The "pascal" chips shown on the Drive PX 2 module are in fact normal Maxwell GM204. So Nvidia lied again. Looks like they still have problems with Pascal and TSMC's 16FF+ process. AMD in contrast already showed their next gen Polaris GPU based on Glofo's 14LPP back in December running Star Wars Battlefront.
more info: semiaccurate.com/2016/01/11/nvidia-pascal-over-a-year-ahead-of-1416nm-competition/
Jen-Hsun Huang says that this are Pascal GPUs: https://youtu.be/Sdvuhbd1DG8?t=2m30s
pictures of the Drive PX ": www.flickr.com/photos/nvidia/24142175011/
post yfw wood screws are real and nvidia actually used them
>>52385592
>>52385653
>>52385483
>OP think GP100 is for 2016 Q1
In fact, Nvidia don't give a fuck about AMD Polaris because they have no competition.
>>52385483
Nvidia is slow on process updates, thats normal.
Violating SEC rules however? Hahahahahaha
What'll be interesting is when the differences between TSMC and Samsung/Gloflo's process pop up.
>>52385737
>shilling this hard
>>52385483
What am I supposed to be seeing here?
>>52385788
>that pic
what the fuck am I looking at?
>>52385817
porn
>nvidia
So they lied to all of their investors?
Isn't this shit illegal?
>>52385753
>TSMC and Samsung/Gloflo's process pop up.
Seems like everyone is a damn expert on silicon since applel and their 6s
>>52385835
Man I miss L O S T and TDK verticals.
>>52385790
At CES Nvidia displayed what they claimed was a carputer card using 2 new Tegra SoCs with Pascal based GPUs. They touted its awesome performance, and its great perf/watt.
Problem is that it doesn't exist. That card in the OP is a non functional mock up that is using two laptop GPUs. It is made to look like real hardware, but its yet another fake from Nvidia to drum up hype.
>>52385753
No vendor is producing the same design across both foundries. There is no direct way to compare their given characteristics as a consumer.
>>52385753
>Samsung/Gloflo's
I always say "glow flow" at work too, and wonder where that second L comes from
>>52385835
>Is lying to investors illegal?
Of course not, unless that investor is Uncle Sam.
>>52385737
Where do you read GP100 and Q1 2016 in the OP?
I would also assume that Nvidia would use two GP104 on the drive px 2 based on the 8 TFLOPS for the whole system. I'm also quite sure that there will be no pascal based consumer cards before Q3 2016.
>>52385790
If you compare the two gpus on the drive px 2 with the gpu on the GTX 980 PCB you will see that they are the same (apart from the imprint). Also read the article from semiaccurate.
>>52385788
>In fact they have no competition.
>shilling this hard
>>52385917
>>Problem is that it doesn't exist. That card in the OP is a non functional mock up that is using two laptop GPUs. It is made to look like real hardware, but its yet another fake from Nvidia to drum up hype.
but did they have actual working model show the performance ?
>>52385928
>posting monthly sales as if they mean anything
Nvidia released an entire new product stack during that period, whilst AMD released nothing.
>hurr why r nvidia sell mor?
>>52385948
If they had even a single working prototype they wouldn't have had to go out of their way to produce a fake.
>>52385948
no they just showed how much they think the new hardware will be able to do and the demos they were showing weren't even real time
>>52385957
>August 20, 2015
>AMD's Radeon market share continues to collapse, now resides at a troubling 18 percent
http://www.techspot.com/news/61832-amd-market-share-continues-collapse.html
Nobody like the 3xx inb4 390/290
>>52386070
AMD clearly didn't expect TSMC's slip on 16nm to be as bad as it was and just punted on the R9 3xx gen with the exception of "hey, we can do HBM!".
They seem to have their shit together better than Nvidia at least as of CES 2016, where working Polaris cards were supposedly shown behind closed doors to a few select journalists.
Both companies really need to figure out what they'll to in 2017-2020, when they're still stuck on 14/16nm nodes and they already hit thermal/power budget with Pascal and Polaris. :/
>>52386395
AMD had running demos of a new 14nm GPU out in the open, and even let press examine the dies. Read the news.
>>52386469
I just heard that the Enthusiast level Polaris was behind closed doors.
Maybe mid-tier GPUs that nobody really cares about were the ones out in the open.
You got a better source?
>>52386070
Except Mercury Research explicitly tracks sale share. Not the total number of AMD GPU's vs Nvidia GPU's. All the graph shows are slowing sales of the current models.
>>52386543
The low end shitter that's meant to be at $120~ was shown openly running Battlefront faster than a 950 while using half the power.
>>52385483
A better comparison.
>>52386631
1080p60 hasn't interested me in like the last 6 years.
This should be the year of competent single-GPU 2160p60 and CF/SLI 2160p120 with variable sync.
>>52385483
>>52386665
what are we supposed to take from this other than the fact that its not HBM?
I think even mid-tier Polaris is still gonna be stuck on GDDR5.
Am I supposed to know Nvidia serial numbers off hand, or it there some reason this couldn't just be their GP104/GTX 1060 or whatever?
>>52386713
>1503A1
Produced in week 3 of 2015 by TSMC.
It's also supposed to be on their 16nm FinFet process.
TSMC, at that date, had absolutely NO chance in producing a working chip with that manufacturing process, much less one the size of Pascal.
>>52386713
Pull your head out of your ass.
>>52386668
>1080p60
>p
Nigger progressive scan vs interlaced makes no sense with computer monitors. What the fuck are you doing.
>>52386713
It's a chip from January 2015.
So unless nVidia had working Pascal silicon a fucking year ago, these aren't Pascal chips.
we're posting old memes now?
>>52386824
>>52386775
gotcha
>>52386799
nice dubs, but fuck off please
Is there a slimier company than nVidia?
>>52386970
Sorry, should've specified.
Is there a slimier tech company than nVidia?
>>52386895
>>52386970
Intel
Heheheheheheh oh you guys hahahaha you guys at AMD are so shitty come on, relax, take your thong off and jump into the pool
>>52386810
it's a shitty notation since it really only applies to ATSC broadcasts or maybe standard HDMI signal modes, but it's easier to type and read than Full HD@60Hz, UHD@60Hz or whatever.
>>52386985
>slimier tech company than nVidia?
> old Microsoft
> even older IBM
> Apple - about par
> Google - selling your life to the gov't and highest corporate bidders
> Facebook - ditto, but at least 2x as Jewish
even AMD has had their fair share of slimy shit in the past.
the whole sector's pretty fucking dirty.
>>52386895
Creative
>>52386469
nvidia showed off a functional pascal die all the way back in the summer, showed a live demo behind closed doors in q3 '15 and in the last two weeks sampled GP104 with gddr5x to reviewers. NDA expires soon.
>>52387203
so does this imply a real Q1/Q2 launch, or what?
also, will this just be a cooler and cheaper 980Ti equivalent?
don't feel like waiting till Q4 for real Pascal if newest CurryNiggerTech "reporting" is accurate.
>>52387203
Are you that retarded?
>>52385483
>nVidia at CES present automatic car drive module
>they put two maxwell in the PCB instead of pascal
>OH MY GO NVIDIA LIE IT'S NOT PASCAL ITS OVER
http://www.nvidia.com/object/drive-automotive-technology.html
who the fuck care about ????
>>52386810
>Nigger progressive scan vs interlaced makes no sense with computer monitors
Yes it does, it's always progressive.
>>52387432
Well, you know, aside from it being illegal and all that, there's also their previous attempt at lying, which gave us Fermi with a fuckton of problems.
>>52387432
Why not just make it use the car's normal cooling system?
>>52387432
Because the fucking thing was SAID TO BE PASCAL FOR THE FUCKING INVESTORS BUT IT WAS MAXWELL
?!?!?!?!?!?
!?!??!?!?!
!?!??
DO YOU SEE
ISSUE HERE?
DO YOU?
>>52387432
thread/
>>52387568
>Why not just make it use the car's normal cooling system?
Are you crazy, do you know how hot are car radiator, over 200° and the AC will make condensation.
>>52387530
>which gave us Fermi with a fuckton of problems
Can you elaborate because right now the 290, 290x, 390 and 390x are hotter than fermi
>Nvidia is shit
>ATI is shit
>You will never be excited about video cards ever again due to the shitty atmosphere around them
Where do we go from here, boys?
>>52387753
maybe it's time to start using our graphics cards instead of just buying them
>Car is released with NVidia self drive technology
>Driver updates
>pile up on the m6
>>52387849
Nobody who buy expensive shit actually uses them, they just jerk off to them.
The cringe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W3Lf092ibA
>>52385483
>HYPEVIDIA in charge of physical layout verification and Design Rule Checking
>>52387111
checked
Why in the fuck do you need a "supercomputer" in a car. We're fine without this sort of power in self-driving cars.
>>52385483
>>52385926
>>52386665
>>52387432
dumb question:
how wasteful is it to use a proper GPU in applications like this?
it seems like all the transistors for special purpose units (ROPs/TMUs/tessellators/whatever) would be completely wasted.
wouldn't something that was just pure ALUs be better for this?
or is just Nvidia trying to force GeForces into a new segment?
>>52387753
I just upgraded from an archaic amd64x2/nvideo 8800gtx to an i5 6600k and a 390x.
let me tell you sonny jim the performance difference has got me pretty fucking excited.
>>52387741
>Can you elaborate because right now the 290, 290x, 390 and 390x are hotter than fermi
No, they aren't. GCN throttles at 95 degrees celsius, Fermi didn't, leading to temperatures exceeding the boiling point of water. Fermi also didn't perform very well and had a nasty habit of killing itself. In one case this literally caused a house fire.
>>52387313
early q2, GP104 performs roughly ~1.5x better than GM200 in most games while retaining maxwell's really good overclockability and consuming nearly half the power
>>52388004
thermi and GCN were both designed for GPGPU shit, and I really hope the AMD reverses that trend with Polaris.
Being able to do 1:2 DP:SP in hardware doesn't mean shit to me if it's gimped to like 1:16 or whatever by firmware/driver/fusing.
More transistors to ROPs, cooler ALU array pls.
>>52386836
>>52388115
>>52388101
>I really hope the AMD reverses that trend with Polaris.
Why? With DX12 games will be using GPGPU a lot more.
>AMD has fully functional Polaris chip for live demo
>Nvidia can't even do a mockup
Pascal confirmed delayed?
>>52387885
after an 8 year jump, I would hope you feel the difference.
POLARIS
O
L
A
R
I
S
>>52388004
>the power consumption of the 390x/290x is lower than the 480
>>52388264
Power consumption != temperature
Fermi runs hotter but pretty much every single modern card puts out more thermal energy, including the supposedly hyper efficient Maxwell.
>>52385835
Guess how many times they did it and how many times they got away
That's the tech industry for you
When will it stop?
>>52388205
because of The Way It's Meant to Be Gimped, most games are bottlenecked by ROP and tessellator throughput, not shader math or bandwidth.
The reason is that Nvidia ROPs do 2x4 pixel blocks while AMD does 4x4, so by flooding the scene with gorillions of 1-pix triangles, they can waste 94% of their competitor's capacity vs. only 88% of their own.
> thanks, HairWorks
>>52387880
There to build transformers
>>52386895
they're slimy patent trolls, but their cards work and they have good drivers.
>>52387880
To track people and to take over subject's car(s).
>>52388500
>they have good drivers.
Bwahahahahaha no.
>>52387883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSgz4knanJk
>>52385483
isnt the first link saying that those are indeed pascal chips ?
great thread op
>>52385847
Welcome to /g/
>>52387883
Just turn your car driving problem into crunching triangles problem.
>>52388715
You have terrible reading comprehension. English isn't your first language, is it?
but can it handle the OGULUS RIFT?!?!
>>52388523
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-Software-Crimson-Edition-16.1-Hotfix-Release-Notes.aspx
>wait 4 month for the fury x driver
>>52388680
JHH really is an insufferable faggot, don't believe his lies.
>>52385835
>So they lied to all of their investors?
>Isn't this shit illegal?
I don't know, is it?
>>52385483
so what? At least their cards use lower tdps and run cooler.
>>52387432
This
>>52389048
At least it didn't kill anything, like a laptop display.
inb4 the problems MSI afterburner is causing with crimson, afterburner is third party software that explicitly voids your warranty.
>>52389132
At least ALL my ''gameworks''
>>52389132
can they tell if GPU has been used with overclock program?
>>52386631
It was a notebook chip in fact.
>>52389228
No, they don't. Nvidia has their share of issues too.
>>52389267
Don't think so, it's an assumption in good faith.
>>52389310
Got *anything* to back that up or are you just pulling that out of your arse?
>>52389335
They said so during the presentation and it consumers 54W less than a 950, so naturally it's mobile
>>52387753
>750ti
>950
>380
>390
>980ti
Plenty of good cards for every price range, provided you're not a fucking retard married to a brand.
I'd be mad if I bought a 970 though, lol.
>>52389433
That is one hell of an assumption anon. Remind me how much the 750ti consumes again? How about the GT 620? HD 7750?
This is also ignoring the fact that the cards were frame limited.
What is the next electronics show where Nvidia and AMD might show, and when is it? I'm hungry for more information on the next generation of both GPU manufacturers
>>52389501
>the cards were frame limited.
[citation needed]
750ti is used as a mobile chip with the same clock as the desktop version and that's a 60W chip. More power than what the Polaris chip they showed uses.
>>52389547
pls respond
>>52385483
>Jew-Hsun Huang
>>52389716
>pinkelstein
elelelellelelelelellelelele
>>52387753
Just buy a new card every eight years, when the old one struggles to run future-gen games at the lowest possible resolution and graphical settings, rather than every six months to one year when your current one works fine.
Nvidia why u always lyingg stop fuckin lyingg
>>52389477
This.
Being brand loyal in 2015 is fucking moronic and will only hurt you.
>>52389618
>[citation needed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ZIcztgcNY
Along with the official slides and every tech site that reported it.
Also, your entire argument seems to be "It uses very little power so it must be a mobile chip!" which is some of the dumbest reasoning I've heard in a while.
>>52389801
Fortunately it's 2016, and me and ATI are engaged to be married.
>>52389830
>>52389830
>>52389830
HOLY FUCK ITS 2016
I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE
DMAN SON
>>52386985
Old MS, new MS if you count Botnet10, old IBM, Facebook with their constant psychological experimentation on users that's barely legal. Google steals your data, but at least they contribute to OSS and tell you what they're stealing.
ITT: AMDerps don't realize that prototypes are basically mockups for marketing and actually think that polaris is taped out and ready just because AMD told them so and they 'demoed' it with bullshots.
Again you're all retarded for comparing imaginary products that don't even exist yet.
>Nvidia demoes prototype for self driving cars
>Cars
Nvidia is finished and bankrupt foreve....
OH WAIT ITS NOT GRAPHICS CARDS WEW LAD
>>52391239
>Pascal hasn't been seen running once
My sides.
>amdrones trying to force a meme THIS hard
I suspect a March/April release.
>>52391292
>Implying Polaris has
>AMD doesn't Lie lol
>Bulldozer
kek
>>52385483
was this a product release or a trade show? Why would they show off the guts of unreleased hardware at a tradeshow?
all we normally get is heatsink shrouds on mockups in those big assemblies
>>52391338
Prototype for self driving car bullshit.
It's not a product for the market anytime soon. It's literally marketing bullshit which is what Prototype means. The end product will probably be nothing like what is demoed.
AMDerps just reaching for straws.
>NVIDIA IS FINISHED CARS ARE OVER
>>52391316
>lying
>usable 3.5GB
>woodscrews
>1.7%
>original housefire
>housefires last year with gaymen tablets
>>52391239
>Live demo for journalists
>Journalists got actual chips to hold and lock at
>Su says Polaris in stores before Back to School Season
>Nvidiots still pretend it's not happening
>>52391338
Maybe (what these AMDrones don't want to admit) Nvidia doesn't want to leak any of the future possible BTFOness of Pascal to AMD while secretly mass producing them and showing off Maxwell for (kek self driving car prototype this shit isn't even for market).
>Lol Pascal is ded lol
>At the 2015 Consumer Electronics Show, graphics chip designer NVIDIA (NASDAQ:NVDA) unveiled the first-generation of its Drive PX platform for automobiles, aimed at enabling advanced driver assistance features and, eventually, autonomous driving. The hardware was impressive, featuring two of the company's Tegra X1 SoCs, and more than 50 automakers, suppliers, developers, and research institutions have used the platform for autonomous-driving research and development.
Drive PX is a deep learning platform. Software is trained on a supercomputer by feeding it enormous amounts of data, and that software is then run on the Drive PX system within a car to identify objects such as other cars, pedestrians, and road signs.
The second-generation product, unimaginatively called Drive PX 2, was announced at the 2016 Consumer Electronics Show. Drive PX 2 is vastly more powerful than the first-generation product, with NVIDIA stating that the new platform has more than 10 times the computational horsepower than the original Drive PX. Drive PX 2 consists of two next-generation Tegra processors,
>Tegra
>Anything to do with Pascal
kek
>>52385483
That's the wrong PCB you retard. It was the MXM boards that they were using, not the fucking PCI-e dekstop card.
>>52391485
>actual chips to hold!
>before back to school season!
>AMD in charge of manufacturing
kek enjoy your $1500 GPUs that are rarer than Bigfoot
>>52391316
>Implying Polaris has
Except AMD showed it off to journalists behind closed doors last month, and a number of them have confirmed seeing it up close and in person. Even faggot Nvidia shill Ryan Shrout noted that he'd seen it.
>>52391525
>AMD in charge of manufacturing
They are not. Samsung is.
Now you Nvidiots will tell me that Samsung can't into manufacturing, right?
>>52391555
>Samshit in charge of anything
>Charlie Demerjian
>semiaccurate.com
>any year
This guy has been an AMD fanboy since the dawn of times.
>>52391555
>Samsung is
>Samsung in charge of anything
Can't wait for the 1000% RMAs due to defective process manufacturing.
>>52391281
It uses graphics chips for GPGPU
I should have bought AMD stock back when it was $1.7 a piece.
>>52391602
Good, we need somebody to balance out the legion of paid Nvidia shills.
>>52391491
>has two "Pascal" GPU's on it with Tegra CPU's
baka desu senpai
>>52391602
He gets on AMD's shit too; like when they pulled the marketing slide that compared memory quantity as if it was performance for the 390X vs 980.
Or that article where he called the exact performance of the 7970 vs 680 and had the 680 ontop.
>>52391643
>Prototype
I bet you think this shit is really pascal too amirite?
>>52391555
>Samsung
It's actually TSMC and Global Foundries, which licensed the process from Samsung.
AMD is expecting so much volume that they went with 2 fabs.
>>52391688
notice I put Pascal in quotes?
>>52391698
Bullshit, that was bad info that people assumed. AMD confirmed it's GloFlo for the entire line.
>>52391698
>AMD is expecting so much volume
Inaccurate. They're using two fabs because they're also fabing Zen. Don't be fooled into thinking they're expecting large volumes. Apparently the yields on 14nm are low as fuck unless your name is Intel.
>>52391768
>Apparently the yields on 14nm are low as fuck unless your name is Intel.
>i7 and i5 shortages still ongoing
Nope, not even for Intel. There's a reason why Broadlake was delayed until the launch of Skylake.
>>52391784
Skylake yields are much better. Broadwell is just a Chip that time forgot.
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/39569-intel-14nm-skylake-cpu-yields-reportedly-improving
14nm was a mistake.
>>52391813
my penis demands moar
>>52391555
The only thing Samsung fabricates well is cancer.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/samsung-signs-final-settlement-cancer-184247532.html
>>52391845
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/samsung-signs-final-settlement-cancer-184247532.html
>>52389667
Amds easter bbq
>>52391845
oh you got me i loled
>>52391624
buy it now before it goes to $5
>>52385788
Hi u/iwilllurkreddit, kindly fuck off. Furries aren't welcome on 4chan.
>>52385483
there are no linux drivers for my 2yr old ati card and trying to code OpenCl and OpenGl on windows with a shitty ati dev tool that havent been updated in 5 yrs is not going to happen.
Nvidia all the way, everyone saying something else is an unskilled pleb on windows or mac
>>52391865
>how to throw away your money before the benchmarks are released and AMD gets BTFO just like the past 10 FYs
>>52385835
Yes.
It's SEC fraud.
>Will they get away with it
Maybe, SEC won't do shit unless investors complain though.
>>52391891
This, anyone shitting on Nvidia's drivers because they aren't open source need some perspective because AMD's attitude to software and drivers is 'just make your own lol, ours will probably just fry your cards'
>>52391805
There are still shortages of select 14nm silicon that are best suited for the unlocked SKUs. I'm guessing that the acceptable yields are far greater, but either the performance consistencies have become tighter (yielding less stellar chips per batch) or the performance consistencies are lower than intended (causing a much more stringent performance goal and again reducing the number of acceptable chips per batch).
I'm going to go with yields being average, but the performance consistencies being too tight, leading to a much smaller number of unlocked-ready chips.
>>52391922
>Prototype of unreleased product
>Fraud
Yeah they're going to sue for loss of share value on an imaginary product that doesn't generate any revenue.
>>52391891
>there are no linux drivers for my 2yr old ati card
Bullshit. There are Linux drivers for literally every AMD card released in the past five years.
>>52391755
Which also means Samsung.
>AMD doesn't have to even have a relationship with Samsung for that, there are load sharing agreements between Samsung and GF for 14nm, so it stands to reason some of the AMD product will be fabbed by Samsung.
>>52391970
They said is was Pascal, implying that pascal is not only taped out but in production.
If it was not pascal, then that is securities fraud - as clearly then pascal is not ready for production.
All of this culminates in the fact that some investors may have made decisions based upon 'facts' presented by nvidia which were in fact falsehoods.
This isn't 'fraud' because a few neckbears won't get their GPUs early, it's fraud because they've lied to investors.
>>52391999
Ok then let me say it differently: There is no driver that doesnt crash the system the moment you install it.
Youve never tried it obv because if you did you wouldnt write any of this.
After 3 days of trying to make this shit run I stopped. I will never ever buy ati again.
>>52389856
I think it was here, but last year I remember an anon threatening to kill himself halfway through January. Somebody mentioned a release date and he said thought it was still December and realized he wasted a month of his life doing whatever.
>>52392110
>Securities fraud
Prototypes are not final products. Especially considering it's literally an unrelated product and a PROTOTYPE of a product that's literally not even in consideration of production.
Any conclusions you draw from your own deductions is not fucking fraud you delusional autistic cuntrag.
>>52391999
There are drivers, they just don't work lol. So yeah basically no drivers.
>>52392110
>Facts
>Deductions based upon conjecture and imagination
This is why you're unemployed.
>>52392192
>>52392161
10c has been placed into your account.
>>52392161
>literally not even in consideration of production.
Are you just pretending to be retarded?
>>52386668
Who cares if it interests you? It interests all the people looking to get into PC gaming that's are scared of the initial investment.
>>52392228
Again conclusions you draw from observations and deductions are not fraud. Just because some speculators get burned doesn't mean it's fraud. It's not a misleading and deceptive statement.
>muh internet lawyering while not actually educated in law
>>52392280
>Implying self driving cars are a thing in 2016
kek
>>52391612
Yeah you know how unreliable those 950 evo/pros are...
>>52392464
>flash memory vs semiconductors
>Same thing lol
nope
>>52392373
>Thinking self driving cars magically develop themselves
>Thinking you can develop self driving cars without hardware
just stop posting
Shit like this is why I hate Nvidia. When it comes to GPUs, I only use AMD
>>52392548
>Development prototype is the same as products ready for market
Go fuck yourself AMDshit
>>52392848
>Intend to sell development kits to car industry
>Pretend to have a prototype with Pascal chips working
>Turns out it's fake
>Turns out Pascal is nowhere near as ready as Nvidia promised
>>52393020
>Intend is the same as selling right now
>Prototypes are the final product: the meme
>It's fake (LOL PROTOTYPE MOCKUP HARDWARE ISN'T THE FINAL PRODUCT: RING THE NEWSPAPERS THE SKY IS BLUE)
>Turns out pascal is nowhere near as ready as Nvidia promised [citation needed] [conjecture and imagination aren't the same as facts]
>>52392548
>Thinking self driving cars magically develop themselves
What is machine learning for 800
>>52393077
>yfw machine learning becomes stronk enough that programming becomes a meme
>yfw /g/ becomes more unemployed than ever
>>52392547
>flash memory isn't semiconductor
>>52393140
>NAND is the same as a microprocessor
kek
>>52385835
You were great heath, but you'll always be 2nd best joker after mark hamill.
>>52393168
>transistors and diodes aren't made of silicon
wut m8?
>>52393071
>The DRIVE PX 2 development engine will be generally available in the fourth quarter of 2016. Availability to early access development partners will be in the second quarter.
They are promising working products by Q2 and they only have a crude mockup to show now. Clearly there is something wrong considering Pascal should already be in volume production if they want to beat Polaris to market.
>>52393276
>by Q2
>Development ENGINE
>Available to developers
>Same as hardware being available to the public for sale.
Pls go reddit
>>52385483
nvidiots on suicide watch
>>52393326
The development engine is the product, dipshit.
They don't have it. They don't have it because they don't have any Pascal chips. By Q2 AMD will already have Polaris in stores while Pascal is only available in limited numbers for whichever car makers are lucky enough to be Nvidia's "early access" partners.
Nvidia hasn't talked about consumer GPUs at CES because they won't have any before the second half of 2016. That's probably how bad it is.
I predicted this might happen.
I also predict that nvidia might be late to the HBM game if AMD is given priority treatment.
Oh no, not all of their pascal GPUs use HBM.
>What are different memory controllers
>>52393276
Do you even know what a development engine is? There's no hardware being promised it's just software for development purposes being promised.
Are all AMDumbs this retarded?
>>52393443
I don't think that's the primary issue.
>>52393465
Neither is your mom
>>52393432
>is the product
No it isn't, it's for devs to develop software for the product.
It doesn't even mention a devkit. It's literally software.
Please die.
>They won't have any before the second half of 2016
The last time the announced the Maxwell launch they literally released chips the next day. So if their last launch is anything to go by they like keeping stuff on the hush because of the strategic advantage and not actually playing catch up like AMDumb who have to hoot and holler 24/7 in case people forget they exist.
>>52393453
They are promising Volvo trial cars on the streets with actual customers driving them in 2016.
Do you think Volvo will let customers step into cars running on hardware that has only been available for testing since 2016?
>>52393524
>Trial cars
>Trial
>Do you think Volvo will let customers step into cars running on hardware that's only been available for testing since 2016?
No, but they'll sure let a bunch of retarded devs jump into it and get themselves killed in the name of making safer cars for their customers.
>>52393578
>Volvo will use the NVIDIA DRIVE PX 2 deep learning-based computing platform to power a fleet of 100 Volvo XC90 SUVs that will hit public roads next year, driven by actual customers as part of the the Swedish carmaker’s Drive Me autonomous-car pilot program.
>>52393465
Well how the hell could you look at an unlabeled die and call it a GM204 then?
It isn't labeled, it looks like a slightly different size (maybe, even if it was it doesn't matter).
I'm not trying to side with nvidia here as they are known liars, but to say that is a GM204 is just retarded.
>>52393608
>Pilot program
>i.e. people retarded enough to be guinea pigs for Volvo
>paid engineers
ok
Can someone explain the nvidia woodscrew meme to me again?
>>52385788
lewd
>>52394040
roughly six years ago JHH was waving around pic related at a presentation and claiming it was a functional Fermi card.
>>52393681
Well, the date sure does looks suspicious.
>>52391624
I bought six thousand shares. I'm going to lose all my money. kek
>One 6 pin pcie on Fermi
You wish nvidia
>>52394379
Standard 18 awg can transfer up to 5 amps each, 5 amps * 6 pin = 30 amps * 12v = 360w
>>52386665
I am a layman.
These look the same, is that the point?
>>52394379
There was an 8pin on the side
that didn't match up with any leads on the PCB
and two stickers were literally cut in half
they cut it with a hacksaw.
>>52394748
As a comparison, a release Fermi
>>52394172
>>52394379
>>52394748
yeah, that was hilariously bad.
"Pascal" Drive PX 2 could at least be a functional prototype, but their marketing would never allow them to say it wasn't Pascal at this point in time.
Is Polaris/Pascal the next 970 Pro/Dustbuster situation?
Most prototypes for show at conferences are faked, and then the real deal is finished up in time for release, this isn't "faking" they just need some issues to work out, and show a similar product to investors and nerds.
>>52394665
The one on the left is supposed to be a new pascal card while it is identical to a maxwell 980m
nvidias trying to pull the wool over everyones eyes again aka woodscrews 2.0
>>52387858
>car sporadically bursts into flames
JUST LIKE THE MEME HAHAHAHAHA
>>52388431
This is cool.
>>52388515
This is realistic.
>>52389081
>lower tdps and run cooler.
>literally saying the same thing twice
nvidia shills are dumb confirmed
>>52389477
I have a 970, unfortunately.
And too bad Nvidia support is absolutely non-existent for any OSes I use.
>>52394439
you are forgetting that the current goes both ways... 3 ground wires 3 +12v ones.
Even still, thats 180 watts + whatever wattage the pcie slot has.
6 pin has some much smaller standards of 75 watts.
>>52386775
i was just about to post that
>the wood screws are real!
So when can we expect Pascal to be available?
>>52396201
8 pins are 150w, 6 pins are 75w, pcie slot is 75w
>>52396716
Next year.
>>52387858
Underrated post
>>52396201
So modern 6 pin + 2 pin have 5 ground?
Wonder how that works because the corsair psus allows up to 40 amps.
>>52396835
Stop posting
>>52385833
> niggers
>>52388304
actually, you dumb fuck, power-draw directly translates to temperature. holy shit. i know you kids are underaged, but fuck.
I wondered why I didn't see HBM on the GPU. Now I know why.
>>52391624
I did. when it was $1.6
>>52397609
1°C/10W low temperature bait
>>52391467
you forgot about that driver deleting the EDID EEPROM of notebook panels rendering them useless
>>52397239
>Wonder how that works because the corsair psus allows up to 40 amps.
The PCIe spec allows for only 150W over PCIe 8 pin though. Which is ridiculously small. the G18 cables most quality PSUs use can handle more than twice as much without being in danger to get to hot.
