Continued from last night.
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>experience finding a job/career
>advice regarding jobs/careers
>your own stories related to jobs/careers
OP here, I am 24, with just mundane retail experience, but I want to get into a path that will help me find a career for life. I'm thinking about going into Best Buy to try to get on GeekSquad, it's not prestigious or anything but I need to get out of these shit dead end no prospect jobs I've been gravitating towards.
Building a resume on livecareer, would anyone mind looking at it?
Warning, seriously shitty resume.
http://imgur.com/mAMZtp7
Last bump before I invest the rest of the money I have in a good, strong rope.
>>52425098
>these losers are the people I talk to on /g/
god what the hell am i still doing here
>>52425379
i best you have not taken on or designed a single project since the last thread OP
what about all that second-rate advice we shouted at you
your problem isnt skills or experience you're either lazy or depressed. either way see a doc for some happy pills you'll do fine
>>52424913
>http://imgur.com/mAMZtp7
put in more of your home projects and experience outside of work. it's good padding and will add more keywords for them to pick up on
>>52425493
I may be lazy and depressed but that's something I strive to overcome without the need of medication.
I have some small projects, like setting up a headless raspberry pi media server, some small programs in Python etc.
>>52425523
Sure, should I put that under achievements?
>>52425449
You think I don't tell myself that every night when I'm in bed waiting for sleep? I'm trying to get a job at Geek Squad and get control of my life. It sucks watching my life pass me by.
>>52424913
>Be 12
>poor hood
>get job as paper delivery boy
>casheee moniiii
>rolling in cash no kids for 2-3 blocks have
hahaha stupid poor kids have no ambition
>be in highschool
>have job at grocery stocking general warez that is not foodstuffs (seasonal, cleaning, books/mags, etc)
>move out from home as a teen cause im dumb
>need money so i have to do this for a couple year till i graduate..
>>few years ago just graduating highschool
>week before prom
>buying self z5500 speakers as gift to self for grad at PC parts store
>ask guy running cash if they are hiring
>YOU WORK FULL TIME?!
>sure...
resume same day interview next day started on the last day of school
>>>3 years later company folds
>sadface
>spend a year playing SC2 and BF Bad Company 2
>ok need job now hippy
>walk into old competitors store with resume
>oh you used to work at XX cyber???
>hired on the spot
>>2 years later
>Roomie recommends me for helpdesk job
>flop interview
>hired as sysadmin
>free travel and training
maybe ive gotten lucky rolls so far
/autobio till now
>>52425523
Also, would some good references help? I've managed to make a bunch of friends with people high up in business/tech fields. One of them is a Senior HR manager for a tech staffing firm, she says she would be able to send me to any firm with her recommendation and they would hire me p much no questions asked but she wants me to earn it myself since I would respect myself more for it.
>>52425724
yeah like "personal experience" or "skills" section write brief bullets of what was needed, what you used to do it, and how it applies to where you're applying
making a cover letter with a brief statement of your intentions and availability. it sounds corny but it's your change to quickly try and swing things in your favour
>>52424913
This image is so stupid.
It's easy to get a job. Any brain dead immigrant has like 5.
>>52425865
and works 5
that is indeed brain damage
it's a tech board not 7-11 general
although it's hard to tell sometimes
What kind of computer engineering specialization should I look for to really get the most out of the degree in terms of both money making and contribution to technological advancement?
Graduate high school work at a tire store
get Associates Degree in some computer bulshit.
get job placement for $8.50 an hour
a year year later steel mill calls I now make $140,000 a year pouring molten metal into a copper mold surrounded by water
fuck all the hippies that say do a job you love money won't make you happy
I work in a shithole make a ton of money and I'm happy and the family's taken care of relax when you have time off with the kids money makes everything easier
>>52426027
thats fucking dope
I went to a state college, got a meme degree in CS, and took an 87k offer right away doing software development. CS is literally a get rich quick scheme. Who cares if it pops or gets over saturated in a few years, it doesnt take more than a couple years of education/training to break into a new field
>>52426066
You just gotta find that money that fits into your social/family life shitty work makes you love your off time that much more
>>52424913
35, been a manager at a uranium mine in Australia, pays well at over 300k but I feel like smashing my head against the wall at the end of most days now. Really wishing I'd gotten a better career.
>>52426139
should be a mechanic, i hear its fulfilling
satisfaction of a job well done
cant get the job done when it never stops
now get back to work. Those schedules and efficiency reports dont do themselves
>>52426125
you are the smartest poster on /g/ in a long time
>>52426162
Apparently a lot of the diesel mechanics are happy with their jobs, and they can earn around 80k. But it seems a bit late to switch careers now that I'm in my 30s.
>>52425098
>http://imgur.com/mAMZtp7
What about sql server? Can you write stored procedures?
>>52425098
>http://imgur.com/mAMZtp7
I dunno dude maybe make up something about the time you exceeded sales targets by 500% or something.
>>52426193
well... do anything that does not involve headhitting. lol.
yeah it's true though big-engine diesel people can make some good scrill as well.. but yeah not 1/3 a mil stop complaining about your slave life with that money
>>52426125
nah fuck that. i've done well paid shitty work for years and it feels like pissing your life down the drain. I'm now having a nice long holiday (which i guess i can only do because years of well paid shitty work) but quitting shitty job and happiness returns to life so fast.
>>52426313
are you fucking a hot girl and feeding kids? that's what people mean when they say get a life
>>52426313
You need to be strong enough to not let your work define you put in your hours and then go do your thing whether its family drugs or hang gliding money makes it all easier
>>52425098
get an a+ cert, it's basically a ticket to entry level IT
I cant find a job to save my life, why?
>Cashier at hardware store making 8.00/hr most customers are friendly but deal with occasional angry/drunken construction worker
Fast forward 1 Year
>Get job at metal factory making 10.50/hr now work with puerto rican ex-cons but work is good and banging Qt azn bitch after work
Fast forward 3 months
>Get job at startup near my college doing Android dev for 12.00/hr thought it was a great opportunity at the time, til i realized what a shit show the company really was and that they were trying to build a business by hiring college students at laughable wage instead of paying full-time engineers
Fast forward 1 year
>Get internship at well-known tech corporation at 24.00/hr thinking I have truly made it, doing software dev with a team of interns, make good connections with management, befriend coworkers and hook up with Qt intern at a party after work
Fast forward 1 year
>Hired by same tech corp. as full time software engineer at ~40.00/hr life is good, have nice apt in metro area, thinking i have made it, but strangely feeling depression due to some personal circumstances and personal neglect, but finding ways of dealing with it through meditation and lifting.
Overall i think i've been blessed
>>52426387
Community college and worthless experience for the majority of fields. No one wants a peace corps fuck, they want intelligent individuals with work specific experience or at least something to show competence in that regard.
>>52424913
Jesus christ this is depressing. I'm graduating in cs and I have a 6k offer. Why aren't you fags jumping on the cs bandwagon? Just do a bootcamp or some shit.
>graduate uni with cs degree
>no internships but I made a game for Android
>this got me a job at corporate giant as Android dev
>in the first week there i asked my manager for a weed hookup
>he ended up loving me
>we got laid off from corporate giant, but he dragged me on to several other jobs, each with higher pay than the last
Long story short, nepotism is the most important thing in IT.
>>52426387
>acheivements
>>52426359
yeah i get what you're saying but I ain't that sort of person. I dream work when i work. makes me a fucking dominator but unhappy.
>>52426326
nah still don't particularly want kids. no amount of picking up hotties in bars or getting handie js at lunch helped.
>>52426387
>I can't find a job
You're better off asking >>>/adv/, but it's probably because you haven't demonstrated you're able to _hold_ a job. You need to explain why you left your positions. Were you laid off, were you fired? You need to explain that shit.
Also, make sure you aren't branching too far away from your branch of work with that resume. Some would say networking is more powerful than that piece of paper because those people have jobs.
>>52426387
Dude get an internship. You're kinda late in the season but start studying interview questions.
>>52426492
u need a stable tap bruv. try connection it might work
that or you're gay.... try that too
if nothing works you're an asex and just go write some poetry or something. cuck
>>52426387
stop changing degrees.
get a job in a bar. the job market is saturated with over-qualified people these days
>23
>lol socsci/private-liberal-arts BA
>DoD contractor; I administrate research contracts. I have my clearance. I have my sanity.
>I want to be a programmer
Help me fuck up my life /g/
>work in a factory, the work and money are both meh
>get CS degree
>work as a web developer for a year
>the ceo tells me in advance that they are not keeping me because they don't have enough work
>my manager gets drunk and tells me that I am the worst developer he has ever met and that I should change careers asap
>next day he tells me that he might have been drunk but he actually meant what he said
How do I step my game up, /g/?
>>52426387
4 yr skill gap
u a drug user brother?
if no write what you were doing in the meantime i mean for shit,.,,,,,
it's not a list of jobs its a small sales pitch
>>52426544
Study interview questions and apply, that's the only way you fag.
>>52426544
Literally just learn JavaScript, CSS, and html and you can get a job as a front end developer.
>>52426558
git gud
>>52426574
hhhhhhhhhhaach tee em ell
>>52425098
>Summary: "I worked before"
>Accomplishments: I showed up"
Jesus, dude hire someone to write your resume for you.
Has anyone transitioned from mechanical engineering into software? I work in the aerospace industry, and the only part of my job that I really enjoy anymore is coding.
>>52426387
>collegiat athletics
>on a resume
>>52426387
Your resume is filled with a whole lot of nothing. Employers would rather hire someone who's worked at McDonald's for 3 years which guarantees dedication than someone who's been flipflopping all over the place like you have. Get internships in places that matter, no one gives a damn that you help out at the soup kitchen.
Also, don't put failed degrees on your resume, make something up to pad the years.
I got fired yesterday from my IT manager job. I'll be honest that I made an inappropriate joke which was the excuse they used. What actually happened is the company got acquired and they wanted to nix my position and bring in a desktop tech. This is the third acquisition I've gone through after being hired where this has happened.
I'm going to freelance websites and IT consulting. At this point, I've been F'd over by so many companies I don't recommend working for anybody. Do your own thing or get a partner who can market and sell while you do the grunt work. You'll never be free in a corporate IT job. Job security is a lie.
>>52426503
most with jobs would say
>>52426503
Ive never been fired but ive left becasue i went off to college during the first job and my, aling with everyone elses "term of service" ended. Im literally applying to anything and everything.
>>52426561
>4 yr skill gap
I went off to college
no i dont do drugs
I am a former Infantry Marine and then worked as a Private Military Contractor in Iraq for a few companies. Now I am a full time student.
Can I just pay someone to change all those years of war-stuff into a good resume? I know that's a bit lazy but I really, really don't feel like it at the moment plus I'm not sure if I would be the best at it.
By the time I am ready to actually start submitting it I should have A+, Network+, Security+, CCNA, CEH, OSCP (yes many of those are redundant, it's just the way my education is progressing). Also I know certs are dumb, blah, blah, blah but someone with my background needs a way to get the foot in the door. Also the OSCP is most definitely not dumb.
>>52426654
>IT manager
>Replaced by a desktop tech
What?
>>52426661
>Also I know certs are dumb
certs aren't dumb
>>52426387
>acheivements
>Lunix
Jesus christ
>>52426661
Make a public Google docs link, let /g/ fix you up a resume.
>>52426654
Basically, I ran the entire department at the place I got hired. I was the Infrastructure Engineer/Desktop tech. The company that bought us had a team of IT folks and they run all their apps in the cloud and use google apps for business. Since they are centrally managing in the cloud, the only thing they need to deploy on site is their new core router with a site-to-site vpn and a DC that will be remotely controlled. At this point they don't need somebody with all of the extra skills as they can handle that at home base.
>>52426694
I know this is going to sound stupid and like a lie but I promise I am not liying; there is stuff on my resume right I would rather not put on a public doc do to my own and others OPSEC.
And no I don't mean super secret ninja stuff; I mean names, locations, etc.
I will try to edit it in a bit though, might as well get started.
>>52426702
Stop working for shitty ass small businesses.
>>52425948
Machine learning or Artificial intelligence
>>52426731
2 companies were large corporations, the last one was small business.
I'm done with it. I just came here to offer advice.
>>52426758
Should have gone into Networking/Security.
>>52426661
>certs are dumb
whoever told you this is retarded
>>52426471
Not just IT man, getting job is more easier if you got acquaintance that know how you work and your work ethics or at the very least know you and remember you
A tip from muh senpai : when you got a job, make sure you are known, either by your accomplishment or your social nature, that way you can earn promotion more easily
>>52426387
>>52426477
>>52426453
>>52426503
>>52426519
>>52426527
>>52426561
>>52426619
>>52426641
is this better or worse i cant even tell
>>52426561
leave out left due to
say completed service term as contracted or something. you fulfilled it, it was not a challenge or something you would have done if not required type of tilt
it's all about being up for new challenges and not in a spot for now money
>>52426997
>>52427039
i replied to wrong post
>>52426997
Put education at top. At this point you're not going to be applying for real software engineering gigs. And take out skills unless you actually put languages you're proficient at.
What kind of jobs should I expect with a degree in CE?
>>52424913
This basic format has gotten me a few jobs and I have some interviews lined up for my next one.
I think its proven to be pretty good. Its to-the-point as far as "I am a developer, here is proof, hire me"
>>52427092
I didn't include the last page because it isn't relevant (references, personal activities)
>>52427091
More than likely a software job. Unless you actually want to do hardware then you can go into government/private for network stuff or go do fab shit. You'll more than likely just do software like the fucking rest of us.
>>52427091
I take it you're in Canada because "Computer Engineering" is basically a more generalized computer science in Canada and it is pretty common
The CTO at my last job had a 4-year CE degree and like ten years programming experience
I would use it to get development/technical specialist positions
>>52427119
I was interested in hardware mostly. I've been told EE is better for hardware, but I don't know true that is.
>>52427138
In the US.
>>52427092
Fuck dude that's long for a mid level developer.
>>52427153
>EE is better for hardware
Nah I've seen hardware guys with cs, physics, and ce degrees. You just have to apply for those type of jobs if you want it.
>>52427153
CE is basically introductory electrical engineering (circuitry, etc.), some introductory computer science (boolean logic, memory management) and then the rest I think is stuff anywhere between CAD and actual programming in stuff like Java and C#
At least that is what it is like for a friend of mine in Canada. I don't know what CE is like in the US but I don't think it is very different.
>>52427161
I don't even really consider myself a mid-level developer. I'm aiming for a $70,000 CAD career next which I think is median salary according to the ESDC.
I basically just did contract work and co-op work terms during my time in College and as of last week I graduated. If anything I'm still entry-level relatively speaking.
Do you have any suggestions?
>>52426997
>volunteerism
christ, do people actually use this word?
in my experience it is the people who lie most who get the job. some people will see through it but there have been plenty of times where i've said "no they're obviously full of shit" only to be overruled and stuck with a lying moron
>Currently full-time student at local community college (I know).
>IT degree, Computer Networking
>Doing well so far, in the second semester
>Third semester is the first COOP semester
>In constant fear just thinking about the interview
I mean, I've been in an interview before, but that was for a shit cashier job at a retail store where they have low expectations.
I was guaranteed the job anyway because the GM had a hard-on for my friend who I put down as a reference.
>>52427226
>In constant fear just thinking about the interview
The strongest and most valuable asset for me was to just remain calm and talk to the interviewer as a normal human being.
On multiple occasions I was complimented by interviewers for two different jobs because of how calm and cool I was. Setting yourself apart from the rest of the nervous students this way is HUGE.
If you believe the company would be lucky to you have you rather than vice-versa this is rather easy. Just relax man and you'll be great. This is a skill in and of itself.
>>52427212
At the Uni I'm going to, the CE course is just EE with 2-3 courses replaced with CS courses.
It's because of this that I'm wondering if CE is even worth it, or if I should switch to EE with something like CS as a minor.
>>52425098
it is very very foolish of you to put 100% attendance as an accomplishment. That is not an accomplishment
>>52427291
As someone graduating from CE in the spring, it is much easier to get a job if you go straight EE or CS
>>52427291
>It's because of this that I'm wondering if CE is even worth it
I can tell you that CE is seen as decent in terms of employability. You're seen as above the 2-year computer programmer graduates and yet a tiny notch below the 4-year computer science graduates.
If you have a choice right now between CS and CE I would go with CS, however if you're already on your way to CE just keep going and pick up a Microsoft or Oracle certification some time.
CE + Cert > CS
CS > CE
Again, my frame of reference is in Canada. And remember work experience trumps any sort of differences between degree reputation.
>>52427345
My post also makes sense with EE replaced with CS.
EE graduates can walk into any major telecommunications company and grab a sick salary like its nothing.
![dilbert[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BVR2OBh.jpg "dilbert[1].jpg")
>>52427226
Everyone's stressed out when they start out, after your second or third interview you'll figure it out.
>>52427226
interviews are easy as long as you're not a spastic retard
bathe, groom yourself, and for fucks sake wear a goddamn tie. even if you don't need one for the job, always wear one for the interview. try to cover any tattoos and remove piercings, you're unlikely to get in trouble for them after being hired though.
give a firm handshake, avoid uh's and uhm's, and avoid giving simple answers to questions, more than just a yes or no (unless of course it's an obviously simple question)
speak clearly
check out the companies website and have a couple questions prepared to ask the interviewer
don't ask about salary (at least at the first interview)
try not to over- or under-sell yourself
show up about ten minutes early, give yourself time for traffic (if you're not familiar with the area, do a test drive out there a day or two ahead of time so you don't get lost)
lastly, and most importantly, be prepared to bullshit if necessary.
>>52427345
>>52427343
What would I miss out on from CE if I switch to EE? Is the CS portion of a CE degree used mostly to get software related jobs?
>>52426081
In a state college doing same meme degree? Will take literally any advice u can offer?
>>52427212
Are you thinking of applying in the US? If you are it's customary to keep it down to 1 page or most of time the recruiters won't read it if you're entry level.
>>52427406
oh, and once you actually have some real IT experience, if you're applying for a variety of different jobs, tailor your resume for each application around whatever the specialization is (networking/server/database administration etc)
>>52426661
if you were Military, why not try clearancejobs? Needs new people all the time.
Or did you get out because of a fuck-up?
>>52427414
>Is the CS portion of a CE degree used mostly to get software related jobs?
Really it depends on the job you're going to be getting
If you're going to be a programmer CE is better than EE.
If you're going to be working with hardware in the back room of a major telecom company, EE is better than CE.
If you're going to be some dude that helps out with the SQL databases and cloud platform then CS is better than both
You should ask yourself what are you going to be doing? What can you see yourself doing 40 hours a week without losing your mind?
>>52427427
I'm Canadian. In College one of our early courses (3-year program) was how to write a resume and they basically recommended the format I have. I imagine the difference in the volume of applicants between the countries probably has something to do with it
>>52427414
Yes, EE will contain less programming in general and more hardware circuits and power stuff. It depends on what you like, you should consider if you like software or circuits more.
>>52427396
I'm on my tenth interview, have had no success so far
>>52427458
>volume of applicants between the countries probably has something to do with
Hey man more money and jobs down here man. Probably easy to get a visa for tech.
>>52427440
oh, one last thing
when emailing someone your resume, send it as a pdf. it's more likely to keep it's proper layout than if you send a word doc.
>>52427498
I'm waiting to hear back from a bunch of major Canadian banking institutions before considering relocating
I won't rule it out though.
>>52427497
if you're entry level, you have a shitload of competition.
also, nepotism runs rampant.
keep trying.
>>52427504
Dont listen to this troll, pdfs are blocked by most businesses email filters.
Just got a job as a Enterprise Java developer, pay is good and great perks. Also doing PL/SQL. More of a C stack programmer.
Wish me luck bros.
>>52427618
Don't worry bro I just got a job as a java web dev too but the pay is ridiculously high. I'm going to do a lot of drugs.
>>52425098
>http://imgur.com/mAMZtp7
In which path would you like to go?
Also, use LinkedIn. Have a nice photo, a nice description. Talk about what you like to do. Which tools you use. Events you have been.
Also change that shitty template.
Could help you more, if you're still around ?
>>52427655
Feels good brah
>>52425764
How old are you?
>>52427655
Save a line for me.
>>52427540
i have never seen a business do this.
>>52427769
Same
>>52426997
What the hell is lunix?
>>52426997
Also, are you applying to what? cs field? software?
>>52427669
I'm still here, been reading the thread.
>>52427669
>>52427983
Should have answered your question I guess, I've been looking at Geek Squad (which is where I'm going to take my resume) since it's probably the entry level I have most luck getting. I used to think I was interested in programming but as a career I don't know if I would find it all that fulfilling. I enjoy the idea of setting up and maintaining networks and am studying for and hope to have completed by this summer my CCNA.
>>52428034
Geek squad is kind of fucked as you have to talk down to people most situations and follow standard procedure rather then logic.
Good luck with it anyway anon
>>52428034
That's a nice thing, I guess.. I mean the CCNA.
So, do you like networks? Have you created a custom network at home? DMZ? NAT? Have you got anything like that?
>>52428095
Nothing physically, the closest thing to setting up networks I've done is in Cisco simulators and such.
I know I should order some hardware to actually use in my home, but honestly strapped for money and uncertainty of the right way to do it all has left me doing nothing.
My priority right now is moving out of this shit job I'm in.
>>52428168
I don't want to harsh on you... But you don't get a job and then learn. You learn, and then get a job.
>>52426997
>Combined education & CERT's (remove national service)
>Move education/CERT's to top
>Replace volunteerism with Charity work and move to bottom
>Move skills to under education/CERT's add what you're working towards
>Move your name and address to the side, it's your CV not a story
>maybe a summery at the top, you know some cool shit about the time you wrestled a bear idk
Just fuck my shit up /g/aylords.
This one's a little old, but the only difference is that my GPA is a little lower now (3.80).
Never had a real internship before, so I desperately need to score one next semester. I submitted this resume to a career fair (didn't really attend though) and got one hit from a telecom company, but that sounded a little boring.
>>52428034
The Geek Squad is fucking garbage and you'll immediately hate not only your job, but yourself after just 3 weeks.
>>52428232
I find that the case at every job I've worked at, my current one is low stress, low responsibility, but my boss is gaslighting the fuck out of me and it's degrading my sanity and morale the longer I stay, I think I'd welcome the bureaucracy of a job like GS at this point.
>>52424913
>tfw this shitty resume got me a job doing cutting-edge research and now i'm bro-tier with IT helpdesk guy
>>52428223
You talk more about your projects than your skills. Also, why aren't your skills below education? Are your projects more important than education? If not, why more space for projects than education?
Same for work...
And skills...
>>52428223
1. Change win32 to Win32
2. Change 2d to 2D
3. Change 3.35 to 3.75 (lie, 3.35 isn't impressive)
4. Change present to Present
5. Indent Languages, etc. beneath Skills just like everything else beneath Work Experience is indented (it looks misaligned)
6. Change api to API
7. Change git to Git
8. Change win32/winapi to Win32/WinAPI
9. You change between using seasons like Fall and Summer to using months like February and September
ALSO YOU MISSPELLED FEBRUARY RETARD!
>>52428310
"R,"
should be "R",
Also why is R even in quotes
Also R is a language
Change Unix to UNIX
Your indentation beneath professional experience looks fucking retarded
Why are you even mentioning High School?
ALSO YOUR BLOCKS (SQUARES) CHANGE TO BULLETS (CIRCLES) RETARD!
Ausfag here. Wanna get into computer systems engineering. I am thinking of doing a bachelor then maybe a masters of I.T. is this a viable option?
>>52428383
>masters of I.T.
I don't think that is a real degree. Having a masters of I.T. is like having a masters of biology.
You get a masters to specialize in something.
Get a BSc in Computer Science if you can then go from there
>>52428329
> MISSPELLED FEBRUARY
HOLY SHIT HOW HAVE I MISSED THAT TILL NOW FUCK I'VE ACTUALLY SENT THIS TO PEOPLE
3. Change 3.35 to 3.75 (lie, 3.35 isn't impressive)
Would it be weird to remove the overall GPA and leave JUST the GPA in major? I'd rather just take it off than lie about it, even if that means taking off both of them.
Are apprenticeships a good route to go down? I'm UK, so is there any well known ones that stand out and I should be looking for? Also, what are some generally "good"/recommended IT professions/roles to pursue as a potentially career choice? I'm somewhat lost in just how many roles there are and I wanna ensure I pick a "good" one (availability, lifestyle, pay, etc.) As you can prob tell I'm new to this all but I think it is for me, willing to learn just need to pick something and go down the right path.
>>52428376
in biology we just use R for its statistical computing, so it's equated to a program. it's a software environment.
"R" is in quotes because most biologists are literal retards
>blocks to squares
because finished in LibreOffice™®©
>>52428407
When I was researching the job many websites had something along the lines of "having a masters will allow you to go into academic or research" also would I have more of a chance with a BSc of computer science?
Question:
What does a CCNA actually do day-to-day?
>>52428439
Just lie about it, no one cares. You get IT jobs by making shit up and not getting busted. "Contribution" to an open source project can get you hired if the HR has no clue about development.
>>52427519
There seems to be a lot open in that area at the moment if you've got a CS background/programming skills and a little job experience. I'm wishing I bit into the CS meme instead of wasting my time for 4 years with nothing to show for it.
>>52428468
>Receive ticket to open ACL on our ASA
>Complete work plan on work to be done
>Log change record
>Actually open the ACL
>Close ticket as complete
>>52428449
Then say:
R Programming Language
>>52428439
>Would it be weird to remove the overall GPA and leave JUST the GPA in major? I'd rather just take it off than lie about it, even if that means taking off both of them.
I've never put a GPA my resume because my work experience speaks for my academic ability. To put GPA on a resume is strange to me but to each their own.
>>52428310
>http://imgur.com/mAMZtp
IT Recruiter here.
9/10 would call. ALWAYS take your resume to a graphicdesign/UI/UX before you submit it.
A clean organized resume with a nice layout will bump you to the top. It helps it stick out in a pile of MStemplate resumes. Also, use high def .pdf for digital copies.
How do I know what I want to do?
Community college nearby offers general computer courses along with a more specialized networking course. What exactly does networking involve? (sounds stupid, but) What would be an average day as someone in a networking related job?
>>52428721
I would guess 25% of your time is spent typing xxx.xx.xx.xxx numbers
25% of your time is spent doing cable management
50% of your time is spent helping 30 year old women find the pictures of their kids they downloaded from google onto your company backup server
I assume this is the why don't I have a job thread
I have no money and have an hour walk to the nearest town (which is shit). And I live in America.
I want money to buy expensive audio equipment and left-handed musical instruments and otaku paraphernalia
I need something to do that gets me money
I tried cracking open SICP but haven't touched it in a while not sure why
probably because I felt like I needed to know more math things before I started computer science
That pre-calculus class I took senior year probably was worthless
I have no solid long-term goals thus no tenacity
Tell me to do something
>>52428721
>average day as someone in a networking r
http://blog.pluralsight.com/first-cisco-networking-job
>>52424913
>advice regarding jobs/careers
Stop being shit at computers and it is easy to find a job.
>>52428770
I always wonder... what do you do everyday? What did you do today?
>>52428770
www.codeacademy.com
linuxacademy.com
>>52428817
Today I watched the new Star Wars in IMAX because my mother wanted me to
when she's not around I sit in bed all day listening to music and contemplating what I am to do with my life
>>52428817
the NEET schedule is:
>sleep till 3
>wake up
>parents get home
>dad is disappoint
>go into basement
>play wargame
>play star citizen
>jack it to zooskool
>play kerbal space program
>go on exhentai
>have to go to sleep because parents get up at 4 and they'll be mad
>>52428837
Don't you learn nothing? Don't you read books? Don't you read the news? You're just blankly looking at the blank wall?
Also, what kind of music do you listen to?
>>52428880
I watch Fox News and browse /pol/
I ought to read more but can never find an engaging book
of the books I own I have Stormbreaker and Dracula on my shelf and I don't want to read either for different reasons
I listen to jazz, post-rock, whatever you call what ミドリ does, and Dimmu Borgir
>>52425764
18+3+2 = 23 + however long he's worked at his sysadmin job.
>>52429038
To say that shit, you should had keep it shut.
>>52425724
> I have some small projects, like setting up a headless raspberry pi media server, some small programs in Python etc.
dude, that's literally worse than nothing. you didn't show any initiative at all, thats all basic stuff that can be done by following a guide.
>>52425948
if you have to ask, you aren't gonna make it
>>52428439
don't put gpa on there unless it's a perfect mark
>>52428463
I'm american going to UQ right now.
I almost got meme'd into going to QUT for a Bachelors of Computer Science.
Now here's a little information you need to understand what I'm about to say. In Murrica, when someone gets a Bachelor of Science (BSc) in Computer Science, we say "I have a Bachelors in Computer Science".
But in Australia, they have a different system, and they have both an actual degree called a Bachelors of Computer Science, and a Bachelor of Science in Computer Science.
The BSc is credible and recognised internationally, while the Bachelor of Computer Science is about the equivalent of a trade school certificate in the US.
Thank fuck I clarified that before wasting my money on a BS in CS.
>>52427618
Fuck I'm jelly. I am about to graduate, couldn't get an internship last year. I have interviewed at a few places but I always fuckup the interview.
>>52429409
Does it matter if you're going to grad school after that?
>>52429474
depends on the grad school, i'd say. i think as long as you have any diploma or degree you can get into a higher program in australia. (i have a conditional offer for Stanford right now, i'm pretty sure if i had a BS of IT Stanford would tell me to fuck off, but other schools, i can't say) i'm talking about the differences that employers will care about.
>>52429507
meant Bachelors of IT, not BSc of IT, btw.
>>52428439
>HOLY SHIT HOW HAVE I MISSED THAT TILL NOW FUCK I'VE ACTUALLY SENT THIS TO PEOPLE
ayyyyy
>>52429005
have you been informed that fox news is not actual news? that they are statistically the most inaccurate "news" channel in the world, because their business is in "entertainment news", e.g. asserting bombastic claims and statements in order to awe and shock viewers, rather than providing objectively correct information from which the consumer can form an opinion? You must research this thoroughly.
>>52429005
read the book of five rings, you weeb
>>52424913
I'm about to graduate from college with a CS degree, with a job lined up. The best advice I have is to not lose hope. I can't promise that it gets easier.
Just got back from orientation at LaunchCode.org's CS50X class. There are about 200 people signed up to go through CS50X in person over the next 16 weeks. 2/3 college-age women, rest are neckbeards/asians/etc (i qualify as neckbeard i guess)
they seem confident that they can place anyone who passes the course in a programming internship at the very least. One of the speakers did HALF of cs50x last fall and now has a job as a full stack web developer.
looks like i'm going to get a jobby soon guys, pretty cool
I just got my CCENT
I thought I would be more excited.
No job yet. But I have been turned down multiple times this year just because I cannot work till May. Any advice on my resume?
>>52429625
M U S A S H I
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Ask a Google intern anything. Got my return offer for next summer today. At the end of this summer, I'll interview for a full time job.
>>52427268
>someone's a nervous wreck
>JUST BE CALM! :^)
This is like the "works fine for me" for the nerve-wracked.
>>52427406
Solid advice.
My pre-interview two-cents: set time to prepare, research the company, have a fake conversation with yourself as if you were talking with your interviewer. Do this the day/afternoon before the interview at the LATEST. Then take your mind off of it, enjoy the rest of the day--and make sure you get enough sleep. Wake up, go over what you studied to get yourself in the mood for the interview.
>>52429602
That's television in general. At least Fox News doesn't doctor Trump videos to make him seem like Hitler or pretend Bernie Sanders' plans are economically viable.
>>52429721
Not get a BA in CS.
>>52429861
No dude, that's Fox News in general.
>>52429721
>serif
>font size
mfw
dont mix fonts
don't use anything bigger than 12pt
make it less boring, pad it if you need to
list school, years attended, notable coursework
use complete sentences in your summary if you're not going to bullet. write out your github link. if you're confident you can contribute to UI, UX, or framework, include that; it's important. for teaching assistant, list specific situations that you shined.
get certifications. nobody gives a shit if you're fluent in a language if you're not certified.
>>52429759
Google's a big place. what is your job?
>>52429861
>if other tv stations are doing it then it's okay, it's not like i could ever find a reputable news source
he's already drank the Faux News koolaid
>>52425764
How much training did you have going in to the Sysadmin? That's a hell of a story.
>>52429914
>black lives matter (more than white lives)
watch one of the redditor mods now track my posting waiting for some minor infraction so he can ban me and pretend it wasn't because I called him a cuck
>>52429955
>implying any propaganda fishbowl is worth swimming in, least of which is fox news
>>52428614
Different anon, but would I get "would hire" points for setting it in Latex and sending a pdf? A buddy of mine has a nice, clean and simple template I can use
>>52424913
Jobs grow on Jobrees! idiot.
>>52429946
you ever saw one of those 20-something does-nothing-with-her-lifes touting their political views declaring that you are evil for wanting that racist Trump in the white house and that she is smarter than you because she watches 'the news' (I assume CNN). Also that 'educate yourself' line. I love that. As if you aren't going to find a news source that doesn't have a bias of any kind. Not like she'd know the difference. She'd probably think the 'fact' in politifact makes that site any less full of shit.
>>52427226
>GM had a hard-on for my friend who I put down as a reference.
Do not work for faggots.
>>52430011
once again,
>implying implications
enjoy your faux news. you're addicted to it, because that's what it's designed to be
>>52430021
who cares dude?
>>52430021
>font color
LibreOffice failed me again
you got me
>>52430041
What's with the 'once again'? I didn't see you imply implications before. The lack of female contact must be messing with your mind. Or my mind. Difference is that my problems in that regard stem from my being over the age of 18.
>>52429924
I did list all those things but deleted them because 4chan. I didn't use complete sentences because otherwise I would just be saying I am.. I am.. etc I was advised against that.
>>52430067
you're a NEET. it's okay for you to watch fox news, because you'll never affect change in the world anyway. you're harmless.
>>52430081
I am a registered Republican and know the location of my local polling station. Don't underestimate me.
>>52430094
ah, seems the modern republican party's appeal to the lowest common denominator using FUD tactics has yet again failed to falter in it's recruitment of the uneducated, unengaged masses.
you've been cucked if you think the republicans of the last 100 years represent any of the ideals the party was founded on.
>>52430069
oh, okay, I didn't realize you edited as well as redacted
>I am I am I am
use 3rd person transitioned to 1st. i.e: "A porn-oriented NEET with a passion for bad anime, I am extremely skilled at shitposting, prolapsing my anus accidentally after eating too many cheetos, and downloading obscure porn .NZTs from usenets. I look forward to applying my masturbation skills in the workplace to completely reduce the net productivity of the office and will work hard to download nothing but malware to the servers you gave me admin privileges to."
>>52430110
How do you manage to make your random nonsense typing form english words? When I type random nonsense it looks like fanopvsdnvpokrn- -ir npan- avnpoera vgnpv napivnregkpmvl;mnapvoeqn which doesn't mean anything in any language I know.
I'm curious, because I do not know which direction to go after graduation. My degree is Associate's of Applied Science in CyberSecurity, which the coursework was focused mainly on network security. Throughout the course work I have gotten CCENT, CCNA Routing and Switching, Network+, Security+, Linux+, CCNA Security, LPIC-1, and Suse Certified Linux Admin certs. I'm just not sure what salary I could demand and exactly which direction I want to head for best income potential. I would ideally like to get into cloud security, but I feel like I am the shakiest on cloud technology.
>>52430136
i insult you by calling you uneducated, (true, not in education) and unengaged (true, not in employment or training) and this is what you respond with?
if you had any sense at all you would be agreeing with me, and realising that you need to get your shit together, and that all of your decisions up until this point have been based on a grand delusion that has yielded for you precisely nothing.
failed to collage
will go back and finnish some day, but my degree will be in memematics instead of engineering because I didn't get my head st8 until too l8.
currently working in manufacturing for a well known car company.
got to build that work experience, spent too many years on-off between school, bands, NEET. can't/shouldn't put most of it on my resume.
"production associate" aka factory bitch. Hired through temp agency. $17/hr
my feet hurt every day.
>>52430190
do you have gf?
if not you could be making like 70k/yr if you're hourly and not salaried
>>52430170
anoche yo chingé tu madre
letzte Nacht ich habe deine Mutter geficken
昨夜はお前の母のマンコに俺のチンポが入りました
>>52430204
你再这样我著作你了,小日本儿“哦他哭”。你理解没什么。
>>52426757
i seriously doubt anyone on this board is capable of that
>>52427445
>Infantry
>security clearance
Haha, no. Unless he was an officer, in which case he might have a secret clearance.
>>52430247
if the chinese can understand that who am I to judge
>tfw just started firmware development internship for HPC storage company last monday
writing C code for storage servers is like a baptism by fire. I'm learning a lot, but definitely hoping to work a little higher on the stack when I graduate.
r8
>>52430204
clearly machine translate. only a machine would use that many pronouns.
>>52430273
说了的谷歌翻译孩子的。
>>52424913
How you find a job are "implementation details" others don't want to be bothered about. Your parents care about how you manage to find a job just as much as a web browser cares about how the network card manages to send frames. I.e., not at all. They expect a result, they don't care about the "how" and don't want to be bothered by it just as a browser doesn't give a shit about a network's card problems with sending and receiving frames.
>>52426757
Either of those would probably require a master's degree. It's a shit ton of math
does anyone know the name or have a link to the github of the program that shows what your document in latex looks like as a pdf?
i remember it needed sumatra pdf too
>>52430204
hey bro you should totally put on your resume that you speak fluent spanish, german and japanese. WOWZER!
>>52430292
そうですか?
I don't actually speak german
no recuerdo mucho del español que me aprendé en la escuela
no lo mucho uso
>>52430198
had a collage gf, she moved on with her life
moved back in with my folks. I forgot one part, I worked my way up from data entry -> basic javascript stuff at a crappy startup before I got fired for shreksual harassment :^)
then i had to move back home because no income :^(
when I already had a gf it was fine bringing her home around my folks but idk how to handle meeting a new girl when i'm a 25 yr old formet neet with a messy room full of computers. Don't care too much these days anyways because girls don't care about Linux, they can't skateboard, and they can't play guitar.
I could be making bank if I took tons of overtime, but I hate working. If I could do it while still looking like a "team player" I would work like 4 hrs a day. maybe 32 hours a week absolute MAX.
I think I am going to rise up real fast at this meme company though because I 1. know basic and advanced electrical principles (not really needed) but mostly 2. Am a native english speaker and not dumb as a fucking rock. Apparently I am due for "special recognition by management" or something because I haven't obviously fucked anything up and don't need to be told what to do 5 times in a row
>>52429990
Different different anon, but Word has an export to .pdf option.
>>52430331
lmfao, you don't "actually speak" much of anything do you?
>>52430331
Yeah, your spanish is terrible and i bet your japanese is even worse. Focus on one language first.
>>52430350
I can speak fluent english, thus am automatically more employable than anyone who speaks spanish as a first language.
>>52430331
NEET logic:
>lose an argument
>sperg out by copypasting google translations of go fuck yourself, or fuck your mother
Anyone US Air force here? What are the best or shit computer/IT jobs? Shooting for cyber transport systems (3D1X2)
>>52430369
oh forgot the final crucial step
>actually think it will change anything
>>52430369
>>52430067
said he was over 18
>>52424913
google asked me for my resume a couple days ago
I doubt it's going to go anywhere because I've never taken a coding course in my life, I just did their coding challenge and they sent me an email asking for it.
aside from that I work a dead end job moving tables, because nobody wants someone who hasn't gone to college and I can't afford to go to college.
unwilling NEET here, I haven't had a job in 8 or so years, and I can't even remember exact dates of when I was working, plus to top it off I have a felony on my record. wat do?
>inb4 kill self
>>52430333
good, man
remember, a man's value only increases past 24
you sound like you have your shit handled
>>52430369
You forgot the part where the three or four other NEETs will reply to that one NEET to feel like part of a winning team for once in their miserable lives.
>>52430400
story time!!!!
what's the felony?
>>52430400
jesus christ
get certifications
steal enough money to buy a $200 personal trainer cert and go work at gold's or something
>>52430406
gb2 /wizardchan/
>>52430420
falling for jailbait if you must know.
>THAT felony
>>52430426
I thought I was already there.
How hard is it to get a CCNA
>>52430422
no gold's near me unfortunately
>>52430401
I look at this as the part the movies usually fast-forward through as the "training montage".
I want to save up enough money to afford to live 1. by myself 2. within walking distance of campus when I finally go back to school. Tired of living with retard-bros, and when I lived off campus it was too easy to say "fuck it" to the drive -> parking situation. Downside of going to school in a beautiful location are the rents, hence previously having to have 6 people in a 3 bedroom house and slowly going mad/ even when I had my own bedroom had to share kitchen and shit with retards.
IDK, just can't afford to fuck this one up. I think I need to stick around at least a year and a half for maximum "reliable dude" points, I have too many 4-6 month jobs on my resume already which I feel is kind of a red flag (correctly so) for employers.
aaaaaaagh but theres a cute girl at work I just need to ignore her. BAD PENIS
>>52430398
>nobody wants someone who hasn't gone to college
>>52430443
did the jailbait at least fall for you? or was it, uhh.....
less... than.... uh.... con... sen..........sh.....
>>52430443
How did you get caught?
Was it a real girl or did you get caught with pictures?
>>52430504
It's true though
>>52430532
are /pol/tards capable of not forcing their shit into every single thread
>>52430540
It's 2016, baby. People are waking up from Obama's dreamland and smelling the fire.
>>52430555
stop memeing for one second
it's pedophile story time>>52430443
(have a little respect)
>>52430555
Are you seriously blaming Obama for Germany's humanitarian and migration policy?
>>52430507
consentual, relationship, not a one night stand
>>52430516
she got mad when I found out about her whoreness and told her mom about what a terrible rapey person I was
>>52430566
see above
>>52430566
I personally like heroes that don't get caught.
>>52430566
>>52430596
also,
>15
>23 at the time
>>52430576
I was thinking Chicago and that thing in California from a while back. Being american european governments aren't my biggest concern, but would Chancellor Merkel have been so hasty to take in all those syrian refugees had America not elected a muslim?
>>52430640
>America not elected a muslim
>>52430640
>obama
>muslim
>>52430640
it is my belief that Herr Merkel is currently riding a certain non-pork eating penis and that is the reason for her turning such a nonchalant eye to what's going on in her country.
>tl'dr riding brownie dick
What is the general consensus on finding an internship?
Can I just pester professors or are there specific websites I should monitor over the Spring semester?
any keywords other then software engineer, intern, and information technology I should use?
I should add I would like a job either working in systems administration or software development.
I'm not too worried about experience, I've already interned via my 2 year schools co-op so I have a good reference for hands on desktop/laptop support.
I work over the school year only. I can't work my normal job over the summer so I'm starting to look now so I won't have to be homeless or work a 7.50 job.
is there like a guide that shows you what tech certifications are required to eventually become a systems admin? I program and network in my spare time but my job right now isn't even related to technology. Wtf do I do?
>>52424913
ti's 97% who you know 1% who you blow and 2% wishful thinking and hope
seriously if you want a job you've got to know the guy doing the hiring or one of his bosses, then you have to hassle them with how awesome you are at everything and beg to work for them
1/10 you get a job which is the best odds you're going to get
Choose where I go for me /g/
>>52430771
See if you can trim it down to one page. You mention freelancing so I assume that's graphic design, and I see related things on your resume, but if you're applying for a technology job they're not really looking for GD experience.
I personally don't like things like the Area of Expertise and Targeting sections, I feel like they're just a waste of space. Let the bullet points from your work experience speak for all that, and in a quicker, more concise manner.
Also don't be afraid to talk yourself up. Maybe instead of "Maintained client server.." say "Administered cleint server..."
Some of your points seem like fluff, maybe they can be cut to make it one page. Also the mini paragraphs for each work experience probably aren't needed, as I said earlier let the bullet points speak for themselves.
I get the feeling you were in the military, I was too. If you have a clearance, brag about it. Throw in some buzzwords for the jobs you're looking at, and remember that your resume doesn't have to be perfect. I cringed reading over mine what with the bullshit entry about Python and Puttign that Fort Huachuca is in New Mexico when it is actually in Arizona, but I still managed to bumble my way into a help desk job.
>>52431019
Pick the one whose website is the least laden with Javascript cancer :^)
>>52431097
>replying to a deleted post
>the city of me
I tried.
>>52429953
i trained myself and still always trying to learn more but im getting lazy cause i work on call
my first week was the first time i ever heard of selinux i was so green
>>52429038
>>52429063
whut
ya im 26 i think
>>52425098
Go to community college, get your AA in whatever field you choose, and get a job at the local coffee shop or student store or some shit. Since you're on /g/ I can only assume you want to do something related to technology, so consider computer science or something similar. It's not hard, it's just a grind. But if you like it then you won't mind.
But seriously, that's where you should start if you don't have too many big opportunities. CC is dirt cheap pretty much everywhere and it's basically cheating for easy credits if you plan on advancing to university. The small job working at/near the school will give you the chance to network. That's probably the best thing you can do for yourself at this point in your life.
Good luck, dude.
>>52430256
If he was a Private Contractor, he probably already has a clerance..
I'm in a CC doing a shitty 2 year computer technology degree that is going to take me 3 and a half years to complete. I have no job experience and I can hardly remember the networking and programming that I've done over the years due to my lack of interest and motivation (doing enough just to pass). Since high school I've only been interested in information to confirm my hatred for how the world works. I'm 23 now and my current situation is leeching off my wage slave mother to sustain myself. I want to do something with my life but I really dislike the process of getting hired and pretending to care about my potential job that perpetuates this culture of consumption and its' disregard for environment, biodiversity, and the well being of others. In essence, it feels as though nothing really matters. Admittedly though I did have a moment of enlightenment recently when I thought I was in love with someone; I'm over it, and it now seems most females are in it for the financial security.
Does anyone here feel the same way about the human experience? I'm going to assume not because everyone seems to be engaged in the topic of this board. I would have asked /adv/ but it seems I would get a more mature and intellectual response here. Also, if you do happen to think this way, what motivates you in life or what drives you to learn?
