/g/ Which distro do you use ?
Kill yourself
Windows 10
Windows/NT
pic related
>>52429929
>Literally "it just werks" the distro
>>52429929
Arch
Parabola
>>52430007
BASED
thought I was the only one.
Fedora
Arch
Install gentoo
>>52430328
>>52430007
I thought puppy Linux was really only good for a little bit of stuff on low power machines. Is it actually nice on a desktop?
>>52429929
So, you failed at suicide and started this thread again?
>You should feel bad!
>>52430328
How good it it? I'm currently running LXLE because it supports Broadcomm wifi things ootb
>>52430538
>>52430429
Its great if you run the Ubuntu-compatibles, always had issues with Slacko. Community packages for Xfce and Lxde are readily available, and I work in gcc and nodejs on my install. It's worth installing for sure, but be prepared to browse the murga forums if you want obscure software. The quickpet covers most people's needs though.
T. Someone who used puppy as his DD for like six months and has it installed as dualboot.
>>52430662
Thanks anon. I tried a live CD of it on my netbook like 5 years ago but couldn't remember a thing
>Desktop
Xubuntu
>Laptop
Mint (MATE)
>Server
CentOS
>>52430662
Thanks! I'll throw it onto one of my old shitboxes and give it a whirl.
Kill yourself.
Use something good, like FreeBSD, perhaps.
>>52429995
post screenfetch
New Age Linux
It's a rare and obscure distribution most of you have probably never heard about.
>>52430429
Fuck no.
You either
>Know a lot about manipulating gnu/linux to install non-pet packages
>Know just little enough to not have the need to install non-preinstalled resources
Is a distro for a very specific task to accomplish (that'll be to run in old or very low spec PCs)
Is a very niche thing, which if it doesn't suit those specific needs, can be a pain in the ass.
>>52430938
How ez is it to learn FreeBSD if I have decent GNU/Linux experience (LPIC1&2)?
>>52429929
Gentoo my anon-kun
>>52430963
>New Age Linux
Let me guess, it's the custom kernel name on your LFS system?
Debian.
I hate this board and I can't stop.
Is it really worth lurking just for that one piece of news or hype for technology? Fuck.
>>52430979
I don't know. I only know BSD, because I never found beginner documentation for GNU/Linux, I immediately switched to FreeBSD.
It was very easy as my first unixlike to learn.
>>52429929
Distro is for plebs.
I use LFS.
Fedora using i3, updating to Fedora 23 right now in fact.
>>52431037
>because I never found beginner documentation for GNU/Linux
>>52431117
>LFS
>bloat
>>52431145
I don't know how it happened, man.
See this though, this is good shit:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
>>52429929
Lubuntu
I have a slow machine
>>52431269
>Shinu Nimare
>Yiff Moon
Why
>>52431286
wut?
Lubuntu 15.10
>>52429995
>chinese botnet detected
>he didn't read the eula
>>52431269
Luub up
>>52431269
>using quick reply
>not having the native extension disabled
please kill yourself
turnkey
any one who use loonix as personal use is a weaboo
Default Ubuntu
Hardened Gentoo
>>52431335
>not using qr
are you new
Kali :^)
Right now I dual boot chakra and kubuntu. I try out other DE's from time to time but even though kde went gnome on us, it is still the best system.
>>52431348
Here's your (you)
>>52429995
>Normiecucks thinking Remix OS is a real distro
>>52431528
I hope you know how to handle Kali Linux. First point, are you logging as root on Kali?
>>52430945
Do it, >>52429995
>>52430735
What font is this?
Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa
ITT: retards can't into line spacing
>>52431792
M'lady
Debian testing
>>52431792
>adwaita
>>52431659
Not him, but good question! Working on it, anon.
>>52429929
Manjaro XFCE
>>52431834
>>52431659
Okay, my best guess is Garamond or some distressed variant of it. I've seen it in old '60s novels and stuff.
>>52431804
yes mi'lord
righto then
>>52431828
i just changed my fonts then, this was my first screenfetch anyway and i wasn't aware of gnome-tweak-tool
inb4 >gnome
>>52429929
FreeBSD welcomes you!
If you ever need help, hop onto #/g/technology on Rizon.
We're friendly! We love C and Unix. We want you!
>>52431881
>i don't know how to program
y-you still want me, f-senpai?
>>52431867
Looks pretty close. Thanks, anon!
>>52431890
You don't need to know C.
You need commodity hardware. What are you running, make and model, I'll let u know if ur chipsets are supported.
>>52429929
Desktop: FreeBSD
Laptop: Slackware (because Libreboot can't into *BSD)
Routers: OpenBSD
Access Point 1: OpenWRT
Access Point 2: FreeBSD
Server: FreeBSD
>>52431911
>Laptop: Slackware (because Libreboot can't into *BSD)
Explain.
>>52431911
>Access Point 2: FreeBSD
Ever try pfsense?
Ubuntu MATE
I originally switched from Windows to elementary OS on my Laptop because I liked the looks and fell in love with the functionality. Then I switched to something more customizable and have been loving it ever since.
>>52431901
Not him but now I'm curious. How about a Q45 system using onboard graphics and audio?
>>52431922
>Explain
https://libreboot.org/faq/#bsd
I've even tried FreeBSD on X200 with Libreboot, but it didn't boot.
>Ever try pfsense?
Pfsense doesn't support MIPS.
>>52431944
>Q45 system
Any info on your wifi card? Ethernet?
From what I understand q45 doesn't have internet does it? I need to know what kind of cards you use for that.
Your intel graphics is supported since at least 2010. I'd assume you're in good hands there.
A PCBSD ISO used as a LiveCD will quickly determine if your whole array of hardware works or not.
https://www.pcbsd.org/
PCBSD is indeed rock solid and stable. I don't know how, but it feels snappier than normal FreeBSD.
https://www.pcbsd.org/
Please backup any stuff first online or on a seperate drive. Make sure you have a normal windows disc or ubuntu/mint disc to move back to incase it doesn't work out.
>>52429929
Debian Stretch till NetBSD gains better support for my SBC
>>52431991
> (there is a free replacement on all current systems, but it lacks certain features that GNU/Linux doesn't require
>but it lacks certain features that GNU/Linux doesn't require
what does that mean?
>>52432014
Libreboot reimplemented proprietary Video BIOS from Intel just enough to run Linux, but *BSD use also other BIOS features that are not implemented.
>>52431994
It's a desktop, so I don't have a WLAN adapter installed. As for ethernet, lspci lists 82567LM-3. The linux driver I'm using is e1000e.
I used to run FreeBSD 7 on one of my servers, but for my desktop I'm kinda interested in NetBSD desu (hopefully that doesn't offend you :3 ). Know anything about it?
>>52431994
>>52432044
Of course, I meant "desu" not "desu", fucking wordfilter.
>>52432044
>It's a desktop, so I don't have a WLAN adapter installed. As for ethernet, lspci lists 82567LM-3. The linux driver I'm using is e1000e.
https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/blob/master/sys/dev/e1000/e1000_ich8lan.c#L47
You're covered!
>>52432044
>I used to run FreeBSD 7 on one of my servers, but for my desktop I'm kinda interested in NetBSD desu (hopefully that doesn't offend you :3 ). Know anything about it?
First, if FreeBSD 7 is your last release, allow me to extend to you a warm welcome back to FreeBSD anon. 11-CURRENT is superb.
NetBSD is fine as well. Try it all and see what you jive with.
I am not familiar with NetBSD, however. I hear their port system can be used cross platform. (https://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/platforms.html)
>>52432079
Say it in l33t speak
>>52432044
I'd suggest OpenBSD for a desktop BSD. I've found it to be great. A lot of the devs eat their own dogfood and use it as a desktop system, meanwhile I've heard FreeBSD devs have scoffed at people for trying, they view it as a server and VM system. Not sure how NetBSD is about things though, nothing wrong with trying both out
>>52432079
God damn it, it seems U+00AD doesn't work, I'm done trying. You know what I meant. T B H.
>>52432086
Awesome! Thank you for your help and admirable manners. I have a new file server to set up, so I'll give it a go on there. Yeah, the reason I mentioned NetBSD is because I've been wanting to give pkgsrc(7) a try.
>>52432087
OpenBSD is also fine to try.
>>52432087
>meanwhile I've heard FreeBSD devs have scoffed at people for trying, they view it as a server and VM system.
Meanwhile, FreeBSD is the only BSD with NVIDIA drivers. We bent over backwards getting DRI in core.
I don't know who gave you this impression anon, but if they were committers who only used FreeBSD for servers - more power to them, it doesn't mean we don't care about Desktops or Notebooks.
>>52432087
Are the FreeBSD devs the ones who exclusively use MacBooks? Or am I thinking of another dev team (all of them, no doubt)?
>>52432130
Lol.
There are tons of FreeBSD devs.
Off the top of my head, at least one of the FreeBSD core guys uses an X series Thinkpads.
I think Linus is the one who talked about the Macbook.
>>52432086
10.2 release is fine too bub, with TWM, Lumina, or not even having X11 installed at all.
>fucking nvidia
>>52432087
FreeBSD is what I use, but boy, the admins are real poo in the loo.
Heard about Randi's code of conduct?
>>52432145
nvidia's a bit "screwed" up
>see what I did there ;)))))))
>>52432130
I use FreeBSD, and yes, they are the ones who let themselves be buttpenetrated by Apple and other evil capitalists.
I'd switch to OpenBSD ASAP if I didn't have a shitty Nvidia card.
I don't want to use FreeBSD. I want to use OpenBSD.
I just can't.
>>52432125
>Meanwhile, FreeBSD is the only BSD with NVIDIA drivers
This is true. It's too bad Nvidia's not nicer about releasing documentation. I personally don't mind no Nvidia support (all of my laptops have Intel graphics except for one with a GeForce FX Go5200, but the software rasterizer works fine for my uses, and all of my desktops have AMD cards) but I can see how it's an issue for others.
>>52432130
>Are the FreeBSD devs the ones who exclusively use MacBooks?
I've heard on /g/ that a lot of them dd OS X and that they use and develop FreeBSD in a VM and never really touch bare metal with it themselves, but remember this is coming from /g/
>>52432152
I've been debating switching my server to FreeBSD as OpenBSD won't really cut it at the moment but the shit going on with the devs is really making me want to stay away. I'm probably going to see how NetBSD goes.
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>>52432184
I'm inspired by the fact that my Apple router + wireless AP runs the NetBSD kernel.
>>52429929
Slackware
>>52432251
I'm surprised Apple's NIH syndrome didn't cause them to do something like using a modified Darwin
>>52432275
Same; they really love pulling crap like that. Maybe they figured Darwin's network stack wasn't up to snuff at the time? Maybe it had something to do with pf? Just a guess.
>>52432184
>This is true. It's too bad Nvidia's not nicer about releasing documentation.
What's so hard about using nvidia-xconfig?
What do you need help with? You should install the driver and you're good to go.
>>52432311
0/8 bait
You certainly know we mean the documentation to make a good open source driver.
>>52430429
No, they're being special snowflakes.
As you said it's excellent on low powered/broken hard-drive machines and thats about it.
It's really good at that tho.
>>52429929
Debian, but GNU/Cux can suck a dick and I spend most of my time on OpenBSD and Solaris because I have lots of it :^)
>>52431901
>>52431792
I also have a z67-ud3p PC with a gtx560ti, creative x-fi fatal1ty sound card (original - it was a gift)
>>52432384
also a 2500k
>>52432306
Regardless it's interesting. Apple was originally porting NetBSD code into Darwin for OS X, I wonder if they fell back on one of their initial reasons to choose NetBSD that happens to still stand
>>52432369
Awesome, a solarisfag. What do you do with it?
Fedora
>there are people who don't use a redhat OS
kill yourselves ;)
>>52432384
>>52432404
Pop in a PC-BSD DVD and let's see where it takes you.
If you like, install it (backup data first).
If you are ok with CLI and a little more configuration, grab FreeBSD.
>>52432442
might check it out thanks m80
>>52429929
Desktop: Gentoo
Laptop: Ubuntu, CentOS
VPS: Debian
Considering switching to either ubuntu or centos on my desktop.
>>52429995
But why? Can't you just emulate your shitty android apps?
>>52431380
I love it when you touch my hardened gentoo bby ;3
>>52429929
osx and Arch
>>52429929
Antergos
>>52431325
EULA is only a problem if he lives in a fucktard country like murica.
If he is in europe, EU laws apply and a EULA cannot change that.
Debian
>>52429929
Currently using Mint.
>>52429929
Mac OS™ 10.11™ el capitan™™
>>52429929
> Desktop
Arch
>Server
Debian Stable
I guess I am going to change to Fedora on my desktop. I don't fully trust Arch package maintainers.
>>52429929
desu - desu
baka - baka
senpai - senpai
cuck - kek
I currently use Windows 10, I think it's a great OS.
I'm gonna start using Fedora very soon. MacPup is also something I wanna try.
Arch on 5 machines.
Ubuntu server on the other.
>>52429929
gentoo, arch, and debian
>>52429929
Windows 10 because I'm not autistic.
Antergos because I don't feel like setting up Arch.
Serbian stable on my desktop, testing on the laptop.
The only true option.
Crunch bang
CRUX
>>52435638
>serbian
>stable
>>52432200
>Not Alpine MUA.
0/10
>>52434248
"Cuck" isn't filtered anymore. Apparently Hiroshima came to the realization that it's all cucks here after all.
>>52435811
Why would one throw a slice of ham onto a cat which hid in a narrow space?
>>52429929
>>52429929
Ubuntu, because it just werks.
>>52436301
>Not recognizing the Gentoo logo.
Get out.
>>52435579
>I'm not autistic.
Compared to Windows 10, maybe.
>>52435771
THIS! EVERYONE ELSE IS A WEAK FAGGOT!
>>52429929
OS X
What distro would you ni/g/gas recommend for an old Core 2 Duo laptop with 2GB RAM?
I tried Ubuntu and Linux Mint, and while they do run, they are only slightly faster than Win7.
Fedora
Desktop: Linux Mint (Cinnamon)
Laptop: Linux Mint (Xfce)
Trisquel
OS X El Capitan 10.11.2
>>52429929
I have my own self-hosted kernel source compiler.
>>52431110
>>52431269
>>52431503
>>52431697
>>52431711
>>52431792
>>52436456
What command is this?
>>52436798
screenfetch
NT/Windows 7
Unix System V Release 4
>>52430288
>>52430340
>>52433516
>>52434238
>>52434499
>>52435560
Arch
inb4 more le epic XD arch memes
>>52436907
:^)
using fedora on my thinkpad x200 right now.
it's really good, i like it. usually use debian.
I'm using Chapeau, fedora based, great on my touchscreen lenovo
>>52429929
Ubuntu, I used Arch when I had the time to maintain it, but now I had work to do.
>>52429929
xubuntu
Windows™ 10
Using Windows 10 on desktop and fedora on server, laughing at silly archfags
>>52437919
Why not CentOS at server? In my opinion, fedora is too bleeding edge for server.
>>52431269
Tinycore that motherfucker. Your speed will increase ten fold
>>52438007
because bleeding edge is my preference
and fedora is much more comfortable for me, i've tried lots of other rpm distros
>>52431015
Are you fucking stupid? This is not a serious Linux board, it's 4chan you grabasstic piece of amphibian shit.
>>52431015
>using outdated bloated shit distros
fuck off memelord
Debian all around.
Mint
>not using arch or gentoo
What happend to you /g/?
USE CASES OF DISTROS:
Too much time on their hands: Gentoo
Boring office stuff like spread sheets: Red Hat, CentOS
Gaming and noobs general: Ubuntu
Entry-level coding: Debian
Reale serious coding, top-end server stuff and hacking: Arch
>>52438350
It has grown
>>52438350
adequacy overflow???
>>52438374
>Arch not grouped with Gentoo
Nice meme
>>52438389
hey, no, arch users are way less adequate than gentoo users, don't you know?
>>52436854
Underrated post
>>52438374
>arch
>server
2/16 bait
>>52438428
it's bleeding edge, means faster, means faster servers
more faster
>>52438412
I guess, I use Gentoo and it's literally Arch with more options and a harder install
>>52438428
Where's the problem?
>muh epic memes
Now that I have some experience with linux (mint) what should I install
>Manjaro
>openSUSE
also open to WM recommendations? thx fqm
>>52438428
that's not a bait
arch users can be even more dumb, while being ducklings
>Linux
mv /home/rajeesh/poo /dev/loo
elementaryOS but really want to try that
>>52429995
>>52438461
from these two, i'd suggest suse over manjaro
but you should consider looking at something else
but don't even try to think of something that is debian or based on debian
>>52438532
nooo, i dont want debian, i want a rolling release distro. what would you suggest? also is there something wrong with suse?
>>52438461
Fedora
Debian Testing
>>52438551
there's a suse tumbleweeb and fedora rawhide
![Fedora[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4o3VzEV.jpg "Fedora[1].jpg")
>>52438639
never looked into fedora, because >pic related
i guess i can check it out
Is there any other distro that is not Debian based that uses apt?
>>52438695
it's distro that goes best for desktop (not os, use windows, dummy)
redhat did really good polishment here
>>52438734
why the hell?!
apt is considered a problem of debian by huge amount of people
it's slow, buggy, silly etc etc
>>52438762
by the way, debian is a problem too
>>52438739
>use windows
did you just suggest me to use windows? no offence here, but I am forced to use winblows for several weeks (have to study for exam, need VS...) and it's total and complete shit, jesus, i'd rather swim in cat piss than use windows for my daily desktop os
>>52438785
It isn't slow for me and I haven't encountered bugs yet.
How is it silly? What is a better package manager in your opinion?
>>52438785
I disagree with this statement. Out of all distros I have used it is the best for me.
Recently switched from Gentoo to Debian Sid with encrypted hard drive.
So comfy.
>>52438840
it is silly because of stupid solutions for recovering when something went wrong, managing repositories
i'd say portage and dnf are best
>>52436798
At least 3 of them had screenfetch written in their terminal. Step up anon.
>>52438734
Mandrake, but it's rip.
>>52438932
Dont talk shit to a mint/buntu/debian user.
>>52438912
The recovering of errors is pretty dumb with apt. I have had issues with this in the past but the solution is to wait till you can upgrade without breaking stuff.
I will look into portage && dnf now thanks anon
Linux Mint at home and Ubuntu on my work computer.
I used to use Xubuntu but I am currently switching to Fedora since my big breasted wife kept making fun of me saying it was a pleb distro. I hit her, every day this week.
Arch + win10 for games
pretty happy wit it
before that opensuse
before that mint
>>52429984
Kek
>>52438993
>falling for the arch meme
enjoy your broken shit every time you update xD
>>52431528
Why?
>>52438970
i;d also note you can install portage anywhere
>>52439028
I update almost daily
and I am on arch for over a year
>>52439038
\sarcasm{because pendrive os is best for desktop}
Minimal Debian install with i3 as a window manager. Works great, stability was 10/10.
That laptop died though, so until I fix its mobo issues I'm installing Trisquel on my other ThinkPad.
>>52438891
Unstable, really? What were you thinking, anon?
>>52438810
yes, i did. microsoft windows is best solution for getting a life
>>52439134
Why not unstable? If you don't update when the repo isn't hectic it is stable enough for desktop use.
>>52439134
I've been on Debian Sid for a few months and I've only run into extremely minor issues so far. Something like two or three programs needed me to install an older version of a library, that was it.
>>52439156
>using distro not where it should be used
>>52439156
>>52439177
>Puppeteering.
Worst advice ever.
Manjaro on my laptop
Windows 7 on my desktop
Arch on my shit tier laptop and Pi
>>52438374
>top-end server stuff
>Arch
dude, arch packages regress all the time. I use arch on my laptop and I love it, but I'm still seriously considering replacing it on my server with debian even though I fucking hate the debian community.
>>52439516
Try CentOS for servers. Or consider buying RHEL.
>>52439189
Debian can be used anywhere, for anything. As with most distros some do it better than others but it is my preference.
>>52439516
how come arch community is better than debian's?
Gentoo
>>52439636
no social contract bullshit, for starters
it's downhill from there.
>>52439614
>CentOS
a little long in the tooth, maybe?
>>52439745
>it's downhill from there.
wow what a great argument point my friend you really got me with that one.
How about you formulate some actual points as to why Arch's community is better than Debian's, rather than "no bullshit I probably know nothing about and haven't done any research on, also other stuff I'm not going to mention because I'm making it up"
>>52439801
debian community is stuffy, autistic and full of moralfags and psychos, such as people who get shot by cops and cause endless systemd drama
arch community is focused on making shit work and has produced the most comprehensive documentation in the linux community
>>52429929
Kubuntu on a laptop.
I like KDE, Akonadi and stuff, but it's full of bugs and not terribly efficient. Ubuntu is Ubuntu. Not recommending it to anyone.
But i'm also the kind of guy that plays on steam on linux on a dual-boot laptop because too lazy to restart, and I'm still using Opera 12.17 (fantastic piece of software imho).
>>52439745
> a little long in the tooth
Not at all
>>52430007 >>52430288 >>52430499 >>52430987 >>52431110 >>52431269 >>52431862 >>52431881 >>52431911 >>52432013 >>52432273 >>52432369 >>52433124 >>52433516 >>52433649 >>52434147 >>52434182 >>52434238 >>52434248 >>52435560 >>52435579 >>52436456 >>52436502 >>52436539 >>52436788 >>52437522 >>52437534 >>52439866
/g/ Which distro do you use ?
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>>52439863
>the most comprehensive documentation in the linux community
https://www.debian.org/doc/
https://wiki.debian.org
https://debian-handbook.info/
>>52439948
>amazon
wow, way to make my point for me
>>52439866
Try mint kde, its just better
>>52439978
>disregarding
https://www.debian.org/doc/
https://wiki.debian.org
https://debian-handbook.info/
>>52439997
not as good as arch wiki, by a longshot.
>>52439978
>number of results in an online bookstore
>no relevance to something's abundance of documentation
>>52440035
the fact that you don't understand why this is stupid illustrates my point
just to repeat myself
>>52439894
For you I recommend Mint
>>52439981
Don't doubt it, I'm just too lazy for the moment.
But the next thing I'll try will probably be OpenSUSE.
Arch
Why don't people accept CentOS as their lord and savior? It's pretty stable, has community (admit it you have at least searched your problem and found the solution online about 100 times) and acceptable resource requirements. You can just go absolute minimum if you want the Arch linux experience without the added instability.
>>52440350
no rpmfusion for RHEL7
>>52438374
>people still reply to this b8
>>52438551
Debian testing and unstable are rolling
Mint, its comfy*
*but not free as in freedom
>>52439077
>People still believe that using arch is hard
It's not hard, it's just shit.
>>52439948
And yet I have never found a solution to any GNU/Linux related problem that's not from the last century on the Debian wiki. The only wikis with actual information, configuration tricks and troubleshooting tips are the Arch wiki and Gentoo wiki. Even the Ubuntu wiki sometimes.
You may dislike Arch, but the wiki is great.
>>52440021
For everything else there is manpages. And these beat the arch wiki no matter how much you argue.
>>52440652
>but not free as in freedom
Neither is the hardware that you use
Finally, finally unified my Linux use to a single(-ish) distro: Ubuntu LTS. Kinda comfy to finally not be jumping between Debian stable, Debian sid, Crunchbang and Mint depending on the computer I'm connected to. Never mind that one server I had that was running CentOS.
All of my laptops/desktops are Mint 17 (Cinnamon), which is based on 14.04, plus a few updated packages and a newer kernel. Both my personal servers and those I interface with at work are all Ubuntu 14.04 LTS as well.
I used to be on the Canonical hate train. Main thing that changed was I wanted to get stuff done and not fuck with the minutia.
>>52439636
It's not
>>52429929
I'm running Sid but thinking of downgrading to testing.
There are more updates of less value with a greater chance of breaking than there used to be.
>>52431110
> unironically using manjaro
ELL OH ELL
>>52439978
> this aired 2 years ago
Where has time gone my friends?
>>52441184
When I started nobody used stable except for servers. It was just too far out of date, while the software got noticeably better at a noticeable rate. Testing was a good compromise except for the freeze, where you got locked out of improvements and new packages for months.
So Sid. It never really caused problems until the last year or two.
>>52441315
To use Sid without issues I have found that avoiding updates when Debian releases a new stable version and allows experimental packages into Sid. Even then if you check that the update doesn't remove critical packages then you can update if you feel lucky.
I have been using unstable for my desktop and I haven't had any headaches with it so far.
Windows 7.
>>52441315
You're not using Debian for the latest packages, you must know this by now. Use it for stability only, i.e. Debian Stable. If you miss more up to date packages, either use backports http://backports.debian.org/ or a different OS entirely.
>>52441482
>Use it for stability only,
How so?
Debian unstable has been working great on my 2 desktops for several years
