Why is every single ultrabook fucking garbage /g/?
I just want a light and fast laptop for a grand that isn't built like shit.
Well, what's wrong with the one you just posted?
>>52522742
This thread will be shitposted into oblivion, but the Mac:s are solid computers and will not let you down.
Wait for the new thinkpads. The t460p is pretty hype
not shilling; I got the new macbook for $999 on edu discount, space gray, shit is nice. solid. ppl bitch about CPU speed but it is just fine.
Get an iPad or something
>>52522808
How's the noports treating you?
>>52522746
Poor reviews (3 stars on dell's website) and no buttons on the touchpad
>>52522808
>space grey
Macbooks only come in aluminum you silly anon
>>52522742
Just get a Surface or Macbook
Just get an X220.
>>52522840
I don't want to pay extra for a silly tablet
Macbook is tempting, might put a linux on it
>>52522845
4 year old laptop with sandy bridge cpu? Seems a bad idea
>>52522852
Surface is more of a laptop with touchscreen and optional keyboard than a tablet.
Don't put linux on a macbook, macbooks are terrible for linux.
>>52522825
just fine since I don't have to carry around 30 things to plug into my chinkpad and it has bluetooth and wifi that work. usb C -> USB 3 adapter was $5 on amazon.
>>52522838
>>52522742
because jewtel has horrible guidelines as to what a ultrashit is to be, and then companies use the title to hike prices as if it's some kind of achievement.
>>52522742
Honestly, just get the one in the pic, with the 1080p display. Almost no ultrabook/Mac will give you dedicated touchpad buttons, so you're SOL.
Buy it from Microsoft store, get the edu discount, and have fun. Something wrong with it, return it. Simple as fuck.
>>52522808
>just fine
>literally paying more for something that's worse than the previous version
>>52522876
Using one right now and I haven't met any issues, and they go for like $200 right now on ebay.
>>52523082
ok.
> literally
Thinkpad X1 3rd gen
>>52522742
>>52523514 see above or a T series. Literally a non shit laptop. I'm currently using a T450s for school, work and Dota2
>>52522893
disgusting.
>>52522755
this
just go used or refurbished and get applecare and you'll be happy with it.
>>52522893
Sexy as fuck.
>>52523514
will it work on games such as dayz? RUST? I havet a X1 2nd gen and it wont run them
>>52522742
Just get one of the new top line thinkpads coming out in a few weeks.
>>52523706
>I'm currently using a T450s
hows the battery life?
Is it your first thinkpad?
>>52522742
The one in pic is just fine. I'm writing from it.
>>52524144
Source? Release date?
>>52522814
>that linus tech video about how the mac book power throttles more than the phone.
>>52522742
get a used x240 and a large battery, small and almost 20 hours battery life.
if you think that's garage you are a cunt.
Also the XPS 13 is not bad, just expensive.
>>52526968
As a dell technician, i say the screens are pretty shit even compared to the inspiron who are the fucking worst.
they are those "i wanna be a mac, but im not, so i will retard my self up to the point i become as retarded as a mac"
get a latitude, or a thinkpad.
usefull stuff, despite they also try to look like a macbook
>>52522838
MacBook Pros only come in aluminum. MacBooks come in other colors.
>>52522755
macs are good but they're overpriced
can't get a good ultrabook mac for a grand
>>52522746
>poor reviews
You mean life the entirety of the tech world praising it?
Literally perfect. 14 inch chassis with a 15 screen and iris pro.
>>52527027
fair point.
but not all are shit and some offer some advantages over others on different aspects.
Personally I look for battery life, that's why I would recommend getting a refurbished or used x240 for a discount price.
>>52522742
Skylake x1 carbon
T450s
>>52527130
if you want something withing that [spoiler][/spoiler] (fuck, why no support for spoilers, fucking freedom respect) AESTHETIC yea, but you will lack of everything.
>>52527137
even this, it has 2 usb ports, no ethernet, and you are done, had in my hands a 3rd gen touch, it looked good, but a surface 3 looked even better, for battery life, despite how blocky it is, the elitebook 2540p with an I7 and 6gb (2 soldered) of ram, and with the biggest battery option wich is triangular, even rises the bottom a little and its not a fuckin oven, here is a pic i found, that thing with maximum power saving could be long enough, and compact enough.
>>52527206
I know that the large battery is fat and screws up the laptop shape, but the fact that you can have the huge ass battery and a regular one and carry those with you and exchange them whenever you want it's a plus.
I don't care for paper thin ultrabooks at all, they look kinda cool but I would rather have the swappable battery.
>>52527299
never saw if there is an option like this in the x240, the biggest battery is the internal one, the other one its think as a mousepad.
>>52522742
the new XPS13 / XPS15 are pretty good. Otherwise, Apple still makes good laptops
>>52527027
Whats wrong with the screens?
>>52522742
X1 carbon
>>52527059
Used air.
>>52522742
my tankpad yoga 12 2nd gen is working quite nicely.
>>52527027
>the screens are pretty shit
be specific?
>>52527480
because of the new lid bezels it's fatter.
Sometimes I think Lenovo is trying really hard to fuck up the thinkpads. I mean, like they have a team of engineers in a room brainstorming bad ideas to use on every new thinkpad line.
>>52527659
how's the LCD ghosting treating you?
to answer OP thread, the latitude e7440 is pretty much the last good ultrabook that is fully serviceable aside from the CPU. even has LTE in the touch screen models.
>>52527591
>>52527679
most of the xps i repaired has issues with the lvds cables, every single one i checked it has screen tears among or just going black when you move the hinges.
thats because of shitty factory tracing of the cable, sometimes the cable who goes to the webcam its bad traced, so it push the lcd panel and make drop splashes on the screen, wich eventually leave a mark, and then, taking that screen out and put it back again, thats gonna leave a mark, no matter how good you are, or how new are your scrap tools, you are fucked, and the laptop is fucked too.
>>52522742
Because every fucking ultrabook needs to be a flat piece of shit that sacrifices both construction quality/ruggedness and performance just so you can have a flat pancake device.
Just go for a 2010 era latitude or thinkpad. Might not be great on the graphical end, but the rest goes well.
What about the Asus UX305 or whatever that one is, or does it not classify as an ultrabook ?
>>52528050
>UX305
it's a cheap crippled device with a core M, nothing special
>>52522742
I think the best "normal" laptops right now are Dell's XPS line. Light, durable and nice battery life.
I got a Surface Pro 4 for myself though. I literally went paperless overnight, this thing is so good. Looks great, very functional and battery is sufficient for my schedule. Definitely recommend.
>>52528260
How's the surface pro working for normal typing?
>>52528294
I actually really like the keyboard. It's one of the better chicklet keyboards I've used, better than the XPS. The touchpad is very slippery(glass) but the gestures work well and scrolling is very smooth in M$ applications and decently smooth in everything else. Clicking by pressing touchpad is pretty loud though. It makes a deep, loud CLICK.
I have a wireless mouse and keyboard I use when I'm at home but I don't mind using the Surface keyboard for a couple of hours.
Check out my Funk Band, amigos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=andy1OOwb2g
Might as well post here.
I'm deciding between two XPS 13s.
One has Intel HD graphics 5500 and is about 150 cheaper.
The other has Intel 520 graphics.
All other specs are the same.
Is the better graphics card worth the upgrade? Or is the difference between cards insignificant?
>>52522883
People used to increase connectivity on laptops, why do this now? Are you guys seriously being brainwashed so that no ports seems better?
No way bitch, that shit could be half an inch thick and I'd still buy it but only if it had proper connectivity.
>carrying adapters around
Are we on the 2000's?
You guys are just being autistic.
>>52522808
>$999
>edu discount
>"it is just fine"
KEK
EEE
KEK
>>52527718
thanks for the answer
>>52528425
do you need the better graphics. For general use integrated 5500 is sufficient and I guess you can play games on low to mid settings (I don't play games on my laptop though)
>>52528237
have you seen benches?
they played skyrim on it...
>>52528425
post link to them
graphic is integrated in to the cpu
so you are maybe choosing between late 2015 model with skylake? maybe?
and previous one with haswell?
differences might not be only gpu
if it would be, then its most definitely not worht $150
@the dell technician - I have a XPS13 Skylake and it makes a lot of coil whining/buzzing noises. Is this something common on these notebooks?
>>52528427
Minimalism is the answer you seek.
Also,
>Thick laptop
>2016
Get with the times gramps
>>52528530
The Skylake chips make a high pitched noise when in low power state. I have the same issue with my SP4 but you only can hear it if you put your ear against the vents.
>>52528576
I tried disabling C-States and it still has a lot of high pitched noises - especially when connected to a power supply. Unfortunately I don't even have to get close to the notebook to hear it :/
>>52528576
I can assure you that cpu itself is not making noise
most likely its some ceramic capacitor
should have used tantalum...
>>52522755
I hate the design. Backlit chiclet keyboard, no buttons on the touchpad, very poor performance, and very poor connectivity. And OS X is utter garbage.
You could install Linux, but a lot of the firmware configuration requires OS X. You cannot update the firmware if you run Linux. And the retards at the Genius Bar will probably refuse to help you with hardware problems if you run Linux.
>>52528522
5500
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015PYYOZC/ref=psdcmw_565108_t3_B00W4LBHE6#featureBulletsAndDetailBullets_secondary_view_div_1453312358320
520
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9350-laptop/dncwt5149h
Dell also has the cheaper variant with the i3. Or is the i3 not preferable? Pls help
>>52527606
Shit screen, shit specs.
>>52528680
The specs are OK. They aren't great, but they're fine for an ultrabook. The shit screen is unacceptable, though.
>>52527091
>15" screen
>perfect
nah
>>52528692
The specs would be ok if the CPU wasn't throttled. The screen and God-forsaken keyboard bother me more, anyway.
>>52528703
That's true. Macs have such awful thermals that you can pretty reliably assume they'll get half the performance you expect.
The keyboard is crap, but sadly no one makes good keyboards any more.
>>52523706
>literally a non shit laptop
As opposed to what? Figuratively a non shit laptop? I swear you people become more illiterate by the hour.
>omg u r le autism xD
>>52528727
They ARE literally not shit. I don't know what your problem is.
>>52528744
Yes, anon, a laptop is literally not feces. Amazing.
>>52528719
Asus is still better than most. Of all the trends Apple started, the shit keyboards are the worst, followed closely by the thinness boner.
>>52528780
I'd put it the other way around. The shitty keyboards only apply to laptops. And even then I usually use an external keyboard. The thinness boner applies everywhere. It applies to laptops, mobile devices, and even fucking DESKTOPS (i.e. NUCs).
>>52522742
I have a Dell E7440, and it's not remotely "fucking garbage". Pretty reliable machine, has problems with heating, but it's OK, I love it.
Like the anon said (>>52527712) the new E7450 is shit. E7440s are still okay.
>people bitching about no buttons on touchpads
You'd have to be a literal retard to not know where right and left click are
Tap to click is way better anyway, because touchpads almost always have shitty inconsistent clicking pressure unless you have force touch like the Macbooks
I'd the lenovo P50 any good? Looks a bit pricy but seems pretty quality.
It's almost 6lbs though I always worry about looking like an autist taking out a big ass laptop in public
>>52528627
>no buttons on the touchpad
but apple actually do this really well desu
> OS X is utter garbage
it's not
How do intel 5500 graphics handle 2d games our league?
>>52529188
why do you need workstation specs
>>52529221
Visual studio, Android studio, light gaming, want it to last through college
>>52529207
>but apple actually do this really well desu
It's still awful. Apple makes the best shitty touchpad in the world.
<insert reaction image about premium shit>
>>52529188
Very quality. Very powerful.
>It's almost 6lbs though I always worry about looking like an autist taking out a big ass laptop in public
That's not that heavy.
And why do you care how you look? If you actually need a mobile workstation, no one will think you're an autist for having one. This is not a device for college or light gaming. It's a workstation. It is a professional tool.
>>52522742
razer's blade stealth starts at $999. QHD, skylake processor, 8gb RAM. honestly might not be a terrible option.
HP stream 2
>>52531015
>hp stream
>even remotely near ultrabook specs
kek
>>52522808
>spending 1000USD on a fashion accessory
Should have bought maxxed out one tbqh senpai
People will think you're poor if it's not in gold
>muh thin
- shit battery
- shit keyboard
- shit cooling
- shit performance
But...but...it's an ULTRA book so it's fashionable.
And my handbag is so Thin (TM) it can't possibly fit a 4cm thick device.
honestly just get one of the newer thinkpads and install arch friend
>>52522774
It would be but no thunderbolt
Zenpad pro and precision/xps are better because of this and they have better gpus too
>>52522774
T440p at least still has the ultrabay going for it
T460/p/s is basically DOA. Literally no reason to get any of them over the 500 series. T460s has no replaceable battery, 60p has no dedicated gpu, and the 60 is just a waste of a laptop that's only available as the cheap option, for which you could get a superior 450s or 440p for cheaper
>>52527712
never heard of or seen such an issue. only issue i know of is the matte screen protector wearing out a bit from using the pen too much. otherwise the laptop is nearly perfect (battery life could be a bit better i guess).
>>52528839
what did they change from the e7440 to e7450?
I want a goddamn 13" laptop with discrete graphics that isn't an Alienware or Razer.
I don't give two shits about thickness. Make it as thick as you have to. I would pay whatever Lenovo was asking if they offered an X2xx with an M1000 or even an 960M.
I fucking want discrete graphics without having to get a fuck heug 17.3" system or having to buy a gaymurr system that makes me look like a tool.
>>52532672
Auros
Sager
>>52522742
I like my Dell Chromebook 13.
Of course you have to replace the SSD and the bios to install Linux.
>>52532672
Also in the 15" non gay-mer category is
Zenbook pro ux501vw
Xps 15
ThinkPad p50 (best gpu, m2000m, but 5.5lbs and looks professional as fuck, not cheap gay-mer shit)
The first two are ultrabook options with full voltage cpus and gtx960m
>>52532672
Get the XPS 15 you fucking retard, i7 and a 960m inside and then please die
Infinity Display
3.9 pounds
>>52532740
>XPS 15
>http://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-15-2016-9550-InfinityEdge-Notebook-Review.156354.0.html
>>52522742
>ultrabook
That's your reason right there. You aren't part of their target demographic of retard consumers who think they need an ultraportable to do shit they should be using a tablet for.
Why the fuck would you faggots want to play games on a fucking ultrabook?
>>52532884
If /g/ has taught me anything in recent years involving 4k, laptops, etc it's that there are only two activities that people use computers for: Gaymes, and movie watching rigs.
>>52532672
How big is the surfacebook?
>>52532772
>putting a 4core HQ in an ultrabook
idiots
>>52532740
>infinity display
>15"
literally a waste of $300
>>52533458
>MFW i know you didn't read the detailed review i posted
Good job dipshit you ask for opinions and disregard everyone here has said, go fucking kill your self please
>>52533498
I did read it all and half of it was being retarded and falling for a HQ and Infinity display meme
>>52524224
Not the poster but my t450s battery life is a little underwhelming. It usually dies after like 4 hours but I tend to have the brightness in the higher end.
>>52533532
>Infinity display meme
Please tell me how the fuck its a meme? Or has /g/ as a whole decides that everything they dont agree with is now a meme all of a sudden?
How is the HQ a meme? Please it hardly throttles and when it dose its only when stress testing
>>52528934
The xps 13 has buttons it's just integrated into the touch pad like a mac.
>>52533574
Since when does apple make 3 inch bezels?
>>52533574
UHD on a 13" screen is literally a joke.
At best you might see sharper text fonts, that's it.
You're an idiot, enjoy scaling it until you're basically looking at 720p
>>52533668
You know you don't HAVE to get the UHD, you could go for the 1080p option, but for some reason i think that just might further enrage you. How do you get by in life if you have to make hard decisions?
>>52533574
Every time I see this image I don't understand what I'm looking at. Can someone explain to a moron like me what it's supposed to make me think or demonstrate?
>>52533707
Dell trying to convince to you buy their shitty screen by comparing it to two modified macbooks.
>>52533707
Its a over exaggeration on how thick screen borders are on laptops compared to the Dell's infinity display
>>52522893
>mac
>>52532688
>>52532708
>>52532723
>>52532740
Shit battery life, need that patented Thinkpad Power Bridge™ technology. Plus Sager and Aorus still have that gaymen aesthetic that I can't stand.
And 15" is still too big. 13" at the max is what I'm in the market for.
If Dell shat out a modern update of the M11x, I'd be all over it. I'd trade having to deal with the gaming bullshit for dat size.
>>52534905
Get the XPS13/15 then faggot. They're literally the same size as the MBA11/13 without applel's clownhueg bezels.
>I just want a light and fast laptop for a grand that isn't built like shit.
>>52534953
Why do you keep calling me a faggot?
>>52522808
>not shilling; I got the new macbook for $999 on edu discount, space gray, shit is nice. solid. ppl bitch about CPU speed but it is just fine.
Should've used eBay with financing.
>>52534905
>>>52532688
>>>52532708
>>>52532723
>>>52532740
>Shit battery life, need that patented Thinkpad Power Bridge™ technology. Plus Sager and Aorus still have that gaymen aesthetic that I can't stand.
>And 15" is still too big. 13" at the max is what I'm in the market for.
>If Dell shat out a modern update of the M11x, I'd be all over it. I'd trade having to deal with the gaming bullshit for dat size.
Dell XPS or Surface Pro 4
>>52533441
13.5 the dgpu is pure garbage, 940m with 1 gig of ram oh and if you breath on it wrong while using the gpu the system will brick
I had one for 2 months and still got a full refund so I'll give MS that....
Your expectations and your budget are not inclusive.
Why is deciding what is important to you and shopping around so fucking difficult ?
>next time OP posts
>"why are gaming laptops so heavy ? I just want a powerful and light gaming laptop"
>and for a grand and not built like shit
>>52523082
>>52528439
>>52531249
Jealous poor fags indentified
>>52522742
Samsung Series 9, or Samsung Ativ Book
/thread
Dells are great machines if you only use them at your desk. But if you actually travel and want to take your laptop with you, they just don't last. I can't believe I was stupid enough to buy a second XPS after the first one shit the bed and basically fell apart. The second one couldn't even make it through a month of backpacking. Got my first Thinkpad a couple months ago and I'm never looking back. Love my T450s. Kinda wish I held out for the new T460s though...
How big is the difference between 5th and 6th gen mobile intel processors?
>>52527659
why arent you using a tiling wm with that touchscreen?
>no ultrabook with an i7 quad core that is comparable to my VAIO Z from 2012
Razer Blade Stealth
>>52535022
>Dell XPS or Surface Pro 4
He doesn't seem to want anything thats real, so he can eat shit and die.
>>52522742
Lenovo x1 carbon
>>52528764
it kind of is because most laptops might as well be
>>52528627
>no buttons on the touchpad
Why is this a big deal for you? Is there some type of benefit from this?
>>52527059
Idk about the us but here in aus they're actually a good deal compared to windows alternatives.
Hp spectre x360. It's got at i7 in it and all aluminum body. Under a grand
I've been supremely satisfied with my asus ux305fa
>>52538162
I've never seen any retail outlet anywhere in aus that has a mac for under a thousand, the base model air is still $1399. For that money you could get a ux305 or something that actually has decent specs.
>>52522878
> macbooks are terrible for linux.
seconded senpai
>>52538202
this actually looks fucking perfect, shit
>>52538202
This seems too good to be true. Is it built well?
>>52528630
The 5500 has an older generation CPU so you'd get slightly less performance and worse battery life.
The 520 one has the new Skylake CPUs which are typically more efficient meaning it's probably more powerful and uses less battery power than the equivalent previous generation.
Basically the price difference is in performance and battery life. If you want better performance and battery life, get the one with the 520 GPU.
If all you do is basic web browsing, get the i3 version.
>>52522742
because they are trying to be a macbook pro
>>52539957
yeah, every other premium laptop is just a wannabe rMBP
>>52529188
>I always worry about looking like an autist taking out a big ass laptop in public
At least it's not the gaming alienware meme
>>52532672
Asus has the UX305 and it has a 940M
>13.3 inch
>dual-core CPU
>up to 16GB RAM
>940M option
>around $1000
did you not even try looking?
If you wanted a quad-core, that's a different story.
>>52539964
pretty much this, but the macbook pro isn't all that super powerful now. You can get a Xeon CPU if you wanted to on the mobile workstations.
>>52532645
as far as I know:
-they went to Broadwell (from Haswell),
-they've changed the keyboard to chiclet type,
-the cover doesn't feel plastic now (it feels a bit like leather, but it's not leather)
-it can have discrete nvidia 840M graphics card
-the cooling really shit, our helpdesk always has problems with this (E7440s are generally fine though)
-only comes with an SSD
I've seen people with E7450s, and everyone has some problem with it. I believe with time Dell manages to work on these things, and make it stable enough.
>>52539997
Yellow tint on display
Breaking hinges problem all over internet
Asus doesnt give a fuck about quality control
>>52538202
WHY DOESN'T THE 15.6" VERSION WITH BETTER GRAPHICS COME IN ASH SILVER AND COPPER? I DON'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE A MAC WANNABE
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
I love my XPS 15, minimal bezel, skylake, TB3 for eGPU, light, built amazing.
Think people just want to hate.
>>52522742
Got the xps 15 with a gtx960 its pretty gud brah
