what do you think about it?
>>52490813
shit app.
ex Gf cucked the fuck out of me on it.
Nice icon care to tell me wtf it means?
>>52490862
not him but I don't know that app either
what is it?
I saw it somewhere but didn't care
tell me the name
>>52490813
Its bots are pretty nice, I use it to send commands to my raspberrypi.
As for communicating with people, there are no people.
>>52490813
pretty neat, haven't moved away from it
>>52490854
rofl
>>52490869
>>52490854
There is a reverse image search button next to the image.
>>52490869
telegram
>>52490813
it's better than whatsapp in every way even if it doesn't call
it will eventually kill whatsapp the way facebook killed msn and myspace
>>52490881
I'm using clover
>>52490881
>>52490882
ah thanks
the reverse image search has been a 50/50 chance lately
images are sometimes not available to google and it can't search
anyone know why?
>>52490813
Whatsapp is better, they will get fucking destroyed now since its free.
It would be "OK" if they added calls/video calls
>>52490900
So am I you fucking retard.
>>52490882
In this case I take back that it's a nice logo.
You don't send telegrams via paper airplane
>>52490813
It looks like a bad paper airplane, it probably doesn't even float - it immediately goes nose down.
>>52490913
1. Didn't know the feature was there, thank you
2. It doesn't work anyway lol
>>52490870
this.
I mainly installed it to see if it was normie friendly enough to recommend to people.
but everyone I know prefer to get a regular text
>>52490928
You are correct on point 2. Thanks be to based
>>52490882
>>52490854
Telegram
there are several objective reasons telegram it's a valid app
>share every kind of file
>gif support
>bots
>stickers
>desktop version
>autodestruction timer on secret chats
>was made by a russian
>>52490813
Twitter is safer. Egyptian political dissidents on twitter don't get caught. But egyptian telegram users get caught and jailed. Telegram likely cooperates with totalitarian states to jail their users. Or Telegram is easy to crack for totalitarian states.
>>52490928
It works for me, which version are you using?
Telegram is very nice and has a lot of cool features WhatsApp doesn’t. But the default communication mode is plaintext and its crypto is dubious apparently.
The secure alternative, Signal, is really damn lacking in features.
>>52490813
Best messaging app I've ever used.
>>52490839
You being a cuck doesn't make the app shit.
>>52490978
>autodestruction timer on secret chats
you can also delete whatsapp chats, they are also deleted from the archive
>inb4 muh NSA still has the chatlogs
same goes for your deleted chats in telegram
>>52491057
>>autodestruction timer on secret chats
I haven't used Telegram a lot but IIRC, this also deletes the chat from the others phone.
In short: No one I know uses it
>>52490813
Its good, it doesnt lag, its nice styled and shit, it has security options BUT I hate the part that my gf is talking with someone and as soon as I check who is it, its only me, while I havent recieved a massage from her for at least a week... i guess im am being cucked
>>52491018
1.2.11
>>52491109
>>52490839
Is this a meme?
>>52491071
>I haven't used Telegram a lot but IIRC, this also deletes the chat from the others phone.
But anyone can get it by asking Telegram and provide a little money.
>>52491117
Try the latest beta, the one which got released yesterday
Shit app.
>no voice chats
>no secret chats on desktop
>adds people from your phone contacts list without your consent
>automatically adds people to your contacts when they sign up, without your consent
>requires a phone number to use
why the fuck are people falling for this awful meme
>>52491109
lmao im laughing so hard because this is what happened to me.
>>52491134
No this seriously happened to me. I'd check it sometimes and would notice that she was just on it and every time I'd ask her about it she'd say she wasn't on. She even tried to hide her status from me which was hell. ALSO to make matters worse I knew who the guy who. Someone she just considered a "friend" but you know shit happened.
>>52491052
It's just a shit app fuck telegram
>>52491223
>I knew the guy who
Wat
>>52491539
Meant I knew who the guy was. He was someone she considered just a "friend"
>>52491172
>adds people from your phone contacts list without your consent
>automatically adds people to your contacts when they sign up, without your consent
>requires a phone number to use
Isn't this pretty much all phone messaging apps? All those who have a userbase anyway.
>>52491722
Yes, WhatsApp and Signal do it. It's pretty normal and actually desired.
>>52490839
So it's good for privacy.
>>52490813
I think it's useless to me because no one of my contacts uses it. My country is whatsapp country.
>>52490854
yfw you're not a tripfag named Jordan.
>>52491631
no need to spy on her, nor do a jealous boyfriend drama queen scene. just tell her you don't like things being hidden and if she is cheating on you you will break her soul.
Remember to smile while you say all this to her.
>>52491752
It can't at least ask you before importing your co-workers and family members to your contacts list?
I like how Telegram shills use privacy as a feature and then defend shit like this. What is so special about this messenger that makes people want to shill it so hard?
Telegram has no encrypted group chats, only for one-on-one chats. It has weak cryptography, and no proper identity verification.
Just use Signal. With proper identity verification and ephemeral end-to-end encryption, Google's got nothing on you.
>>52492306
The problem with signal is that everything else about it is shit.
>>52490839
my wife's son uses it too!
>>52492047
>ex gf
I'm afraid it's too late
>>52492306
this
it works great, non-tech-savvy friends are using it as well. I usually present it as a messenger app without all the fb messenger bullshit and just the good stuff.
>>52492327
>I'd miss my stickers too much.
>>52492444
More things like file transfer, just photo sharing and limited audio clip sharingis bad. Maybe it's to be compatible to MMS but it sucks.
>>52492232
filesharing is a big plus for me. limit is around 1.5gb per file or something.
>>52492306
signal is actually pretty good
Why so many permissions though?
>>52492614
+ Device ID & call information
>>52490839
Hi moot! Nice to see you back.
>>52490813
Pretty good, but it doesnt matter because like its been said nobody uses it. The only person I know who does is a tinfoil conspiratard.
>>52491107
This.
>>52492781
>>52491107
remember when people actually switched between different social networks? remember myspace?
>>52490895
It's less reliable. The servers are down at least 3 times a day. Messages arrive late or never.
But even if they get the reliability of whatsapp, normal people don't give a flying fuck about it, so what's the point of a messager if you have no contacts.
>>52492809
You mean like everybody said the same would happen with path or g+?
>>52492306
Does this have encrypted voice call?
>>52493023
yes but only if you have internet connection AFAIK.
>>52492464
File transfers are indeed not (yet) possible. On the other hand, unlike Telegram, Signal supports encrypted VoIP calls (which in all fairness needs some improving).
>>52493023
Yes it does.
>>52493058
Yes indeed.
>>52493136
And this may be dumb to you but, I like that WhatsApp and Telegram have avatar/display pics, rather than using the contact book pic you would pick yourself.
>>52493175
You're right, and yes, it seems really trivial to me. :)
>>52490854
Airplane
>>52493261
Another thing nice about Telegram are the channels and bots. Signal is just too barebones and not ambitious enough. If Signal could replicate all of Telegrams functions, that would be nice.
>>52491857
There was a guy named jordan that used this then this guy tripexplorer'd it and started using it as his own. Was at the "Clover suspended" thread yesterday
>>52490928
It works you stupid negro
>>52493261
Nice grammar fix bruh
>>52492047
wasn't spying and i told her but then she flipped shit and made excuses. Also keyword "Ex" she's no longer with me.
> Enable Signal as default SMS
> Go to new messsage
> All the names/numbers are double
Is this because of WhatsApp being in the contact book or what?
Oh look: it's another Telegram shill thread, courtesy of Pavel Durov's PR department. (You could at least use a different OP image.) Pasta time:
tl;dr: Telegram sucks. For a phone messenger, today, use Signal instead.
- Telegram doesn't even encrypt most things: https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/678065993587945472
- Telegram's MTProto 'secret chat' encryption is complete shit: https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/582245625103826944
Signal is a competently-designed, open-source (client AND server), end-to-end IND-CCA2 forward-secure phone messenger. Even Snowden recommends it: https://twitter.com/snowden/status/661313394906161152
Yes, Signal is imperfect. Here are the negatives:
- It requires a phone. Not uncommon with phone messengers, but a pity for all those who'd like to finally kill, say, Skype.
- Signal can't protect communication metadata. That is an open research problem: Ricochet & Tor Messenger are best current solutions, but neither protect against global passive attackers (i.e. NSA) or are very good for phone batteries.
- Signal requires Google Cloud Messaging to wakelock phones on message delivery (but not FOR message delivery) - unfortunately GCM is the only reliable supported wakelock on Android 6.x+. [There is a nogapps Websockets fork - https://github.com/xmikos/fdroiddata - but that will drain your battery: that's the price you pay for no wakelocks.]
- They took out the encrypted SMS transport: because iPhones could not also support it (programmatic SMS disallowed by Apple).
- Signal has a desktop client, but that's a Google Chrome app that syncs to your phone. It works, but is far from ideal.
But it is the best we have right now.
The rest of this thread will, if history is any guide, probably be used to argue over the status of different desktop messengers, or userbases. Some cypherpunks are reaching for perfection here - but open research problems take time to solve. Until then, at least use something that doesn't suck.
>>52493350
Also
> Disable mobile data and WiFi, send a test message to someone with Signal
> It doesn't send
It doesn't fall back to SMS? There doesn't seem to be an option to force sending as SMS to a contact that has Signal.
>>52493274
I'll agree that Signal could be much more if they also implemented more features. However, all those features I can live without because security outweighs it for me, by far. I'll agree that Telegram has some nice features, but so does WhatsApp, yet both real suck because they consistently implement pseudo security.
Take WhatsApp, it sends its media messages in plain text, but only advertises the fairly good encryption of normal text message. I said fairly good because without rolling your own keys and validating other people's public keys, it's not how encryption is supposed to be done, certainly not end-to-end encryption.
And Telegram still rolls their own cryptography while there's really no need for that at all. We have enough good cryptographic protocols and cipher suites already, but for some reason they wanted to design their own cryptography, which has been proven weak already.
>>52493434
Oh, long press the send button, I got it.
Another problem: once you start sending SMS with Signal, you can't use SMS Backup and Restore to back the newly sent SMS up it seems. That's a pity and turns me off using it for SMS if I can’t move them to a new phone, or save them for a factory reset.
>>52490870
>bot
which bot please? can't find the one you're talking about
>>52493519
I use Titanium Backup to backup my applications. When you backup Signal using Titanium, it backs up your settings, messages, but also your private key that has been generated during installation. So when you migrate to a new phone, you don't need to bother people with them needing to verify your new public key.
> No one uses Telegram
> So use Signal
Literally only 1 contact using it, how am I going to convince WhatsApp groups to switch to this
>>52494314
this
Its literlly perfect
