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Is there even a browser that doesn't suck?
Chrome
>not as fast as it used to be
>botnet
Safari
>no webm support
>doesn't work on the google search page, wtf
Iridium
>based on chromium
Firefox
>cucked by SJW's
>gay layout
Chromium
>have to manually update
Opera
>is there anything advantageous here?
Pale moon
>based on firecuck
Edge
>windows only
mfw current year still no good browser
>>52465295
Opera
>based on Chromium
17/01/2016 2:42:15.000 PM kernel[0]: Google Chrome He[44813] triggered unnest of range 0x7fff8d000000->0x7fff8d200000 of DYLD shared region in VM map 0x4ef25bc4cfe2177d. While not abnormal for debuggers, this increases system memory footprint until the target exits.
Firefox has so many real problems and you chose to list the most shitty irrelevant ones
Chrome still works the best overall
It's kinda a strange age we live in when there just isn't a outright good browser.
>>52465566
Chrome and Firefox are perfectly fine.
It's just everyone is a spoiled entitled piece of little shit that will never be satisfied.
Maybe go back to fucking internet explorer 6
Vivaldi
>based on safari, based on chrome
>confirmed botnet
>>52465596
meant to say
>based on Opera, based on chrome
>confirmed botnet
>>52465535
agree.
the only thing i hate about chrome is when webms go all goofy if they're a certain size
it's pretty rare though, so I can deal with it
>>52465566
checked
>>52465592
I don't agree they are fine really.
You being satisfied doesn't really make me like those browsers bullshit.
I actually don't mind the direction Mozilla is heading with the browser core the only problems I have is with the removal of features from the interface mostly to dumb things down and the addition of features that should actually be extensions.
>>52465295
>Chromium
>>have to manually update
pacman -Syu
PM is based on an old version of FF before it went batshit crazy. The developer even said that PM won't be following anything in the development cycle of FF.
Seamonkey.
Come on /g/
So, I'm gonna be perfectly fine staying with FF?
>>52465295
Canary, faster than everything you posted combined and you get the latest updates.
>>52465922
>latest updates
Latest Botnet?!?!?!? Oooooh, goodie
>>52465938
If you care about the botnet meme then why are you connected to the internet?
>>52465955
Internet isn't a botnet, that's what NAT is for buddy.
>>52465295
Is it the browser that sucks or is it the web that sucks. Now I'm not oldfag enough, but I do think there was a time when the average webpage wasn't riddled with random bloated scripts, useless ads and complicated css layouts. Browsers will only get more and more bloated and slow to keep up with the ever expanding complicated mess the web is growing into.
>mfw web 2.0
>>52465922
garbage
>>52466047
>I do think there was a time when the average webpage wasn't riddled with random bloated scripts, useless ads and complicated css layouts
It's the web that sucks. Specifically when web 2.0 happened. Turn on no-script and 3/4 sites break. There's far too much reliance on java instead of following the KISS principle.
Am I the only one that notices that in Linux, Firefox doesn't properly format boards on 4chan?
Such as reply links are crossed out and many parts of the native extension are broken.
Chrome is pretty sweet right now. Don't know when but some time ago, they added an optional function to not load tabs unless you open them for the first time, so I can keep some YouTube videos open, some other websites close all tabs and when I start up chrome only the last tab I had open loads and no 6 YouTube tabs which start to scream
>>52465295
I think you should just stop browsing the internet.
>>52466099
this is why i had to come back to windows.
the only thing i used my computer for and that was broken.
How do I get rid of this bullshit in Firefox?
muh botnet
>>52465989
NAT
> not double NATing at a minimum
It's like you want to be tracked
>>52466099
>>52466125
Considering I'm browsing 4chin with Firefox on Linux right now with no problems whatsoever? Maybe. I doubt the problem is the base program. Check your extensions?
>>52465295
Is there even a browser *engine* that doesn't suck?
Blink
>botnet
>millions and millions of loc
Dillo
>no frames, incomplete css, no javascript
>tied to Dillo
EdgeHTML
>microsoft
>proprietry
Gecko
>millions and millions of loc
GtkHTML
>tied to Gnome, aka shit
Hubbub
>tied to Netsurf
>minimal javascript support
iCab, Netfront, Presto, Prince XML, Tasman, The Bat!, Trident, XEP
>proprietry, also some of them are dead
KHTML
>tied to KDE, aka tightly integrated shit
Servo
>incomplete
>SJW infested
Webkit
>probable botnet
>millions and millions of loc
Palemoon is a really good browser, crazy low RAM usage and just works. But since 99% of you will dismiss it because it's a Firefox fork without even trying it, I won't bother justifying. Try it yourself
>>52465295
>have to manually update
install an operating system
UC browser
>>52466275
what's loc?
>>52468276
>comes to /g/
>doesn't know "lines of code"
>>52468331
I'm sorry.
>>52466275
Try qwant
>>52468376
...that is a fucking search engine, anon.
Otter Browser is the spiritual successor to old Opera.
>>52466275
How is "millions and millions of loc" a negative. Supporting decades of web standards takes millions of lines of code, yes. The web is basically an operating system inside your existing OS nowadays, it's hardly surprising web engines are complex.
>>52465295
>Not using a browser because of muh sjw's
Care to explain your reasoning behind this? SJW'S do not effect the quality of the code.
>>52465592
Firefox isn't fine. It leaks memory like crazy
>>52466275
EdgeHTML might be the best..
>>52468864
Having such ridiculous amounts of code severely limits the number of people with the time and skill to understand and work on it, to the point where it might as well be closed source and the potential for undetected bugs is much higher. Also, as demonstrated by some of the other engines on the list, those millions and millions of loc (eg Firefox is about 14mil) are about two orders of magnitude more than necessary.
>>52468900
I was leaning towards Hubbub, myself. I should download Netsurf and see if it's any good.
>>52468158
Seamonkey's footprint is even lower.
>>52465295
>cucked by SJW's
What a retard would not use browser for political reason?
>>52468864
>>52468906
Seriously, for fuck's sake, one of the official reasons Google forked Blink off Webkit was the absurd amount of code cruft.
>>52468960
Is it possible to write a browser that doesn't have millions of loc that supports all web standards?
>>52468941
Many microsoft haters, apparently
It's pointless to try anything with browsers until we cleanse the internet with fire. There are too many outdated technologies that we're only now beginning to stand up to. We've never started over, just tacked more and more bullshit onto a system that was only made to view text files.
>>52468990
Dillo (85k loc) and Netsurf (284k loc) both support most of html/css and the latter also a bit of javascript. So I'd say yes.
>>52468990
yes, just put everything on to one line
:^)
>>52465295
SeaMonkey Master Race
>>52465816
>>52468929
>>52469086
I love Seamonkey on my desktop with the Stratini Artemia theme, but I have occasional stuttering when loading web pages. The fact that you can't highlight a text link to open it in a *background* tab is a big con for me.
>>52465566
found one
qutebrowser
what do you think?
wget example.com
less file.html
only way2browse
>>52469270
I've been using qutebrowser for a few months now and it's pretty fucking great. The only thing it's lacking I'd per domain css, but I know that's in one of the project milestones
>>52465345
Sadly you're right
>>52469287
>mfw Stallman actually does this and to cherry the cake he makes a remote server wget the page html file
>>52465295
vivaldi?
>>52465295
>implying that's why any of those browsers suck
>>52465596
>>52465612
>I don't understand the difference between Chromium and Chrome.
>>52466090
>I don't understand the difference between JavaScript and Java.
>>52465295
Maxthon
>no extensions
>>52466275
You'll never get a good engine without millions and millions of loc. There's too much stuff they need to do.
Links2
>>52470916
Intercede>>52465799
I used PM for a while but many of my extensions would not work. Meh.
>>52465535
You chromewhore, everything indicate that edge or latest ie is faster...
>>52465295
>Opera
>is there anything advantageous here?
It has some of the features from the old Opera, but not everything has been ported yet. Maybe some features will never come back. Opera is overall better than Chrome
>Pale moon
>based on firecuck
It doesnt have the same layout as Firefox and is not SJW infested
Yandex Browser and Vivaldi are pretty good
>>52465535
maybe if you have 128gb of RAM
>>52468888
quads have spoken
>>52465989
>that's what NAT is for buddy.
Do you even know what NAT stands for?
>>52465295
Both of your points on FF are moot so I suggest you use FF?
>>52466140
setbrowser.suggest.<stuff>to false
>>52466275
It's either millions of LoC or breaking backward compatibility with some standards.
Why doesn't /g/ do something productive and create it's own browser?
>>52477956
>implying /g/ can
desktop threads reach bump limit within 30 mins for a reason
Palemoon vs seamonkey.
Pale is lighter, more web browser. Seamonkey is trying to cram multiple programs into one, like mozilla suite. I don't need the built in ftp/irc etc. If that is all it has to offer then palemoon is the way to go.
But with pale moon will I have to go through the same processes of changing privacy measures that are required in FF (all the about:config telemetry, predictive loading etc) or do those features not exist or are already turned off?
Just trying to work out the full reasoning behind the need to switch if most bad features can be turned off in FF. Yes I get that mozilla will soon kill all that made it good years ago, but until then it just works.
>>52478261
There's a /dpt/ like twice a day. Someone here has to less retarded than the rest.
>>52471463
Still bloated
>>52468376
How many keks do we give this guy?
>>52465512
I use Firefox but I'm ignorant. What are the disadvantages
>>52470045
Are you fucking serious?
what the fuck is happening to my firefox
>laggy as fuck interface
>hangs when switching tabs
>hangs when scrolling through tabs
>hangs when opening new tabs
tried safe mode with addons disabled, same shit
this thing is fucking broken
tried chromium with same amount of tabs - blazing fast(though i hate that tabs shrink and can't see shit but favicon)
>>52476047
>thinking that processing all the relevant versions of HTML/CSS requires millions of loc
See >>52469039
>>52480409
>roll out 10 updates a month
>break everything
Going to give seamonkey a try.
Any recommended addons?
Fucking love Firefox but recent updates fucked my shit up so jumped over to palemoon which is nice, does the job well. Might check out seamenmonkey next.
>>52480339
Seems it's a meme/bait so that ppl who forget to update chromium get pwnd.
Firefox has (2015) smaller mem footprint and executes js faster, botnet can be deactivated and has more useful addons but as the api will be changed it may change as well.
>>52468888
I am a messy ugly guy and have on average 30-60 tabs open (with tabtree it's usable). I never exceeded 400MiB. Tell me your story anon.
>>52483288
What?
You mean 4000mb right?
It uses more than 400 on startup
>>52465295
qutebrowser is the only choice
any ohter and you're basically sayin you being a turtle
have fun taking 10 seconds cliking on a image when I can do it in .05
>>52465295
>>52468828
Thanks I will try this out, Opera was really the slickest browser in memory (before and after customization)
Vivaldi
>>52465295
>>cucked by SJW's
>>gay layout
woah there senpai"
totally TeChNoLoGy related!
>>52465592
/thread
>>52475699
no just dont open 9000 tabs like a retarded fuck
>>52475755
LOL OMG
I'M CRYING SENPAI
>>52465295
>safari
>no webm support
>what are plugins
>>52465295
>gay layout
You do know that Firefox is the only one that allows you to actually change the gay layout right?
>>52465295
>why does fireshit and chromenet win the browser wars?
>addons
I hate firefox so fucking much (I hate chrome more) but I can't switch from firefox because it has the addons I want. If someone would just make a blank slate webbrowser with unlimited addon extendability it would be literally perfect.
It's not really about what browser you like anymore. It's about which one you can tolerate. I'm using Chromium, but Chromium doesn't have the option to delete all cache/history on exit. So my shortcut has "--incognito" which is not a perfect solution because Google still tracks you.
dae wanna build a new "web"?
>>52489852
why is everything all fucked up
Is Vivaldi any good?
>>52489852
This looks horrific. Just install Beyond Australis.
>>52483445
How can browser be slow? your internet connection is just shit
>>52490713
>>52490767
What's bad with it?
Dwb fucks every other browser is the ass.
>>52473834
You don't need that many extensions just to load up random shitty maymay websites.
>>52490905
The address bar is on the same level as the tabs. For what purpose?
>>52465592
Firefox doesn't even render HTML5 properly. Fuck off with your wrong opinions.
>>52491059
>go to youtube
>click any video
>as soon as player shows up click theatre mode (not fullscreen)
>player won't resize and buttons on lower right corner disappear
is this bug only on firefox?
>>52491138
Yes I noticed that too. It's been since ~10 days or so.
>>52491033
I did have it looking somewhat like this for quite a while. But I just didn't like all that empty space the address bar was taking up.
>>52465295
>firefox
>gay layout
>compared to chrome
You just posted whatever came to mind, didn't you? Why are chrome users all violently retarded?
>>52465345
Vivaldi is also based on Chromium and doesn't suck nearly as much.
>>52491255
All their RAM is used up by Chrome so they can't do much more than shitpost on 4chan.
>>52489852
>>52491242
Look what we have here. I didn't expect someone to have the same thing in mind as me. I merged mine also.
>>52490790
You know how in chrome when you open a new tab it has this little animation that opens it from the left? Like, it goes ZOOM and opens a new tab, lol?
Firefox doesn't have that, it's slow as fuk.
>>52491242
>dat horrible pixel art
Use some filters, nigga
>>52491298
all my tabs on firefox opens instantly, i don't know how fast you gotta go, but mines going fast enough.
>>52491298
False, here's a 60FPS webm I did myself.
>>52491352
Yeah but you're using some custom faggot skin, that doesn't count.
>>52491393
WHAT AN ARGUMENT! Holy shit. I want to stand up and clap. Stay where you at, I'm gonna make a webm just for you.
>>52491415
>I made a webm therefore I'm right
Don't be that guy, anon. You're better than this.
Midori.
>>52491431
Oh no, I'll be *that* guy. And every chromefag claiming Firefox is slow - after e10s came out - will be proven wrong.
Although making webms for 4chan is kinda painful, only 3 MBytes size limit.
>>52491393
Well, it looks like shit because low bitrate and because I used webm4retards, but here you go.
Oh shit, looks like the last part didn't fit. But I'll deliver it.
>>52491352
>>52491548
>60 fps
>still looks like shit
Done. Probably should make a better webm one day.
>>52491647
550 kbit\s. And I'm not talking looks, I'm talking smoothness, and Firefox has that.
>>52465345
This.
Just what the hell are they doing over in Norway? They just about stripped out or gimped just about anything that made the browser worth using.
>>52491313
>horrible
That pixel art is awesome. Don't hate :(
>>52492216
How did you merge, with the Line addon or with CSS?
>>52492216
ejaculating
>>52492256
CSS
>>52465295
>>52465345
Why is Chromium bad? Providing it's properly vetted, something like Opera seems GOAT. Thoughts?
>>52465596
>>52465612
Chrome and Chromium are different, dickhead
>>52468864
>The web is basically an operating system inside your existing OS nowadays,
This gentleman has zero idea what he is talking about, please disregard his moronic "comment".
