple games like WoW (and I'm talking about the older expansions like TBC; if you want to run games smoothly prepare to play them at the lowest settings, at the lowest resolution and in windowed mode AND turn off anything that runs in the background)
>Intel C2D E2180
> <1 GB of ram since my internal gpu takes some
>did I mention that I have an internal GPU? (old VIA, 128 megabytes)
>>52596164
oh
and I'm running XP
>>52596164
You know that upgrading it would fix most of your problems, right?
- Get a PCIe GPU
- 2GB extra RAM
- try to OC your CPU
- Install win7
>>52596214
This. Can't even watch 360p videos without stuttering? Time to upgrade, anon.
>>52596214
just buying a gpu would fix all of my problems
I used to run windows 7 AND game on it. Now 7 flat out refuses to even start the installation
A few extra gigs of ram wouldn't be bad, but I don't have money. I would've already bought a GPU if I had.
I just have better things to spend my money on.
>>52596262
The weird thing is...720p runs at a decent framerate when using Flash.
>>52596164
>gaming is a no-no
1.6 is STILL the best game out
>>52596326
And it still runs below 20 fps at the native monitor res.
>>52596285
you're either not even trying or don't have any friends who will pass on their old parts or living in venezuela. might want to fix one of those things.
>>52596380
Turn off HD models
Sata III 6.0 gbps
>>52596386
My friends updated a long time ago.
The CPU sockets are different, their RAM is ddr3, their GPUs require too much power. (and keep in mind, they're trashing them/selling them!)
They've wanted to give me some but the parts are just not compatible.
>>52590231
>It's okay to be poor
>Please everyone assure me that being poor is fine
I have a PC from 2006 and it can hardly handle the 100 or so tabs I have open. Sometimes laggy but otherwise fine for programming and watching movies. Wouldn't mind playing a game of CS with the boys every now and then. Planning an upgrade ~$700 for a decent rig.
>>52596682
>100 or so tabs I have open
I don't understand this, why do you need that many tabs open
>>52596813
I find something interesting but am too busy to get to it. It's also inevitable if you're doing research. Sometimes I like to keep it open as a reminder. My bookmarks have about a thousand or so entries. Think keeping that many tabs open shouldn't be a problem anymore. Eh.
>>52596164
Get more RAM and install a a distro with a lightweight DE/WM
>>52590231
well my am2 motherboard for my athlon 64 3500+ broke down in 2013 and couldn't find proper motherboard so I bought i5
>>52591610
Power inverters exist.
>>52596178
Install lubuntu from a usb you will get a lot more stability out of ur old hardware
>>52597295
Tried it with Wubi (or a wubi-like tool; I don't remember)
It ran just a tad beter than XP.
Is there any significant difference in performance if you install JUST Lubuntu instead of dual-booting it like I did?
>>52595727
Upgrade your cpu and ram for under $20 dumbass
>>52598383
it's a laptop
dumbass
Operating System security. The longer any software has been on the market, the more likely it is to have been compromised, if we're talking mainstream releases. If you mean some niche Linux distro, it probably is better to use older versions since it's unlikely to have been compromised and people would dedicate their malicious efforts to newer releases with larger userbases.
>>52590283
What am I looking at?
>>52592436
Apple will not allow it. OS update will fuck you up.
>>52600385
Business cards from all the apple stores a guys been to. It was on reddit yesterday. Don't ask me how I know this.
>>52595727
My laptop is from 2008, I plan to make it to 2018.
C2D T7250@ 2.2GHz
4GB RAM
GT 8600M
120GB SSD + 500GB HDD
1920x1200 16:10 comfy display
For a laptop of this age, SSD is the single best thing you can do. It is seriously night and day difference and gave my grandpa another 3 years of use. even though its just SATA II.
Genymotion + IntelliJ Idea + Gradle build + Sonarqube server + Web Browser + Jetty running Java Servlets
This tops out 8Gbs of ram.
>>52600558
You can.
Everybody could do this.
I am currently at:
x Coolermaster CM690
x Antec 500 Watt power supply
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 which runs at 4 GHz
*6 GB DDR2 667 MHz which runs at 880 Mhz
AMD 6870
120 GB Samsung SSD
*500 GB Storage
x Parts I already had from my previous built (Phenom II X4 940, 4 GB 1066 MHz, ATi 4830, 500 GB HDD)
* Parts I got for free
All I have to say is that it really is fine for browsing the internet, Dota 2, Skype.. it has a little trouble with Heroes & Generals.
My monitor is a Iiyama ProLite B2409HDS which I got for free from my dad's work.
Really wondering, should I buy a second hand Radeon R9 290 to boost performance or will the CPU hold back everything? I want more FPS for Heroes and Generals.
>>52600557
oh no you browse other sites than 4chan, this place is the worst place to ever get advice on anything.
>>52590231
I do play games but I still don't have a reason to upgrade my fairly old Phwenom2/7870 rig. It still games well.
I prefer to upgrade every 5-7ish years rather than incrementally update every 2 years.
>>52600084
not that guy, but you can still do ram and maybe drop an ssd in there. this will run you about 100 burger tokens, if i remember right. 150 didgeridoo tokens.
>>52592509
>What's the point of getting a computer that can actually run new software and be useful,
>>52601999
How much software out there would run terribly on a 4-5 year old computer? I've got a laptop from 2011 and aside from john the ripper, virtual box, videogame emulators and modern games (which I'm not interested in anyway) I don't think there was a situation when I'd explicitly need the extra juice.
Power consumption. It's cheaper in the long run to buy a more modern computer.
>>52602158
Mostly multitasking, but Gentoo is important to the procreation of the human race.
>>52590231
I use mine for blender, 3ds and alike. Also for some despicably bloated IDEs like Visual Studio (I love it as a tool, but I wouldn't stand having to use it in an old computer)
And there's also the obvious multimedia files.
>>52602255
How much multitasking are we talking about and for what purpose?
>>52590231
If you don't mind Windows XP / slow Windows 7, get a Pentium 4 HT and use that.
>Might want to get a bigger hard disk and probably at least a Radeon HD4550 for best performance, IMO. Might as well go for 2003 in that case.
Decent for playing older games, as well as some new games on lowest settings.
>>52590693
>What's hard about putting in an additional 2Gb of RAM every 5 years. It's essentially the only change we've seen due to website pages being refined graphically.
>It's essentially the only change we've seen
Why do you insist posting when it's blatantly obvious that you have no grasp of what you're talking about?
>>52590693
the problem is that JavaScript and Flash all run client-side.
>The slower the computer, the slower and choppier all your bullshit ads and scripts will run
>>52590880
My car was made in 1976.
>>52592509
So don't run Vista and configure 7 to run for performance. A single core Sempron 3400+ with 1GB of RAM runs perfectly fine with Windows 7, and that's where I do all of my editing.
>It's only decent at this because it's only 720p video
>>52592548
What is it with people and power consumption? You want the least power consumption, you get a fucking netbook and use it on the battery only.
>inb4 people go batshit insane over my blatant disregard for environmentalists
>>52596164
> <1 GB of ram since my internal gpu takes some
>did I mention that I have an internal GPU? (old VIA, 128 megabytes)
that's your issue right there.
Any, and I mean ANY graphics card will speed up your system significantly.
Bring your total system RAM to 2GB, should help out.
>I am literally on a 2003 PC here and I have none of these issues
>>52596285
>The weird thing is...720p runs at a decent framerate when using Flash.
HTML5 sucks ass, that's why.
Use a decent browser, I'd recommend anything other than Chrome for an older PC such as the one you described (inb4 people blow up on me)
>>52596424
>yfw I tell you that Parallel, by nature, will be faster at the same timing rates than Serial
>>52590231
> Unless you play all the latest AAA video games, what reasons do you have to get a computer made after say, 2007?
I've literally tried this, except it was 2006 and I was forced to upgrade kicking and screaming a few years ago (2013).
This guy
>>52596164
speaks the truth, but in my case my computer was higher spec and my problems weren't quite as bad.
I had 2 GB memory (high for 2006 with windows XP 32 bit, mind you), I had the most expensive processor I could buy for 300.00, and a ~250 dollar video card that was upgraded a couple times over the computer's lifespan.
I could actually play games very well up until the very end in 2013, but non-gaming software got slower as time marched on. Firefox was slow, streaming video was worse, and even the OS also was slower than it originally was in 2006 (navigating directories and such).
The Firefox issue was the deal breaker and especially made me realize that most software is not going to be optimized for "low spec" machines. Developers are lazy and always have the fastest hardware. Your machine spec's are only considered out of pity for a few years, and then specs at that level are slowly forgotten and its eventually considered irrelevant if performance blows on your machine.
>>52590880
>Unless you're racing, what reasons do you have to get a car made after say, 1999?
The most inaccurate analogy of the 21st century, everyone.
In 2016 premium cars have
>stereo cameras in the front and systems that'll break FOR you
>integrated navs and bluetooth support
>led headlights
>fully automated parking
Now those are unbelievable feature upgrades, serious enough to consider buying a new car.
Going with a car metaphor, the only thing that's upgraded in PCs is that they go from 0-60 in 1 second instead of 6.
>>52591093
Worse brakes, worse efficiency, more contaminating, worse security, worse features, no ABS, no modern direction, less prone to total destruction but more probability of you being stabbed in the stomach on a crash, mechanical failures with no backup system that could end in horrible accidents, etc.
Bunch of kids and neckbeards in this ITT thread.
>>52598383
>Intel Core Duo T2250 1.73GHz
>2GB RAM
>Intel Integrated 945GM
Works perfectly fine under both Windows XP and Vista.
>It's a Toshiba Satellite A135-S4427
>>52600244
On a scale of 1-10, how compromised is Windows 1.01 or MS-DOS 3.30 in this year of 2016?
>>52602557
Note that your biggest problems were with the web. The overwhelming growing bloat of the web is the #1 problem to those trying to use older machines. Streaming video wouldn't be a problem if Netflix, etc created efficient desktop clients instead of trying to do everything in a web browser.
Gentoomen, something must be done to make the web sane again. We can't let this sludgebeast continue to grow and force people into buying new devices with ever-growing frequency.
>>52590231
dunno lol
>>52602723
>created efficient desktop clients instead of trying to do everything in a web browser
They have no incentive to do that, this is the age of the cloud.
poorfags
>>52602952
That doesn't make sense. A desktop client hooks into "the cloud" just as much as a web browser does; websites are clients too, albeit much more inefficient.
A big bonus to be gained from the desktop client approach is no need to wait for web standards and browser userbases; if they wanted to flip over to h.265 for example that would be as simple as pushing an update to the Netflix client.
>>52590231
Pic related.
