https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004
https://forum.therightstuff.biz/topic/7384/get-in-here-sjws-trying-to-take-over-ruby-open-comments
>>52568084
http://paul-m-jones.com/archives/6214
Le sjw bogeyman
Le anti sjw bogeyman
>>52568451
>ignoring cancer
>thinking it will go away
>>52568451
Not sure if bogeyman or bogeywoman desu.
http://where.coraline.codes/
> Coraline Ada Ehmke
> INTERSECTIONAL TECHNOLOGIST.
> TRANSGENDER FEMINIST.
>>52568468
>giving attention whores attention
>thinking it will go away
>>52568498
>>52568519
>>52568084
>covenant
So we are free to adopt it but also not to?
>wahh wahh i can't be a dick to other people anymore
ffs how can you value openness and open yourselves to criticism?
>>52568084
>version/1/3/0/
SJWs in charge of "Restful API"s
>>52568587
>>52568552
I love how you're proving my point that she's an attention whore.
Stop validating her existence. She probably comes here and masturbates to the thought of being relevant. Hell she probably made this thread because the ""controversy"" is good for her narrative.
>>52568587
>grr i need to police other people's personalities
>>52568587
...as if this tranny degenerate could possibly know right from wrong.
You can't let these faggots define your morality.
You know what social justice is?
Social justice is conducting a witch hunt for SJWs and burning them publicly.
Videogames are fighting this cancer.
Comics and sci-fi authors are starting to.
Why can't tech defeat sjws.
>>52568676
too beta
I'm on their side
>>52568084
>Our community prides itself on niceness.
>What a code of conduct does is define what we mean by nice.
No. No no no no no no no. NO!
>we pledge to respect all contributors regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or other factors
>we are prepared to follow through on these values with action when and if an incident arises
So, you'll respect everyone only as long as they have the exact same opinions as you and don't say anything that might hurt your fragile feelings or be interpreted in the wrong way. You're using a warped sense of "justice" to restrict other people's freedom of speech (which is protected by the 1st amendment in burgerland even).
I hate this shit so much...
>>52568665
I won't personally take part in this but I'll furiously masturbate to the videos once they hit liveleak.
Daily reminder shitlords
whilst i don't think that nagging people about codes of conduct represents a major contribution to the open-source community
the actual code of conduct itself is short and reasonably common sense, and there's nothing wrong with having it
i'm not sure why you're concerned, especially about ruby, because ruby wouldn't be worth saving, even if it were under threat somehow
>>52568084
Was thinking of using ruby for another project, i'm having second thoughts now.
>>52568498
Pro tip:
If someone call themselves transgender and try to look like a woman then it's a man and vice versa. That guy is a man and cross dresser
Poor bastards. Their project will be soiled.
I do sympathize with them.
>>52568716
Where is this from?
Fuck off, gamergaters.
>>52568780
I think tumblr
>>52568084
Why do they have to ruin everything? Goddamn, they went for videogames, now they're ruining our last safe haven.
>>52568690
Fuck authoritarian.
>>52568782
Nice try randi.
>>52568084
People like this women are the reason white people can't get into Harvard anymore
>>52568760
>the audiophile has an image problem
Statement of the century.
>>52568826
Or maybe it's my spelling, SHIT
what happens if I want to contribute but I'm part of whatever "they" think is the "majority"
>https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004
>https://bugs.
>bugs
Stop giving them attention. Kick them out of your projects and lock down comments to the public so they don't have any platform to harass you in the first place.
I just avoid social networking sites, and I never have to deal with these individuals.
>>52568663
The /pol/-/v/-GamerGate crowd is just as bad. You're just opposite sides of the same coin. Someone being transgender or gay has nothing to do with social justice. Just because "social justice warriors" try to piggyback civil rights movements doesn't mean they're actually in league with them. NAMBLA tried to pull the same shit and muscle in on gay rights movements a couple of decades ago, and they were promptly BTFO. It's the same ordeal with social justice today.
>>52568877
That's where your rights end, whiteboi.
Luckily liberal-arts crazy women are too retarded to do real electronics. They have their own 'creative' zone with LEDs and fucking Arduinos.
Open source and community projects are almost non-existent here so stuff like this doesn't happen, because they can't be contributor in a similar easy way as Github projects. Also EEs are a bit more aggressive when it comes to stupid unnecessary shit.
It's only natural that pretty much only client/front-end web development and big commercial companies that want a development community as wide as possible are affected by this shit.
Just don't care and let them do their shit, in the end it doesn't matter, it is not like they force you a way of development/designing and in most professional conversations you'll never touch any subject that these codes cover.
>>52568826
Nah, it is because American education sucks. Sure you have nice private universities like Harvard, but most high schools or colleges just simply suck. That's why most of these private universities get their students from somewhere else.
>>52568468
>>52568519
The answer is to raise a counter-voice, you don't need to talk to them directly. Speak to the people they are speaking to instead.
>>52568084
[laughing in japanese]
>>52568665
kek.
>>52568084
>>52568084
>>52568084
>>52568084
>>52568084
I just went through her GitHub commits. 95% CODE OF CONDUCT READMES TO PROJECTS ;^)))))
5% minor tiny insignificant bug fixes.
Literally disgusting. Her resume says she has 20 YEARS experience coding, and I see SO little to show for it everywhere.
Her Twitter is non-sense garble complaining about SJW impersonations and hate-speech mitigation.
Ugh, next...
>>52568834
stop your whining
some dev acted like an asshole on twitter and got criticized for it
'safety', 'welcoming' and 'respect' includes not telling people that their disabilities are imaginary, and furthermore a code of conduct doesn't limit you to not having those opinions, it just means you should use your brain before you run your mouth on twitter
victim complex outta ten
>SJWs Trying to Take Over Ruby
This happened like 10 years ago. If you're going to spam /pol/ shit all over at least keep it fresh.
>>52569085
>Ugh, next...
Exactly. `Her` opinion is worthless.
and here we go. another project down the being-nice-is-more-important-than-technology-drain.
god i'm glad linus doesn't give a fuck.
these 'codes of conduct', ehmke's especially, turn software projects into sympathy races. and what's even worse, she's claiming that open source is a political movement when it's clearly not - go join RMS, that's where the politics is, and leave the rest of the world in peace with your shit. this is going to slow us down instead of helping us...
by the way, another example why web development is just the shittiest of communities. where else would shit like this originate? web devs aren't programmers, they're people who think it's cool to "make apps".
>4chan is full of SJW's
what happened
>>52569097
It's already not allowed to insult people or troll on forums in general, this shitty covenant goes a step further. Mods already ban people for being shitters and dickheads. What she wants is for people to be banned for what they do in their private lives and for their private thoughts which she or her goons might dig up somewhere. It's the thought police.
>>52569085
>two decades of experience in web development
>web development
>technology
pick one
>>52568760
The only "code of conduct" needed for open source projects is:
"Comment your shit".
>>52569097
>one person does something i don't like
>everyone must now act the way i like
This is what it comes down to. A minority of people saying stuff that offends a minority of people that causes the offended minority to want to police the majority.
>>52569124
Millennials.
California.
memes.
>>52569124
>what happened
Everything fine until shortly after you showed up.
>>52569124
2014 happened
>>52568665
I would love to do that
>>52569124
Juden
>>52569180
>>52569203
Made me laugh a bit.
>>52569124
Your neuroleptics wore off and confirmation bias and bad faith readings of other people's comments is driving you to see new enemies and hostile acts taking new and increasingly petty forms, and the walls are closing in on you and social justice activists leer at you from every corner of your mind, waiting to pounce and chop your balls off and assign you new pronouns.
But it's not just you whose eyes have been opened; your stalwart band of ragtag allies and fellow truth-seekers await you here:
>>>/pol/
Go forward anon, only you can stave off this horror and fight the good fight for the rest of us. Just please keep it on your containment board, /g/ is too blue-pilled and weak-minded to understand the gravity of your, nay, OUR work on their behalf.
>>52569272
fag
>most of the accounts giving support to the idea were either made within the last month or had never submitted a bug or posted before
I want off this fucking ride
This is why Linus will always remain based in my eyes. Doesn't give a single fuck about the politics, only the code. As it should be.
>>52569097
>disabilities are imaginary
Being born with a penis is not a disability.
>>52569272
This isn't as clever and funny as you think it is, but feel free to keep posting because this imageboard doesn't draw arbitrary lines in the sand about what can and can't be discussed.
>>52569176
in the futuristic year of 2016, saying 'i don't think trans people are real' is slightly below saying 'i think black people are inferior'.
it's not like it's a law. it's a voluntary, non-legally-binding agreement on some people's projects that they can choose whether they implement. you have a strange definition of 'police the majority'
>>52569153
twitter is not someone's 'private thoughts'. it's their public opinions\persona. not even close to thought police. you should re-read 1984 if you're interested in using that phrase
Found the fedora-tipping white knight.
>>52569344
Linus will be taken down sooner or later.
SJWs are waiting for an opportunity to be alone in the same room as him to accuse him of sexual assault to replace him with an SJW-friendly figurehead.
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/11/04/feminists-are-trying-to-frame-linus-torvalds-for-sexual-assault-claims-open-source-industry-veteran/
>>52569369
Trans people are retarded. They're real. Really mentally ill. There is a reason so many kill themselves after having their surgeries done and it isn't "le cis patriarchy."
What is love?
>>52569376
I don't disagree with his last statement. Using the word SJW is a super big red flag.
>>52569425
Baby don't hurt me
>>52569429
Don't hurt me.
>>52569449
No more.
>>52569449
No more
>>52568676
Because there is political pressure on the companies because they make so much money. It won't be enough until people unable and unwilling to learn coding the correct way are able to get jobs coding.
It's not about anything but easy money. They see coding as sitting in a cubicle and making big paychecks. They expect it to be html and then blame schools that they aren't teaching them in context they'll understand.
Tech giants will bend over and we will all be hindered by it.
This is the only board on the site where you can even start to talk about this and it won't 404 immediately, but it will still 404.
>>52569425
love - 2D game development framework based on Lua and OpenGL
>>52569369
Implying that the majority opinion must be morally correct...
>>52569272
Your neuroleptics wore off and confirmation bias and bad faith readings of other people's comments is driving you to see new enemies and hostile acts taking new and increasingly petty forms, and the walls are closing in on you and social justice activists leer at you from every corner of your mind, waiting to pounce and chop your balls off and assign you new pronouns.
But it's not just you whose eyes have been opened; your stalwart band of ragtag allies and fellow truth-seekers await you here:
>>>/hm/
Go forward anon, only you can stave off this horror and fight the good fight for the rest of us. Just please keep it on your containment board, /g/ is too blue-pilled and weak-minded to understand the gravity of your, nay, OUR work on their behalf.
>>52569376
>and 4chan
That is uncalled for.
We are all equal anons here. Nice and free.
>>52569541
They wouldn't know equality if it punched them in the face.
>>52569428
what isn't a red flag these days?
people are too fucking sensitive these days
Thankfully I have enough sense to know none of this applies outside of the echo chambers of the internet.
Go outside.
None of this shit matters outside of very concentrated safe spaces on university campuses.
>>52569428
>super big
Oh god, shut the the fuck up
>>52569272
I can't be bothered to read your post, but it looks autistic, kill yourself
How bad is PostgreSQL's CoC?
>>52569376
>absence of evidence of their absence
Top kek. As if these people ever shut the fuck up.
>>52568808
No one likes ruby
lol at all these angry shitlords sperging out over the same fat tranny spamming her CoC for the 50th time.
ablooblo0obloo le sjws are taking over xD
>>52569085
>her
thankfully I mainly use C and Perl, SJWs probably don't care about either of those.
not that I use github anyway, so SJWs don't affect me.
>>52569856
No one would even use the shit if it wasn't for Twitter.
>>52569272
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I WANT TO FUCKING GENOCIDE ALL SJW'S.
WHY MUST THEY DESTROY EVERYTHING I ENJOY?
What would this CoC even do? Someone give me the tl;dr.
>>52569301
>>52569367
>>52569500
>>52569749
>>52570347
suck my fucking cock right now
>>52570429
It'll put a small handful of tumblr newspeak into some github wiki page no one will ever read outside of 4chan.
>>52570447
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>>52568468
It's been tried...
>>52568498
i think the thing i hate the most about these weird twitter SJW freaks is all these fucking m2f trans people talking about "womens issues". like, look, im sorry man, youre not a woman. youre a trans person. ill call you "she/her" and whatever to be polite, but you straight up are not a woman. focus on trans issues, at least those are relevant to you, but whenever someone that was born a man starts trying to be a "womens rights advocate" and all this shit its like oh my god, shut up already
>>52568084
>tfw open source survived decades of attacks by proprietary software only to die at the hands of a vocal minority of trannies and faggots
Very sad. I'll never contribute to any project with a "code of conduct" because I expect to be treated like an adult who can make my own decisions.
The creator of Ruby isn't some western white knight beta bitch. The Ruby community has always been full of hipster SJW types, but the main project itself is not. He won't stand for this.
>>52569428
>super big red flag.
You prefer super big black bulls, don't you?
>>52569491
well, actually i wasn't implying it was correct, only that it provokes a very bad reaction and that most people are sensible enough not to do it
if you'd like to get into 'correctness' then pick up a basic psychology book (or look online) and get reading. that's what i did. same goes for >>52569414.
what was the outcome of opalgate? was the dude removed?
As propriatary software user, it is quite satisfying seeing defunct open source project like Ruby get eroded by the SJW community. This would never happen in business. Yet another proof that paid-for software is better than free: you really do get what you paid for.
>>52570803
>>52568498
It's always a tranny, wtf man
>>52570579
Actual feminists agree with you there.
Across the web an academia, women who speak out for women are being silenced in favor of creepy men in wigs who have politicized their autogynephilia.
>SJWs here ridiculizing and ganging up on anyone that doesn't agree with them
>thinking anyone here care about them
>thinking anyone here doesn't know where they come from or what are they trying to accomplish
How does it feel to be a complete and utter failure in life? Is this your maximum representation? To write bullshit to people who don't give a shit about you, and advocating for people who don't know you and doesn't even care to know you? This is your max representation, to be someone who is ignored, someone nobody will cry for at his/her funeral(if there's even a funeral for you, I don't think people would bother).
>>52570878
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
>>52570878
>SJWs here
There aren't any.
Male privilege is being socialized as a male your entire life, being encouraged to use computers, and then arbitrarily declaring yourself a woman and reaping the benefits of minority status in the tech world
>>52570947
Male privilege is having a mental disorder?
>>52570927
Lol nope sorry mate. I'm pretty accomplished myself. Look, I posted a pornstar! Time to run away.
>>52570939
You haven't read the whole thread then.
>>52570988
Male privilege is society treating your sexual fetish as a valid "identity."
>>52570947
>you will never utilize your male privilege to oppress women across the world for financial gain, before becoming a cute loli and reaping the myriad benefits
why live
>>52571006
real transsexuals hate it when you fetishize them as girls with dicks
remember, they believe they're real women
they also hate crossdressers because they're literally doing it as a fetish
>>52571005
I read the whole thing, unfortunately.
>>52571005
i just wanted to let you know that you come across as someone who is extremely insecure. no offence meant
Just a reminder that using the acronym "CoC" is phallic, problematic, and supports the patriarchy.
>>52571069
>le paranoid /pol/man maymay
'k
>>52571115
You suck at reading people. Have another.
>>52571042
>remember, they believe they're real women
Yeah but they're not.
The way society steps around this is absurd.
I think it's because most people have trannies and homos mentally filed away in the same cabinet. And if the myopic libertarianism that defines our generation holds that faggots can get married, then why can't men be girls too? They ain't hurtin nobody!
The average American idiot can realize that they're two completely different phenomena with varying implications.
None of this bullshit has taken root in my country, so I almost want it to continue in the West. You people kind of deserve it at this point for being so naive.
>>52570579
>>52570875
>being a woman is so horrible yet I decided to throw away all my male privilege to become one
>>52571137
There's actual medical evidence to support the existence of transgenderism. No amount of your feelings will change this. A lot of them also hate SJWs, so don't paint faggots all under the same brush.
>>52571169
Post it
Some other retard mouthed off about this shit recently and got BTFO
>>52571131
if you weren't insecure you wouldn't even feel the need to respond to an obvious troll such as myself
>>52571169
There's also actual medical evidence that when given doses of 20mg of a specific neurological chemical, any desire to cross dress or change gender disappears.
Get with the times.
>>52571181
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289
http://press.endocrine.org/doi/abs/10.1210/jcem.85.5.6564
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826131
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15724806
>>52571224
What are you talking about exactly?
>>52571165
But that's precisely the point of 2nd wave feminists: transbros don't part with their male socialization, nor do they have to worry about any of the qualities of female physiology like menstruation and pregnancy. They just get to live out their life-as-Barbie sexual fantasy.
So when women get together and try to influence public policy for their benefit, it's a huge cockslap across the face to have a mouthy dude in a dress start asking them "what are you doing for women with penises!?"
>>52571131
>le paranoid /pol/man maymay
That was probably me. If you can't grasp that there's a middle ground between SJWs and the /pol/lacks who spend all day hunting down random github posts from feminists to get buttflustered over and starting a new 100 spergout on /g/ each time, you're the type of person it was directed toward.
I recognize this guy's avatar from other threads people have made here; it's same person who spams these requests everywhere and he even alludes to that in his comment. Do we really need a new thread every time he asks someone to post his dumb manifesto. Or maybe we should ask the mods for a new board so we can follow him around everywhere on the Internet so everyone can stay posted?
>>52571216
>le troll maymay
>I was just pretending
Ayyy. I ran out of sfw porn tho. I guess no more "evil" women objectification.
>>52571260
there, you did it again. what have you got to prove?
>>52571169
>le "female brain" theory
There's cursory "actual evidence" for any wacko, regressive theory you're trying to hawk, especially if it's a meme du jour. I could point you to "actual evidence" that global warming is a myth, but I know you're not that dumb.
The idea that gender roles are hardwired into one's brain chemistry is so ridiculous I don't know where to begin.
>>52571323
>The idea that gender roles are hardwired into one's brain chemistry
I literally never made this claim.
>>52571333
Tell me then, how can any one tranny medically "feel like a woman?"
What does a woman "feel like," without resorting to socially-defined tropes of femininity?
>>52571333
The papers you posted literally claim that the brains of trannies are biologically similar to that of their chosen gender
>>52571352
I have no idea, but if you like at the studies linked here >>52571244 you can see notable differences in certain areas of the brain.
>>52571169
There is medical evidence that body integrity identity disorder exists. So if someone pretends that they don't have legs and you don't act like they don't have them you are being *ist, fucking shitlord.
>>52571363
That doesn't necessarily imply gender roles.
>>52571352
they hate their penis and wish they could have babies
>>52571442
That sounds like body integrity disorder.
>>52571456
Body dysmorphic disorder is probably more accurate, but yes it's similar.
I want gamergate to leave
>>52568084
>cancer spreading
This boils down to them trying to ban criticism and bully people under the disguise of "friendliness"
The people passively supporting this disease are bad too.
They are like that girl screaming "stop fighting you two!" While one guy is is being beaten to a pulp without pulp without even fighting back.
>>52568716
Sums up their goal
>>52571474
And yet the "cure" for trannies is allowing them to do the chemical equivalent of cutting off their legs.
We like to look back on medicine in the past and say "lol look at them putting leeches on their bodies what a bunch of retards," but in some ways we're no better today.
>>52571573
It's not a cure. It's a treatment, and it's effective. Have you come up with anything better?
>>52568716
It's amazing to think that in today's climate, all it would take for this post to be considered misogynistic is replacing all the "we" with "they".
>>52571589
If this treatment is so effective, then why do so many commit suicide?
>>52571589
A better treatment has existed since at least the late 60s. It's called "being ok with who you are."
Kind of macabre that forty years ago, the avant-garde of progressive thought was "there's nothing inherently masculine or feminine in the way we talk, the clothes we wear, or the toys our children play with; all of these expectations are socially-constructed fluff that we'd do well to get rid of."
Now it's "well I know I've always been a woman. Ever since I was a child I was attracted to the color pink, dolls, and things like that. I will now proceed to bombard my body with hormones to wrench it into the mould of femininity."
It's regressive and tragic. Not only for the individual suckered in by it, but for our general society's outlook on sex and gender.
My problem with CoCs is that their sole purpose is not to create a welcoming community; It's to create a hostile community. They want to create projects where it effectively becomes a violation to be conservative. It doesn't matter if you treat or fellow developers and coworkers with respect. It doesn't matter if you can look beyond your own prejudices for the sake of the project. If you hold those prejudices at all, even in private, you will suffer their wrath. They want open source to be a "liberals only" space.
And if anyone thinks this is conspiracy theory garbage, it has already happened. Brendan Eich was kicked out of the company he helped create all because he dared to disagree with liberals. Nobody had a problem with Eich before. In fact, it wasn't until years later did anyone discover his donation for Proposition 8.
If CoCs are allowed to continue and developers don't tow the SJW line, they risk losing their career, getting slammed in the media, facing harassment and death threats from liberals (because it's not harassment when they do it), and suffering financially.
>>52571696
Societal factors and also many start hormones too late. But there is a documented improvement in their lives.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15842032
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20461468
>>52571713
>A better treatment has existed since at least the late 60s. It's called "being ok with who you are."
Sorry, but this is complaint nonsense and contradicts biology. What is wrong with choosing to modify your body with hormones? People deserve to have bodily autonomy.
>>52571765
>What is wrong with choosing to modify your body with hormones? People deserve to have bodily autonomy.
You're free to do whatever you want with your own body, the problem is that many people encourage and accept it.
>Societal factors and also many start hormones too late. But there is a documented improvement in their lives.
Do you honestly believe that tranny degenerates in 40 years time will be looking back on their lives and saying "Yeah, I definitely made the right choice"? Society has fucking nothing to do with the realization you make later on that you willingly chopped off your own dick because you believed you were mentally the other gender.
>>52571765
>contradicts biology
You're right. Women are like, the fairer sex *tee hee*
We're just naturally wired this way!
And any boy who shows the slightest interest in sewing dresses or baking cakes must actually be a woman as well. This is truly progress at work!
>What is wrong with choosing to modify your body with hormones?
*Your* body.
Should be completely illegal for parents to do this to their children.
If your autogynephilia is that strong, then you have to wait until you're 18 to live out your misogynistic fetish. And even then, don't think it gives you license to barge into women's spaces.
>>52571814
>Do you honestly believe that tranny degenerates in 40 years time will be looking back on their lives and saying "Yeah, I definitely made the right choice"?
Yes. One of the studies I linked was a 5 year follow up. It sounds more like the existence of transgender people hurts your feelings for some reason.
>>52571832
They don't just hand out meds to any kid who signs up. You have to get an actual diagnosis by a professional.
>>52571885
Being diagnosed by a "gender therapist" is like getting "medical" marijuana from a dispensary. It's the camel's nose under the tent. They're both professional yes-men, not objective parties trying to steer you in the right direction.
"Coraline" strikes again.
How to deal with this guy:
https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941
Ruby should do the exact same as the opal dev here
>>52571915
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>52571923
>The avatar of every pro-tranny comment in that thread
Oh god the meme is real.
>>52571923
>https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941
Yow, that "meh" dude's posts are cringe-worthy.
He has the edgy anonymous avatar and everything.
The worst thing about this is that if you say you couldn't be bothered or don't want the baggage that comes with this you'll be put on a fucking stake.
>>52568993
Not
>raughing in moonrunes
You fucked up
>>52571945
Yes. I encourage you to read gender-critical feminist literature where the problem with the medicalization of ordinary human behavior is well-documented.
>>52571885
>Yes. One of the studies I linked was a 5 year follow up.
So how did this study work? Analyze the mental health of a person at the point of considering surgical treatment (extremely unstable) and then comparing it to their mental health 5 years later? These people just need proper advice, counseling and experience.
Also, 5 years is not nearly enough to properly analyze their mental health cycle. You're an absolute fucking idiot if you think they'd be happy with their decision once they hit 40-50+, if they even make it that far.
>It sounds more like the existence of transgender people hurts your feelings for some reason.
Social progressiveness has gone too far, people who encourage acceptance for all have created a society which cannot educate people properly. Transgenderism is degeneracy and bodily mutilation, yet I can't say that in the public without being berated to hell and back and being kicked out of all my existing circles.
>for some reason.
Is it really that odd for someone to be concerned with the direction that society is heading in?
>>52572038
はははははははは
>>52572070
>Transgenderism is degeneracy and bodily mutilation
Why?
How is this assertion based in anything but shitty, pointless prejudice?
>>52572046
>gender-critical feminist literature
Are you trolling me? Are you one of those wackos that think gender is a social construct or some bullshit?
>>52572070
Ridiculous. Transgenderism is an extreme minority in society. The world is not going to hell just because there's some people that modify their appearance to look like the other gender. You are insanely obsessed over something that has no negative impact on you.
>Also, 5 years is not nearly enough to properly analyze their mental health cycle. You're an absolute fucking idiot if you think they'd be happy with their decision once they hit 40-50+, if they even make it that far.
It's already been documented to have positive results, and there's no reason why that would change.
>>52572114
>how is transgenderism bodily mutilation?
Are you being serious? Are you really fucking suggesting it isn't?
>>52572115
>Are you one of those wackos that think gender is a social construct or some bullshit?
As somebody who was born a woman and continues to go about life as one, I don't just have to think it. I know it.
I've gotten used to people like you. Those with the unassailable belief that they're on the "right side of history" who simultaneously perpetuate a ridiculous dehumanizing view of womanhood. If nothing else, I can take solace in the fact that you probably won't live past 40.
>>52571746
The problem with this line of thinking is that it legitimizes the idea that anyone should still be against gays having civil unions.
What the fuck do you care what 2 people do?
It doesn't affect you.
>>52572070
Tons of trans people keep the sex organs they have, probably most do
are you saying it's not possible for someone's brain to be wired like the opposite gender?
>>52572159
Why would it be?
There's literally no reason.
>>52572159
FTM's might have to chop off their breasts so technically yes on that count.
You're obviously pretty ignorant, but SRS (male to female) doesn't chop off your dick. They actually invert the penile tissue and use it to construct the vagina. So technically, no mutilation.
>>52572167
Yeah that's nice.
The studies I've posted earlier already demonstrate differences in brain structure between men and women. I have no idea what "dehumanzing view of womanhood" I am guilty of perpetuating is, but there certainly is a mental, biological difference between genders and the existence of transgender people supports this fact. You can't deny biology.
>>52572187
>They actually invert the penile tissue and use it to construct the vagina. So technically, no mutilation.
Right, because killing off all nerve endings in your dick and then shoving your it so far in your body to resemble a vagina isn't mutilation.
Kill yourself you subhuman trash.
>>52572205
>muh feelings don't trigger me
Literally no better than SJWs
>>52572210
>Literally no better than SJWs
Except I'm on the side which doesn't teach people that it's okay to mutilate their own body and dress in the opposite gender's clothing.
>>52568793
>>52568648
SHIT LIKE THIS JUST FUCKKING MAKES ME MAD WE MEN DONT CRY WHEN SLUTS DOMINATE FIELDS LIKE KNITTING AND FLORAL ARRANGEMENTS SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DISTURBING THE PEACE IN OUR WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY BANTER AND AUDIOPHILIA FUCK YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN AN IRRITATING MOIST HOLE FUCK OFFFFF
>>52572230
>dress in the opposite gender's clothing.
Why would this be a problem?
>>52572187
>no mutilation
Yeah, that's totally why trannies have to shove a special medical rod into their new fake vagina every night to prevent their new hole from healing itself shut.
Because it's literally a wound and the body desparately trying to undo the damage you did.
>>52570305
Even Twitter doesn't use that shit.
They did for ~6 months at the start, then they ported it because the Ruby code was incapable of handling the volume of users and posts.
>>52572201
Next you'll be showing me negroid skull sizes.
>>52568084
They can have it.
>>52572240
it's sexual appropriation
>>52572205
>>52572230
Are you seriously suggesting that any surgical modification of the body is mutilation?
What about appendectomies or amputations?
How to avoid people like this:
Write in a real language like C and Lisp.
It's that simple.
You bring it upon yourself by using meme technology.
>>52572268
Clothes don't belong to genders.
>>52572254
A nice false equivalency and avoidance of the facts.
>>52572281
Then why do you get funny looks when you're buying women's clothes for yourself?
>>52572274
Unnecessary, risky surgery is indeed medical mutilation.
It's an expression of socially-induced self-hatred, not a life-saving operation.
>>52572281
Then why do you feel the need to take hormones before wearing a dress, when just wearing the dress should suffice?
>>52572274
>appendectomies
A procedure done in cases where the appendicitis needs to be removed, it is mutilation of the body, but a necessary one for the patient's health.
>amputations
Yes, mutilation.
There's a difference between surgery which mutilates your body because of REAL health problems and surgery which mutilates your body because you want a fake vagina.
>>52572274
mutilation implies severe damage to the body
letting your appendix burst can cause severe damage to your body, so you remove it
by stuffing your penis inside of you and creating a fake vagina, you're literally mutilating your genitals so they can no longer work as intended because you believe you're a woman trapped in a man's body
>>52572318
HRT already nukes your penis function idiot.
>>52572316
>gender dysphoria is not a medical problem recognized by licensed professionals because it hurts my feelings
>>52572326
>It's not mutilation because my dick was never even working in the first place!
>>52572300
Why do you think sexual reassignment surgery is unnecessary? Just because you don't want it doesn't mean it couldn't help someone else.
>>52572316
So if mutilating oneself can improve one's life, why is it bad that SRS "mutilates" someone?
>>52572232
Because some faggets did hurt their fields of Floral Arrangements.
Remember: This all started because we allowed faggots to exist.
>>52572326
That isn't guaranteed.
Also, who says HRT isn't body mutilation?
You're literally taking decades off your life when you induce a hormonal imbalance for vanity reasons.
>>52572347
>severe damage
>to an organ that doesn't work
>>52572357
>You're literally taking decades off your life
False. And that's not even taking to trannies killing themselves if they don't get hormones.
>>52572291
Because people are marketed to well.
>>52572372
taking in account trannies*
>>52571923
>This is why people say the tech industry is unwelcoming to diversities: unless @elia is removed from the project, I cannot learn Ruby, and thus can't get a job in Ruby development.
I can't even
>>52572381
There's a reason men don't wear dresses and high heels anymore.
They're impractical as hell.
Women aren't known for performing physical labor so they can get away with it.
>>52572350
Because the way you measure improvement is subjective.
A surgical procedure, such as an appendectomy, is done because the patient has a real medical condition, without treatment it'll cause physical problems and possibly death.
SRS on the other hand? A procedure for people who have absolutely zero physical problems, it's all mental. "Improvement" in this case is completely subjective.
>>52572421
>"Improvement" in this case is completely subjective.
But again, it is documented and perfectly valid.
>>52572417
I'm sure sitting in front of a monitor is hard manual labor
I think the problem is hypersexualization in modern society. Sexuality has become a principal subject of discussion surpassing even politics. Massive media provides the space to easily transmit opposite opinions witch before the actual internet were not openly exposed.
Most people is so focused on individualism they cannot entail duplex conversation. Only that matters is my opinion and by going against you are harassing me. That is not how discussions should work.
Another corncern are the groups supporting opinions and preferences with oppressive force, harassment and public humilliation.
Point blank, there are a lot of 40+ yr old pervs who decide to transition for sexual gratification, then immediately turn into rabid SJ trolls. It's a common thread. For the entire 20+ prior years of their career they ignored, or actively shut out actual trans people and any other marginalized group. Throw on a wig and suddenly THEY are leading discussions on "inclusion" (no privilege there!). Instead of undoing some of that 20+ yrs of damage they decide to cause more.
There are a ton of young trans people who were rejected by their families, can't get jobs. Is any of the SJ trolls mentoring them or steering them into development in any way? No, and in fact what they're doing makes it HARDER for trans to get a foothold. People will avoid you if they think you're going to bring all sorts of drama and unrelated personal issues into every project you're a part of.
The truth is, if you're a 40+ year old developer you have enough wealth and credibility to insulate you from any oppression. You're just inserting yourself into minorities problems. They get none of the benefits of your little crusade, all of the blame. This is not about fostering a tolerant environment. If it was, the CoC would just be something terse and limited to scope of project (that would be awesome, I'd fully support it and now it looks like that's prob going to happen). It's about personally empowering a few people.
If you have any doubt about that, they're now attacking Matz and demanding he be stripped of power. Matz is a fucking Mormon BTW. Problematic as hell! His toxic ideology is going to drive away all us poor trannies who are triggered by our own shadows.
>>52572350
And injecting your body full of silicone can "help" you if you're an actual woman with low self-esteem.
But the fact that people have to resort to such measures speaks to a broader problem of the way society handles sexuality.
Temporary fixes borne of self-hatred are not sustainable.
>>52572450
Yes because gender dysphoria is completely due to society and has zero basis in biology. Ah if only we knew better and were as enlightened as you.
>>52568947
Oh real software development. Woman can't into complex topics so actual software development is safe for now
>>52572467
>>52572450
>>52572445
>>52572442
can we keep this gay retarded transfag shit to /pol/ or /b/ or some other shit? It has nothing to do with technology. Fuck off of /g/ I came here to get away from that stuff.
>>52572494
This whole thread is /pol/ from the getgo. It's inevitable given that the person behind this is a crazy tranny.
>>52572445
Hit the nail on the head.
Most older trannies have histories of criminality, drug addiction, and abuse (where they were the perpetrator). Transitioning allows them to simultaneously gratify themselves sexually, preserve the power dynamic they benefit from, and paint themselves in a more positive light when they'd just be considered no-good deadbeat creeps otherwise.
The most recent example of this being the 56 year yo man living as a "6 year old girl" who sure enough had previously put his wife and children through hell on earth before he decided to live out his fetish.
>>52572494
Then hide the thread, idiot
Oh sorry that wouldn't feed your little rage boner would it:)
>>52572512
no like i dont mind discussions about social justice warriors in the technology and computing field, but i get annoyed when it degenerates into random sexual transfag shit that has very little relevance. both sides are just always gonna be butthurt about something there is nothing to argue about lol.
>>52572494
You're free to "just care about code," but the rest of the world isn't going to stop turning for you. These people will continue to make inroads on your profession unless dealt with.
>>52572527
i dont mind the thread i mind the off topic discussion of transfags and other retarded shit.
>>52572538
Thank god i'm not white.
None of this shit affects me in the slightest.
>>52572528
Oh well it is pretty much my fault that the thread derailed into tranny bullshit.
I dunno; bitching about SJWs has gotten old for me. They're all crazy nutcases; there's not much else to say.
I can speak Japanese.
Sum the story up for me and I'll send an email to the Japanese mods explaining how the situation of the sjws are in the west.
>>52572548
Oh how naive you are.
Being a tranny automagically absolves white men of all privilege and responsibility. They're free to tell you what to do because they decided to put on a wig one day.
>>52572538
Not really.
This shit only affect touchy-feely people and organisations.
Does IBM give 2 shits about this?
Does Intel give 2 shits about this?
Does NSA give 2 shits about this?
No, because they're real organisations getting real work done.
In the real world, this shit doesn't matter, no matter how much you think it does.
>bbut it's in muh college campus
College/Universities have always been hives of shit, because they aren't attached to the real world.
Again, once you move out of fantasy land and into real life, you'll find these issues don't even matter.
>bbut it's on muh TV, muh broose jenny, etc
TV and Film land is also fantasy land, do you think anyone in hollywood actually understands how the REAL world works, not the fake on camera for jewish masters world works?
>>52572569
lol
this lady or man i dont even know what she is annoys me though
anybody tried to dox her before? how old is she exactly?
>>52568084
why is gender/race/age/interests remotely relevant to code contributions.
If the code is shit, people should tell you it's shit because then you know and can either cry like a bitch about it or get back in front of your PC and fix it.
Nobody has learned anything valuable or lasting by somebody always being nice to them.
You can see this where a lot of kids with nice parents who never disciplined their kids and always had the "everyone wins" attitude. The kids are 99% stuck up fucking bastards who expect to get acknowledged in society without having to work for it.
No, fuck these cunts and fuck this shit. Why can't we go back to being anonymous online and the name I contribute code under is [email protected] and nobody knows who i am. But the code is good and of value
>>52572585
this, you quickly get shut down if you start acting like a retard. Nobody has time for it.
>>52572107
shit beard/10
it was only inevitable that ruby would fail
>>52572640
>shut down
I wonder who could be behind this post?
Where do these SJW people hang out?
>>52573075
4chan
>>52573075
tumblr
>>52572519
A lot of us are fed up with having those whacko's represent us, but you can't say any of this in polite company.
>>52573075
Wal-mart
>>52573075
myspace
>>52573075
final fantasy forums
redditors on /qa/ have gone crying to the "mods" behind your back about this thread.
>>>/qa/418877
>>52573316
you guys do realize that 4chan is full of these people?
i bet you at least 1 person sent them a lonk to this thread.
>>52568215
I've been following the debate on PHP internals, Paul M Jones has basically made himself look like an idiot the whole time, and is probably the main reason PHP will be adopting a CoC now.
>>52568663
Oh, I'm sure your moral compass is completely fine.
Don't kid yourself-- you are no better. You think killing people in the streets is progress, you're just a maladjusted retard.
>>52569428
"Us and them" approaches are complete cancer, we know this now, eventually the internet will mature to it, don't be apologetic towards people who think like this.
>>52569428
>>52569272
>>52569124
It's not full of SJWs. I used to be on /pol/, fuck I was on /n/ and /new/.
I just eventually stopped giving a fuck. Most of the shit you people bitch about doesn't affect me. When you grow up, you tend to worry more about your immediate situation, and realize waiting for "the happening xD" and other SJW bullshit just doesn't matter.
>>52573533
im not apologetic to them but you have to admit its a bad idea to attach anything sjw related to your real identity
i never even use that word outside of 4chan, there is nothing good that can come from it
>>52573523
People who use the term "moral compass"
>>52571005
>people who disagree with me are SJWs
You and SJWs have a LOT in common.
>>52573554
Yeah it's dumb, but it sounds like you're excusing their narrow-minded way of discussing things. Don't excuse it! People on the internet need to learn how to approach a subject critically.
>>52573565
And what would you call it, you dumb fucking nigger?
>>52568766
Eh, the way I see it, if they undergo hormone replacement therapy and they've been doing it for long enough that they've significantly changed, then I'm willing to entertain the idea that they're the other sex, especially if they undergo surgery on their genitals.
I refuse to call cross dressers anything else but what they are, though.
Women should be subservient to their fathers until released upon to their husbands.
There they should be creatures of the home and family.
This would solve many of the western world's problems.
>>52568906
>>52573538
>>52573538
>i can't come up with an argument so I post images lol
neo-/pol/ is such a shame, what a bunch of spineless faggots you are
>>52573656
Honestly, I don't think you're entirely wrong. Women have literally evolved to be specialised in such roles, it's dangerous to suggest that they can all be raised to fill the same roles as men.
If women want to do what men do let them prove it the hard way, none of this special consideration nonsense feminazis are always campaigning for.
>>52573681
The image is saying that there is no argument in "BUT "ANTI-SJWS" ARE JUST AS BAD" because it's a non-sequiter and a strawman.
