>have several terrible experiences with "high end" monitors
>end up just going for a U2515H because it's considered reliable
>get this
Are you fucking kidding me
How is this remotely deemed acceptable
Saw this image posted ages ago, this is a bait thread and OP is a cuckold
/Sage/
>falling for the IPS meme
>>52416685
just give up, buy a $90 tn panel and wait for oleds to become affordable.
>>52416685
haha, my $50, 2nd Hand iiyama looks better than this.
>>52416816
>wait for oleds to become affordable
so 5-6 years?
Oh wow, none of my 3 E2414Hs have that problem.
>>52416853
something like that or less.
I want a IPS because of dem colors and contrast but I keep hearing these horror stories about panel lottery and I'm becoming paranoid
>>52417985
It's not worth it.
And IPS has shit contrast.
>>52416685
Can confirm. I had a U2312HM once and it had similar levels of IPS glow and some other problems.
Returned it and stuck with my old samsung syncmaster P2450. It's a shitty TN panel, but at least it's fast (muh vidya) and decently usable.
I'd love to have a 30" 4K OLED screen on my desk though, if it didn't have burn in problems and shit. Guess I'll have to wait another 5-10 years for them to become decent and affordable.
>>52416685
Bought the exact same, no issues.
Even there was an issue, can't you just return it and get a new one?
>>52416685
>tfw my U2414H is perfect
>tfw I went through five of them to get this one
I'd actually like a FreeSync monitor, but fuck doing the RMA dance again. Amazon would probably ban me.
>>52416685
>Dell
I really want a new monitor and after like 7years with a TN I wont go back to it. So its IPS only, I also want that g-sync and 120+hz.
Its sad that there are currently only 2 monitor out with those specifications and both suffer from insane blb, dead pixel and horrible quality in general.
There is also only one new ips, gsync, 120+hz monitor coming out this year and its going to be 1200€, I just hope it will be better than the acer/asus ones.
At this point Iam very desperate and willing to schill out 1200€ for a 27" monitor.
Inb4 w8 for oled, my current monitor is 8years old and I sure wont use it for another 5-6years.
>>52416685
i have a u2414 with some pretty serious bleed
but i just got a u2715h with absolutely no bleed
is this just an age thing?
>>52418277
Nope I have some bleed on my U2715H
You gotta be lucky with Dell monitors
>>52416834
>second hand
Cheapskate
>>52416685
>not getting a VA monitor if you want nice blacks and contrast
spotted the retard
>>52416698
>/sage/
That board does not exist. This is not reddit.
>>52419422
>Cheapskate
I'm not the one with buyers regret.
I really hate IPS but everything else is worse.
I'm about ready to give up and buy the UP3017Q, but being an early adopter of OLED monitors seems like an unnecessary risk given the price.
Where did it all go wrong?
I fucking need a new monitor with these specs:
>IPS
>1080p
>24inch
>has no input lag and good response time so i can play a few games
any tips?
>>52419558
Lagless IPS doesn't exist and absurdly low response time is a pointless meme anyway.
>>52419591
Is gaming possible on IPS monitors? i like to play fast racing games and japanese bullet hells.
>>52419476
Read the FAQ before posting
>>52418198
Just buy a Vive and use that instead.
>>52419603
Yeah as long as you aren't some obsessed CS:GO player, you're pretty much always fine.
>>52419603
I play a bit of grid 2 / gta 5 races on my dell u2415.
I have to admit, if I'm looking for ghosting issues then I can find them.
Its not really noticeable but if you look for it then fast moving stuff on the edges of the screen does have a little bit of ghosting, think of the top part of streetlights for example. But for the most part its not noticeable.
Also I do play some shooters on the monitor like cs:go and I cant really notice anything there.
>>52416816
>2016
>suggesting a TN
no
Why are OLED monitors not used yet when shit like TVs and phones already use OLED panels?
>>52416685
>not purchasing superior VA panels
>>52420665
This
>>52420685
pls links good va panels with g-sync, 120hz and 27-28".
spoiler: there are none
>>52420665
>>52419461
You guys do realise VA panels also suffer from backlight glow as well.
WHY ARE MONITORS STILL THIS FUCKING UNRELIABLE AND SHIT IN 2016?
IM WILLING TO PAY $1000 BUT ONLY IF I GET AT LEAST 9/10 QUALITY
FUCKING HELL
>>52420740
>muh gaymening
>muh ips tearing meme
>>52420764
gsync/freesync is not a meme, it actually works.
same thing with 60+hz, its a straight up fact.
do you feel offended or anything? just chill man.
there are no va panels for my needs therefore your suggestion is pointless.
>>52419603
Gaming is perfectly fine on most IPS monitors. Logicalincrements has a monitor guide that lists response time and input lag, use that
>>52420777
Let me know of all the VA panels with screen tearing m8
While youre at it go back to /v/ faggot
>>52419461
>VA
Enjoy your disgusting horizontal shift.
>>52416685
>buys cheap IPS
>complains about IPS glow
>>52419558
The Dell U2414H is what you want. It has incredibly good response times for an IPS display.
>>52420827
Do you position yourself more than 45° from your monitor when using a computer? Alternatively are you using some 60in VA?
>>52420818
I think you dont seem to understand how screen tearing works.
Please dont post anymore and leave this thread alone.
Please!
>>52420640
Because they wear out too quickly
On phones it doesn't matter because phones are replaced every year or two, but a monitor needs to last longer than that
>>52420853
the irony. Keep buying into tech you dont even know of how it works.
>>52420848
Yes. I work out at my PC.
What qualities make a high end monitor?
Thinner the TFT, more changes of it not being completely flat and so it bends too close to the backlight. This is the primary reason for backlight bleed. TFT's have become thinner all the time. The type of backlight (CCFL or LED, backlit or edgelit) has very little to do with it.
Secondary reason is incorrectly designed housing, which introduces uneven or too much of a pressure on the TFT or the whole panel construction.
I currently have NEC lcd2490wuxi, PA301, PA322UHD and Eizo CG303W, CX271, CX240 and CG247. All of them have backlight bleed, the CX271 very much.
>>52420864
I don't know about you, but I doubt many people change their 1K$+ TV every couple years either and OLED TVs are becoming a reality pretty fast.
>>52420740
Spoiler: learn to google
https://pcmonitors.info/acer/acer-z35-with-curved-200hz-g-sync-va-panel/
>>52420887
>ultrawide curved
No thanks
>>52420887
thanks for the suggestion but ultra-wide IS a meme and that monitor is the only of its kind.
If you play at 60Hz at most, does IPS really lose to TN in gaming applications? Like, what's the difference? I know it's easier/cheaper to make 120+ Hz panel with TN, but if the IPS panel says the response time is 5ms or less, wouldn't that be enough for gaming at 60Hz?
I ask because I want to get a new monitor and I play fast competitive games, but capped at 60Hz. It's full of cheapish <150€ IPS panels that claim response times of 5ms or less.
>>52416685
>2017
>still having non-virtual monitors
>mfw I've been using a 42" 1080p HDTV as my monitor since 2010
>no ghosting in games
>good for movies
>no complaints so far
why are TVs considered bad monitors again?
>>52421058
input lag
>>52421058
Input lag. The fact that you don't notice it doesn't mean it isn't there, anon. It just means you're not a pro gamer playing at an elite level.
>>52420842
Thanks man.
>>52420517
>2016
>suggesting playing the lottery with an IPS panel and having to send back 5 monitors
no
>>52421080
...or even a mediocre player at scrub level.
I hope this guy >>52421058
is just trolling it up.
Am I really going to have to put up with this old 1680x1050 piece of shit for another 6-7 years until OLED monitors are finally the new standard? Is there seriously not a single good option on the market right now?
>>52421165
there is not.
situation atm is really shitty, you are not the only with this problem.
>>52421185
Well, when is it going to get better?
>people thinking there won't be a panel lottery with OLED monitors
kek
>>52421318
No, OLED doesnt and cannot have problem with backlight bleeding.
>>52421318
How could there be a lottery with OLEDs?
>>52421100
>>52421080
true, I don't play any hardcore gaymes and I'm not a hardcore gaymer
>>52421334
>implying it doesn't have its own issues
>>52417985
all panels are panel lottery.
panels are fuckspensive to make and shit can go bad. enjoy
>>52421340
Time before the colors start going tinted/muddy and you constantly have to adjust with software. Also, time before inevitable burn-in.
>>52421461
Lottery implies that there are good and bad ones
>>52421377
OLEDs can look like a runny, smeary mess with solid colors, too.
>>52421477
Some OLEDs will take years before they start tinting, some will go south in a few months to a year.
>>52421392
This. Unless you're spending multiple thousands of dollars, you WILL have to go through 5-6 RMAs with ANY monitor, be it TN, IPS, OLED or whatever the fuck else.
>>52421496
Well, most monitors come with a warranty that lasts longer than a few months.
>>52418198
From what you've written, i'm sure you're referring to the PG279Q and XB271HU monitors. If you're desperate for one, i'd run for the Acer XB271HU, simply because their QC is quite better than ASUS. I'm getting my second Acer monitor in tomorrow b/c the first one had a dead pixel in the corner, but didn't suffer from any BLB or noticeable IPS glow.
The $1200 monitor you're referring to is the ViewSonic one, correct? I'm not too sure how it'd going to turn out in terms of quality, but $1200 is pretty damn steep when the competition is $400 cheaper. Plus, they describe the panel as being "SuperClear IPS-type" which sounds like it's just gonna be the same AU Optronics panel their competition uses.
>>52421496
I don't think this should happen unless someone is producing the same panel model in multiple factories
>>52421577
Every single 144hz/165hz 1440p IPS memesync monitor is using that AUO panel. Eizo's releasing their own with the damn thing too.
>>52421558
warranties usually don't cover goods that can be consumed like batteries.
tint is normal wear.
>>52421646
wait...
even eizo is going to use the same shitty panel that acer/asus is currently using?
>>52421653
Rapid degradation is not normal wear unless you're seriously abusing the monitor.
Depending on the manufacturer I'm sure you could bully support into dealing with it.
>>52421577
yeah I was referring to the viewsonic one.
well, even its going to be same panel I atleast hope they will have their qa on point for that amount of money. I dont need to tell you that Iam sure you know about the quality issues with those things.
>>52421709
protip: everyone is using the same garbage panels with zero quality control
only monitors that cost a few thousand usually get some basic quality checks
>>52421709
Yep.
https://twitter.com/TFTCentral/status/687230594535813120
>>52420740
>buying nvidia
top fucking kek
>>52421765
that would do the job for me.
I sure dont want to rma 5-6x monitor because of retarded panel lottery.
>>52421796
as a current owner of he fg2421, this makes me really sad. i expected more from eizo.
>>52421802
5-6x isn't even enough. Your chances of getting an acceptable monitor are less than 5%.
My U2414H doesn't have very noticeable IPS glow, maybe a little bit on the lower right corner, but it goes away when I back away from the monitor.
What bother me more is somewhat noticeable darker areas when viewing solid colors. The middle and to an extent the right portion of the screen is slightly brighter than the rest of it. Again, it's only noticeable when looking at solid colors, but it's still annoying knowing it's there. It also has tiny, dark areas (1/4 inch) on the bottom corners of the screen. These issues are illustrated in pic related.
>>52422073
that's normal
cry more
>>52416698
>announcing your sage
please leave
>>52422073
>U2414H
I think im going to buy that monitor, do you do any gaming on it?
>>52421801
whats wrong with wanting the best performance possible
>>52422974
picking nvidia
>>52419476
faggot
>>52422951
get the U2415
>>52423472
Nah its a 16:10 monitor.
I dont want black bars while gaming, and stretched image when i plug in my PS4.
>>52422073
The U2415 has that issue as well, yet it's worse than what you've described and had a small dead sub-pixel. Had to return it after I noticed that.
It was my first and last ever Dell monitor, terrible quality control.
Got a BenQ BL2411PT and never looked back.
>>52423570
That looks like paper that is about to start burning
>>52423506
>black bars while gaming
I wish this meme would die so manufacturers could stop getting away with 16:9 bullshit.
>>52423610
Its not the manufacturers fault, its the lazy game devs who only optimaze their games for 16:9.
Some games have amazing 16:10 support like all Valve games, but many other just have those fucking ugly black bars on the top and bottom.
>>52423610
16:9 won, anon. Get over it.
>>52419476
fucking newfags
>>52423570
I don't have those dark spots in the upper corners. My dark spots are very small and in the very corners, but still somewhat annoying.
At least there's absolutely no backlight bleeding and the screen is overall quite uniform compared to cheaper TN panels and most TVs.
I bought a asus rog swift pg279q, Does asus dont do Quality controll?
That thing had backlight bleeding like fucking crazy... I want to get a new monitor but I dont want too go through the rma shit again... So what companie actualy checks the products they sell
>>52424309
>sub $1000
>quality control
>>52424409
it costs more then a $1000 where I live
>>52424450
It costs less than $700 in the US.
>>52424533
I wish I lived in the fucking Us sometimes
>>52419476
novel homosexuals
>>52416685
quality control on Dell monitors seems to be pretty much non-existant yeah
t. owner of 2 Dell U2414H (one is fine but the other one has some ips glow)
>>52425049
why don't you rma the glow one?
>>52425100
i'm not usually a lazy person, but since it's the secondary monitor i hardly ever notice it
would've rma:d the fuck out of my first monitor if it had the same problem
>>52425241
typical cuck behavior
>I would have ...
>just this once i swear.
pic related my 15 inch retina macbook pro, looks much worse on the picture for some reason tbqh
>>52419515
Yeah I'd really just wait. Some guy at a tv store told me that the boot (!) logo on their lg oled had burned in.. I can imagine the early dell monitors having similar issues.
You'll probably save at least 2 grand if you at least wait one year m8
