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What is BSD good for?
everything
>>52480999
Absolutely nothing.
Pretending you're superior, may even fool yourself
>>52480999
To escape from planet systemd, it seems.
Trips checked.
>>52483198
Different philosophy != superiority
>>52480999
Not for recognizing modern network cards, last time I checked..
>>52483464
THIS. Sole reason I could not use BSD.
>>52480999
having a pretty basic unix-like system w/o dealing w/ distro philosophy, or any nebulous dependency fuckery, just './configure && make' dependency fuckery instead
>>52480999
Well OpenBSD is routing master
>>52483464
>TFW I can't get any 10GbE network cards that I have to work on my FreeNAS box.
fml
No intel card support, why
Why is Beastie so unsure?
>>52480999
Base OS for OS X.
>>52485646
depending on which bsd you're using.
but they're descended from the same system, i guess
i just installed freebsd on my server earlier today. I tried mounting some usb drives with an ext4 filesystem but it didnt work. does bsd have ext4 support and how can i get it to work
>>52485697
no, bad does not have ext4 support.
there might be 3rd-party ext2 or ext3 support, but no ext4 for you.
maybe you should've asked before installing.
reformat & set up sftp, nfs, or nas, or replace w/ linux
>>52485777
zfs is superior anyway
>>52485818
yes, it is, but it requires @ least 8gb to run smoothly. & i use ufs anyway, b/c i don't particularly need zfs
>>52485937
*8gb of ram
>>52485937
My NAS runs smoothly on 4. You're full of it mate.
>>52485777
well it turns out that ext4fuse exists, which got my 2gb flashdrive mounted, but it wont work with my 3tb external hard drive. it just gives me this errorAssertion failed: (pread_ret == 1024), function pread_wrapper, file disk.c, line 47.
Abort trap
is there any hope, or do i have to reformat
also nice chmod trips
>>52485529
FreeBSD have package manager. Just type "pkg install PACKAGE".
I just got a call from the owner of a hotel for which we provide hotspot service. She says that a guest spotted the "Powered by FreeBSD" logo at the bottom of the login page, and was offended; the guest was convinced that either we or the hotel management "worshipped the Devil" and refused to stay at the hotel unless the logo was removed. The owner could make no headway by explaining that the besneakered mascot was a cartoon character and was a daemon, not the Devil. And she feared upsetting the guest even more if she said that large portions of the same software are inside every Mac and iPad. The hotel stands to lose more than $1000 if the guest, who had originally planned to stay for a long period, moves out.
One of our tech support people also got a call directly from the hotel guest, who claimed that having the logo on the page constituted "abuse." The guest also claimed to be "losing money" because she wouldn't use the hotspot if there was a "devil" on the splash page. He didn't even realize what she was talking about at first.... He couldn't imagine why on Earth this person was calling him and going on about devils.
Attempts at misguided religious censorship notwithstanding, I don't want to see one of my ISP's customers lose business. And I'd like to keep a FreeBSD logo on our hotspot page. Is there artwork that doesn't include horned creatures that might offend the ignorant or superstitious?
>>52483171
Underrated post
I use an older version FreeBSD as a means to play Quake 2. Running games from the mid 1990s is a bitch with modern operating systems like windows 7 and 10. But that's just my personal philosophy.
>>52480999
What is a good & easy first project for a newbee to use openBSD for?
For instance a mail server?
Sony uses FreeBSD in their console and give absolutely nothing in return. And they don't have to.
The BSD license is the ultimate cuck license
>>52490139
A firewall/NAT device. Pf is olev.
>>52490165
>give absolutely nothing in return.
Nice maymay faggot, but they do.
>>52490331
give what? an nice thank you letter?
>thnx 4 all your years and years of hard work
>-sony
>>52483171
/thread
Did I >>52490139
A mail server would be a pretty good start. If wanted to start smaller that that I'd suggest making an OpenBSD VM and trying to install some old classics like quake 2 or some other options available on the BSD platform.
>>52490321
I dont understand how this would fit into my home network architecture - could you explain further please? with an example of how it would help me? thank you
>>52490421
Seconding a bit of a basic explanation to someone who is curious about doing this.
>>52490415
ty but i dont want to build an os to play a game on it, i want to build something useful on it, with a purpose that could help me in some small way
>>52483198
says the tripfag
>>52489760
Switch to OpenBSD I'm sure no one will have an issue with the mascot.
>>52480999
If you want an with up-to-date software, ZFS, DTrace, containers and Valgrind, FreeBSD is the best in test.
>>52490487
i keep getting confused - which is the best BSD for a beginner - open or free bsd?
>>52480999
Routers
>>52490519
freebsd is probably easier but openbsd usually works better for laptops ootb.
freebsd doesn't even have stable haswell gfx support yet.
>>52489760
I will never understand why anyone would choose to have a devil-like horned creature as a logo for a product or software they want people to use. It is inevitably going to have a negative impact on the product either directly through being passed over for other options or by proxy like in the case you described. It's so easy to choose a logo that will not upset religious and/or overly sensitive people. Using a potentially offensive logo is like naming your OS Gay Ass Unix or Dog Shit Linux. I'm sure a handful of people can easily get past the name, but a lot of people will ignore it no matter how good reviews the OS gets because they don't want something called Dog Shit and they don't want to live in fear of customers finding out their family-friendly company is run on Gay Ass Unix.
>>52490627
GIT comes to mind
>>52490594
Does FreeBSD come with a GUI out of the box like OpenBSD?
>>52490627
we're the devils!
>>52490703
Nope, but there is something called PC-BSD which comes with a graphical installer and all.
PC-BSD is the most user friendly BSD right now, and it's based on FreeBSD.
>>52490627
The open source community does have a few edgy individuals. Theo, Linus, the list goes on. I mean just look at the do whatever the fuck you want license. That's a thing.
>>52490732
Their get-out-of-jail card is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Devil
Still a dumb decision from a business standpoint, though.
Nothing as far as an average desktop user is concerned. All its software is Linux ports. If I needed a server, I'd use BSD instead of Linux though.
>>52490627
The people who get offended by a cartoon devil logo are also offended by Harry Potter for promoting witchcraft. They're the conservative version of the "safe spaces" kids who think freedom of expression ends where their hurt feelings begin.
>>52490627
GNU uses baphomet, free software is at its core evil and against all things human.
>>52490421
>>52490461
It would essentially replace your router, which you can still keep as a wifi access point if you turn off its dhcp server.
You might not feel you need this, but it's an easy first project and you'll learn a bit about networking doing it.
>>52490805
Could be, but I think there are more people who feel uneasy about a logo like that than just the people who would make noise about it. Those people would just silently steer clear of stuff that is connected to it.
>>52489760
Is this really what Murrika is like?
>>52490113
Do you think FreeBSD could cut it for general retro console emulation?
>>52490703
You want to look into either PC-BSD, GhostBSD, MidnightBSD or DesktopBSD (though last one was discontinued IIRC?), all of them are FreeBSD based
>>52490627
>implying I don't use Fat Dog Linux just because of the name
![1334329164853[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b9X64qt.jpg "1334329164853[1].jpg")
>>52489760
>And I'd like to keep a FreeBSD logo on our hotspot page.
There's literally no reason for this. Just get rid of it.
>>52491202
dont listen to him. its a logo. just keep it and ignore the one crazy woman
>>52491202
Plenty of sites do this. It is perfectly fine.
This may be slightly off topic, but does anyone know a y good desktop environments for BSD?
>>52480999
That little devil reminds me of the Fuze UT frag movie.
>>52480999
It's for satanists who want to taste hell before going there.
>>52491463
It's unprofessional.
>>52490627
>implying I don't use fedora which is named after a meme
>>52491557
Muh professionalism
>>52490483
i like openbsd but this is the most homosexual cartoon fish i've ever seen
>>52491903
I'm glad you like it, faggot.
>>52490879
You could probably even get rid of the router completely if you have the right wi-fi network card in your computer, right? I think some wi-fi cards can actually transmit wi-fi signals instead of just receiving.
>>52491918
no bully
>>52490805
Conservative people have a lot of money, any business owner with a bit of intelligence would also find it too offensive to use because he would lose out on money.
>>52491413
Or the tons of filthy rich conservatives that rather spend a premium to give money to a competitor of you instead of using your services.
>>52491489
Literally none of them, except maybe XFCE.
You're better off using just a window manager. OpenBSD's CWM is possibly one of the greatest window managers ever made.
>>52491903
freebsd is literally made by faggots. Which is why their logo is anti-christian.
>>52492000
>OpenBSD's CWM is possibly one of the greatest window managers ever made.
>>52492022
just try it
>>52492039
>implying I haven't
>>52491679
You're fired
>>52480999
>What is BSD good for?
unpaid labor to fill the pockets of apple and sony
>>52492091
>>52492074
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man5/cwmrc.5?query=cwmrc&sec=5
how can you go wrong with a config file like this?
>>52492134
Do you have a screenshot of a your setup?
>>52492120
Did you file for unemployment yet?
>>52492198
Sure, I made it look like Plan 9 on purpose, because I felt like it.
You could really rice it if you wanted to, though. I gotta think about adding a gap and getting a status bar on top.
>>52485646
/thread
>>52485562
>what is ixgbe?
Not all of them work but most of the ones I had worked flawlessly, check the compatibility list at https://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/support.html
>>52492278
Another kind of OpenBSD-related window manager that's good is Spectrwm. It's practically an easy-to-use version of DWM.
Also has sane key bindings out of the box from what I remember.
>>52483388
Plenty of good os's don't have systemd.
> install /g/entoo
>>52489760
Delicious copypasta.
>>52490139
OpenBSD makes a great mail server since everything you need but Dovecot and possibly webmail is right in the base install. Set up spamd in front of OpenSMTPd, get some certs from Let's Encrypt, pkg_add dovecot, and go.
>>52480999
It's good for scaring rednecks.
http://rmitz.org/freebsd.daemon.html
>>52489760
Tell her to fuck off into to her safe zone, and that your company forbids you from doing business with retarded people
>>52492820
>replying to ancient copypasta
>>52492726
>getting pop3/imap servers
>not just connecting through ssh and reading your mail there
>>52492983
IMAP lets me get my email on my phone, and allows me to make backup copies of my email with OfflineIMAP on my fileserver via cron.
>>52493048
but muh larger attack surfaces
>>52493066
Have you tried disconnecting your mailserver from the internet to reduce the amount of attack surfaces?
>>52493066
Run VPN on phone, autism solved.
