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>go to community college for a year and finish your basics.
>then transfer to a decent university and major in information systems and minor in business.
>while in school you should teach yourself programming languages that are useful.
>also while in school you should work towards getting certs.
>during your first semester as a junior you should bother your internship recruiting officer 24/7 until you get an internship you are satisfied with.
>once you graduate you will have the dream resume and jobs will flow continuously.
Also dubs.
>>52388955
Skip the first step.
Checked.
Confirmed best career path.
Alternatively you could just get a job while doing your degree, like I did, so when you graduate you also have industry experience.
>>52389003
OP here. I interned 2 months and then they ended up hiring me full time. So yah I agree.
>>52389003
That's what the internship is for.
>>52388955
Post alternative for east Europe.
Keep in mind, we have free Universities that are top level in some fields including mathematics and so on.
But I cant get in CS coz I need at least 5/6 score on my math test back in highschool ( and I had 4), 8 years later I am way way better but I cant prove it, and there is no legal way to overcome this law.
How to make it to the bizz ?
>>52388955
Or you could just not be a wage slave
>>52388955
>Find a flaw.
You'll burn out hard from overworking yourself and drop out before you're done.
>>52389018
>>52389050
So why do the minor in business step at all then? Why do certs?
Also
>internship
Not quite the same as studying AND working full time though.
>>52388999
checked your check
>>52389087
>he thinks interning 20 hours a week doing sysadmin and taking 13 credit hours is "too much"
Haha. Lazy faggot.
>>52388955
>supporting business
>supporting capitalism
>not majoring in the arts and sciences
Capitalist widget engineer detected.
>>52389098
Because most of the time it's only 1-2 more classes extra from what you're already taking for IS so why not.
>>52389123
>sysadmin
>dream resume
>only spending 13 hours a week on course work
>getting good grades
>>52389163
>13 credit hours
Are you NEET? Do you know what credit hours are you retard?
>>>/r9k/ lazy ass cuck
>>52388955
Your odds of getting into a reputable university as a transfer student are usually dramatically lower than applying out of HS. This is because transfer students essentially take the place of dropouts.
>>52389152
>Because most of the time it's only 1-2 more classes extra from what you're already taking for IS so why not.
Why not minor in something interesting and relevant instead?
>>52389163
he said credit hours
also having a degree + certs + programming languages + experience is the dream
>>52389189
>only working 33 hours a week
>calling other people lazy
>>52389207
Like what? I cannot think of anything more relevant to technology than a business degree.
>>52389231
certs are a meme unless you aim for sysadmin-tier jobs
>>52389082
Mom won't let you stay home forever, anon
>>52389100
Holy shit
>>52389252
>Like what?
Well, I minored in electronics.
>I cannot think of anything more relevant to technology than a business degree.
I hope you are joking anon.
>>52389257
She will and when she dies, her life insurance will keep me going.
>>52388955
I thought certs were for people without college experience?
>>52389282
>electronics
naw. if you are going for a managerial position then a minor in business is damn str8
>>52389311
They are.
If you pay for certs yourself = you don't have a degree and need some way to get some leverage
Otherwise, if you have a degree, the rule of thumb is to only do certs when your employer pays for them + gives you a bonus/pay raise for completing them
>>52389311
not necessarily. although they are a good idea if you have no degree
>>52389192
Ok, kid.
https://www.smc.edu/StudentServices/TransferServices/Documents/Transfer_Statistics/2014-2015/2014_TOTAL_transfers_to_uc.pdf
>>52389320
>if you are going for a managerial position then a minor in business is damn str8
You're not going to get hired straight out of college for a managerial position anon, let me just shatter that illusion of yours straight away. And after X years of working in the industry, nobody gives a fuck about your education anymore either.
I work in a company with around 250 employees, where 70 of them are developers. The CTO doesn't even have a college degree at all, and none of the team leads or project managers have any business education. The only people who do are HR and the guys in sales.
>>52388955
Or you can
>not be a total idiot in high school
>get a full ride to MIT or Stanford
>get a 200K job at Facebook/Google right out of college with no debt
I'm doing this, but out of order. Got my bachelors. Don't like my current job. Learning programming languages now. My first community college class on network security starts in an hour.
>>52389426
If you're brown.
>>52389100
Wew lad
>>52389418
A lot of people fall into the
>math major
>300k starting
>any job i want
group in terms of superiority complexes. They think they will never work shit jobs once they do what mommy and daddy tells them.
You are wasting your time speaking the truth to them, friend.
>>52388955
take that back faggot
>>52389418
i never said you would get a managerial position straight out of college tho
>>52389462
Nope. East Asian here. You should stop using affirmative action to justify your own inadequacy.
>>52389512
I blame the "you can do anything you want" meme our generation have grown up with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6vTI5g198E
>Business
Meme degree.
HURRRR DURRR IMMA GET RICH BY STUDYING BUSINESS THEN <insert fortune 500 company> WILL MAKE ME CEO OUT OF UNIVERSITY
>>52389426
>not be a total idiot
>full ride to MIT
They have a 7% acceptance rate m8, not being a total idiot isn't nearly enough.
>>52389551
Then why would a business degree even matter? After your first position, the only thing that matters when you apply for other positions is what you did in your first position, what responsibilities you had and how well you did your job.
>>52389596
because its literally only one more class extra when majoring in IS. why the fuck would you not?
>>52389592
Have you experienced the American education system? Not being a total idiot will pretty much put you in the top 1% of your class.
>people think business minor is bad
find a better alternative for IS majors
>>52389617
why the fuck would you waste your time and money getting a minor when no one will fucking care about it?
Don't take courses on programming languages.
Take courses that teach programming and figure out how to apply that using a language.
It is a way to describe your world/problem it is meant to be easy.
>>52389163
>>52389123
the point he is making that 13 unit hours does not account for homework.
You are technically supposed to put in 2 hours for every 1 unit.
>>52389617
>>52389603
If you did IS, you dun goof'd anyway and a business minor aint gonna help you get back on track, sonny.
>>52389648
>CS codemonkey dweebs actually believe this
>>52389610
Are you saying there is 100 people in american classes?
>>52389674
There were 870 people in my graduating senior class at high school.
>>52389673
>being this jelly
If have former classmates that do anything from netadmin, sysadmin, software engineering, web dev, R&D, network security & pen testing, IT consulting, system architects, , product managers, QA and testing, hardware engineering etc. I'm working as an embedded software developer myself, So yeah, that's what I actually believe.
>>52389735
>he's an actual codemonkey
>>52388955
>>52388999
>>52389100
Checked
Also
>not being engineer master race
>>52389756
Well, yeah.
At least I'm not still in college considering to pad my shitty degree with certs and business classes because the degree itself isn't sufficient in order to get a job...
>>52389756
>He thinks writing code is a bad job
>He probably thinks being an incompetent manager who always fails because he doesn't have a base of experience in the trenches is a good thing
>He doesn't realise that in addition to being far more fun a good programmer earns more than a shit manager
>>52389794
im not even OP but i think it's funny a codemonkey is trying to chime in when the big boys are trying to talk here
>>52389815
>Worker makes more than the boss of worker
What?
>>52389821
>a bunch college students discussing how to land a job after college
>"big boys"
>>52389794
>At least I'm not still in college considering to pad my shitty degree with certs and business classes because the degree itself isn't sufficient in order to get a job...
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>>52388998
x100 agreed
>>52389850
>he thinks im in college
im department manager of our companies dev team
i spend my day telling autistic dweeb codemonkeys what to do and cucking them 24/7 while i sit in my office and attend "important" meetings every week.
>>52389074
Try studying those meme CS fields like software engineering, information technologies, anything remotely pc related.
If that still fails, study to EE/Mechatronics/anything electronics related.
If I was hiring, I wouldn't care for diploma if I were developing apps or some basic shit like that.
I think your github and CV matters more than it.
>>52389926
>lying on the internet
OK kid
If you really were employed, you would know that what I said in >>52389596 and >>52389418 are true and that padding your shitty IS degree with business classes isn't going to help anything.
Anyway,
>non-ironically posting "look at me my job is so much better than yours I'm so awesome fuck yeah wooo i'm the best" on an anonymous image board for taiwanese tapestry
>>52389610
I think you forgot about the fact that more than 1% of the students are Asians.
>>52389949
>I think your github and CV matters more than it.
If college degrees are meaningless why is it a requirement for most jobs?
>>52389983
im not the one who said either of those things you quoted but ok
>>52389987
>thinking race is a valid excuse for your inferior intelligence
>>52390020
What are you talking about? I didn't quote anything.
>>52390036
This newfag doesn't know what quoting is.
>>52390093
Did you even read my post? I referred to my own two posts. Are you mistaking my sarcastic green text summary of your post as quoting you?
