>$75,000 ugly meme fans
>>52426860
fuck off
>>52426872
>he thinks he's cool defending meme fans on a cantonese charcoal drawing child pornography board
>>52426860
Noctua fans are a placebo affect like most air cooling methods. They take right after AMD but instead rely on JUST ADD MORE HEATPIPES charts instead.
The year is 2016 and by now liquid cooling is so mainstream there's no reason to have one unless you're a dirtpoor nigger. Just recently I upgrade to the Hygro Series™ H5 SF Low-Profile Liquid CPU Cooler and needless to say it's flawless. You really can't go wrong with its size and it cools better than even the dual rads thanks to Corsair innovated new liquid cooling system. Other brands are so bad that they can't even remain stable while in use. Talk about pathetic.
There's no reason to not have one already.
>>52426860
If by meme you silent, efficient and very decently priced then yes.
Seriously though, why do people buy these fans? They're fucking garbage and overpriced as hell.
>b-but they're quiet
Cougar fans are quieter at the same RPM and push more air harder and you can get a 4 pack for like $25.
>b-but muh static pressure, I don't care about noise
There's dozens of fans with better SP that aren't much louder.
>muh longevity
Back to Cougar fans again.
Really, what niche are these supposed to fill?
>>52427041
>overpriced
They compete (and in most cases are even more efficent) with higher priced CLC's so what the fuck are you talking about you mongloid.
>>52427070
>CLC
I'm talking specifically fans.
>>52427004
$0.50 has been deposited.
>>52426860
>ugly
Don't tell me you're one of those dorks with windowed cases?
>>52427111
It's rupes, get it right.
>>52427082
Sorry m8. I'm out of my element. Thought we were talking about CPU coolers.
>>52427004
This is a 100% authentic non-corsair employee made post. We need more of these unbiased, genuine reviews of products on 4chan.
>tfw i have that fan
was dirt cheap and literally silent. unless you have micro case there are much worse coolers to meme up
Just buy AIO liquid coolers if you’re lazy.
>>52427149
No, their coolers are good, the benchmarks prove that much. But on their own, the fans are ass and there are better options all around.
>>52427239
>buy this
>throw fans
>buy different fans
ok fine, i guess.
>>52426920
Dude, don't even reply to the poster who says that, he always says that on any thread that disagrees with his opinion, and then goes and finds another one to say it in, yes, he's that assblasted.
>>52427305
If you think their fans are bad you are beyond delusional. No one in their right minds changes the fans after they buy a noctua coolers for anything else than aestethics.
>>52427347
Nah, I just know how to read specs unlike you apparently.
>>52427361
So I'll take it you bought a noctua and changed the fans? What temp changes did you get?
The coolers are good for what they are. I prefer closed loop water cooling these days. Surpasses the best air cooled coolers and isn’t huge and heavy.
>>52427041
>Cougar fans are quieter at the same RPM and push more air harder and you can get a 4 pack for like $25.
False
>There's dozens of fans with better SP that aren't much louder.
Like you said louder.
>Back to Cougar fans again.
>Really, what niche are these supposed to fill?
Noctua have a 6 year + warranty.
Noctua fans are just the best fans for the application.
-They’re well made.
-Have a nice screwless design for install. Also offers anti vibration.
-Best warranty
-The sound to performance ratio is unmatched
If you want the quietest set up possible while still pushing a large amount of air they can’t be beat.
At the end of the day they’re not something for everyone. Cheap fans get the job done like they have for decades. Often you can just lower the RPM on these fans too and still be in the desired temp range while being silent.
>>52427424
>False
Nah, it's true. Sorry you can't accept facts because someone badmouthed your favorite brand.
>>52427402
You're not going to see a temp change on something like that, the big difference is in volume or when using WC radiators.
>>52427548
>You're not going to see a temp change on something like tha
I know. That's why I asked him. To point out that he's fucking retarded.
>>52427548
>Nah, it's true. Sorry you can't accept facts because someone badmouthed your favorite brand.
Even the claimed specs aren't as good as Noctua let alone real world tests.
>>52427562
Do you not realize who you're replying to? I never said your temps would change because fans don't matter much on an air cooler as long as they're "good enough". But according to the specs from both manufacturers, Cougar 120's will move more air at a higher static pressure with less noise than a Noctua 120 at the same RPMs.
>>52427591
I replied to the guy that implied you have to change the fans after you buy a noctua coolers and I just said he's a n idiot. Then you said that "you unlike me actually read specs" which would imply you do have to do change them. So unless you were the same guy or you didn't imply you have to change them what the fuck are you doing replying to that post.
>>52427581
>Even the claimed specs aren't as good as Noctua let alone real world tests.
Well apparently they revised their fans, their static pressure didn't used to be that high at 1200 RPM, it was like 1.6.
>>52427642
I'm sorry, I've been up for like 40 hours and barely lucid.
not OP but i bought the 120MM pwm orange cougars for $15 a pop(7 of them) and 1 140MM for the back. I this pc IS DEAD FUCKIN QUIET at 40C and below(water cooling). It still just whispers beyond that...
I'm happy with them.
>>52427646
That's because Noctua doesn't just use the same old product and call it a day. They regally update their stuff to be more efficient. Or recently to add more color options.
They are the best fans that are commercially produced for PCs.
>>52427682
This was the fan I had originally looked at a year or two ago and my point still stands for this one.
http://noctua.at/en/products/fan/nf-s12a-pwm.html
But obviously they've got new models out.
They're still way too expensive for what they are in my opinion so I've never kept up with them. My apologies.
>>52427665
It's alright my man. The point is their coolers are good value (not so sure about their fans but I suspect they're above average too) even though I have to admit they look like shit.
>>52427698
Yeah I won't disagree their coolers are good. Again pricey as fuck, but if you don't want to take the risks of watercooling they're the next best thing.
>>52427693
What Cougar fan are you comparing it too?
The only PWM fan I see on their site that's 120mm is 300rpm faster and louder.
The Noctua NF-F12 PWM which is a 1500 rpm beats that Cougar fan in every area.
>>52427737
...
Unless you are building custom loops (IE Not buying premade CLC's) they're even better in performance in the same price range.
Some people just get the idea that just because it's "water cooling" it's just better, that's not the case. I suggest you look at some benchmarks.
>>52427757
Fucking hell, I'm not sure if I'm hallucinating or if I'm just getting different numbers depending on the page. Hold on a minute.
>>52427774
I meant a custom loop.
muh loud. Everyone hear games with headphones on.
>>52427757
>>52427825
>>52427797
Custom loops are far more expensive than the price of getting a noctua and unless you're trying to do some exterme overclocking (which kinda beats the point for OC-ing, you do it to get better value/$) or you're doing it just for fun they're not worth it.
>>52427851
Like I said, next best thing. I didn't say they were comparable.
So has all in one water cooling products started mattering?
Last time I cared they cost too much, performed worse for the price significantly and we're not particularly quite.
I bought a NH D-14 fucking years ago when they where still new
>>52427878
They're improved but still worse value. If you're willing to shell more you can get slightly better cooling than the D-14 but I wouldn't do it myself to be honest.
>>52427825
>>52427845
Not a PWM fan. Noctua push more air..
If you actually read the specification those numbers are at 1500 rpm. Clever trick for 3rd rate fan companies.
>>52427931
>If you actually read the specification those numbers are at 1500 rpm
No they're not, that's the older model. The 1500 RPM cougar came out just last year or so.
>Not a PWM fan. Noctua push more air
As I've said "at the same RPM" that being 1200 RPM.
>>52427931
The cougar one he posted beats the noctua's he posted across the board, the fuck are you on about?
>>52427984
Wait my mistake. Cougar puts charts of their 140mm fan on their 120mm specs… Just wow.
Anyway. It's not a pwm fan so I already don't care. But Noctua wins in the flow and noice areas. Not very good for static pressure.
Are people still using 120mm fans for radiators? Really that's what this comes down too because for actual airflow the Noctuas are better.
>>52427912
Thanks for the info.
Interesting how little has changed in coolers in like 5 years.
>>52428046
>Cougar puts charts of their 140mm fan on their 120mm specs
No they don't, you're just blind.
>It's not a pwm fan so I already don't care
Why does that matter in the slightest? Voltage control works great on them.
>Are people still using 120mm fans for radiators? Really that's what this comes down too because for actual airflow the Noctuas are better.
You need static pressure for radiators, not shit tons of airflow. All the airflow in the world doesn't mean shit if there's no pressure behind it.
>>52428070
>No they don't, you're just blind.
Sure looks like it too me...
>Why does that matter in the slightest? Voltage control works great on them.
It's 2016.
>You need static pressure for radiators, not shit tons of airflow. All the airflow in the world doesn't mean shit if there's no pressure behind it.
My point is it's an outdated application.
>>52428114
>>No they don't, you're just blind.
>Sure looks like it too me...
They're sorted by model. Each model has a 140 and 120 version. You're blind.
>>Why does that matter in the slightest? Voltage control works great on them.
>It's 2016.
So you enjoy paying an extra 20% for unneeded features?
>>You need static pressure for radiators, not shit tons of airflow. All the airflow in the world doesn't mean shit if there's no pressure behind it.
>My point is it's an outdated application.
What is outdated? Radiators require good static pressure. 120mm fans provide much better static pressure than 140's at the same RPM range.
Ergo, everyone uses 120mm fans still.
>>52428070
Voltage control a shit. You're lucky if you can get below 50% rpm on a fan with that. I use 3000 rpm fans with pwm, and they sit fine at 250.
>>52428182
Any radiator worth anything today uses 140mm fans.
>>52428209
So just make them turn off if load is that low.
>>52427346
>>52426920
It's a bot.
>>52428242
And then suddenly have them spin up to 1500 rpm? Fuck that noise.
>>52428239
Did something drastically change in the last year or so?
>>52428269
140mm is the new 120mm.
>>52428266
>And then suddenly have them spin up to 1500 rpm
What do you even need 3000 RPM fans for?
>>52428279
So actual tech advancements or "we've been using the same shit too long, time to change regardless"?
>>52428269
it's a fresh new meme.
>>52428295
Bigger rads.
>>52428325
I guess that makes sense. So bigger rads but lower FPI to give them similar performance?
>>52428295
Wanted nocuta, the only ones that came in black were the industrial ones, and just kinda went with it. Headroom is nice.
>>52428341
Depends. Some have the same amount of fins. Others go the route with less for more airflow.
>>52428279
There aren't many good 140mm fans though.
>>52428348
They must be a jet engine at full speed.
>>52428364
Is there any real benefit or is it just the new cool thing now?
>>52426860
These have gone up in price since yesterday, they were $40,000 last thread
>>52428390
140mm fans push more air and are quieter.
>>52428532
>140mm fans push more air
At a much lower static pressure which is important for radiator performance. Keep up anon.
Who cares about this flimsy shit being discussed ITT, this fan Is where really high quality and performance are at.
>>52428390
pretty much, but they never get that high
>>52428561
I still have nightmares about those things. They start making awful rattling noise about a month after you start using them.
>>52428556
No. They still have more static pressure than most and it;s spread over a larger area.
>>52428605
>They still have more static pressure than most
Go find me a single 140mm case fan that has a higher SP than its direct 120mm counterpart. I'll wait.
>>52428622
Than most you idiot.
>>52428645
Most what? The only reasonable thing you could compare it to is a 120mm fan, of which are universally better at producing static pressure.
>>52427117
This is literally my first time ever reading this board and I'm so entertained and bewildered by one of you calling another one a dork that I can't even
>>52428673
Try not being autistic.
>>52428710
>>52428645
>>52428605
Am I the only one not understanding this guy or is he really that retarded?
>>52427041
>higher SP and not much louder.
That's the point, their damn near silent, with enough static pressure to push through a rad or a regular heatsink efficiently.
> cougar fans
They don't have enough SP at the noise level that a lot of people find acceptable. You haven't named a fan that out performs it in every category. Therefore that's the exact niche it fills. And it obviously does a good enough job for a shit ton of people.
I don't even own any of these fans and I'm defending them
>>52428727
You're just autistic.
>>52428753
see
>>52427825
>>52427845
I was remembering from two years ago, I didn't know Noctua had come out with drastically improved fans.
>>52428775
Okay buddy.
>>52428677
W-what's wrong with that?
>>52428813
No you really are.
The Noctua 140mm fans have way more static pressure than most 120mm fans.
>>52428932
>The Noctua 140mm fans have way more static pressure than most 120mm fans.
And now you finally answer me straight. Sure, I'll give you that. But it means fucking nothing because most 120's are $2 chinese shit. But compare a noctua 140 to a 120 and the 120 will have the better SP because that's how physics fucking works.
>>52428958
Even again;t 120mm fans optimized for 120mm the 140mm are very close.
I'm pretty sure any water based system beats air cooling as water can store more energy in it ( the reason you get hypothermia in water that a 60 degrees f and don't in 60 degree air. So short of putting a refrigeration system in cpu water is best
>>52429000
Rad space has a ton to do with it. A 240mm+ will beat any air cooler but a single 120/140 will be about the same for a lot more noise, lower reliability and risk of frying parts.
>>52428993
I'm guessing you're trying to say their 120 and 140's are still close which they are. But their 140's have to get loud as fuck to push the air they're claiming.
>>52429028
>Rad space has a ton to do with it
Basically Increasing the heat exchange surface area.
>>52429028
Listen dumbass.
The Noctua 140mm have very high static pressure.
The NF-A14 PWM with 2,08 mm H2O. the amount of fans that could beat that by 20% or even 10% is very limited.
>memecooling
What are some of the best looking air coolers /g/? Fuck OP. This is our thread now
>>52429070
Yes. A single 120 rad has about the same surface area as that bigass air cooler noctua makes. So even though water is more efficient, you're limited by the surface area.
>>52429081
Will you just stop? You're having a shit fit over nothing.Yes, a 140mm fan at 1500 RPM might make more SP than a 120 at 1200 RPM. It most certainly will at 2000RPM like most of Noctua's 140's are. Point still fucking remains, if you take a 120 and a 140 spinning at the same speed and both designed for static pressure, the 120 will always be able to create more static pressure. That's all I've been saying. Yes you can find 140's with higher SP than some 120's but you're going to find a lot more 120's with good SP than 140's unless you like jet engines for fans.
>>52429125
Looking for this also. My EK predator got recalled and I'm going back to air cooling. Can't do Noctua due to brown though.
>>52429130
Listen dumbass.
Did I say 120mm and 1200 rpm fans? No.
Listen again dumbass.
The NF-A14 PWM with 2,08 mm H2O. the amount of fans that could beat that by 20% or even 10% is very limited.
>>52429141
So get the cooler, yank the fans, put your own on and stick the noctua ones on craigslist or something.
>>52429157
You're aware Noctua makes fans that beat that by double right? The only issue is that they're loud as fuck and no one would ever use them. There's tons of fans with 3,4,5, 8, 15+mm H2O SP but they're all mini jet engines. No one actually wants them outside of server rooms because it's pointless to have fans like that in a normal build.
>>52429162
Nah, I don't want a franken cooler
>>52429200
They all pretty much look the same once you take the fans off. Just get an extra one or two to match your case fans.
>>52429125
>best looking
Fuck, another dork.
>>52429216
No. I think I'll get Scythe Fuma.
I have one of them but its bigger and is triple fanned
Don't know why people fuss over fans. The performance between the cheapest eBay shit and something like eloops is like 3c at best. Just get something that matches your build and make sure it's silent. Corsair's SP line does all of that while being relatively inexpensive.
>>52429188
1200-1500 RPM is pretty normal. As you said the 2000+ rpm are what you need to beat it.
Outside of Noctua fans there isn't much in that performance bracket.
>>52429253
>running your fans above 800rpm
>ever
>>52427004
A good air cooler with smooth case airflow has always performed better than water.
I have a noctua uh12s(or something like that) on my i7-4790k, have yet to break 60
Just saying have used this for a year on an amd and my house hasn't burnt down yet
>>52429344
5 years ago sure.
>>52429376
what is that alien hand
>>52429388
I do not have an alien hand it's not the guy from the nice couple basement posting
>>52429422
>guy from the nice couple basement posting
pls explain
>>52429431
There was a guy from the tele board who was posting about movies ect then we noticed his hand one second let me go find the archive pic
>>52429344
>Performed better than water
>better
>>52429344
That's just not true.
ITT: watercooling retards
Found the mad max ogre I knew someone would of kept it
http://m.imgur.com/gallery/OH1lW
>>52429387
hmmm
got any other sources? This looks pretty neat
I'll still probably not get one since I don't run my i7 oc'd and rendering shit 24/7 but I do like it. It's extremely quiet and keeps my CPU extremely cool. I don't think I would go for a liquid setup, personally.
>>52429513
overclocking isn't for everyone
>>52429513
Want to come sort my pc? I can never get it neat?
>>52429513
>fans cost more than pc
>>52429537
Nope, it isn't
>>52429547
>being a poorfag
I was once like you. Then I realized getting better quality parts was worth it for computers in the long run
>>52429513
My entire loop cost less than your whole fan/heatsink setup.
>>52429547
They fans arnt that expensive I only have 3 jetflow 120's and this big ass thing and it only ran me about £70
>>52429568
Lol no it doesn't, nice try though!
also
>3X louder
>risk of damaging your whole computer
>2X more expensive at least
Watercooling is for people that just wants to look cool and have money to spare. It's literally inferior to a good air cooling setup like mine in every way possible.
>>52429596
Nah it cost the same. I only run my fans at 600 rpm.
>>52429523
I am dying. Bless your heart for finding this.
>>52429626
You are very welcome I was so happy to have ran across it flicking between boards
>>52429590
alien hand is back
>>52429706
I do not have an alien hand>>52429706
>>52429513
>every port needs a fan
you're a walking meme sir
>>52429513
kek
I do hope that is not your personal computing machine sir
>>52429376
>>52429422
>that hand
>>52429461
I'm waiting.
>>52429855
Now Imagine It gently stroking your ass.
>>52429899
>>52429899
I posted a link 30 mins ago
>>52429913
Oh, you didn't quote any related posts so I didn't see It.
>>52429928
Prepare to laugh, anon. I think I woke the neighbors.
>>52429928
Sorry I couldn't reply to my own post cause I am using an app on my phone
>>52429951
I was mostly weirded out but I'll admit I laughed at the bucket part. Pretty creative 9/10.
>>52429909
Oh look, this thread again
>>52429818
Why wouldn't it be? It's completely silent during idle. Even when stress testing there is literally hardly any noise.
watercooling fags getting BTFO
>>52430238
Those charts are useless because 36db @ 2000hz would be more unpleasant than 36db @ 100hz
Air cooling will never ever outperform watercooling.
>>52430282
What the fuck are you talking about? NH d-15 beats most AIO's. These are all AIO's that are more expensive then the nh-d15 except for 1 which performed the worst.
You guys don't want me to show you the sound level graph do you?
Get shit on watercooling fags. Air cooling is master race
>>52430480
Are you stupid? Read again what I wrote.
>>52426860
Never used them. I use EK Vardars. They're damn nice fans.
>>52430502
>>52430480
>>52430238
That's like a 3 year old test.
As long as I never go above 65 degrees overclocked then I'm fine.
Got a phanteks ITX cooler on a mid tower because sexy
>>52430655
I also didn't buy an AIO because too many tubes
>>52429513
Why do you have one heatsink pointed at another heatsink? Isn't the second one just going to get heated by the first? Why do you have no airflow over your GPU heatsink?
>>52426860
didn't you make this thread 2 days ago?
get a life nigger
>>52430638
don't h1xxi's have 2700RPM fans? closed loop cooling will never win in the noise/performance department
>>52430811
see
>>52429387
And you can always change the fans.
>>52428260
on the net
>>52430638
>November 18, 2015.
You're fucking retarded
>>52431392
Shit test then since everything on there is old.
>>52430674
You need to get your eye's checked. Both of my fans on my nh-d15 are pointing towards the exhaust.
No airflow over GPU heatsink? There is literally 3 fans pointing on it. If your talking about a side intake fan then it's because that's un optimal compared to a bottom intake.
>>52430836
Tweaktown reviews are actually pretty bad when it comes to air cooling.
>>52431422
Your CPU heatsink has 2 inline fans and 2 separate metal bits. Unless those fans are blowing in opposite directions, one of them is going to blow hot air into the other. I don't know how you imagine that being an advantage.
>>52429125
>>52427424
>screwless design
this is a noctuna only feature in mercia?
because here in europ even shittier 4€fans have screwless installation for anti vibration nippels shiped with them.
>6year warranty
yeah m8 u know I still have fans from 2005 with only 3yrs warranty who wear in the middle price secment and they still run and are quite enough that I dont hear them at all.
Loudest fucking thing in my pc is then HDD spins on 7,2k rpm because its old as fuck too so fuck off shill thanks
>>52431481
Jesus christ YOU ARE RETARDED
>tfw just switched from a nepton 240m to a hyper 212 evo.
The evo is comfy as fuck, quiet, and will still allow for some slight OC'ing. The pump on the Nepton made godawful noise and is probably failing, when I called CM about they basically said they will never have them in stock again (probably due to that clc lawsuit they lost) and said to send it back for a refund.
>>52431481
The second inline fan and metal bit ensure more heat gets transferred to the same volume of air. That's how dual tower coolers work.
Putting the fans any other way would severely disrupt airflow and significantly reduce the amount of air that goes through the fins and picks up the heat. Which directly translates into much worse cooling performance.
What fan should I get for a 6700k OCd to 4.6?
>>52431400
Some more reviews for you.
>>52431400
>>52429376
this motherfucker can bend his inner thumb knuckle backwards I am about to throw the fuck up
>>52428561
REAL MAN'S FAN
