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Greetings.
Skylake CPU are not the sole option for Excellent-Enthusiast. I held on to Haswell for as long as possible, since it is the better value CPU, but 1150 mobos at that price range are now all out of stock, or the price went up from ~$150-$170 to $300+.
Removed the following GPUs:
-R7 260X
-R9 270X
-R9 280X
They are no longer available in most places.
SSD options for 240GB starting at "Very Good", instead of "Superb" in before.
Questions:
-The Haswell i3 still has mobos available for it. Keep as long as possible, or switch to Skylake i3? Switching may mean having RAM swap DDR3->DDR4->DDR3 in the middle of the guide.
-Add M.2 PCIe SSD options to the Extremist/Monstrous tiers?
Your comments, suggestions, and criticisms would be appreciated.
>>52428485
>but 1150 mobos at that price range are now all out of stock, or the price went up from ~$150-$170 to $300+.
Why does this happen? Lower supply due to being discontinued but high demand?
>>52428519
In short, yes.
>>52428519
Skylake has been out for ~5 months now. So I am guessing all the mobos were EOLed and only old stock is left. There may be a mismatch in mobo-manufacturer schedules and Intels, as Haswell CPUs are still available for sale everywhere, and at normal prices.
>muslim shill asking for free support so he can mooch off ad revenue
now that youre famous you want our help uh
i was there from day one man
>>52428591
>famous
Since when?
>>52428485
What is the price of the skylake i3?
>>52428657
$130, $10 more than the Haswell.
>>52428692
Is there a way to determine if it's safe to unlock the flawed cores of the i3 to make it into say an i5?
>>52428692
And the $5 extra of DDR4 instead DDR3, also i doubt 1151 motherboards are cheaper than the 1150 in that tier so for now it would be a good idea to keep the Haswell i3.
>>52428706
The is Intel, not AMD. As far back as I can recall, you can never "unlock" any Intel CPU that Intel does not want you to.
>>52428723
I lean that way myself. Will check 1151 mobos in preparation for a future update though.
>>52428485
>no AMD past superb
This is just another shitty intel shill trying to get idiots to buy their chips.
I hope you enjoyed your 50 rupes deposited, faggot.
>>52428485
Hey falcon, have you thought of putting in an itx/console competitor build? Especially low power, ~430w psu builds.
>>52428771
Zen and Zen+ aren't out yet, faggot. Prepare for the coming domination of cheap AMD CPUs the likes you haven't seen since the Athlon days.
>>52428706
They don't do that, the i3s never had any extra cores to begin with, i5/i7s that didn't work on all cores just get trashed.
>>52428789
There have been tonnes of suggestions: mATX/mITX builds, rendering builds, streaming builds, home/office builds. I can get into those, but not too soon.
Anyhow, I mention that the Fair/Good tiers match the current gen consoles.
>>52428812
>Prepare for the coming domination of cheap AMD CPUs the likes you haven't seen since the Athlon days.
>/g/ every AMD release since Athlon
I won't hold my breath. My Athlon XP died of old many moons ago. :(
>>52428872
Zen was designed by the certified shit wrecker, have some faith
apple's best days were when he was also working for their company
>>52428872
Zen needs to be good. We all suffer if Zen fails, and that includes the Intel fanboys. Look at Skylake prices.
falcon, in mexico guides could you not add cases from amazon that are imported? shipping costs are too expensive.
ie:Cosair 200R
Productos
$1,087.79
Gastos de envío estimados
$1,132.64
Impuestos de importación
$179.49
Importe total estimado
$2,399.92
>$1,200 pesos in shipping
>>52428948
holy shit
>>52428948
Another example.Enthoo Pro
Productos
$1,994.43
Gastos de envío estimados
$1,729.15
Impuestos de importación
$329.08
Importe total estimado
$4,052.66
>$1,730 pesos in shipping
>>52428948
>>52428990
Ouch. Will get this fixed over the weekend. Thank you for pointing it out.
>>52429010
Also another thing about the mexico list, you guys should take in consideration the extras a website adds for shipping in comparison of amazon free shipping final prize.
I.e. some sites ask for $40~100 for "Package Security" and $100~250 for shipping when amazon mexico is free for some stuff and ends being cheaper than the alternative website, even when the price of the product is cheaper.
>>52429062
Example.
HAF-X in Amazon mexico is $3299+$99 leaving it on $3,398.
HAF-X in the site in the list(DineroMX) is $3,422+$240+$80 for package insurance leaving it in $3,742.
Thats is a $345 difference.
>>52429062
>>52429131
Alright. I have copied all your comments, and will send them to the guy who is updating Mexico.
You're a godsend, Falcon.
>>52429062
>Prize
Price*
>>52429268
Thanks i will notify you if i find something else.
>>52429322
Thanks to community feedback.
>>52429352
Thanks!
Where the hell can I find cheap graphic cards in Yurop? A GTX 750ti here costs on average 180€
>>52429417
Get a zotac 750Ti.
Fuck off to Reddit cocksucking faggot
>>52428912
Prices I'm looking at the improvements like what the fuck
>>52429680
Yeah, ~5% improvement, and you can enjoy paying $40-$100 for it. If AMD fails, Intel can play the fool.
Post pigs he'll stop posting
One more issue:
5820K.
This CPU only supports 28 PCIe lanes, so you need to pick a specific mobo (with enough space between specific PCIe slots) if you want to go dual GPU.
Gigabyte X99-SLI and MSI X99S SLI Plus work fine. ASUS X99-A does not. Do I remove the Asus? Or add a warning?
>>52429894
I don't see the 5820k on the new list.
I would ditch the Asus board though. The MSI and Gigabyte options are more than fine.
>>52428485
Thanks for the work on the site. It really helps finding nice components.
Faggot.
>>52428485
>Add M.2 PCIe SSD options to the Extremist/Monstrous tiers?
are these drives really that expensive? A 60-120gb boot drive would be an excellent option for M.2 at lower tiers
>>52429936
I removed it until I can make sure that the motherboard can support dual cards AND have at least one free slot between cards.
>>52429972
Most welcome. It is a community effort.
>>52429978
If you want a speed increase, you get an M.2 PCIe SSD, and those ARE pricey.
Suggestions, comments, and criticisms are welcome.
>>52431470
Kinda hard to get recommendations when its 1:30AM.
>>52431479
Aye...
But then again, most kids are asleep now, so the best advice can be had at this time.
>>52429894
>ASUS X99-A does not
how so? i'm running dual GPUs on a X99-A/USB 3.1.
>>52431578
What CPU? Which slots are you using?
I find it difficult to recommend skylake. At least as an upgrade.
Do those greedy jews even include stock coolers any more?
Add CS:GO to game builds
>>52431630
>The PCIe x16_2, PCIe x1_1 and USB3_E56 connectors share the same bandwidth. By default, the PCIe x16_2 slot and PCIe x1_1 slot will automatically run at x1 mode with USB3_E56 enabled for best resource optimization.
Call me blind, but I cannot actually find the USB3_E56 connector on the mobo, just USB3_E12 and USB3_E34. Can anyone confirm?
>>52431630
5820K
using the first and third from the top (not counting the x1s obviously).
>>52431724
The 6600K does not come with a stock cooler. Not sure about the rest.
>>52431780
Unless I am reading this wrong, that means that your second GPU is running at x4, no?
>>52431803
manual says x8, which should be fine. with 3 GPUs, the third one would be at x4.
>>52431780
>>52431839
>using the first and third from the top (not counting the x1s obviously)
>third one would be at x4
So you are running at x4, or are you using the second slot, not the third?
>>52431853
the slots are called (from the top) PCIEX16_1, _2, _3, _4
here's what the manual says about SLI
Why is the cpu cooler part of the guide exclusively air coolers? Wouldn't an AiO be better in the high(ish) end?
>>52431895
>PCIe 3.0/2.0
>1, 3, 4
Argh! This does not help! Why is this stuff not written in a clearer manner?
Thanks for the picture though, anon. Maybe I need to call Asus and get clarification.
I need to afk for a few hours. Will check this thread for more suggestions later.
Issues still unresolved:
-Adding M.2 SSDs to high end
-Bringing back the 5820K (with appropriate mobos)
Late bump.
If anyone can shed some info on this: >>52431853
>>52431895
...it would be great.
>>52433361
Fuck off Falcon
>X4 860K + ASRock FM2A68M-DG3+ = $116
>G3240 + ASRock H97M Anniversary = $130
>The 860K is faster
There is no sane reason for anyone to get a G3240 in 2016.
Is there a Git repository with changes for the website
>>52433593
No, just threads like these.
>>52433533
Food for thought. Ruminating...
>>52433648
The G3258 blasts the 860K because of OC but when you take the ability to OC out of the G3240 the equation changes.
The bigger reason is actually the recent trend of games to just fail to run on dual core processors (GTA V and fallout 4 hate dual cores, and some ass creed games that you shouldn't be playing anyway)
>>52433361
here's speccy btw
pretty sure it works just like the manual states.
Good luck doing any sort of live video filtering with a dual core machine.
> Switching may mean having RAM swap DDR3->DDR4->DDR3 in the middle of the guide.
Perhaps you're seeing some discrepency because of intel's price fixing. What a surprise.
>>52433687
Can you let me know what slots it is actually plugged into? I can see that the second card is indeed running at x8.
>>52428968
what country is this
>>52434613
first and third, just checked again.
>>52428485
I got a 512 GB Samsung 950 Pro. You should add it to the guide. The price difference to high end Sata3 SSDs is less than 50%.
Hello,
Are there plans to have an 'office PC' section?
Every build you have includes a dedicated GPU, but for example for my father's PC, he doesn't need it, iGPU is enough.
>>52429894
Asus X99-Deluxe works too. I get x16 on the first slot, and x8 on the third and fifth with my 5820K. I'm surprised the X99-A isn't supposed to work. How did they link the slots to the CPU?
>>52435070
Here's an office PC guide:
1. Get whatever
You're done!
>>52435084
I have no idea. Newegg says that the third PCIe slot runs at x4, but this anon >>52434856 says otherwise.
>>52435070
Guide is still gaming oriented for now. Until I can update the site with a proper backend, I cannot add new non-gaming tables.
>>52431803
It's running at x8.
If he puts it in the fourth fullsize slot, it would be running x4.
>>52435120
My X99-Deluxe got a PCIe lanes switch on the board that allows me to change from x16/x8 with two GPUs to x8/x8/x8 with three GPUs and a 5820K. If it does not have that switch, it's impossible that the third slot runs in x8, if the first and second run in x16/x8 respectively, but x4 is still possible, if he has no M.2 drive installed that blocks the lanes.
>>52435070
Just pick whatever tier you need, and just skip the dGPU or get one a few tiers lower?
>>52435163
Both Newegg and Asus say:
x16, x16/x8, x16/x8/x4
How can a reasonable person read this as anything other than: "The third slot operates at x4"?
But I believe you both are correct. I just need it to be verified by Asus.
>Removed the following GPUs:
>-R9 280X
Ah man. It somehow feels like I bought old shit.
>>52435243
Cannot find it for a good price any more, and the 380X is a good replacement for the same old price.
>>52435243
Not like it's any different from the 380x...
>>52435213
Yes, that's right. The third slot on the X99-A operates at x4.
>>52435243
>>52435273
280X isn't being produced any more, and stocks are low. Doesn't make it bad card, but it lacks some of the features of the 380X.
380X is a whole new chip, with quite a few new features, and much lower power consumption that the 280X for the same performance. Upping the power target alone is enough to perform as well as an overclocked 280X.
>>52435259
Yeah.
Got it about a month and a half ago for 150€. I guess I was lucky enough.
>>52435278
Anon highlighted the third slot here: >>52434856
And says it operates at x8: >>52433687
>>52435213
>x16, x16/x8, x16/x8/x4
>The third slot operates at x4
that's one interpretation. the other is:
"with one card, it runs at x16"
"with two cards, one runs at x16 and the other runs at x8"
"with three cards, one runs at x16, one runs at x8 and one runs at x4"
>>52435332
See the manual here: >>52431895
It is not clear what they mean.
>>52435317
Oh, yeah, right.
So, with a 5820K and a X99-A:
The first slot runs x16
The second slot runs in PCIe 2.0 mode
The third slot runs x8
The fourth slot runs x4
Hope that clears that up.
>>52428485
Thanks for letting me know lga1150 motherboards have went to shit. Ordered one just now before completely out of stock
>>52435378
I know right
I built two lga 1150 builds on Christmas and neither the cpu or motherboards were overpriced so this guy is just talking out of his ass
>>52435368
You are most likely correct. I just need that officially clarified by Asus.
>>52435401
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007627%20600438202%20600491547%204814
ctrl+f "out of stock"
>>52435401
Well the price may normalize and stock may bounce back 8 months or a year from now but I was planning my build for March. I have most of the other components
