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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
New 2016 ThinkPads announced:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9889/lenovo-refreshes-thinkpad-lineup-at-ces
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/big-ram-laptops-are-abundant-as-lenovo-does-its-skylake-refresh/
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
I might have to get an XPS 15 since I can't find anything else even close to what I want in a new laptop.
The X260 is almost perfect, but it's gimped by single-channel RAM (and all the other modern X-series compromises).
Maybe I should just keep using my Latitude E6510 and wait to upgrade until laptops catch up with what I want from them.
post your dankpads and os info and etc... standard shit, except ill not go first.
>>52379053
I'm not that anon you responded to but my battery has been recalled. Placed an order for a new one. Holy shit if they actually will send me a new one for free.
questions,
How do you check BIOS for computrace? Is it apparent from the main tab, or just the security tab? A seller told me they couldn't provide a picture because they had already packed it up but BIOS was "out to factory settings and password reset".
Is it relatively easy to swap in some new RAM, battery or SSD on the recommended T series models? My DIY experience doesn't extend beyond building a desktop.
>tfw thought my sd card reader crapped out and never checked the bios until now
wow, i'm such an idiot. no it doesn't have a pw, but never checked the disabled/enabled shit.
How good is current *BSD support for Thinkpads, in particular FreeBSD on T520? All I can find is several year old posts complaining about it.
>>52379760
Battery - you should be able to figure it out from the markings on the bottom
Memory - there is a door for the first 2 slots with markings shaped like RAM sticks. For those with 4 slots, just follow the Hardware Maintenance manual
Disk/SSD - 1 screw behind a door on the side and you just slide it out, done
As for lojack, antitheft, etc - yes the security tab. There's 3 options - enable, disable, permanently disable. If the last one, it won't appear
hey, i currently looking for a used laptop.
i did read the guide.
what about the R500? (with P8400 processor and 2gb ram) how much worse is it really?
would you take it over the x61s or x60? (my gf says she likes bigger screensize and touchpad)
Post your thinkpads
>new ghetto bed movie watching setup
X1 Carbon or T450s
It's really hard to decide.
guys what do?
do i buy a T420/520 and install a i7-2630QM from an old laptop in it
or do i buy a core 2 duo T9600 to install in my T400.
i'm not sure what to do as my T400 has the 1440x900 display and i love 16:10 and it's only £15 for the T9600, but quad core and better graphics, but a T420/520 is like £150-200.
>>52380249
I fucking hate you and love you at the same time. I'm probably going to try this setup when I change flat.
>>52380239
i've got the T400 with the same CPU, it's not bad but it's really old now, and it needs an SSD, also you may as well give it 8gb of ram. but i wouldn't go an older than core i3/5/7's unless it's super cheap or you're being given it.
>>52380358
its just below 100 bucks wich is all i can currently afford
>>52380402
that's pushing it, as i paid $120 for my T400 and that came with all the extras (webcam, higher res display, and 3G modem)
>>52380450
and im talking €, that makes it even worse i guess.
id totally take a t400 over it, but its just not available, and since the old laptop is trash we need replacement right now ~.~
>>52380249
I've got a super old Thinkpad x100e.
Is there anything I can do with it or should I just upgrade?
>>52380513
bin it as it's got a super crap AMD processor, and it's a netbook anyway so it's pointless doing anything to it.
>>52380513
Hook it up to a TV and use it to stream media.
Was browsing for stuff for my x201, found this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2nd-HDD-hard-drive-Caddy-For-LENOVO-Thinkpad-T400-T410-T500-W500-x200-x201-x220/32504357587.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2%2Csearchweb201644_3_10001_10002_10005_10006_10003_10004_62%2Csearchweb201560_6%2Csearchweb1451318400_6148
I thought I couldn't put a second 2.5 HDD, or am I missing something?
>>52380621
it's a mislabel, you need a optical drive to do that.
>>52380588
I used to use it when I couldn't be bothered to turn on the main PC just to watch movies and stream youtube videos in bed.
Alright, buying brand new. Do you think it's worth it to wait a month for the X260s to become availible, instead of just getting an X250 right now? It essentially boils down to Skylake vs Broadwell, right? I get the impression that this series is pretty conservative otherwise.
Ideally, I'd need something by next week, but I'll manage for a month or so if it's really worth it.
>>52381087
I would go for the X250, but maybe wait for the price to drop.
I'm not even 100% sure the X260 has a swappable battery, since the T460s doesn't.
That's a killer feature IMO.
>>52381135
as long as you can get at least 8 hours out of it that's not too bad a loss is it?
>>52380280
Make sure to get the strong zipties.
>>52380249
no pic, but that's a good pic anon.
is it a t400?
>>52381135
>>52381192
Battery is swappable.
Anyway, yeah, I'm a bit worried the X250 is going to be harder to get ahold of. It usually works like that in my country. You can still get an X240 for pretty cheap, yeah, but they're all weird as fuck configurations. Like an i7 processor and 16 gigs of RAM with a 1366x768 TN panel. Like, what the fuck?
>>52381241
T420
>>52381280
ah well, that's good too i guess
>>52380513
Crunchbang++.
>>52381708
thought crunch was dead.
i made this one in memory of Richard Sapper. truly, a man who knew how to do great designs.
>>52381192
If you every go on a longer trip it's great to be able to take an extra battery or two.
You can never have too much battery.
Luckily the X260 does have swappable batteries.
>>52381763
https://crunchbangplusplus.org/
My basic setup with my "new" X301
>>52381938
why when you could have gotten a X series or T4x0s
>>52382241
My friend gave it to me for $20
>>52382264
fair enough, fantastic find for $20 though.
>>52381087
>>52381246
An extra USB port vs a VGA port. Food for thought.
>>52381832
Fuuuuck, I didn't know he died before the year ended
Laptopbag or sleeve for traveling? Post pics!
I just installed Xubuntu on my new x230 and I love it..
Is there a way I can set the Thinkvantage button to do something in xubuntu? Anything? Same with the function keys being able to activate webcame. I'm not sure how to do all this as a Linux newbie.
>>52382610
was gonna ask about those thinkpad branded sleeves.
all my backpacks have spaces for laptops, so don't think i should get one.
>>52381087
>touchscreen
>>52382873
Obviously, I wouldn't get that useless feature.
>>52381938
nice
>>52382873
it's actually pretty decent in windows 10, but horrific with linux distros.
>>52380252
450s
>>52380249
I watch stuff on my 15.1" T61p in grorious 1920x1200
The wear on the touchpad can be repaired?
>>52383158
It's a sticker you can peel right off.
>>52383158
>using the touchpad
>>52383158
just buy a new palmrest, you can get them for like $20-30.
>>52383158
peel the sticker and buy a new one.
keep mine nice and shiny. also disabled in bios
>>52383224
for what reason?
>>52383178
are you kidding?
>>52383183
I want to buy this, but I'm intolerant to wear, so I want to know if this can look better
>>52383271
No. My T420 touchpad came with some nasty shit on it, I peeled the sticker off and it was perfectly fine underneath. Doesn't affect usability at all.
>>52383158
Looks more dirty than worn, they don't go white like that.
But like that other anon said, it's just a sticker that you can peel right off and replace if you so desire.
>>52383442
>they don't go white like that.
They definitely go white when worn, looks so nasty like dried jizz.
T420 are 1600x900 or 1366x768?
>>52383588
yes
Anyone want to upgrade their T420s/T430s to a FHD IPS screen? I just came across this converter board on eBay: http://r.ebay.com/wp1RMH
>>52380252
T450s fag here. Using it as a Software Engineer since a year. Installed Linux on it. Everything works flawless, battery life is great.
It is pretty thin and light weight. No reason to go for the Carbon if "thin" is your motivation to do so.
Don't buy the touch screen version though.
>>52383588
both
>T520 15.6" TFT
>i7 2.70Ghz
>8GB DDR3
>240GB SSD
~£200
Yes/No?
>>52383928
Yeah
>>52383928
That's a good deal, anon. Especially if it's a 900/1080p screen and has a 9-cell battery.
>>52383971
I thought so too. Only concern is that it's a one-off sale and there's no BIOS picture. But the seller assured me through PM that there are no security features active, so I'm sure that would make them culpable within the ebay/paypal guarantees if it were not the case.
>>52383997
I plan to replace the battery if it doesn't have that. 1920 x 1080 btw.
would i fuck up if i bought a T420i with an I3 for £100 and i plan and upgrading it to an i7.
Hello /g/entoomen.
What do you think about the Thinkpad L450 ? It seems pretty fine for the price ? Tell me if you have some alternatives. I precise I want Intel gpu only.
>>52384028
Also I have a refund period to check everything works fine, so looks pretty good.
>>52384058
L stands for low-quality
>>52384058
It's made from cheaper materials than the T- and X-series.
>>52384079
>>52384087
Yep but much more affordable and a better look !
>>52384111
>a better look
might as well get a macbook
>>52384128
Kek did you see the T450 ? The L450 looks more "retro"
>>52384028
I wouldn't be worried about the BIOS - as far as I know the same atmel chip shorting trick would work as for the other xx20 models so you've always got that as a last resort
>>52384319
why couldn't lenovo do what dell does and have removeable BIOS chips.
I need to install OSX (hackintosh) to work on some obj-c projects. Can someone recommend me a <300 USD model that's compatible with hackintosh & able to run El Capitan smoothly?
>>52384472
I've looked into it for my x220 and from what I can tell it works without any major hassles. I think you'll probably have to replace the WAN card with an Intel one for any model though
>>52384472
most thinkpads XX20 or newer usually run OSX really well, as apple started to use intel GPUs
>tfw you want a OLED Carbon x1, but you're a poor student with only a few grand and buying it would be financially irresponsible
>>52384713
why do you think loads buy older thinkpads, we're mostly all broke.
After a small accident with a buzzsaw and my T440p, I managed to royally fuck up some of the keyboard keycaps
Is there a place where I can get new keyboard caps or do I have to swap the whole keyboard?
>>52384759
or were jews
bought a t420 becuase it meets my specs perfectly at $250 (got literally errything but an i7, got the HT i5)
shit even runs fallout3 when i get bored on slow work days (medium textures, low errything else, high draw distance, but hey its smooth thats all that counts)
its been my day to day work laptop for the last 2 years, and i make 50K a year
still running a note2 as my daily driver as well
shit works why replace it?
>>52384879
keyboards are cheaper than buying the keycaps
Will x201 key caps fit on an x220 keyboard?
>tfw bidding on a mint 370C
I put in a max bid of 150€ i dont give a fuck i want it. Gonna put DSL on it and shitpost like its 1995.
I`m also waiting on a 570E and a 600E. I love the old Thinkpads. I have the T43, a T420 HD+, a 385 and a X60 and X61T.
>Sent from my X220
>>52385048
no, different keyboards, but like the post above it's cheaper to buy a new keyboard than the key caps.
>>52385112
Damn. I have an old x201 with a Japanese caps which I think are cool
>>52385230
fucking weeb
>>52384941
Jew reporting in. Same sort of deal... I make $60k a year, I own a house and a car (albeit in a small town where both are cheaper) and I see literally no reason to spend $2k on a brand new computer when a 4-year-old one gets the job done just fine.
Quitting the vidya helps a lot though. Once you're working all the time and have removed the need for demanding hardware to run poorly coded, mass-produced games, it becomes way easier to work full time on aging machines. Hell, forget the W520, I have a 2008 iMac that's still a champ with everyday tasks (the 7500 is a little past its prime though).
>>52383928
>>52384028
200 Britbux for a 1080p T520 is a pretty good deal.
>>52385258
I'm not proud of it but I'm not ashamed either
>>52385459
you could have at least bought a let's note or C series toughbook.
My T430s just arrived.
Assuming I want to keep Windows and keep the genuine W7 install that came with it incase I want to sell it, how do I make a recovery disk? USB?
>>52379216
I am watching Big Shor. And I saw something familiar. Can anyone tell me what Thinkpad is it? Was it possible to have this model in 2007 (the action of movie is in that year)?
Got my T430, installed Arch and sold my macbook pro
>>52385661
update to windows 10 while you can and microsoft will keep a key for you, so it'll activate upon installation.
>>52385670
It's an R something.
What are /tpg/'s thoughts on the Thinkpad 13?
>T420
>i5 2520M 2.70GHz
>4 Gb Ram
>320 GB
>LCD 1600x900
195 USD
¿How good is this?
>>52385930
Good enough, you won't find much lower without some luck on your side
>>52385930
I got a T430 for a bit less than that, but it doesn't seem like a bad price.
Going to Middleton bios flash my x61 (got it from work).
Anyone here use custom splash boot screens? Looking for some ideas.
I want to get comfy on my X41 and use Window Maker. Which distro? I havent't used linux in 5 years and I don't really feel like diving into Arch or Gentoo.
Will WMLive be good? Or how do I start?
>T520 15.6" 1920x1080
>i7 2.70Ghz
>8GB DDR3
>240GB SSD
>9 cell
How much do you reckon this is worth, max?
>>52386870
I'd pay $300 for it
>>52386954
you took that from the buying guide but even lower spec ones go for that much.
>>52387200
no, I took that from my 8 years of experience working with and purchasing various thinkpads including X, T, and W series variants
>>52386791
WMMaker user here
Arch is the best for it believe me
What's better than T520?
>>52387463
W520
if you're gonna go big, at least go all the way
>>52387463
Are you one of the guys who drove up that bid just now?
Is there any reason to get an x230 over an x220? Battery life? Size/weight?
>>52387879
usb 3.0
pretty decent bump in graphics performance
besides that:
worse keyboard
runs hotter
slightly worse battery life
>>52387921
Sounds shitty then
>Tfw no thinkpads with no compromises
Is t420 still a good choice for use at school for 3-4 years?
>>52388128
>that screen
>>52388152
what's wrong with the screen?
>>52388235
they're pretty shit unless you have it stationary because of the viewing angles
the t420 will have more than enough power for 3-4 years
>>52388128
For 3-4 years? It really depends how you look at it. The things are all using 5-year-old hardware right now, so by the time you're done with it, they'll be 8-9 years old, which is ancient in computer terms. Some people here are using T60p units that are roughly that age, and while they perform well with basic tasks, keep in mind probably none of them are using the original operating system, and few have Windows 7 (ie, get ready to get friendly with Linux). Other than that there are certain limitations you'll have to deal with when the computer is that old.
Speaking of Windows 7, it's getting cut off in 4 years.
>>52385930
decent
>>52386870
About tree fiddy
(really though, $350)
After looking at a T530 with
>Ivy Bridge i5
>HD+ panel and Intel IGP
>4GB ram
>backlit keyboard
for $450
I decided to go for a Dell Precision M4600 with
>Sandy Bridge i7
>FHD panel and Quadro 2000M
>8GB ram
>backlit keyboard
for $425
Did I do well? These were the best deals I could get in my area, and I really wanted to hop on the MemePad bandwagon, but the Precision looked like the superior device.
or is Dell a shit?
>>52388335
the thing is that I'm poor and I'm looking for a cheap and rugged laptop as have been T420.
Do you anons know if there is something similar, boss, powerful and robust like T420 for 3-4 years?
>>52388722
>did I do well
I think many people here are jealous of your new laptop. It's a fucking powerhouse
>>52388722
I would probably have done the same if I had to choose between the two. That dell is a workstation.
>>52388722
Save about half that purchase price for new power supplies over the next couple of years
>>52388722
>is Dell a shit
Usually these threads included a note that stated Dell and HP business class laptops were great as well. They're just not thinkpads, and some people just want a thinkpad regardless of their needs.
How risky is updating the BIOS firmware with the Lenovo tool? I don't have time to replace the mobo..
Can anyone confirm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834995680
is actually what it says it is?
There's 1 review and a few QnA's, but those can be bought up by a scammer. Just wondering if anyone here has purchased some 9 cells from Newegg.
>>52389139
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122
>>52389173
Huh. So, basically, ship the battery to Lenovo, get free replacement? I'm not opposed to that idea.
>>52389301
Q4. Do I have to return my defective battery?
A: No. However, by accepting a replacement battery you are committing to recycling your battery in an approved manner.
Check if you can get a replacement, not everyone gets one (not every chinkpad had a defective battery). Download the tool if you're on windows, or read more.
Why is the 11e more expensive than the rest of the E series?
Hey, /tpg/; I've bought this Thinkpad R51 from my friend for 20 bucks. It's got a 1.8ghz Pentium M, a 40gig HDD, a dead battery, and 1.25gb of RAM (I can upgrade it to 2.) What should I do with the thing?
>>52389301
Yeah, it's saying my battery is not eligible for replacement. I guess I got an OK battery. Guess I have to pay for a replacement, then.
>>52388335
>The things are all using 5-year-old hardware right now, so by the time you're done with it, they'll be 8-9 years old, which is ancient in computer terms
I don't think things are really that dire. The current industry focus on power efficiency and phones and tablets has allowed Sandy Bridge to remain on par with Broadwell in terms of sheer performance. Unless there's some major computing revolution inbound that I don't know about, a T420 should remain plenty sufficient for general use for years to come. The BIOS mod for Ivy Bridge processors and 1866MHz RAM will only help keep it running.
>>52388335
>>52388128
anon you can't compare 8 years ago now to 8 years ago from 4 years from now.
the release of the I-core quad/dual processor line was huge. Ever since the 2nd gen the tech has hit a slump.
>15% increase for selective single core applications from a 2500k vs 6600k
Biggest problem would be a screen. If that isn't a problem then get a T420 and save yourself hundreds of shekels in the longrun.
>>52389173
>https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122
Mine says does not recognize battery bar code.
>>52389488
The battery had been changed previously, it's probably not the genuine but I may be wrong.
>>52389356
because that's the one you want to buy
Just got a new x220t from eBay today. Screen has a few scratches and bubbles but damn this feels sexy.
I need your help guys. I got a t60 and a r40 which I want to sell. They're decent machines, yet I can't make up my mind on what windows should I get them running. Does t60 run windows 10? or should i go with xp?
What about the R40?
pic related: my babies
Please, no linux recommends.
>>52389844
run windows 7
![lenovo-thinkpad-w530-03[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Nng11gn.jpg "lenovo-thinkpad-w530-03[1].jpg")
>>52379216
Guys, I just ordered my W530 as a desktop replacement for my old LGA775 based system.
- i7 3740QM
- 16GB
- Full-HD
- Quadro K1000M *feelsbadman*
Is this still a designated shitpost machine certified by /g/ or do I have to kill the keyboard first?
>>52389844
>R40
>R
>decent machine
try harder next time and install arch
>>52389844
There are people who run w10 on their t60. Google it.
Posting from My Legendary Business Tool™ T500. I've never had a laptop with a keyboard this good
>>52389844
I run W10 on my T61p, just works
>>52390102
> Is this still a designated shitpost machine certified by /g/
Remove the stickers. I haven't used the keyboard on newer thinkpads but it doesn't look terrible. What OS are you going to put on it? I hope the carpet didn't kill the chinkpad.
>>52389410
>install Arch
>don't install X
>rice your ttys
>>52388869
How come?
>>52390203
I havent received it yet, it will come tomorrow. I have to use Windows 10 for CAD/Visual Studio and Linux for HPC-development.
The CPU is VT-d enabaled, so think I will install Arch as a base and create a VM (Qemu,KVM) for CAD and VS-stuff. The VM should be able to get direct access to the GPU and the host will run on the HD4000 meanwhile.
But I have not played around with such relative new hardware and since yesterday I used a dual-boot to fit my requirements.
Where does the S series fall in the hierarchy of ThinkPads?
Over here, they're priced even under the Edge series.
asdf
anyone running a egpu on their laptop?
looking to use a gtx 650ti with my x220. lets see some working builds
>>52390629
S is for Shit
Anyone know the best place to buy new thinkpad batteries? I have an x201, and I want something that will actually stay alive while I use it in class. Four hours or more, hopefully.
Thanks!
>>52391053
I have an exam tomorrow but I stayed up researching this. I bought an x220 and wasn't even aware of this possibility. It's a pity that the expresscard slot will bottleneck graphics cards more or less the tier of a gtx 650ti. PCIE slots on laptops need to happen. It's also a shame lenovo removed the expresscard slot on the more recent X series thinkpads...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-Mini-Dock-Series-3-Type-4337-AC-Adapter-with-Key-/221907413251?hash=item33aab66903:g:4B4AAOSwtlhWFY1n
Just got one /g/.
Did I get kekkled?
Can someone recommend a good expresscard to usb 3.0 adapter? These cheap ones seem too good to be true:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Port-USB-3-0-to-Express-Card-ExpressCard-34mm-54mm-Adapter-Hidden-For-laptop-/291374808458?hash=item43d74abd8a:g:EOAAAOSw2s1U1DDw
What do you guys know of the newer elitebooks? I've got the chance to get an 840 g1 for cheap. Is the build quality still good? I know jack about the newer elitebooks, and I'm wary of 'ultrabook' build quality
Tomorrow I am buying a t540p with i5 4300m for 400 euro good deal or not? Also anyone got some game breaking cons about the t540p?
>>52392353
It's a good laptop
swap the touchpad tho
Just got my replacement keyboard for the T420 I picked up for 100 bucks.
Old one worked, but was full of pubic hair and curry from indian coworker, tossed old ssd in this thing and its even better.
When are those IPS converter boards going on sale again, I wanna put an IPS in this bucktoothed ugly bitch.
>>52391591
You guys made me give it a try - picked up an ancient R60 for basically nothing. Rocking that T2300E and 2 gigs of RAM.
Put Mint on it expecting it to drag, and it's pretty snappy actually. But oh my god that's a comfy keyboard. I'll probably put an SSD in and use it for writing. I like it.
Is the T430 a good choice? or should I go with the T420?
Pic related.
>>52388235
It's one of the worst screens ever made
>Contrast: 162:1
>>52389410
>>52390251
I've used T42s with Arch and various light WMs for a couple years, they're a bit slow now but still useable with X.
It might be worth swapping the hdd in the R51 for something faster though.
Then again instead of getting a battery and upgrading the ram you might as well get something newer.
>>52392891
they are the same thing, pick whichever keyboard you like better
Thoughts on the yoga 900? Mainly will be for light internetting, Photoshop/light room, IT related stuff like VM's and shit
Thinking about paying way too much for a pretty well loaded FHD IPS X260 when it's released. Feel free to tell me how stupid this is and why your $10 DumpsterPad is superior.
is there anything terribly wrong with the x250 and x260? I love my x230 and the better battery life is pretty appealing to me.
>>52393362
Thank you, that's the system name once I put the SSD in.
>>52391591
Ebay
Is it possible to upgrade a T420 to a 1920x1080 screen?
Buy a chinkpad they said...
Decide to get a Chinkpad Yoga 460 since Best Buy has a good sale for it. Wait 48+ hours for UPS. A whole cluster of dead pixels.
Check Best Buy website and only one store an hour away has it in stock.
Waste my time and money going there to get this laptop autists on /g/ praise. I get home and this screen has weird flickering on the right side of the screen.
Holy fuck /g/ I'm buying a Macbook Pro or Surface Book.
>>52393528
nobody here told you to get that kind of chinkpad nerd
xx20 or die
>>52393573
Oh right I'm supposed to buy half decade old hardware that's been used/abused by some fat fuck. Requires new RAM and SSD to be somewhat usable today, and will still be significantly slower for the same price.
>>52393528
>[internal laughing intensifies]
>>52393528
>>52393599
literally nobody told you to buy a new thinkpad
go get a macbook and be happy
leave our bids alone
>>52393599
yeah because there's such a huge leap in performance between the 2nd gen mobile i5s and the 4th :^)
enjoy your shitty plastic shit goyishe faggot
>>52393599
theres some refurbished ones that come with SSDs and shit now days. I just got this T420 with a 1600x900 panel, 8gb of ram, 9 cell battery, looks brand new, for $245 total. Its hard to beat. Its a snappy quick little think pad. no complaints
>>52393643
forgot pic
>>52393643
>>52393657
god damn that's a good deal
>>52393631
Idiot doesn't know we're up to 6th now.
>>52393643
>>52393657
>>52393678
I'm retarded. Forgot to mention the 160gb SSD, which was the point in the first place.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
>tfw x220t has gimped support for tp_smapi, so i have no control over my battery and no HDAPS axis data so i cannot rotate the screen using the accelerometer like i did on the x60t
what fucking kind of "Excellent Linux Support" is that? two steps ahead and one backwards.
also, the touchscreen on Linux is unusable. theres no swipe support. so it kinda renders it moot.
think one can make some dosh librebooting and refurbing thinkpads?
almost have all the stuff to do it, and i'm gonna try it out on one of my laptops.
gluglug charges up the nose for them.
>>52393704
-- posted from my $3000 chink plastic toy
New i3 user here. I'm running Debian on an X220, how do I get the volume buttons and the brightness to work? The keyboard light works with Fn but the brightness adjustors don't.
>>52393782
wierd, the backlight FN combo should work even without a WM. i had support for it even on arch first run.
>>52393362
the x250 and x260 are good, the problem is the x230 is still very close in terms of processing power, size, wight, options, etc. and you can get one for pretty damn cheap now. the main advantage the newer ones have is battery life, which is significantly better. so if you're ok with spending a good amount of money on more battery life then without resorting to big extended or even slice batteries then fine. my x230 gets ~7 hours of light use on a 6-cell, a 9-cell would be better but it ads quite a bit of size and weight. the new x-series can achieve close to double the battery life while taking up less space than the old 6-cell. the problem is they have achieved power savings by basically switching to ulv for everything but the p-series. previously those CPUs were only in s and i variants. still, not many people need a lot of processing power in a laptop. those chips are still more than enough for everyday tasks, HD video, even light gaming.
>>52393821
It's weird that the keyboard light works but not the screen brightness, both use fn. Idk what to do. Did your volume buttons work?
>>52392504
Chinks probably won't churn them out until after chinese new year, and this stuff is technically a hobby they need to balance with their wageslavery
>>52393924
no, because on first run theres still no ALSA or OSS.
so the mute button led were on until i installed ALSA.
How i turn that behavior of middle click to open a new tab on firefox with whatever URL i had on the clipboard on the x220 on arch, its driving me crazy
Thinking about changing the mobo on my t500 for one with the ati gpu. It should just be a simple swap, right?
>>52394160
it's in the about:config. search middlemouse, you should be able to figure out which key
>>52394096
I got it. Made key binds in the config for xbacklight and pactl. Feels good.
>>52394173
You'll also have to replace the cooler, I think.
>>52394160
thats a firefox feature anon.
go to about:config and set middlemouse.contentLoadURL to false
>>52394208
>>52394191
thank you guise. its funny because i didnt experienced this on my T60.
>>52393709
>using a tablet with linux
you fucked up
use windows, as the touch support is pretty great.
>>52394197
Found it, thanks
https://youtu.be/8lqAa_eD84A?t=927
2017 Year of Ye Olde RetroPad?
>>52390629
I should probably clarify: the specs state magnesium body, yet how are they priced under the plastic Edge models?
Hey guys, first time caller, long time listener.
1) I own an X220-4291HB4. Is there an upgrade to the screen, i.e. IPS and/or better resolution? I've been googling and found a bunch of mixed information. Higher resolution might be bottlenecked by the display driver, I dunno.
2) I looked up the part numbers in the manual and I'm confused as to the exact part number. Under 4291 it doesn't say "22x" yet it lists 22x under 4287 and 4289.
Epilogue) My screen got damaged somehow during a flight yesterday. The panel has about a 3" deadspot top to bottom that will flicker when I tap it with my finger. Aka it's dead.
pic related
>>52393905
is the single channel from the x260/250 a big perfomance issue conpared to the older generations? Thinking of getting one of these.
>>52390135
>>52390188
Huh, Windows 10 on my X300 feels completely fucking broken. The trackpoint doesn't work properly. I've actually considered going back to Win 7 or switching it to Linux.
>>52392891
>>52392947
The difference between Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge is negligible for CPU-intensive tasks (ie, a 5%-8% improvement clock for clock), but the integrated graphics in Ivy were MUCH better (25%-50% improvement). The T430 is also more energy efficient, but they cost considerably more than the T420.
>>52394173
Coming from someone who owns a T400 with the ATI GPU, don't do it. It may have been decent when it was new, or even a few years old, but it's beyond shit now. The drivers are ancient and won't do dick all with games, and the video decoding capabilities are not appreciably better (the integrated graphics do 720p just fine and neither can really handle 1080p all that well). I've actually put the ATI card to sleep after switching to Linux... disabled that shit in the BIOS.
>>52395023
it might be easier to just sell it and pick up an x220T
>>52395122
Well, maybe misstated my question. I don't want to replace the laptop, I need to replace the screen. But I was wondering if I could upgrade in the process.
>>52394273
>spouting the dank meme of tablets and linux
fuck you, my old x60t worked awesome on linux.
Windows 7 is terrible at either touch and pen, and Windows 10 for some fucking reason is eating my battery like a junkie going through a doritos bag.
>>52380513
loonix + netflix + vga2hdmi = streaming device
That's what i would do with it.
t400 for $80 a good price?
>>52393736
nope. there's not enough gnu-tards to go around also some of them might do it themselves also some of them might rather support fsf.
>>52395332
yup
is it possible to upgrade an x200 to an 1920x1080 panel?
So I'm going to get a W520 locally with:
>i7 2760 QM quad core 2.4Ghz CPU
>2GB nvidia GPU
>16GB RAM
>500GB hybrid SSD
>1366x768 screen that I can replace in future
>dock + charger
All for around $480 USD that I can get almost instantly without getting assraped by customs and shipping. It shall take over desktop replacement duty from my X220 until I save up for a proppa workstation
>>52395511
no, they use 16:10 displays
and why would you want something that high res on such a small screen?
you wouldn't be able to read anything at that res which would mean that you need scaling
and anything other that 4:1 scaling is garbage
Looking at getting a used thinkpad off CL for school, first time Linux machine and possibly work once I graduate this year. Saw an x230 with an i7 for 350 and an e530 i5 for 170. Which should I go for? I think the first distro I'll use is Mint
>>52397167
E series is crap, definitely avoid. You should be able to do better than that X230 if you're in America though. Check ebay.
>>52397175
I'm seeing some i3 models for around 100 on ebay. Would that be sufficient for running Linux mainly for Web browsing, office and possibly programming?
>>52397259
yes, that'd be plenty
>>52397259
Eh. Probably. Just keep in mind that the X series has soldered CPUs, so you won't be able to upgrade it short of replacing the entire motherboard.
>>52397330
T420 doesn't have that problem?
This is probably a dumb question, but can I replace the processor, ram, and hard drive of something like a t60 with the parts from a desktop?
>>52397359
T420 has a socketed CPU, so no. With BIOS mods you can even upgrade to an Ivy Bridge processor.
>>52397366
No. The only part that might be reusable between a desktop and laptop is an SSD.
I own a thinkpad x201t. I like it but it's showing its age. For reasons I can't possibly comprehend stylus technology has gotten worse, not better, since this laptop was manufactured 6~ years ago. Instead of wasting money on a new laptop that I'm ultimately not going to be happy with, my question /g/entooman, is would it be possible to replace the processor (i5) in my x201t with a more modern processor? Preferably an i7 skylake. I don't know this for a fact but I'm assuming the processor is soldered to the MOBO. I have options for BGA rework so I'd like to address compatibility only. Trying to use Google to find my answer has only led me down a rabbit hole of things I don't understand. All advice appreciated. Thanks in advance!
>>52398296
Unless you know how to desolder everything without damaging anything, you're straight outta luck
The latest tablet model is the X230, and the chinkpad "successor" to the X-series tablets is the yoga so yeah you're pretty fucked
Then again why do you need so much power for what's effectively a drawfagging device? I use mine almost exclusively for watching streams and drawfaggotry
Is there an option for msata ssd for X220t? Thinkwiki is mentioning it for the X220 but not for the X220t.
Hey /g/
i am looking into a refurb'd Lenovo and have found these two. any advice on which to go for?
I converted my currency to dollars for you guys.
Lenovo T410 i5, 4gb mem, 320gb, W7 - $200.00
or
Lenovo T420 i5, 4gb mem, 320gb, W7 - $280.00
The T420 is the "newer" model, but is it worth the $80 premium?
>>52398331
I'm an engineering student. The stylus capability is needed when drawing circuits or doing math. More processing power is needed when if I'm using Vivado and trying to compile VHDL. It can currently do both of these things but compiling VHDL is a 20 minute process. If I have to make 3 simple changes I'm looking at an hour of down time.
Soldering isn't too much of an issue for me.
>>52398570
yes, the CPU is a generation newer. will run cooler, use less power and the integrated GPU is much better which will help with video decoding
>>52398610
>T420
Thanks for the feedback.
How can I bind the Thinkvantage button to some sort of function within Linux?
S440 worth it?
T440s
Intel i5-4300U
8gb RAM
180gb SSD
1920x1080 IPS touch
Worth $500?
Whats the status on the thinkpad classic?
I bought a 2nd hand T420 and it's idling at 70°C. How common is this? I guess I'll have to open it up and clean it.
>>52399893
Pretty sure you can apply new thermal paste.
>>52379216
Thinkpad is shit. HP Elitebook masterrace reporting in.>>52379216
>>52396673
The RAM and processor are good but nobody should ever pay that kind of money for 1366x768. Never. I don't even understand why the slack-jawed faggot who ordered it years ago even configured it with an upgraded processor and RAM but didn't bother touching the goddamn screen.
You can do better, even with customs. I got pic related for $340 USD, even before chiseling the seller on some shit (scratches and a beat-up main cable). By the time I was done playing the partial refund game, I had it for $290 USD before Canuck customs. Core i7 2720M, 16 gigs of RAM, 1080p. No way that local deal is worth $480. Negotiate him down at least $100.
>>52397175
I have an E550 at work. It's OK, not much worse than the xx40 in my opinion.
>>52399669
Some dude from Lenovo was saying 2017.
>>52391828
Ordering the PE4L 2.1b and using a GTX560ti
Not sure what PSU to get yet
What's /g/'s experience with WD's laptop hard drives? I know a few years ago people here were on the anti-Seagate brigade, Hitachi was "Deathstar" which left WD as the only acceptable option. But literally every single WD drive in every single Thinkpad at my family's business (about 15 overall) has developed bad sectors after only a few years of use. The mix of Seagate/Hitachi drives (only 6, but still) is fine. The computers are a mix of T420s and T430s. It's kind of embarassing for me because I was the one who proposed replacing the OEM Seagate drives in the first place in order to get "WD reliability".
Is there something in Thinkpads that causes them to be uncooperative with WD drives? Does the Active Protection System fuck with them or something?
I was looking on YouTube and saw that the x220 could also be used as a tablet(rotates and can be folded like a notebook)
How's the battery life and input lag fit the stylus in comparison to the surface pro 4?
I might return it if this beats it in those categories AND price.
>>52400157
That only the x220t
>>52400294
Ah, knew their was a difference.
Where can I purchase that? On Amazon there are extremely bloated prices.
Is that battery life better than 5 hours? Also how is the pen? I don't know if you've tried the surface pro 4 but I have one and I'm considering returning it for something cheaper that does the job just as well.
Buttons below trackpad when?
Do I have to leave the thinkpad-verse and get a latitude?
>>52400354
>their
>extremely bloated prices
>surface pro 4
you ok senpai?
>>52400354
with a new battery you should get 5 hours yeah
the pen is nice. loses a bit of accuracy around the very edges like most but otherwise it's nice
>>52400354
Whatever you do, don't get a Surface Pro. Non-upgradeable, very flaky hardware, and impossible to repair. I speak from personal experience.
>2014
>Brother is still using a T60, wants new computer for university, needs something to write notes on
>"Get an X220t"
>No, goes out and buys a Surface Pro 3 for $1500
>1 year later
>Power jack behaving strangely
>Random lock-ups
>Keyboard only works intermittently, testing with other Surface units at the Microsoft store confirms that it's the keyboard port that's malfunctioning
>Brother stupidly drops the Surface just before we send it out for a warranty repair, screen cracked
>Find out it is impossible to replace the screen and the only option is to pay $500 to get a new unit
>Even with "warranty repairs", Microsoft just sends you a new unit
>The thing is practically hermetically sealed and impossible to open up, nothing can be changed out, nothing can be upgraded, if anything goes wrong then the whole tablet is worthless
>Sell the broken Surface for $400 and buy an X230 tablet, basically what I said to do in the first place
>>52400522
>>52400354
I misread your post, as it turns out it is already too late to save you.
Return it.
