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Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try Linux, you can:
1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)
Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.
Resources:
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https://www.codecademy.com/en/courses/learn-the-command-line
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux
Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software
Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing
A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript
Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/
IRC No one uses:
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Old thread?
>>52536859
No, this is the new thread.
>>52536874
Or is it?
Also, any experiences with i3-gaps people could share? I'm using gapless i3 at the moment.
>>52536814
> implying I get invited to parties anyway
>>52537046
But Anon-kun. :'^(
>>52537128
I'd go if they'd let me, Misaki-chan.
> abrupt text-based captcha
I like this development.
>>52537356
I honestly miss the text captchas at this point.
I fucking hate how the current one makes me do it twice.
>>52537384
Go to options and enable legacy captcha, then you get house numbers. No need to thank me.
>>52537576
Thank you so much.
So as a total newb I'm looking at mint to start. Ubuntu look noob friendly too according to wiki. What are the major pros and cons of Ubuntu vs mint
>>52537576
Won't work for me, oddly enough.
Still the same captchas as always.
I've got Fedora Sever 23 running Plex for my home and I've been having issues.
Unless I have the firewall completely disabled, I cannot connect to the samba share. I have all of the ports for CIFS/SMB opened, but I cannot seem to connect.
I am using OSX on my desktop, so this may be what's causing it. I'm installing Windows and Linux in separate VMs to see if this is the case.
Do you anons have any ideas as to why this is happening? I appreciate any advice.
>>52537576
My bad, I thought the settings saved themselves automatically. Thanks for the tip. :^)
>>52537644
If you're coming from windows you might want to just consider Mint. But to be honest, it literally doesn't matter. Ubuntu is probably the better choice for a really new user but if you actually plan on switching to linux as your main OS it won't matter at all
>>52537644
iirc Mint is just Ubuntu with Cinnamon instead of Unity.
>>52537660
Are you sure the ports are open?
I had a similar problem and it resulted in me not knowing FirewallD well.
What commands are you using to open the ports?
>>52537678
Pretty much.
Both are based on Debian, so the support is pretty much the same.
>>52537694
I'm making sure to use firewall-cmd --zone=public --permanent for each port, and I've confirmed they're open.
I know that this is the correct way to do it, as I had the same problem with Plex itself until I realized I was doing it all wrong. Now Plex can be communicated with fine, but the share is still being a bastard.
>>52537732
I already see one problem. Permanent flag doesn't work immediately.
WHAT COMMANDS DID YOU USE?
Now that I no longer have a music library to deal with and am free to partition my hard drive however I need, I might as well escape this hell.
I liked the fact that since there are no regular kernel upgrades on an openSUSE desktop release I didn't have to reboot for weeks or months, but thanks to Packman I didn't have to sacrifice my latest mpv. However I hate the 'why do you care about a few extra packages' doctrine in the package management.
If I go back to Debian I'm going to find out once again why I left, aren't I?
Maybe I'll take this opportunity to learn how to Gentoo. Probably not. I like having a usable desktop out of the box.
>>52537751
Sorry, I can't post the exact commands, I'm currently at work (on break).
>>52536814
Linux is fun t'use and all, but I have a hard time getting around some of the bugs that pop up with updates/compatibility errors, so I want to dual boot Win7 and Linux.
Do I need to do a clean install and install Windows first? Also, can't I just blacklist Microsoft with my router to prevent spying?
>>52537751
>>52537783
And it does work after a reboot, friend.
>>52537797
Windows boot loader hates Linux so you'll have to overwrite it with GRUB, by installing Windows first and Linux second.
So what bugs are you talking about?
>>52537783
I see...
>>52537803
Can you give the output of# firewall-cmd --list-all
for me then?
>>52537814
Well, most recently my desktop won't detect any USB drives for some reason. It'll still accept input from things like wireless mice and my keyboard to any USB port, though. I've followed all the troubleshooting guides I've found and it still hasn't fixed anything.
Some other things are really just plain old compatibility issues, though, that just require me getting more acquainted with how to work around things in Wine.
Every now and then an update will break something, but it gets fixed within day or so.
Also some things don't work even with Wine/PlayonLinux, though that's more the fault of developers not having native versions. That, and I need to read up on PCIE passthrough to play games. I did manage to get FL studio to work, though I couldn't get the keygen to operate in the virtual drive. The same torrent installed perfectly fine on my laptop (My laptop has Win10 because I snagged it refurbished for $100).
>>52537863
I personally am above /v/ and play games on consoles if at all so wouldn't understand the plight of the nogames, but most software has a well-maintained and open alternative native to Linux that many people avoid out of habit and reluctance to try new things. Have you looked into Ardour?
Hello, everyone. I have a(n) external HDD with a VFAT partition. How can I make it so it mounts itself when I plug it it or if it's already plugged in at boot time? Thanks.
Distro is Ubuntu 15.10.
>>52537906
I installed LMMS.
I also have been trying to get logmein himachi to work.
I don't really play much in the way of games that are for either console or PC though, unfortunately. Some Pokemon emulators and maybe a MOBA are all I really play, but I can't even do that completely at the moment. I should be able to get the pokemon game to work, though.
>>52537929
Also, I'd like to keep fucking with FSTAB to a minimum.
> Gentoo Hardened
> Want to use SELinux
> When I enable the SELinux profile it tries to take the systemd use flag off everything
> no solutions on google
> selinux worked fine with systemd on Fedora
> Trying to force it to use systemd doesn't work
I'm kind of at a loss here.
>>52537954
Question:
Why'd you switch to Gentoo?
>>52537944
Normally it's a matter of googling <generic application name> + linux. I've had no problems finding emulators for things I need. Not like it beats playing Mortal Kombat on an actual MegaDrive.
>>52537960
Honestly? I fell for the meme.
But I learned a shitload (I was pretty much a newfag despite having run Linux for two and a half years) and I actually had a bit of fun installing it.
Now that I'm on it I'm enjoying it, I love USE flags, I like not having my system bloated, and I like the hardened sources (yeah, I know I can install Grsecurity on Fedora, but that's another can of worms).
At any rate, I've invested too much time in this install to turn back now, especially now that everything but SELinux is running beautifully.
>>52537981
I know what you mean. I installed it because I fell for it too, but I love Debian too much to switch to it.
>now that everything but SELinux is running beautifully.
But didn't you just say that you were having problems incorporating SELinux into Systemd?
>>52537644
Mint has more shit pre-installed which can make setup easier, but it's based on an older version of Ubuntu so you get shit like an older kernel, which can end up being worse on newer hardware.
I'd recommend Mint if you have to pick between the two, but I'd easily recommend opensuse over that, its beginner friendly and imo better than anything ubuntu based. Tumbleweed is absolutely stable enough for everyday use.
>>52538023
quit misusing the word stable fuckwad
>>52538012
I did. I guess that means neither systemd nor SELinux is running "beautifully" but the system works fine except for this issue.
Hey, I know how to get dmesg to print times into a human-readable format
(dmesg -T), but is there a way I can display the time in a regular twelve hour format? Don't know why, I'm just never able to read 24h time without counting it out in my head.
>>52538192
>too retarded to use 24h clock format
Your fault.
>>52538208
Seems that way. Looking it up, I don't see a way to do this with 12h time.
>>52538023
What exactly do you mean by newer hardware isn't good for it?
Do the mint developers ever plan to make mint based on a newer Ubuntu and newer kernal?
>>52538282
>What exactly do you mean by newer hardware isn't good for it?
Older kernel = Less support
>>52538192
throw this in an alias as whatever you wantdate +%r
>>52538320
Right, but I need that functionality for dmesg. My actual clock has no problems.
>>52538282
Yes, mint is based on the latest LTS version of ubuntu. The next version of mint will be based on 16.04, with a newer kernel.
Until then, you're stuck with 14.04; it has overall pretty good support but on some systems like my skylake laptop you may need a newer kernel
>>52538851
Oh cool. Is there any known time or date when its released?
>>52538930
It will be probably several months after Ubuntu 16.04 comes out.
>>52538930
You mean when 16.04 is released?
>>52538930
>>52538943
>>52538947
Pro tip: Ubuntu's version numbers are actually the dates of their scheduled releases.
(16.04), 16= 2016, 04= April.
I fucked up BIG TIME guys.
I tried to wipe a flash drive withdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
But I accidentally did sda and when I caught it and stopped it 3.7 gigabytes were overwritten and now it claims there are no partitions (I stupidly rebooted to see if problems would arise, they did.)
It was an encrypted drive. If I can't get sda2, I can't open it and retrieve my data. Fuck me, is there any way to fix this?
If there isn't I'm installing Funtoo; Gentoo has given me enough shit.
>>52538991
I actually laughed. Sorry to say, Anon, but you're probably fucked.
>>52539000
Son of a christ! God fucking damn it!
>>52538991
Sorry, anon.
>>52538991
> boot into fedora livecd
> check disks
> 1.0 TB unknown
Son of a bitch. I really fucked up this time.
Christ. Let's hope I remember enough of the Gentoo installation process. If it's not done by tomorrow night I'm going back to Fedora.
> tfw all my porn is gone
> tfw my last backup was two weeks ago
> tfw I accumulate porn incredibly fast
Well, this was a fucking learning experience.
>>52539000
>52539000
>>52539024
Wait... Gdisk says there are partitions. They still exist, but I cannot access them.
Is there hope?
>>52539113
What do you mean by "cannot access them"?
Protip, put a hashtag in front of dd just next time, just to be sure. :^)
>>52539158
I mean lsblk says it's just sda, and attempting to open sda2 says it doesn't exist.
But gdisk shows they are; just tantalizing me. I clearly fucked the GPT table; I only used like 200 gigs of that 1 TB disk so I doubt it got to any of my actual data.
>>52539265
did the second partition begin beyond the 3.7G mark?
if so, creating a new partition table with an entry identical to the old one should give you access to the data again
>>52539312
No, there was just boot (500MB) and the encrypted partition (the rest).
If that was possible, could you tell me the commands I'd need to run? Knowing me I'd end up wiping the whole thing trying.
Give it to me straight - I'm already downloading funtoo sources. I've come to terms with letting go of my data.
>>52539384
Have you considered praying to a higher power?
>>52539397
Ha
haha
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
God wouldn't help me.
>>52539406
Just wondering, why are you switching to Funtoo?
What was wrong with Gentoo?
>>52539384
i don't have any experience with encrypted volumes, but no conventional recovery tools will be of any use, as they depend on being able to actually recognize stuff on the disk
it's up to whether the tools used to encrypt it are capable of mounting a damaged volume or not
restoring access completely is out of the question
time to rev up those backups
....
... right?
>>52539466
Y-Yeah... Right, >>52539406 ?...
>>52539465
I decided to go Funtoo because it was made by the lead developer of Gentoo who saw a bunch of issues with it but couldn't fix then because Gentoo became a bureaucratic mess.
I didn't learn this until after I installed Gentoo.
That and its portage is git-based, and it gets features sooner than Gentoo.
>>52539466
I've got a backup, but from a few weeks ago. Not much lost; just a lot of porn and funny pictures saved from 4chan.
> 3,000+ images
I'm a fuckup. I need to go get hammered or something.
>>52539503
Welp, here's the plan.
> Go to staples in the morning
> Get a flash drive (want to do that sort of key storage)
> Spend all day installing Funtoo
> Restore mediocre backup
> Get wasted
>>52539533
Just one thing - I made a custom wallpaper based on the "grand theft gentoo" meme image and I don't think I ever backed it up.
I posted it a couple FLTs ago. Did anyone save it?
>>52539503
what did you use to encrypt it?
i'm curious to know what is possible recovery-wise
Random question.
From what I've been told, it's my understanding that the 'bs' (block size) argument used in a DD command is just to specify the write speed. But with faster write speeds means there's more of a chance of something going amiss, right?
>>52539591
>grand theft gentoo
>>52539596
LUKS - aes-xts-64 if memory serves.
>>52539591
check https://rbt.asia/g/
>>52539606
Wasn't that one; it was actually styled like the Grand Theft Auto covers, with the black lines and shit.
>>52539619
Name of the file?
>>52539608
Found it.
Thanks to you anons for the help and support you've offered. The blame for this one resides entirely on my own shoulders.
There will be more porn and more funny pictures; in all likelihood many of the same ones will come my way.
I'm glad I had backups of all the photos I've taken; I'd have been pretty upset if those were lost.
>>52539629
>>52539647
>>52539626
>>52539648
Also the version without the rating, in case you need to see all of that raspberry pi.
>>52539661
Thanks. That Raspberry Pi was being a tease.
Still my favorite GTG image.
Scumbag Bill.
>>52539607
well, i found out a few things
LUKS works by using your passphrase to encrypt the master key, which the data is encrypted with, which is stored in the volume header (first ~2M)
you *can* read arbitrary blocks if you have the master key (which is the only way you could recover data in your case)
... the bad news is that the master key was overwritten
... and you rebooted, if you didn't reboot you could have pulled the key from memory
the master key is gone, so there's no way to decrypt what's left, so unless you backed up the master key/volume header at some point, the data is absolutely, definitively gone
>>52539729
Damn.
I should have backed up my shit before rebooting. I'm a retard.
I am wiser for this experience. I must devote myself to preaching good data storage practices.
>>52539752
don't feel bad, people fuck up, it's why backups are a thing
i've lost more than 200G at once before
nothing kicks a good backup plan into gear like like losing a good chunk of data
first thing to remember is not to reboot until you find out more about the situation, in some cases it doesn't change much, though it seems in the encrypted case, it's fatal
>>52539752
Don't worry, man. I'll be sending positive vibes to your local Staples.
>>52539821
>>52539859
Thanks, guys. I knew the "Friendly" wasn't just an artifact title.
Are there other BASH alternatives like ZSH and fish?
>>52539599
the block size is just how much it reads and writes at a time, it has no affect on the result, it just makes sense to use different sizes in different cases
like for example, the default is 512 bytes, which is a bit archaic at this point, most hard drives nowadays use 4k sectors, so writing 512b at a time means you'd be writing to each sector 8 times
a higher block size means dd will need more memory to work, but a couple megs of ram these days is nothing, so you might as well use that
there are cases for using small/specific block sizes, but for common usage (writing/reading large images/disks to/from images/disks), a block size of 1M+ should be your go-to value
>>52539899
here's a few;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Unix_shells
Into software development. What GNU/Linux do you recommend? I want something lightweight and secure.
Was thinking ubuntu development, tell me whats good
>>52540011
They're all pretty secure by default. When you say lightweight do you mean 2GB ram or 512MB ram? The former category includes everything, the latter is very selective.
tl;dr: literally anything works, try ubuntu derivatives
>>52540011
Lubuntu.
>>52540036
2gb. I've tried some of them but always feel like theres something i dont like. What do you recommend
>>52540080
Well maybe try to explain what that "something" you don't like is? We can't read thoughts.
>>52539821
>nothing kicks a good backup plan...
You're not wrong there. When I first started using Linux, I was trying to get a dual boot thing going on. Backed up all important shit to my storage drive, because there was lots of OS reinstallations going on everytime I fucked something up.
At one point I reinstalled Windows, but completely failed to realize my storage drive was plugged into SATA_0. Windows of course happily did it's thing and wrote it MBR straight onto the first disk it found - my storage drive - and obliterated the partition table.
I'm savvy enough to know to be able to recover from something like that these days, but at the time, when I didn't have a clue what was going on, it was pretty fucking devastating.
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Manjaro Linux User.
Updated my system yesterday with no issues, but I came home from work to find my terminal giving me this error every time I type a character:_zsh_highlight_main_highlighter_expand_path:7: scalar parameter REPLY created globally in function _zsh_highlight_main_highlighter_expand_path
It doesn't stop me from typing or executing any commands, and my zsh-highlighting still works, but it's very disconcerting.
I tried reinstalling zsh-syntax-highlighting, but the error persists.
Any suggestions?
>>52540266
Try if rebooting helps
>>52540318
No such luck.
>>52540266
Have you looked at https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=205928
>>52540413
That was the first thing I found.
I'm not using either prezto-git or zgen, though.
>>52540266
Install a REAL shell.
>>52540266
>>52540429
How did you configure your zsh when you set it up the first time?
>move focus to open nano session
>hjlkjhkhkjjjhjhjjjjjjjjjj
I really should just switch to vim
>>52540466
I just installed it from the community repo and stole some guy's config.
I've been using the same one for a few years now without any problems.
I've never used Oh-My-Zsh, or anything like that, and I installed zsh-syntax-highlighting from https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-syntax-highlighting
What distro is laughed at the least?
>>52540535
*buntus and fedora
the rest are confirmed memes
>>52540551
fedora is laughed at for name
noobuntus are laughed at for being for noobs
>>52540570
>being for noobs
what's noob about *buntus?
>fedora is laughed at for name
fedora as a name of distribution exists since 2003.
le atheist hat meme came a decade later.
>>52540629
Still don't want to tell my normie friends i'm running fedora, I'd rather they change the name of the os to blue hat or something
Ubuntu has the rep for being for noobs, personally I just don't like the apt/dpkg package manager system
When you compare Arch and a minimal/base Debian install, what are the advantages of Arch for desktop usage? So far I can only see the AUR, but really that mainly just seems to be one big repository, and repositories are pretty easy to add in Debian, anyway.
This isn't a b8 question, just legitimately wondering why I should go with Arch when Debian seems like it can be just as lightweight and potentially more stable, too.
I'm currently running Mint on this laptop as it's very weak and I'm wondering if I'd be able to get slightly better performance by switching to something a bit more barebones.
>>52540722
Unless your sole purpose in life is to rice desktops and post screenshots on internet image boards then go with debian, thank me later
>>52540722
Then it comes to rolling release/muh bleeding edge versus simplicity/ease of install and your preference of package manager.
>>52540722
In my experience Arch has been as stable as Debian. That being said, I use Arch because I like the DIY feel of it as well as having the latest versions of software.
>>52540722
There aren't any advantages for either. Just use whatever you're comfortable with. Since your already using Mint, just use Debian. It'll feel more familiar to you, which is always going to be a plus.
And ignore >>52540750. Any "minimal" install is always going to require your precious time when it comes to configuring your system (what this guy refers to as "ricing").
Fresh install of ubuntu 15.10, i use windows everyday on my main pc for media and games and shit.
How do i uninstall shit on here? How can i see where my stuff is 'installed' and how can i remove it fully to not deal with it
or should i google this
>>52541011
also shit i should use? anything thats pretty much mandatory?
>>52541040
>also shit i should use? anything thats pretty much mandatory?
brain and google
>>52541011
>>52541040
To uninstall type
"sudo apt-get remove <name of package>"
into the terminal (without the quotation marks)
As for shit you should use you'll have to specify what you want to do on it. For simple media playing you have mpv and VLC. Gaming on Linux is tricky but Wine should give you something to work with. I hope you like searching for shit online. There is Steam for Linux but the selection is limited
If you want to write documents LibreOffice is your best bet
>>52541040
Use ubuntu software center. You should have an "installed" tab and you can click an uninstall there.
I'm going to install Gentoo soon, but I want to know if it's possible to compile Steam on it. I wouldn't think so, as it's proprietary, but I don't pay a whole lot of attention to "free" software, so I would love a second opinion.
I have an issue with xfce4 power manager. When I choose it to suspend when lid closed, it just switches off the display. It's the latest version.
>>52540535
Slackware ?
I'm sure you can find some obscure one on distrowatch to fill in your hipster needs.
>>52541400
Gentoo doesn't have an FSF stick up their ass, which means you're free to use the distro as you please.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Steam
>>52541173
>Gaming on Linux is tricky but Wine should give you something to work with.
I wouldn't bother with Wine, most games run like shit or don't work at all through it.
Install steam, a lot of the games there can be played with Linux.
>>52541493
Send help. I'm so tired of this shit. How hard would it be to install a different power manager? I'm using Lubuntu 15.10 btw.
>>52541522
Thanks. On another note, can anyone recommend the fastest lightweight browser that plays most or all media formats?
>>52541568
Just pick between Firefox and Chromium depending on your personal preferences. It's not like we have anything new.
>>52541580
I heard a lot of good things about Yandex the other day. Is it any good?
>>52541594
Russian botnet
>>52541011
If you prefer to use a gui, install the synaptic package manager.
There you can just tick / untick boxes and it will install the software for you.
But the basic four commands:apt-get install <package>
apt-get remove <package>
apt-cache search <package>
dpkg -l /dpkg --get-selections
>>52541608
Well, I guess I'll run Firefox then. What version is the fastest/lightest/functional?
>>52541647
iceweasel seems to be the most popular freetard fork.
If I install on a debian core/minimal a browser that should have a graphic interface or a video player will it work or will it just go text only?
>>52541647
I like Pale Moon 2bh
>>52541698
>>52541702
I meant the official version, but I'll take a look at those.
Can someone suggest me a decent distro for my new skylake desktop?
I use it mainly for gaming and at first I decided not to get Linux on it but after trying out Putty for a while I decided that I do need a Unix environment for my workflow and want a quick, easy and good looking Distro out of the box ( I have been using arch on my thinkpad for a couple of years but I want to do some work comfortably at my desktop PC too.)
I'm downloading Fedora 23 workstation now since I've heard good things about it, should I go through with it?
>>52541775
>skylake
>not using windows 10 for 30x better graphics
>>52541789
>>not using windows 10 for 30x better graphics
I have ATI graphics, a 7850 that I won playing videogames (and a 6850, 5850 and 4850 in a drawer somewhere that arrived the same way)
>>52541806
Yeah, but you could have those graphics x30.
>>52541854
I do have W10 since I use this desktop mainly to play games but I got myself a 60gb partition because I prefer and need the Linux workflow
>>52541861
>not using Windows 10 on every device you own
>>52541775
Install mint with cinnamon
I want to switch from KDE to GNOME but the video tearing there is just absurd. I have followed many suggestions including tweaking xorg Conf. Etc... But none of them worked. The only thing that worked is the "full screen repaint" option on KDE.
>inb4 use Wayland
I've tried but there are way too many bugs still.
What can I do?
How easy is it to setup a vitual machine in linux so I can just use windows whenever I need? Completely new and planning on using Linux Mint.
>>52542301
Don't use shit like Gnome?
>>52542301
use compton with glx backend and vsync (try the various options) enabled.
I'm looking for a calendar program where i can import an .ical file and preferably be able to access the next appointment through the terminal as a text output.
Anyone know of such a program?
Why does Debain rebrand Firefox and Thunderbird as Iceweasel and Icedove? Is it for freedom?
I'm getting frustrated at Linux, honestly.
I have Fedora 23 on dual boot with Windows 10. At boot, it gives me an "Could not get authority error". When I press Enter to get into a rescue shell it gives me another error that the root account is locked, which is absurd since I'm obviously not logged in. A bit of googling tells me that error, at boot, usually means some fstab error. So now I'm making a Live CD to edit fstab and add a nofail to one of the mount options, meanwhile I'm on Windows watching movies and thinking why am I even bothering fixing an OS that in 2016 spits out errors randomly all the while the proprietary evil botnet lets me do whatever I want.
I'm all for free as in freedom, but for fuck's sake.
>>52543001
Forgot to say, its for Ubuntu.
how can I reset all settings (and everything) on reboot as if my install was a LiveUSB?
>>52538192
You realise that's all that anyone does, subtract 12 from the hour in their head if its greater than 12?
Besides, ordering timestamps becomes hell if you use AM/PM.
What basic packages do I need if I want Linux on the desktop? I managed to put Linux on another drive with its own EFI partition and everything, but as soon as I booted up the Windows drive, it started crying and killed the EFI on the Debian stretch drive. On the very short time that I had it, multiple displays/monitors where being a drag and things moved much slower(maybe due to no hardware acceleration from the discrete GPU?). I would need Nvidia drivers, but I don't know the stance on open versus proprietary. Also, anyone here run multiple displays? I'd like to know some tips before cleaning killing Windows on the SSD.
Pic unrelated, it's just the University's speed.
>>52541699
huize? ;_;
>>52543038
mount /home as a ramdisk
>>52543174
So you have Windows on an SSD and Linux on a HDD? And Windows formatted/whatever the EFI partition on the HDD? Did you get that fixed?
Use the free drivers, mesa includes nouveau. If you want to test wether everything's there use mpv and set the config to use vdpau, launch it through the terminal and see if it complains about it and defaults to software decoding. If it doesn't, nouveau is probably working properly. If you have Windows I see little reason to use the proprietary drivers in Linux.
>>52543292
I tried many things, grub on the Windows drive never showed up for some reason so I put it on the Debian drive. I also unplugged some drives since I think Asmedia wasn't supported on the stable Debian kernel. Windows still freaked out later and did shit to that partition.
I'll go for the free drivers then. What about AMD's situation? I might go for Polaris this year and hope for Vulkan and AMD open sourcing their drivers to push a little more support. I've read their Linux drivers are actually bad.
I'm trying to move away entirely from Windows. If I ever need for gaymes, emulation,etc; I'll just bite the bullet and use a VM or Wine.
Is there anyway I can speed up the integrated intel graphics card in Linux Mint 17? Thing runs like absolute dicks when I try to play 2D vidya games. I'm using the stock Linux Mint Intel graphics driver.
>>52543511
which gpu and game?
is there any benefits in installing grsecurity on a laptop? where can I find a good guide about it?
>>52543671
If you don't know if you need it, you don't need it.
>>52542872
Yeah well personal preference I guess... I like GNOME, the others like lxde or xfce are too minimal while KDE is bloated as fuck. I think GNOME is the right compromise (for me). What would you suggest?
>>52542912
I recall trying that and something was weird about the window manager not displaying the borders right or something... Maybe I'll give it another spin
>>52543704
just wondering if it could help against the typical threats on a "private" single user system. Like malicious webpages exploiting browser vulnerabilities, potentially compromised closed (and open) source software, etc..
I'm trying to install mint right now. It keeps failing to install the bootloader or whatever. Why is that?
Tried to fix it but I don't think I can access the files because I checked off the encryption option. I suppose I can just install without encrypting but I just don't know why it's not working in the first place. This LiveCD sort of install thing is really convenient and easy to use though. Useful as I can just post here while trying to install without any hassle.
>>52543476
>>>52543292 (You)
>I tried many things, grub on the Windows drive never showed up for some reason so I put it on the Debian drive.
That's overall a smart decision because if you suddenly decide you're done with either OS, or if one of the drives has a catastrophical failure, the other OS and drive will supposedly work fine: Windows with its own bootloader and Debian with Grub.
>What about AMD's situation?
Debian stable is using Linux 3.16, and I think AMDGPU is only included on 4.4, so you won't have much luck. You'll have the old AMD support, which isn't great. I don't want to be a meme, but Arch might be better for you.
>>52543866
Any error codes? Does it fail to boot or actually to install? Is Windows also on that drive?
The /boot partition isn't encrypted as far as I know, so I doubt that's what's causing it.
>>52543949
It gives me the error at the very end of the install. Then it gives me 3 options.
Choose somewhere else to install bootloader, none of the choices worked
Continue without installing bootloader, which makes it so I can't boot linux at all
Or cancel the installation
I previously had windows on the drive but checked off the option to have it completely overwrite everything on that drive. Windows should be completely wiped from it especially since I've tried installing it a few times now.
>>52543935
>Windows with its own bootloader and Debian with Grub.
This is exatcly what I wanted by when I booted up Windows it scanned drives and fucked up the Debian drive.
>AMDGPU is only included on 4.4,
Well shit. I'm using stretch with kernel 4.3. Maybe they'll get to 4.4 this year? ;_;
>>52541918
Meh, I installed Mint Cinnamon and played with it for a good hour and was absolutely unimpressed.
It's way way slower than Windows at every task even on such a beefy CPU, I tried both the default (old as hell) xorg drivers, git drivers and fglrx drivers and they are all pretty bad.
Packages are super updated and it ran kernel 3.9 so I threw 4.4 on it but things didn't get that much better.
I guess we are still far from the year of linux desktop, sadly. Arch runs fine on my thinkpad but I'm not having my 1k€ computer lagging in the file manager and dropping frames on twitch.tv.
>>52544004
"Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed.
This is a fatal error."
This is the exact error I got. Had to install again to see it.
I just installed Arch, and im trying to install xorg to use Openbox or i3. When i run
lspci | grep -e VGA -e 3D
i get as output:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09)
3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (rev a1)
What driver i should install? Please help anons.
How do you make codecs work for MPV player in OpenSUSE?
>>52544256
optimus laptop?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bumblebee#Installation
Can someone explain the benefits of partitions to me?
First time setting up a Linux system and I can't really see any drawbacks to just giving 100% of my drive to /.
>>52544574
When you fucked up your installation, if you give /home a separate partition, your data and configs are safe.
>>52544574
>First time setting up a Linux system and I can't really see any drawbacks to just giving 100% of my drive to /.
on a meme machine (which I assume your computer is since you're a beginner) there is none.
If you are not sure which one distro you will be using I would recommend making /home a separate partition and putting everything else in /
This way you will be able to distrohop for eternity while being able to keep the content of /home.
>>52544541
Thanks.
How can I use the numpad to move the cursor? My laptop's trackpad is garbage. I'm on Arch.
>>52541699
>>52543216
if the browser requires graphical shit like X Server, it'll be marked as a dependency, so any decent package manager will work it out for you.
You'll then need to launch X server: http://superuser.com/questions/407043/is-it-possible-to-run-graphical-applications-such-as-firefox-without-installing
>>52544770
>what is a mouse
>>52544924
College student running on limited funds. Plus mice take up space.
>>52544964
There are decent ones for like $5-10. At least better than the number pad. For space, why not use the spot to the right of the trackpad?
What should i use to encrypt a usb drive on Linux? I am using Debian Jessie.
>>52545230
L U K S
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>>52545240
T H A N K S
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>>52540722
Debian can't AUR. The Package builds are made for the Arch structure, but it's maybe possible to write a wrapper, but this wasn't done yet.
>>52540722
Shit only goes to the AUR because the official repos don't want to touch it.
Think about that before you try to install anything from the AUR.
I'm currently using a single partition on my Arch.
I didn't encrypt it at installation. Am I basically fucked with regards to most types of encryption?
I know this has been asked a million times, but I'm on a fedora 23 kde spin. How do I get the firefox file picker to display thumbnails? Didn't KDE support thumbnail view out of the box?
>>52546250
this requires a firefox patch developed and maintaned by opensuse
try
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE/Firefox_KDE_Integration
or look for a fedora COPR repository with patched firefox
>>52546319
I have a problem with the first method: yum and dnf say there is no kgtk package. I searched in the COPR, and there isno patched ff either. What do?
>>52546386
patch it yourself?
What are some good firewall and antivirus programs for Linux? How do I secure my system? Already installed Common Sense.
>>52546764
>firewall
iptables
>antivirus
clamav
>how do I secure my system
Two factor authentication on ssh, don't have things to run without you saying so, (ie disable flash, and cross site js) And patch your shit
>>52546896
Thanks. Read into iptables and it looks quite difficult, any good read about this topic?
I have a small issue with mpv-zsh and Google isn't being particularly helpful.
Pasting the link after mpv, results in zsh not being able to "understand" it (no matches found -link-). I can't really figure out why it doesn't work so I just switch between zsh and bash.
Can anyone help me with the following? I have arch installed for some time on an external hard drive, cause i wanted to check it out. Turns out i like it a lot, so i want it on my internal HDD. get a bigger hdd, format it, so i can fit Windows for games and stuff on it as well as my current linux setup. Here comes the problem: if i create a partition table in gpt (the mb has got uefi support), the windows installer tells me, it cant work with that -> installation fails. No worries, just try mbr instead.. "your mb works better with uefi, hdd, has wrong formatation"..
so, its kinda fucked; anyone know help?
>>52547137
You can always use a GUI frontend like GUFW or kcm-ufw.
>>52547144
Try mpv "url".
Also use bash. Zsh is mac tier.
Want to try venturing beyond bash, got tired of some of its quirks.
zsh or fish? Or something else? I have no idea what the difference is.
I added a new harddrive to my system but my user can't access it, only root. "Read only filesystem"
My fstab looks like /dev/sdb1 /home/hdd ntfs 0 0
Why is fstab mounting it so only root can access it?
>>52547189
zsh: useless bloat, >incompatible scripting
fish: >incompatible scripting
bash: what real men use
>>52547238
mount it as rw duh
>>52547243
I don't want it for scripting, I want it for interactive use. It's not like I will delete bash anyway.
>>52547265
"defaults" includes rw, and to test I've even added defaults,rw and it still wouldn't let user read or write.
>>52547189
What quirks?
Have you thought about just customising it's behaviour with profile scripts?
That way, you can still use your changes on a machine where you can't install your own terminal of choice.
>>52547317
No saving commands I typed but didn't put in into history; when I recalled command from history, edited it and ran it, the original command disappears from the history; sudo seems to break the ! functionality; really want better autocompletion (opportunity to go through the stuff autocompletion came up with through arrow keys or something alike, sudo doesn't get autcompletion for some reason, though that one is probably fixable, really like the interactive autcompletion fish has, want it).
That's about it. Is this all customisable through profile scripts?
Oh, also, if I'm gonna have to work on another machine someday because of circumstances, then it is really more likely to lack bash along wish zsh/fish, and if I change machines myself, I can just install whatever the hell I want to anyway.
Or are you talking about me working someday with a Linux server? Not really likely any time soon.
what is babbies first WM?
>>52547536
Openbox.
Creating a robust Openbox setup will teach you how to create setups for most other WMs.
>>52547588
>setup
are you talking about config or programs to go along with it (dmenu and the like)?
>>52547645
Programs to go with it.
Not just dmenu, but panels and some ricing stuff (docks, conky, etc.).
>>52547492
>No saving commands I typed but didn't put in into history
Not sure exactly what you mean here.
>when I recalled command from history, edited it and ran it, the original command disappears from the history
That's a bug, I've never noticed that with gnome-terminal
>sudo seems to break the ! functionality
In what way?
>really want better autocompletion (opportunity to go through the stuff autocompletion came up with through arrow keys or something alike, sudo doesn't get autcompletion for some reason, though that one is probably fixable, really like the interactive autcompletion fish has, want it).
Sudo completion works for most things (not all) for me, I'm sure you can make modifications to fix it.
>Oh, also, if I'm gonna have to work on another machine someday because of circumstances, then it is really more likely to lack bash along wish zsh/fish, and if I change machines myself, I can just install whatever the hell I want to anyway.
>Or are you talking about me working someday with a Linux server? Not really likely any time soon.
More like using ssh to a server, or using linux desktops at school/work.
Obviously at home you can reinstall whatever you like, but it's still easier to just copy a .bashrc file than to install and configure everything manually every time.
>>52547492
The original command disappears only when you edit it and DONT run it. When you run it, it's regonized as new command. You're basically editing the history by not running it.if [[ -f /etc/bash_completion ]]; then
. /etc/bash_completion && shopt -s no_empty_cmd_completion
complete -cf man sudo
fi
This will enable basic completition plus sudo enabled. Not that nice like zsh or fish, but if you ask me, you don't need autosuggestions anyway. Usually you already know what you want to do.
>mfw for the first time ever got linux running and everything is working flawlessly
>wine running perfectly able to play any game I need so far
Loving mint
>>52536814
How do I check what graphics drivers I'm using in an arch based system, I got the propietary amd drivers, but what's the command to see what the system is utilizing?
>>52547238
>>52547276
bump, still can't figure this out. wtf am I doing wrong?
>>52547238
>>52548082
Shouldn't it be ntfs-3g?
>>52547740
>The original command disappears only when you edit it and DONT run it. When you run it, it's regonized as new command. You're basically editing the history by not running it.
Oh, yeah, you're actually right. Never noticed it.
Is there way to tell bash to stop doing that? I don't even get why you would want to edit history.
>This will enable basic completition plus sudo enabled.
Apparently I have bash_completion.d instead. Will look into it, maybe.
>Not that nice like zsh or fish, but if you ask me, you don't need autosuggestions anyway. Usually you already know what you want to do.
Well, if you ask me, it's the coolest feature ever and I don't get how I ever lived without it.
Also, it's not about knowing what program I want to run most of the times, it's about knowing just when can I get away with pushing Tab without conflicts. Well, sometimes I do try to guess commands I'm not sure I have, though.
>>52547693
>Not sure exactly what you mean here.
Yeah, this one is kinda unreasonable. I basically want the shell to remember the commands I type but didn't run and didn't delete. Basically, if I didn't delete the stuff I typed in manually, but instead Ctrl-C it or went back in history, I would want the shell to still remember this command. I just assumed zsh has something like this, considering how people say there are a thousand plugins for it. That's still more of my quirk.
>That's a bug, I've never noticed that with gnome-terminal
The other guy made me notice it's when I don't run the command I edited. Basically, I don't want to be able to edit history.
>sudo seems to break the ! functionality
>In what way?
If I typed in sudo ls /root and then sudo cd /root, I can't use !ls or !sudo to redo sudo ls /root. This basically makes ! syntax useless for any program run with sudo but the last. I want a way around that.
>Sudo completion works for most things (not all) for me.
Weird. Doesn't work for me at all.
>>52548192
>>52548082
Also, putting it in your own user's home directory might be a solution. Are you sure your user has the correct rights to /home/hdd?
>>52548192
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@2
Yes!!! I just checked and didn't have the ntfs-3 module loaded. I'm an idiot. Interesting that you can still read from ntfs without it.
>>52548202
look into shopt.
Examples:# Change directory without typing 'cd'. Typing a '/' at the end solves ambiguity.
shopt -s autocd
# This will correct minor spelling errors in a cd command.
shopt -s cdspell
# Update the values of LINES and COLUMNS after each command.
shopt -s checkwinsize
# Append to history rather than overwrite.
shopt -s histappend
>>52546412
how do I do that? Do I change something during compilation?
Is it bad if i force mpd to 48000 sample rate as opposed to forcing 44100 sample rate even though most of my music is 44100?
Will upsampling harm quality at all?
I just looked at my mpd.conf and for some reason it was forcing 44100 and i was wondering if there's a good reason for this.
Also should i leave the bit depth at 16 or can i bump it to 32? or does it not make any difference?
Anyone knows how to fix a mouse related bug on fedora 23 ? Im using an Asus echeleon gaming mouse, and whenever I press the middle button while surfing the web and expect it to act like a fast scrolling wheel it instead functions as a "go backward one page". Any idea how to change it ?
>>52548026
Check ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
>>52548609
You could use AUR PKGBUILDs as reference
https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=kmozillahelper
https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=firefox-kde-opensuse
>>52548202
>If I typed in sudo ls /root and then sudo cd /root, I can't use !ls or !sudo to redo sudo ls /root. This basically makes ! syntax useless for any program run with sudo but the last. I want a way around that.
Er, why not just use control+r search?
>Weird. Doesn't work for me at all.
Hmm, well debian has most sudo autocomplete available out of the box.
Sounds like it's the reverse of what you're experiencing.
commands like shutdown grub-reboot etc. don't complete normally, only if prefixed by sudo/running root shell.
>this
>fucking
>exists
aight lads im golden atm
>>52549606
mpd + ncmpcpp is better.
>>52549886
>mpd + ncmpcpp
a definition of a meme.
next to arch, gentoo and vim
>>52549606
>GFR
Good taste, music and media player.
>>52549950
thanks
>>52549886
>x is better
they both play music you fucking autist. rest is looks and 100% opinion
>>52549944
k, enjoy your garbageware
>>52550036
mpd + ncmpcpp plays music better though.
>>52550040
enjoy your memeware
>>52548654
>Will upsampling harm quality at all?
Depends on the filter used.
>Also should i leave the bit depth at 16 or can i bump it to 32? or does it not make any difference?
32bit gives literally nothing.
How can I stop Gentoo from installing all kinds of random bullshit when I'm emerging programs?
Example: emerge docky, installs gnome-keyring, gnome-utils, gnome-(insert-bullshit-here).
I think this is the reason why I'm touching 600 packages yet only just installed.
>>52550160
Using USE flags or edit manually ebuilds.
>>52550186
That's the thing, I have things like "-gnome, -kde, -lxde" etc in my use flags. I thought that would stop portage from installing them. and yes I @world after editing them in
>>52540722
for me, and in my experience
- largely vanilla packages (not a big deal, but it's nice)
- AUR has everything, more than you can find as debian repos, and it's more convenient to be able to use an AUR wrapper like yaourt to directly access it all, it's also very easy to make your own packages and put them on the AUR
- i find pacman faster and easier to use than apt
- about as up to date as debian sid, but more stable than debian sid
Want to try using a tiling window manager
>inb4 faggot or whatever you want to call me
I just installed i3 but bspwm seems to be better overall, is bspwm good for beginners or should I stick with i3 then migrate to bspwm after learning i3?
>>52550455
use whatever fits you christ why do you seek validation from people on the internet?
>>52550455
I'm using bspwm now and was directed to it as actually being better for beginners than i3.
IMO, once you get the gist of bspwm's keystrokes, the way that it handles windows and spaces is a lot more beginner-friendly and hands-off than i3.
>>52543038
you could do a 'frugal' install, aka, copy a livecd onto your hdd and boot it from there
>>52543262
this will work to some extent, but it won't prevent you from making system-wide changes or install new programs (which could be a benefit, really)
to do this, add this to you fstab (or change an existing /home mount)tmpfs /home tmpfs defaults 0 0
Linux Arch running plasmat 5 KDE.
The JSMath output on /sci/ is black text even though it should be white with the tomorrow theme.
Anyone know how to fix this?
Just dropping by to say I switched to Linux a week ago and have no intentions of going back to Windows, not even for muh games. Thank you for showing me the light, /flt/.
>>52550726
enjoy
>>52550627
what browser are you using?
I'm guessing it has less to do with your Linux setup and more to do with your browser not reading CSS properly.
>>52550781
f-firefox...
ok guys I dont use a de, but I need an application switcher (ALT+TAB like) what do?
>>52550806
I'm guessing it's something to do with your KDE theme. Are you using a dark theme with white text?
>>52550884
dswitcher or rofi
>>52550943
Yes. I'm poking around with Firefox's settings, but I can't find an option for JSMath output.
But even if I do, I need it to be black in emails/GitHub because that background is white.
I don't understand what could be causing this, shouldn't it be something rendered by 4chan specificallly?
