if the iMac actually had desktop-class components in it would /g/ respect it then?
>>52585932
it has
>>52585976
>mobile gpu, laptop graphics card
yeah nah
Probably not.
>>52585932
it's practically impossible to upgrade unless you get the 27"
and that one only supports ram upgrades, nothing else
>>52586059
well most computer consumers aren't autists who need to upgrade every part of their computer ever 3 months
>>52586085
and most consumers don't want a desktop.
they'd rather have one good laptop
>>52585932
>if the iMac actually had desktop-class components
>OS is cancer
if you attached some lead bricks to it and made it look like it weighed as much as an average /g/entooman, then maybe.................
>>52585932
The 27" is mostly desktop already - it uses a full size socketed desktop CPU and 3.5" HD. Only the RAM and GPU are mobile.
The 21.5" model is the one that's a laptop shoved into a case alongside a monitor.
I think the iMacs are fine as they are, though. What I'd really like to see instead is:
1) For Apple to update their thunderbolt displays with Thunderbolt 3 and the same display panels found in the 27" iMacs
2) For Apple to release an xMac, an upgradable mid-high end "prosumer" headless minitower that fills the niche that the entry level Powermacs used to fill
There's a class of users that sit somewhere between consumer-oriented desktop and 6+ core Xeon with dual FirePros and Apple currently isn't serving it at all. If that's what you need you're best served by building a hackintosh, which a fair number of people do now. Apple could be cashing in on these folks.
>>52586304
>Apple could be scamming these folks with $300 in hardware marked up 500% too.
>>52586011
>needing a gpu
>>52585932
no. being gay is a mental illness and i don't respect handicapped people
>>52586304
>There's a class of users that sit somewhere between consumer-oriented desktop and 6+ core Xeon with dual FirePros and Apple currently isn't serving it at all.
yep, struck the nail on the head
i'd be immediately one of those consumers. i love the OS and hate hackintoshes
don't want to spend $3000+ on some professional movie designer desktop computer that rarely gets updated
>>52586304
>tfw imacs will never be this easy to work on
>>52586304
They're not going to make tower PCs again, I'm quite sure about that.
The market is headed towards all-in-ones and thin clients, not build-your-own-towers again.
I had a "gaming pc" and only needed to upgrade the video card over 7 years. Adding HD space is now a matter of building a nas or using an external for media.
The market has spoken and people prefer buy and forget hardware like their phones, tablets, and laptops. The people who frequent /g/ or enthusiasts are niche now.
that said, it doesn't excuse apple for ripping people off with laptop quality parts in their desktops.
>>52586402
does it really matter that they use so-dimms
max of 64gb either way with laptop or desktop ram
>>52586362
The first couple revisions (pre-webcam) WERE that easy to work on, but after the webcam revision hit they started going nuts on the thin meme and they became a royal PITA to work on.
>>52586304
>For Apple to update their thunderbolt displays with Thunderbolt 3 and the same display panels found in the 27" iMacs
I've been following this closely and it's unlikely to happen until 2017 now, excuse the reddit link, but it's the best source on the topic: https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/3jleip/just_learned_that_thunderbolt_3_supported_by/
After reading this I'm seriously considering getting the 5k iMac, because I'm going to struggle to wait that long
>>52585932
I respect it already as a desktop class computer for most use cases. That being said, I personally would never use one as my primary machine. But, if I needed something niche (graphics editing and UI prototyping, for example), then I would consider purchasing a Mac Pro as an auxiliary machine.
As far as laptops go, the Macbook Pro still blows the competition all the fuck out.
>>52586471
That blows. The current TB displays are super updated between there being an air gap between the display panel and front glass (iMacs have been direct-laminated for ages now), Thunderbolt 2, and old magsafe. There's no way I'd spend money on a TB display right now.
That really sucks, because having the monitor act as a TB hub with a whole extra set of powered ports on their own PCI-E bus conveniently located right on the back of the monitor in combo with a tower on the floor is awesome. Stuff sitting on the top of your desk can hook into the monitor cleanly with short cables, leaving a bare minimum of long cables stretching down to the tower. Less mess and way more port headroom should it be needed.
>>52586473
>macshit
>desktop class
topkek
>>52586574
>super updated
*super outdated
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>>52586473
>shitbook
>blow anything out
>gets destroyed by even acer shit
lmao
>>52586680
>stress test benchmark software that can destroy hardware if improperly used.
>typical case everyday use.
there is no user case where machines are taxed that hard. If you are using a laptop as a render farm you are retarded.
>>52586778
>lol we got so xxxtreme hi specs and da best engineering of ALL time
>just never use it for more than facebook or it'll catch fire
Kill yourself mactoddler.
>>52586841
He's talking about running the CPU sustained at 100% for an hour which probably literally never happens in real life. High-grade specs are useful for short bursts of heavy usage, like compilation of a large codebase or rendering a complex webpage rapidly, and the MBP excels at those *realistic* tasks.
>>52586910
>running the CPU sustained at 100% for an hour which probably literally never happens in real life
2 poos have been deposited in your designated shit eating hands sukhdeep
>>52586574
Right, the TB displays have been a bad buy for some time now. I wish Apple would just eat humble pie and use an MST connector to make the 5K TB display happen, but they'll never do it because it's not perfect.
As for cable extension, I've been using something like this for some time now http://9to5mac.com/2014/12/12/review-elgatos-thunderbolt-2-dock/, the TB display hub is a far neater solution though.
>>52586910
>like compilation of a large gay porn folder or rendering a facebook webpage rapidly, and the MBP excels at those *realistic* tasks
Fixed.
>>52586928
Congratulations on finding a way to lower the already extremely low bar of discussion on this board
>>52586954
>lol if max wuz had desktop chip wud u by it?! xD
Just leave mactards, you don't belong here, you never belonged here, you will never belong here.
Go circlejerk and rumor gossip over on Macrumors or some other shit site made for brain dead technology illiterate consumer whores like yourself.
STEVE JOBS - CIRCLE EDITION
has just visited this thread. If you wish to have your reality distortion field subscription renewed, reply to this post
>thanks Steve
>>52585932
No.
>>52587001
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>52587001
>shit site made for brain dead technology illiterate consumer whores
But isn't that /g/? Threads that aren't about consumer tech have been rare for years now. You have to go elsewhere if you want technical discussions of any quality whatsoever
any reasoned discussion on /g/ will be met with scorn and contraion opinion. the apple hate machine is illogical in its blind hatred of a company because of it's perceived undeserved success.
>>52587085
2 poos have been deposited in your designated shit eating hands rajeesh
>>52587001
>this projecting redditor
It's you who doesn't belong here. Fuck off.
>>52586340
that's what he said isn't it?
>>52587001
>or some other shit site made for brain dead technology illiterate consumer whores like yourself.
You mean /g/?
>>52587001
>brain dead technology illiterate consumer whores like yourself.
Unlike the intellectual giant like yourself who thinks the height of comedy is le shitting indian meme
>>52586344
>needing an iMac
>not doing all of your work on a shiny new iPad Pro with Apple Pencil paired with your Apple Watch
>>52587001
This desu senpai. Why do mactoddlers even come to /g/?
>>52586344
>thinking you don't when IT HAS A FUCKING 5K MONITOR YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>52586059
>it's practically impossible to upgrade unless you get the 27"
>and that one only supports ram upgrades, nothing else
>>52586085
>well most computer consumers aren't autists who need to upgrade every part of their computer ever 3 months
Most babby's first computer /g/ basement dwellers are falsely concerned about this.
I find that the majority of you neckbeards don't even upgrade your computer much: Once it's built, you keep it around until it's outdated then build a whole new system, MAYBE salvaging some parts like the case and PSU. Cause really, in 2-4 years' time, do you really want all that ancient shit? Unlikely.
>>52587274
>hurr my Gayman shitbox needs a souped up quad-SLI of Titans for 2K resolution
>>52587332
iMacs have great resale value anyway, I resold a 12 month old one a few years back for about 75% of purchase price. Upgrading is pointless when you buy a new one with little loss.
>>52587417
>resale value
>macfags are so poor they need to sell any of their computers
>ever
>>52587274
Why exactly do you need a flagship GPU for 2D content editing, which is the primary "professional" application for iMacs?
>>52587501
I don't see the point of owning older machines, I'm not nostalgic, so I sell them while they're still worth something
>>52587645
>being this poor
>>52587896
You're right, I must be poor because I don't want my apartment turning into an autistic computer history museum
>>52587962
>all this poorfag damage control
Keep crying macpoor.
>>52585932
there are intrinsic problems with "all in one" devisements
>>52586359
Is there porn of this nerdy looking chick?
>desktop-class
cool meaningless buzzword
did you actually mean to say
>if the imac was fully upgradable would /g/ respect it then
yes, but apple consumers wouldn't because it would no longer conform to le thin meme
If macs were upgradeable what would they be then? A design of case?
>>52590626
An even more overpriced Alienware.
>>52590152
>apple consumers wouldn't because it would no longer conform to le thin meme
nobody gives two shits about thin devices, only tim cück because he's a jewish cost cutting whore and thin = cheap to Mfg.
>>52589544
There's only 3 videos.
>>52590761
Simple formula
Manufacturers love thin = forced obsolescence and cheaper parts (smaller batteries, weaker processors)
Media and marketing says thin = status symbol (it's a physical proof that you own a newer device, something visible to onlookers, unlike specs and tiny version numbers)
Consumers buy into it
I can build a better computer for half the cost of an iMac and it won't take a genius to fix if something breaks.
>you've built a hackintosh
>>52587506
Video encoding takes a lot of processing power and would be sped up by having a better gpu.
>>52585932
I already respect it. iMacs are great all in ones
>>52591467
>>you've eaten shit from your hands
>>52591490
>you literally store photos of shit on your computer like some kind of scat fetishist
>>52591513
it's all this guy has
>>52591513
>>you literally consume shit from your hands like some kind of scat fetishist
>>52591482
I have no feeling towards macs, but recently it was released that even a Macbook (Note, not the MPB) can render 4k videos much faster than one with a PC with an i7 because of Final Cut Pro. Ultimately, it comes down to optimization, which Apple has completely nailed.
>>52585932
why would it need /g/'s respect to begin with? why would anything need /g/'s respect for that matter?
If it fits your needs, you buy it, if not, you just shut the fuck up, and buy whatever fits your needs.
